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(Washington Post)   Virginia restaurant that encouraged open carry of firearms loses 7 guns in burglary   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 41
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2013-12-03 03:26:27 AM
So much for your "This Business Protected By SMITH & WESSON" sticker, hoss.
 
2013-12-03 07:29:07 AM
So? It was a break in after everyone was gone and he admittedly doesn't store guns there, this was just a freak occurrence.

Businesses get robbed all the time, big deal.
 
2013-12-03 07:35:45 AM

Tat'dGreaser: So? It was a break in after everyone was gone and he admittedly doesn't store guns there, this was just a freak occurrence.

Businesses get robbed all the time, big deal.




So, someone else's fault that they weren't stored securely?
Party of Personal Responsibility.
 
2013-12-03 07:38:04 AM

Tat'dGreaser: So? It was a break in after everyone was gone and he admittedly doesn't store guns there, this was just a freak occurrence.

Businesses get robbed all the time, big deal.


Sounds like insurance fraud to me.
 
2013-12-03 07:40:55 AM

taoistlumberjak: Tat'dGreaser: So? It was a break in after everyone was gone and he admittedly doesn't store guns there, this was just a freak occurrence.

Businesses get robbed all the time, big deal.

So, someone else's fault that they weren't stored securely?
Party of Personal Responsibility.


Hey, just because he let seven guns fall into the hands of criminals , you needn't be so harsh - you should be thanking the guy for standing up to the liberals, and defending your 2nd amendment rights.
 
2013-12-03 07:41:37 AM

dv-ous: Sounds like insurance fraud to me.


Eh, I don't know. You normally wouldn't insure a bunch of hunting rifles and shotguns that are only temporarily stored. Now if the place magically caught fire too, sure.
 
2013-12-03 07:44:49 AM
"Padlocked" is not the best way to secure firearms.
 
2013-12-03 07:48:17 AM
Sounds like someone knew the guns were there that night.
 
2013-12-03 07:49:57 AM

UsikFark: Sounds like someone knew the guns were there that night.


Very well someone could have been casing the place the exact moment he was coming back from hunting and carrying them inside. Then again, you're robbing a place and a closet has a padlock on it that means maybe something in there is worth stealing. Even if it's electronics, it's something you can sell.
 
2013-12-03 07:51:13 AM
Rifles and shotguns, stolen from a padlocked closet.  Chances they'll be used to commit a crime, slim and
none.

image15.spreadshirt.com
 
2013-12-03 07:53:08 AM

UsikFark: Sounds like someone knew the guns were there that night.


Often the case. Guns are a real thief magnet - they are the most valuable thing a street criminal can steal, because they turn the usual economics of stolen goods on it's head. Jewels, gold, electronics, watches, cameras - all worth pennies on the dollar, hot on the street. Guns? Dollars on the penny.
If you want to get robbed and burgled, make it generally known that you have guns.
 
2013-12-03 07:53:23 AM
For years I've teased my 2nd Amendment friends that a NRA sticker basically screams "Free Guns!" to burglars or thieves.
 
2013-12-03 07:53:37 AM
Someone he knows did it.
 
2013-12-03 07:54:07 AM

Zeb Hesselgresser: Rifles and shotguns, stolen from a padlocked closet.  Chances they'll be used to commit a crime, slim and
none.

[image15.spreadshirt.com image 178x178]


... Wait, where is that tshirt image from?

'Cause the drawing is from Hyperbole and a Half, but I don't think it was used in that context...
 
2013-12-03 07:55:38 AM

capn' fun: For years I've teased my 2nd Amendment friends that a NRA sticker basically screams "Free Guns!" to burglars or thieves.


It's a pretty well known fact.
 
2013-12-03 07:57:35 AM
Inside job. Somebody the owner knew stole those guns.
 
2013-12-03 07:58:03 AM
LOL.  I've eaten there several times.  Its a quaint place.

I am going to guess that this is simply a freak coincidence
 
2013-12-03 08:01:43 AM
Better article here

FTFA: "Surveillance video helped identify former employee Schuyler Charles Bertolette, 27, of Leesburg, as one of the suspect. Bertolette is wanted on charges of burglary and grand larceny."

Case closed.  Single isolated event.
 
2013-12-03 08:03:05 AM

Endive Wombat: Better article here

FTFA: "Surveillance video helped identify former employee Schuyler Charles Bertolette, 27, of Leesburg, as one of the suspect. Bertolette is wanted on charges of burglary and grand larceny."

Case closed.  Single isolated event.


Overzealous staffer!! :D
 
2013-12-03 08:04:11 AM
o2.aolcdn.com

He's not a bad guy, he's just sleepy
 
2013-12-03 08:04:35 AM
If someone really wants to take your stuff; even a bank value might not be enough.
 
2013-12-03 08:05:30 AM

iheartscotch: If someone really wants to take your stuff; even a bank value might not be enough.


Damned auto correct value = vault
 
2013-12-03 08:15:31 AM
Every open carry thread:

A man legally carrying a gun gets robbed at gunpoint


which is bugfark hilarious until you see the 'gun spokesman' they bring on then it's bugfark, batshiat, pants-on-head OMG WTF BBQ ROFLMAO

hahahahaha
 
2013-12-03 08:21:21 AM

jso2897: taoistlumberjak: Tat'dGreaser: So? It was a break in after everyone was gone and he admittedly doesn't store guns there, this was just a freak occurrence.

Businesses get robbed all the time, big deal.

So, someone else's fault that they weren't stored securely?
Party of Personal Responsibility.

