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(Vanity Fair)   Remember that time when you were in South America and got kicked out of that bar by that bouncer and he told you that you should straighten up your life and find God and you said "yeah well who elected you Pope?" Good times. Good times   (vanityfair.com) divider line 70
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TWX
2013-12-03 12:17:43 AM
So, the College of Cardinals then?
 
2013-12-03 12:18:16 AM
He's cruising for an assassination by some extremist Catholic-types.
 
2013-12-03 12:23:23 AM
I seriously love this pope, and I'm about as atheistic, a-religious, and a-spiritual as they come.

Hell I probably want to take this guy's ethos into the world more than many American Catholics want to.
 
2013-12-03 12:26:20 AM
"Ay, I'ma the freakin pope!" - The pope on 'family guy'.
 
2013-12-03 12:27:04 AM

tarheel07: He's cruising for an assassination by some extremist Catholic-types.

  Tea-Party types.


FTFY
 
2013-12-03 12:29:43 AM
weknowmemes.com
 
2013-12-03 12:31:39 AM
Is this jokes in my Fark?
 
2013-12-03 12:33:14 AM
Heh. I can actually imagine this Pope riding around all day on a Vespa saying "ciao". :D
 
2013-12-03 12:36:21 AM
gotta love jesuits.
 
2013-12-03 12:40:13 AM
He is just like me! Like how George Bush Jr was like me!
 
2013-12-03 12:43:35 AM

EnderWiggnz: gotta love jesuits.


I knew a Jesuit luthier in Chile. He and a nun fell in love, broke their vows, and got married. Cool guy. He lived down the street from me in Valdivia, and I almost bought a violin from him.
 
2013-12-03 12:44:04 AM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: I seriously love this pope, and I'm about as atheistic, a-religious, and a-spiritual as they come.

Hell I probably want to take this guy's ethos into the world more than many American Catholics want to.


I've given up resisting. I feel no shame about calling myself Catholic again for the first time in years. I know it will never meet my ideal conception of what is moral, but I'm thrilled with Francis and hope to see more good things in the future.
 
2013-12-03 12:44:21 AM

Kirk's_Toupee: He is just like me! Like how George Bush Jr was like me!


He's someone you could have communion wine with.
 
2013-12-03 12:45:21 AM
Nice headline, subby :)
 
2013-12-03 12:46:03 AM
Getting your ass kicked by a future pope would be a great story.
 
2013-12-03 12:48:52 AM
I JUST LOVE THIS POPETY POPE!!!!!
 
2013-12-03 12:52:14 AM

tarheel07: He's cruising for an assassination by some extremist Catholic-types.


Sadly, yes. I hope he stays pope for 40+ years. He's awesome. I've met genuine "Christians" and he fits the bill. Fake Christians have an agenda. This Pope's agenda seems to be about helping people.
 
2013-12-03 12:54:22 AM

Gig103: Nice headline, subby :)


Thanks.  I actually copies/pasted the same headline/link to Facebook and got exactly 3 likes and no comments.
 
2013-12-03 12:55:46 AM

Directorscut: tarheel07: He's cruising for an assassination by some extremist Catholic-types.  Tea-Party types.


FTFY


You misspelled left wing radicals, just like all the major assassins of last century.
 
2013-12-03 12:56:08 AM
Jesus..party of thirteen....er....um...party of twelve....
 
2013-12-03 12:56:38 AM
So strange seeing a Pope who actually seems to take to heart the teachings of Jesus. I have no idea how the hell he got elected.
 
2013-12-03 12:57:15 AM

Smeggy Smurf: Directorscut: tarheel07: He's cruising for an assassination by some extremist Catholic-types.  Tea-Party types.


FTFY

You misspelled left wing radicals, just like all the major assassins of last century.


I predict the rest of the thread will be completely calm and civil.
 
2013-12-03 01:00:34 AM
Of course it will be civil, it's Fark. Calm and civil....yess....breathe deeply of the gas...
 
