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2013-12-02 11:57:33 PM
I hate getting dragged to that place. Their food is inedible.
 
2013-12-03 12:16:39 AM
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2013-12-03 12:22:29 AM

NewportBarGuy: I hate getting dragged to that place. Their food is inedible.


I feel like that place got worse, or maybe I just grew up. I used to go there in the mid 90s and seem to remember really liking their salads and breadsticks.

Something happened somewhere between 1999 and today. The last time I went there was about 10 years ago and I recall thinking it had gotten really ghetto. The last salad I ate there was terrible and the breadsticks were soggy crap and the pasta itself...I mean how do you f*ck up pasta?

Still loads better than Applebees.
 
2013-12-03 12:24:28 AM
Watch out McDonald's
 
2013-12-03 12:59:12 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Watch out McDonald's


You haven't lived until you've had McPasta at your local Mickey D's.
 
2013-12-03 01:04:04 AM

bdub77: NewportBarGuy: I hate getting dragged to that place. Their food is inedible.

I feel like that place got worse, or maybe I just grew up. I used to go there in the mid 90s and seem to remember really liking their salads and breadsticks.

Something happened somewhere between 1999 and today. The last time I went there was about 10 years ago and I recall thinking it had gotten really ghetto. The last salad I ate there was terrible and the breadsticks were soggy crap and the pasta itself...I mean how do you f*ck up pasta?

Still loads better than Applebees.


I hear ya.... I always liked Olive Garden, Red Lobster, etc, back in the 90s, although I was a single guy in my 20s then, maybe we have just "grown up".

As far as screwing up pasta, much like Applebees, the pasta gets way overcooked most of the time, that is the issue.  Combine that with sauces which are not really that exciting, and you get "blah" that is barely (if at all) better than picking up Fazolli's drive-thru.
 
2013-12-03 01:04:31 AM

NewportBarGuy: I hate getting dragged to that place. Their food is inedible.


So obviously you don't know what the word inedible means. I've eaten the food. I've seen others eat the food. It's edible.
 
2013-12-03 01:08:13 AM

jaylectricity: NewportBarGuy: I hate getting dragged to that place. Their food is inedible.

So obviously you don't know what the word inedible means. I've eaten the food. I've seen others eat the food. It's edible.


Check out the big brain on Jay!
 
2013-12-03 01:12:06 AM

NewportBarGuy: jaylectricity: NewportBarGuy: I hate getting dragged to that place. Their food is inedible.

So obviously you don't know what the word inedible means. I've eaten the food. I've seen others eat the food. It's edible.

Check out the big brain on Jay!


http://www.fark.com/comments/8042103
 
2013-12-03 01:20:08 AM

NewportBarGuy: jaylectricity: NewportBarGuy: I hate getting dragged to that place. Their food is inedible.

So obviously you don't know what the word inedible means. I've eaten the food. I've seen others eat the food. It's edible.

Check out the big brain on Jay!




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That's a tasty breadstick!
 
2013-12-03 01:22:15 AM
Holy crap, now that I read the Article....I should have kept with the original farking script....
 
2013-12-03 01:27:08 AM
I like Red Lobster(mostly because it's the only place in the Midwest where you can get sea food that isn't outrageously priced), and Applebees  isn't nearly as bad as the internet would have you believe.

But Olive Garden....I'll pass thanks. I have no interest in an Italian themed burger OR pasta.
 
2013-12-03 01:29:24 AM

Darth_Lukecash: Holy crap, now that I read the Article....I should have kept with the original farking script....


That's that Italian burger joint. I hear they got some tasty burgers.
 
2013-12-03 01:32:38 AM

log_jammin: Darth_Lukecash: Holy crap, now that I read the Article....I should have kept with the original farking script....

That's that Italian burger joint. I hear they got some tasty burgers.


What ain't no country I ever heard of. They got Olive Gardens in What?
 
2013-12-03 01:34:50 AM

log_jammin: Darth_Lukecash: Holy crap, now that I read the Article....I should have kept with the original farking script....