Hey, just because he let seven guns fall into the hands of criminals , you needn't be so harsh - you should be thanking the guy for standing up to the liberals, and defending your 2nd amendment rights.


The guy is a liberal.  Certainly on guns.  Liberals aren't opposed to private ownership of guns or any other right spelled out in the Bill of Rights.  The term you are looking for is leftist or left-wing extremist.  It fits way better than liberal, and quite a bit better than Democrat, which would be wrong over half the time.
 
2013-12-03 08:22:56 AM
Felgraf:    ... Wait, where is that tshirt image from?

'Cause the drawing is from Hyperbole and a Half, but I don't think it was used in that context...


http://www.spreadshirt.com/user/mford
 
2013-12-03 08:25:01 AM

Tat'dGreaser: [o2.aolcdn.com image 236x295]

He's not a bad guy, he's just sleepy


Keanu Reeves? damn, and he's got a new movie coming out, you'd think he wouldn't have to stoop to crime....
 
2013-12-03 08:34:58 AM

taoistlumberjak: So, someone else's fault that they weren't stored securely?
Party of Personal Responsibility.


Well, the criminals had to actually break in to get the things, so they were probably secured adequately.

If they'd just had employees wander off with other people's guns, sure, I'd blame him, but there's no such thing as making something impossible to burgle.

willfullyobscure: which is bugfark hilarious until you see the 'gun spokesman' they bring on then it's bugfark, batshiat, pants-on-head OMG WTF BBQ ROFLMAO


Yeah, open carry is a bit silly, it's sort of like idiots that wear bling... sure, I guess it's nice that you have expensive stuff, but maybe walking around in crime-heavy areas showing off your expensive stuff isn't the best life plan?
 
2013-12-03 09:00:20 AM

iheartscotch: iheartscotch: If someone really wants to take your stuff; even a bank value might not be enough.

Damned auto correct value = vault


A good percentage of crimes are crimes of opportunity.  If you leave valuable stuff sitting around not adequately protected, someone who would not otherwise bother may take note and jump at the chance.

Good thing it was just guns and not anything dangerous though.
 
2013-12-03 09:02:00 AM
bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com
Yet another doughy, pasty badass.
 
2013-12-03 09:02:09 AM

Subtle_Canary: Inside job. Somebody the owner knew stole those guns.


yep, He only parked them there for the night.
 
2013-12-03 09:25:13 AM

taoistlumberjak: Tat'dGreaser: So? It was a break in after everyone was gone and he admittedly doesn't store guns there, this was just a freak occurrence.

Businesses get robbed all the time, big deal.

So, someone else's fault that they weren't stored securely?
Party of Personal Responsibility.


About 12:45 a.m., they said, two people forced their way inside, broke into a padlocked closet and stole seven long guns described as rifles and shotguns. Sounds like being responsible to me.
 
2013-12-03 09:32:40 AM
A padlocked closet is hardly a 500# safe, but they weren't exactly hanging from hooks on the wall, either.  The coincidence of the place getting robbed that night kind of belies belief, but it's not exactly impossible.

The cops may investigate this very closely, but it doesn't strike me as a huge deal, either.
 
2013-12-03 09:52:58 AM

Zeb Hesselgresser: Felgraf:    ... Wait, where is that tshirt image from?

'Cause the drawing is from Hyperbole and a Half, but I don't think it was used in that context...

http://www.spreadshirt.com/user/mford


Ah, okay, so he's stealing other people's art and selling them on Tshirts.

What a dick.
 
2013-12-03 10:01:05 AM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: [bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com image 468x760]
Yet another doughy, pasty badass.


When he finishes losing his hair sometime next year, he'll be exactly the person I pictured while reading the article.
 
2013-12-03 10:23:37 AM
Are we taking bets that the thieves will get arrested when they try to use the guns to get a meal discount?
 
2013-12-03 11:32:42 AM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: [bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com image 468x760]
Yet another doughy, pasty badass.


de-motivational-posters.com
?
 
TWX
2013-12-03 11:38:39 AM

Endive Wombat: Better article here

FTFA: "Surveillance video helped identify former employee Schuyler Charles Bertolette, 27, of Leesburg, as one of the suspect. Bertolette is wanted on charges of burglary and grand larceny."

Case closed.  Single isolated event.


Only isolated in the case of the perpetrator. This kind of thing is very common, if someone that wants to steal guns knows that you have some, if an easy opportunity presents itself to take your guns when they're out of your direct control then they'll probably be stolen.

I know someone that went hunting and target shooting and got in late on a Sunday night, didn't feel like cleaning the guns that night so left them out of the safe to clean them Monday afternoon, and got broken into and robbed while at work Monday morning. There was no attempt made at the safe at all, even though there were more locked up guns than guns left out.

I'm a little surprised that the owner of the restaurant didn't have a gun safe in his office at the restaurant. Sure, he'd spend some money to put one in, but he'd be able to store other valuables besides guns, if he needed to.
 
2013-12-03 12:24:46 PM
I heard this was left on the premises.

movieboozer.com
 
2013-12-03 01:31:06 PM
Nobody supplies more free guns to criminals than "2nd amendment advocates".
 
2013-12-03 01:53:08 PM
Yet another in a long series of isolated incidents.
 
2013-12-03 03:31:14 PM

lilbjorn: Nobody supplies more free guns to criminals than "2nd amendment advocates".


THIS

Persnickety: Yet another in a long series of isolated incidents.


Yep


But I will say that this one I cannot get all outraged on. IMHO they were improperly stored and blatantly advertised but the owner at least didnt have them hanging on the wall. Couple that with the fact that it was an inside job, this one is kinda meh.
 
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