2013-12-03 01:05:22 AM

Smeggy Smurf: Directorscut: tarheel07: He's cruising for an assassination by some extremist Catholic-types.  Tea-Party types.


FTFY

You misspelled left wing radicals, just like all the major assassins of last century.


obeythemuse.com
 
2013-12-03 01:06:49 AM

Smeggy Smurf: Directorscut: tarheel07: He's cruising for an assassination by some extremist Catholic-types.  Tea-Party types.


FTFY

You misspelled left wing radicals, just like all the major assassins of last century.


Yep, 20th-Century major assassins were terrible spellers.
 
2013-12-03 01:09:10 AM

tarheel07: He's cruising for an assassination by some extremist Catholic-types.


Some are calling for a Pope on a Rope?
 
2013-12-03 01:09:18 AM
So the Pope walks into a bar...
 
2013-12-03 01:10:59 AM

Omahawg: [weknowmemes.com image 642x805]


I believe that Pope Francis more closely resembles Jonathan Pryce.
 
2013-12-03 01:13:11 AM

Bermuda59: So the Pope walks into a bar...


And the bartender says, "What is this, some kind of joke?"
 
2013-12-03 01:15:26 AM
So is this the bouncer defending himself yet?
 
2013-12-03 01:19:04 AM

grokca: tarheel07: He's cruising for an assassination by some extremist Catholic-types.

Some are calling for a Pope on a Rope?


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-12-03 01:19:44 AM
Anyone think he's partially the product of an intensive PR campaign to win back lapsed Catholics and/or attract new, younger devotees? Some of thus stuff sounds too good to be true.
 
2013-12-03 01:20:05 AM
I bet when he boxes he uses the ol' Pope-a-Dope strategy.
 
2013-12-03 01:20:24 AM

fusillade762: Getting your ass kicked by a future pope would be a great story.


Do you think the pope dreamed about being pope when he was a kid? You know, just like the rest of us pretended to be a famous sports star? And wouldn't it have been weird to go to high school with the pope? You know somebody did, they're sitting there, watching TV and the pope comes and and they're all "I Know that Guy! He was a jerk! And now he's POPE? ...I got a swirly from the pope!"
 
2013-12-03 01:23:25 AM
I'm not the only one who read the vanity fair article and wondered what the fark was going on, was I? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here!
 
2013-12-03 01:26:23 AM

Bermuda59: So the Pope walks into a bar...


Do you have a program I can tune into?
 
2013-12-03 01:26:58 AM

King Something: Bermuda59: So the Pope walks into a bar...

And the bartender says, "What is this, some kind of joke?"


I'm a frayed knot! No wait...
 
2013-12-03 01:27:12 AM
Meh.

Still likes to wear dresses and have men kiss his ring. Point deductions.
 
2013-12-03 01:32:38 AM

GungFu: Meh.

Still likes to wear dresses and have men kiss his ring. Point deductions.


NTTAWWT
 
2013-12-03 01:54:21 AM
Is this Pope willing to vigorously investigate allegations of molestation and turn over ALL cases for civil/criminal prosecution? Willing to go on record and say that the Church is not about this and it is done defending and hiding accused priests?


No?


Then, "good Pope" or "popular Pope" or not, he is a terrible human being. I cannot wait for someone to actually go and "clean house" there. I'm not religious but would strongly support such a Pope.
 
2013-12-03 02:12:04 AM

niet3sche: Is this Pope willing to vigorously investigate allegations of molestation and turn over ALL cases for civil/criminal prosecution? Willing to go on record and say that the Church is not about this and it is done defending and hiding accused priests?


No?


Then, "good Pope" or "popular Pope" or not, he is a terrible human being. I cannot wait for someone to actually go and "clean house" there. I'm not religious but would strongly support such a Pope.