That's that Italian burger joint. I hear they got some tasty burgers.




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You mind if I have some of your tasty beverage to wash this down?
 
2013-12-03 01:54:28 AM
Olive garden isn't bad, it's just for the money you can go to a local place for comparable prices. We all focus on the 6.99 burger but a lot of their dishes are 14.99 or 16.99.
 
2013-12-03 02:24:06 AM
Olive Garden is bad. Comparable food can be had for comparable prices at TGIFridays and the selection would be better too.

Not saying that the food would be any better, but at least everyone could eat what they wanted instead of being stuck with Italian choices only.
 
2013-12-03 02:25:31 AM

hervatski: Olive garden isn't bad, it's just for the money you can go to a local place for comparable prices. We all focus on the 6.99 burger but a lot of their dishes are 14.99 or 16.99.


When they have their all you can eat pasta bowl thing you can get a shiatload of food for $10. The one my mom likes always wants to send us home with a second dish even if we're full after the first. It's not a bad deal, imo.
 
2013-12-03 02:26:33 AM
I like Olive Garden. I could give a shiat how "eye-talian" it is, it tastes good to me and that's that. Macaroni Grill is good to, for fancy times.
 
2013-12-03 02:29:36 AM
How are they going to keep the lettuce from wilting in the frozen boil-bag?
 
2013-12-03 02:35:06 AM

dletter: bdub77: NewportBarGuy: I hate getting dragged to that place. Their food is inedible.

I feel like that place got worse, or maybe I just grew up. I used to go there in the mid 90s and seem to remember really liking their salads and breadsticks.

Something happened somewhere between 1999 and today. The last time I went there was about 10 years ago and I recall thinking it had gotten really ghetto. The last salad I ate there was terrible and the breadsticks were soggy crap and the pasta itself...I mean how do you f*ck up pasta?

Still loads better than Applebees.

I hear ya.... I always liked Olive Garden, Red Lobster, etc, back in the 90s, although I was a single guy in my 20s then, maybe we have just "grown up".

As far as screwing up pasta, much like Applebees, the pasta gets way overcooked most of the time, that is the issue.  Combine that with sauces which are not really that exciting, and you get "blah" that is barely (if at all) better than picking up Fazolli's drive-thru.


Nope nope, I think you are all right. They farked up. They used to have a build-your-own pizza the likes of which I would fight to death over the leftovers for, and I hatedleftovers as a kid. Then they got rid of the artichoke hearts. And then the alfredo sauce that came with it. Then they started jacking prices. Last time I went, I had a $25 gift card, and it barely covered dinner for two (forget drinks and appetizer; had to ask for the breadsticks).

Like all companies, they followed the dollar signs and forgot about quality. It's just a lot easier to see it happen in the food industry than when a big box store does it.
 
2013-12-03 02:35:48 AM
I don't know why they're doing so poorly.

And, yes, I know what their food tastes like.

I also know what McDonald's food tastes like and they made nearly as much money as the next four top fast food restaurants combined.

They both serve fatty, over-salted, over-sugared comfort food.  Why does McDonald's truck on while Olive Garden fails?  I don't know, I don't eat there, I haven't been to one in years.

Someone up above suggested price, someone else suggested a change in America's tastes.  Maybe all that and more.

I don't know what the answer is.

What I do know is the answer isn't going to be this burger.
 
2013-12-03 02:38:02 AM
Authentic Italian, hum. Best way to get authentic Italian olive oil? Puree an olive and mix it in soybean oil. Then strain out the olive.

Or buy it from California. This probably doesn't have anything to do with the article, just felt like saying something.
 
2013-12-03 02:40:47 AM
I must admit that every now and then I get a hankering for Olive Garden, same as any fast food joint. It fills a certain niche (in mah belly!)

Great, now I'm hungry. :(
 
2013-12-03 02:41:05 AM
They need to come out with a spaghetti that has cut up hotdogs like my meemah used to make.
and how can it be that in the whole country of India there isn't one Outback steakhouse. Makes no sense.
 