Obamacare might not be universal health care but its a step in the right direction. Same goes for this pope. Glass half empty? By your name I assume you're a bit nihilistic. Lighten up.
 
2013-12-03 02:16:39 AM

niet3sche: I cannot wait for someone to actually go and "clean house" there. I'm not religious but would strongly support such a Pope.


I'd say the work he's doing now to the administration of the Vatican and the cleaning up of rogue bishop nests is probably a precursor to 'cleaning house' totally, including vigorously investigating allegations of abuse...but you can only fit so much into a year, well, since March.

/not religious but I'd love to meet this Pope!
 
2013-12-03 02:25:06 AM
I'm not a fan of the Catholic Church.  They have a long and well-documented history of being on the wrong side of history and behaving in the worst ways for the worst of reasons.

And I'm not a bit snowed by this new effort by the CC to reform its image.  If they want to make a real impact on the world, they're sitting on billions of dollars in property and wealth that they could use to feed the poor and help the sick and the weak.

However.

This Pope has brought down a German Bishop known as the Bishop of Bling.  He's also made a point of trying to set a good example for those in the hierarchy and perhaps remind them of their overriding purpose in the world.

He apparently also sneaks out of his apartment at night and wanders Rome, handing out alms to the poor.  It's said that he had a history of doing this even back in South America.

For all my distaste for the CC's past sins and its current problems and fixation with turning a blind eye to corrupt priests....And as much as I truly don't want to...I find myself approving of this Pope.

There, I said it.  It's a good start.  But, I do truly hope this isn't a PR effort.  I really do hope that this guy pushes the CC to forsake its past mistakes, own up to its sins and work toward redemption.

And in case you're wondering, it was his correct labeling of unbridled capitalism as the worship of Mammon that convinced me to give him a chance.
 
2013-12-03 02:32:56 AM

ktybear: niet3sche: I cannot wait for someone to actually go and "clean house" there. I'm not religious but would strongly support such a Pope.

I'd say the work he's doing now to the administration of the Vatican and the cleaning up of rogue bishop nests is probably a precursor to 'cleaning house' totally, including vigorously investigating allegations of abuse...but you can only fit so much into a year, well, since March.

/not religious but I'd love to meet this Pope!



I think of this Pope as trying to persuade a group of ents to help some hobbits. From the outside it looks like he's not doing much and that fairly slowly, but from their perspective it's chaotic reform at a breakneck pace.
 
2013-12-03 02:59:40 AM

fasahd: niet3sche: Is this Pope willing to vigorously investigate allegations of molestation and turn over ALL cases for civil/criminal prosecution? Willing to go on record and say that the Church is not about this and it is done defending and hiding accused priests?


No?


Then, "good Pope" or "popular Pope" or not, he is a terrible human being. I cannot wait for someone to actually go and "clean house" there. I'm not religious but would strongly support such a Pope.

Obamacare might not be universal health care but its a step in the right direction. Same goes for this pope. Glass half empty? By your name I assume you're a bit nihilistic. Lighten up

[, Francis! --N].

Not a nihilist, though "The Big Lebowski" told me those guys have a good time. And ferrets. And motorcycles!

As for me seeing the glass as half-empty, this is likely. Doing the right thing, and doing it quickly and correctly, is usually not a happy endeavor when saddled with centuries of wrong-doing. You make a good point that this it's slow to turn a ship, but it is remarkable to me that the ship cannot be turned on a dime or whim for this, as for other projects.

ktybear: niet3sche: I cannot wait for someone to actually go and "clean house" there. I'm not religious but would strongly support such a Pope.

I'd say the work he's doing now to the administration of the Vatican and the cleaning up of rogue bishop nests is probably a precursor to 'cleaning house' totally, including vigorously investigating allegations of abuse...but you can only fit so much into a year, well, since March.

/not religious but I'd love to meet this Pope!