2013-12-03 02:42:16 AM

timujin: What I do know is the answer isn't going to be this burger.


Olive Garden is in a tight spot: people see it as more fancy than McDonald's so they won't go there for an everyday meal.  However being "Olive Garden" they can really serve only Italian food (or a perversion like an "Italian burger"), which means that other chains like the Cheesecake Factory can gobble up the higher end dollars as they aren't as limited in their menus.  Plus the food there is better and going into one has more of a wow factor.

They're getting squeezed from both ends and don't really have a plan on how to make more money.
 
2013-12-03 02:49:56 AM
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Authentic Italian my ass.
 
2013-12-03 02:50:00 AM
Make your "Italian" food more Italian.

Don't offer me a $10 burger when I can get something better and cheaper from Carl's Jr or Jack in the Box.

//Best Italian food I ever had was in Cortland, NY.  A little place called Fabio's.
 
2013-12-03 02:54:45 AM
The TV ad just came on H2
 
2013-12-03 02:55:17 AM

meat0918: Make your "Italian" food more Italian.

Don't offer me a $10 burger when I can get something better and cheaper from Carl's Jr or Jack in the Box.

//Best Italian food I ever had was in Cortland, NY.  A little place called Fabio's.


I had Napoli's in Texas. Omg. . . the shiat you could get there. And the prices were half of Olive Garden's.

/hole-in-the-wall restaurants are almost always the best
 
2013-12-03 02:57:51 AM

lelio: timujin: What I do know is the answer isn't going to be this burger.

Olive Garden is in a tight spot: people see it as more fancy than McDonald's so they won't go there for an everyday meal.  However being "Olive Garden" they can really serve only Italian food (or a perversion like an "Italian burger"), which means that other chains like the Cheesecake Factory can gobble up the higher end dollars as they aren't as limited in their menus.  Plus the food there is better and going into one has more of a wow factor.

They're getting squeezed from both ends and don't really have a plan on how to make more money.


The problem is this: They stopped giving you good food at a reasonable price. Olive Garden was, at one time, a tasty treat. It was a little more than a Fast Food place.

But the fact is, consumers don't have the money they once had. That's why Fast Food places are rapidly expanding their dollar menus. Olive Garden, much like many food corporations, cheapened their ingredients, lowered their portions and slightly raised their prices.

Then they wonder why people aren't showing up.
 
2013-12-03 02:58:57 AM

lelio: timujin: What I do know is the answer isn't going to be this burger.

Olive Garden is in a tight spot: people see it as more fancy than McDonald's so they won't go there for an everyday meal.  However being "Olive Garden" they can really serve only Italian food (or a perversion like an "Italian burger"), which means that other chains like the Cheesecake Factory can gobble up the higher end dollars as they aren't as limited in their menus.  Plus the food there is better and going into one has more of a wow factor.

They're getting squeezed from both ends and don't really have a plan on how to make more money.


Went to The Cheesecake Factory for the first time recently and I don't see the appeal. There's a reason it's called The Cheesecake Factory and not The Cheesecake Artisanal Workshop.
 
2013-12-03 03:06:06 AM

timujin: I don't know why they're doing so poorly.

And, yes, I know what their food tastes like.

I also know what McDonald's food tastes like and they made nearly as much money as the next four top fast food restaurants combined.

They both serve fatty, over-salted, over-sugared comfort food.  Why does McDonald's truck on while Olive Garden fails?  I don't know, I don't eat there, I haven't been to one in years.

Someone up above suggested price, someone else suggested a change in America's tastes.  Maybe all that and more.

I don't know what the answer is.

What I do know is the answer isn't going to be this burger.


Price has something to do with it. I think the last time we went to McDs, it was like $25 for 4 of us.

A few days earlier, we went to Olive Garden (gift cards) and it was over $50 for the 4 of us and we didn't get anything special. My boys had spaghetti and meatballs and it just wasn't good at all. It's kind of hard to screw up spaghetti, but they managed to do it. I can open cans and make a quick sauce that is better.
 
2013-12-03 03:07:10 AM
fusillade762:

Went to The Cheesecake Factory for the first time recently and I don't see the appeal. There's a reason it's called The Cheesecake Factory and not The Cheesecake Artisanal Workshop.

I would go to a place that would shoot cheesecake in my mouth with a cannon.
 
2013-12-03 03:09:47 AM
chi-chi's will have its green onion revenge on the lot of them
 
2013-12-03 03:15:16 AM

fusillade762: hervatski: Olive garden isn't bad, it's just for the money you can go to a local place for comparable prices. We all focus on the 6.99 burger but a lot of their dishes are 14.99 or 16.99.

When they have their all you can eat pasta bowl thing you can get a shiatload of food for $10. The one my mom likes always wants to send us home with a second dish even if we're full after the first. It's not a bad deal, imo.


the all you can eat pasta is in a whole nother category.  Me and my friends in college nearly put them out of business a couple times.
 
2013-12-03 03:15:54 AM

ladodger34: A few days earlier, we went to Olive Garden (gift cards)


Also rather telling that there are two of us in this thread that went to Olive Garden on gift cards, and I think it's safe to say neither of us would go back otherwise.

/as in, we'll only go if it's free. If I were Darden's CEO, that would make me cringe.
 
2013-12-03 03:18:01 AM
youve got a better chance of getting authentic italian food by turning on your nintendo and having mario and luigi jump out of it and coming to life in your kitchen than you have of dining at olive garden.
 
2013-12-03 03:18:21 AM
Now I have to put quotes around "Italian" when I call it "Italian 'food'".
 
2013-12-03 03:19:04 AM
All of you people who ask "what's wrong with this country" and come up with silly answers like, "the school system" or "health care" or whatnot.

This is what's wrong with the country:
in October, hedge fund Barington Capital Group LP took a 2.8 percent stake and began pushing for changes.

2.8 percent stake, but they get changes they want because they have captial backing to sue you to the Stone Age if you do anything that's they judge to be unprofitable.  These little abuses do far more and wider-ranging damage to much a larger portion of the population than issues like "gay marriage or lack thereof".  Not that those issues aren't important, but some of the most important issues just aren't sexy enough for anyone to care about them.

/phew, that's a little too much standing up for something serious for one night, back to trolling
 
2013-12-03 03:19:51 AM
Oh, yeah, I'm just going to say Olive Garden blows just because I'm above ever going there.
 
2013-12-03 03:21:54 AM

ladodger34: timujin: I don't know why they're doing so poorly.

And, yes, I know what their food tastes like.

I also know what McDonald's food tastes like and they made nearly as much money as the next four top fast food restaurants combined.

They both serve fatty, over-salted, over-sugared comfort food.  Why does McDonald's truck on while Olive Garden fails?  I don't know, I don't eat there, I haven't been to one in years.

Someone up above suggested price, someone else suggested a change in America's tastes.  Maybe all that and more.

I don't know what the answer is.

What I do know is the answer isn't going to be this burger.

Price has something to do with it. I think the last time we went to McDs, it was like $25 for 4 of us.

A few days earlier, we went to Olive Garden (gift cards) and it was over $50 for the 4 of us and we didn't get anything special. My boys had spaghetti and meatballs and it just wasn't good at all. It's kind of hard to screw up spaghetti, but they managed to do it. I can open cans and make a quick sauce that is better.


This is the result of corporate ownership of restaurants.

(this isn't a screed against the idea or validity of the corporate model)

but one of the things about being public is that you can't just make money, you have to make more money this year than you did last year.  If you made a billion dollars last year and only make a billion this year, maybe gain a bit to hedge against inflation, then according to Wall Street, you're failing.

The only way to make more money is to either grow, raise prices or cut costs.