Let's hope that you're right in seeing this as a precursor to "cleaning hose." There are folks I'd rather meet than the Pope. I'm not opposed, but there's nothing I have to say to him that he doesn't already know, and has been advised by people more steeped in their culture than I. I'd instead push for the airfare, etc. to go to feed and house a couple people for a few days. Actually, if a "meet the Pope" contest ever comes up, maybe I'll enter with the sole intention of doing just this, and see if the Church or other organizations would cost-match. I'd do it through a proxy, though, as I'm not into helping to be known as "that helping guy."

Infernalist: I'm not a fan of the Catholic Church.  They have a long and well-documented history of being on the wrong side of history and behaving in the worst ways for the worst of reasons.

And I'm not a bit snowed by this new effort by the CC to reform its image.  If they want to make a real impact on the world, they're sitting on billions of dollars in property and wealth that they could use to feed the poor and help the sick and the weak.

However.

This Pope has brought down a German Bishop known as the Bishop of Bling.  He's also made a point of trying to set a good example for those in the hierarchy and perhaps remind them of their overriding purpose in the world.

He apparently also sneaks out of his apartment at night and wanders Rome, handing out alms to the poor.  It's said that he had a history of doing this even back in South America.

For all my distaste for the CC's past sins and its current problems and fixation with turning a blind eye to corrupt priests....And as much as I truly don't want to...I find myself approving of this Pope.

There, I said it.  It's a good start.  But, I do truly hope this isn't a PR effort.  I really do hope that this guy pushes the CC to forsake its past mistakes, own up to its sins and work toward redemption.

And in case you're wondering, it was his correct labeling of unbridled capitalism as the worship of Mammon that convinced me to give him a chance.


Indeed. I really hope that we're seeing the start of him turning the ship on this, although there's a lot (centuries!) of inertia working against him in these efforts. I was pleased to see the "Bishop of Bling" story break, so that's a good sign, but it seems a strange place (to me) to start making inroads. Hopefully it's a case where he and his advisors know the political terrain there better than I and picking low-hanging fruit first.

Although these three posts bring up something interesting that I'd not really considered: where does the man end and the Pope begin? I had always believed them to be one and the same, but if the man is able to wander the streets giving alms to the poor and helping in small ways, why not the Pope? Not everything has to be large and sweeping (e.g. sending a "don't diddle kids" email, while not "round 'em all up and turn them over to authorities," is better than nothing), and constant small touches (pun not intended) seem to be more effective over time, albeit less splashy, than large directional changes.

Aaaaaand, I might have answered my own initial question. To come full-circle, I really hope there are changes implemented, and more coming, with respect to how the Church deals with molestation and abuse. It's frustrating being on the outside and unable to see anything beyond a seeming continuation of a permissive environment for child-abusers. I would think the Church would believe themselves better than this, and I'd like to see this belief affirmed through action.
 
2013-12-03 03:13:07 AM

niet3sche: I was pleased to see the "Bishop of Bling" story break, so that's a good sign, but it seems a strange place (to me) to start making inroads.


I think it's the perfect place to start. He has to get rid of the old guard in the Vatican, since they've been guarding the very rich and powerful within the ranks of Cardinals and Bishops who really are the monsters and protectors of monsters.

Clean up the inside, then work on the outside.
 
2013-12-03 03:24:34 AM
"You want to go home and rethink your life."
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2013-12-03 04:12:20 AM

Infernalist: He apparently also sneaks out of his apartment at night and wanders Rome, handing out alms to the poor.  It's said that he had a history of doing this even back in South America.


You know, not to jinx the guy or anything, but if this is true then he is making it way too easy for the Vatican to rid themselves of this troublesome Pope.
 
2013-12-03 04:12:27 AM
Directorscut: tarheel07: He's cruising for an assassination by some extremist Catholic-types.  Tea-Party types. Mafia types


FTFY

FTFY
 
2013-12-03 04:37:57 AM
Sure, and I'm-a the Pope.

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