With a stalled economy, there probably aren't a lot of new suburbs crying out for an Olive Garden.  It seems they've done both of the latter two options.

Now they're trying to grow again, but this time into a new market.  Thing is, they kind of took a dump on the old market first, so I don't see a whole lotta new customers rushing for their doors.
 
2013-12-03 03:32:18 AM
Did they train their chefs to make these burgers in Tuscany too?
 
2013-12-03 03:34:47 AM

aerojockey: All of you people who ask "what's wrong with this country" and come up with silly answers like, "the school system" or "health care" or whatnot.

This is what's wrong with the country:
in October, hedge fund Barington Capital Group LP took a 2.8 percent stake and began pushing for changes.

2.8 percent stake, but they get changes they want because they have captial backing to sue you to the Stone Age if you do anything that's they judge to be unprofitable.  These little abuses do far more and wider-ranging damage to much a larger portion of the population than issues like "gay marriage or lack thereof".  Not that those issues aren't important, but some of the most important issues just aren't sexy enough for anyone to care about them.

/phew, that's a little too much standing up for something serious for one night, back to trolling


so...in your mind, what's wrong with this country is that a hedge fund can make the Olive Garden serve hamburgers...and that is more important(and does more damage than) than issues like "gay marriage or lack thereof", because "burger". or something.

ok then.
 
2013-12-03 03:35:09 AM

Peki: ladodger34: A few days earlier, we went to Olive Garden (gift cards)

Also rather telling that there are two of us in this thread that went to Olive Garden on gift cards, and I think it's safe to say neither of us would go back otherwise.

/as in, we'll only go if it's free. If I were Darden's CEO, that would make me cringe.


And truth be told, those gift cards had bern in my wife's wallet for a long time before we used them. It just so happened that we were on a roadtrip and the Olive Garden was near our hotel.

It was probably the worst food we had during the whole trip and the most expensive.
 
2013-12-03 03:41:58 AM
Last time I went to an Olive Garden was about 10 years back.  At that time it had already declined to the point you could mistake their 'cuisine' for something from a Fazoli's drive-thru at 2-3 times the price.
 
2013-12-03 03:44:47 AM

Peki: /hole-in-the-wall restaurants are almost always the best


^^^
THIS

Almost every chain out there is corporate, pre-made, out of a freezer box, full of things that should be on shelves of a hardware store type "food"

It's a shame that so few people know how to cook for themselves nowadays.

/get off my lawn
 
2013-12-03 03:48:44 AM

log_jammin: aerojockey: All of you people who ask "what's wrong with this country" and come up with silly answers like, "the school system" or "health care" or whatnot.

This is what's wrong with the country:
in October, hedge fund Barington Capital Group LP took a 2.8 percent stake and began pushing for changes.

2.8 percent stake, but they get changes they want because they have captial backing to sue you to the Stone Age if you do anything that's they judge to be unprofitable.  These little abuses do far more and wider-ranging damage to much a larger portion of the population than issues like "gay marriage or lack thereof".  Not that those issues aren't important, but some of the most important issues just aren't sexy enough for anyone to care about them.

/phew, that's a little too much standing up for something serious for one night, back to trolling

so...in your mind, what's wrong with this country is that a hedge fund can make the Olive Garden serve hamburgers...and that is more important(and does more damage than) than issues like "gay marriage or lack thereof", because "burger". or something.

ok then.


drawception.com
 
2013-12-03 03:59:01 AM
jaylectricity: So obviously you don't know what the word inedible means. I've eaten the food. I've seen others eat the food. It's edible.

One of the definitions of "inedible" is "unfit to be eaten".

Just because people eat it doesn't mean it's fit to be eaten.

It's all subjective anyway, something that's edible to a human could be inedible to a dog. Whereas something inedible to a human is excellent noms for bacteria.

When someone says something is "inedible" the first question that should pop into your mind is, who is it inedible for.
 
2013-12-03 04:15:10 AM
Mama mia! Next they'll stop offering unlimited breadsticks.
 
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