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2013-12-02 08:20:10 PM  
Brooklyn, the Midwest's dumpster.
 
2013-12-02 08:28:48 PM  
True Bushwick hipsters play with dolls.

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-12-02 08:36:19 PM  
So is this a satire website like the onion?
 
2013-12-02 08:43:14 PM  
They're gentrifying an already gentrified neighborhood?

This is some kind of gentriception.
 
2013-12-02 08:51:50 PM  
CSB:

One night I had the misfortune of having to hang out with a friend of a friend in Brooklyn. I don't mind hipsters, but this girl was insufferable and generally nasty to me and my then-girlfriend (now-fiancee). In any case, we're passing one of those new luxury buildings and she goes into this rant about how buildings like that are "the enemy" and how they were changing Brooklyn from what it always had been. As someone who's family has been in Brooklyn in the 1920's, I burst out laughing hysterically. It was either that or let my head explode.

/CSB
 
2013-12-02 08:58:19 PM  

FreakinB: CSB:

One night I had the misfortune of having to hang out with a friend of a friend in Brooklyn. I don't mind hipsters, but this girl was insufferable and generally nasty to me and my then-girlfriend (now-fiancee). In any case, we're passing one of those new luxury buildings and she goes into this rant about how buildings like that are "the enemy" and how they were changing Brooklyn from what it always had been. As someone who's whose family has been in Brooklyn in the 1920's, I burst out laughing hysterically. It was either that or let my head explode.

/CSB


Goddammit. FTFM.
 
2013-12-02 10:05:02 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2013-12-02 10:31:47 PM  
Why the hell does anyone live in New York?
 
2013-12-03 12:14:31 AM  
Hey buddy...can you sparadigm shift?
 
2013-12-03 12:15:36 AM  

Shostie: They're gentrifying an already gentrified neighborhood?

This is some kind of gentriception.


I'm about to move into a gentrified neighborhood that is going under the same transition so I'm getting a kick.
 
2013-12-03 12:17:37 AM  
I'm still trying to figure out what a hipster is beyond being anything the speaker personally dislikes.
 
2013-12-03 12:18:59 AM  
This article was written by someone who huffs glue.  The people interviewed were all on nitrous at the time.  Seriously though, that is the ugliest apartment building I have ever seen.
 
2013-12-03 12:19:59 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Why the hell does anyone live in New York?


Nobody does. It's too crowded.
 
2013-12-03 12:23:47 AM  
Writer of TFA deserves to have fingers broken for describing 4 people in a 3-bedroom apt as "cram"
 
2013-12-03 12:26:03 AM  
Fark has some kind of bizarre unhealthy obsession with 'hipsters'. In 3 of 5 greens above and below.  No one I know uses that term but here it's over saturated...time to find a new common enemy?
 
2013-12-03 12:27:12 AM  

jaytkay: Benevolent Misanthrope: Why the hell does anyone live in New York?

Nobody does. It's too crowded.


It's worth a visit but I can't see why anyone would want to live there.
 
2013-12-03 12:27:56 AM  
static.fjcdn.com
 
2013-12-03 12:30:23 AM  
We need to make like we did with the Iran-Iraq war, and arm both sides in the hope that they wipe eachother out.
 
2013-12-03 12:33:05 AM  

jaytkay: Benevolent Misanthrope: Why the hell does anyone live in New York?

Nobody does. It's too crowded.


Like how nobody drives there, too much traffic.
 
2013-12-03 12:37:35 AM  
The trust fund hipster is a myth. People just don't want to believe that hipsters can make money and that they are young enough to dispose of all of it.

This building isn't even that expensive. $3400 for a 3 BR? Great, I quite easily paid for my old apt in south Brooklyn at $1175 a month and I'm a freaking bartender. I know hipsters who make three times what I make.
 
2013-12-03 12:40:20 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Why the hell does anyone live in New York?


I would if I had the money. I like cities- I'm a flaneuse. *shrugs*. I'd also live in Paris, London, Berlin, etc.
 
2013-12-03 12:40:28 AM  
Overheard on Bedford Ave -  "Yea, I remember when that new Red Mango used to be a Sprint store......sniff". Gentrification - the next generation. Who didn't see that coming? History marches onward....

/moved to Brooklyn in 1995. Willamsburg. So much fun back then. Left in 2006.
//moved there from SF's Mission District...
 
2013-12-03 12:41:34 AM  
Our war was cold before it was cool!
 
2013-12-03 12:44:47 AM  
Until the philosophy which hold one beer superior
And another Inferior
Is finally And permanently
Discredited And abandoned
Everywhere is war

That until there no longer
First class and second class gears of any cycles
Until the skinny of a man's jeans
Is of no more significance than the color of his socks -
Me say war.
 
2013-12-03 12:44:51 AM  
It's kind of like "The Warriors," only everyone is wearing ironic mustaches and skinny jeans.

OH GOD HOLLYWOOD FORGET I SAID THAT AND PLEASE DON'T MAKE THAT A REAL MOVIE
 
2013-12-03 12:47:59 AM  

coco ebert: Benevolent Misanthrope: Why the hell does anyone live in New York?

I would if I had the money. I like cities- I'm a flaneuse. *shrugs*. I'd also live in Paris, London, Berlin, etc.


What is that your word of the day?   flaneuse?

Ok that is a cool word, I am stealing that.

I can't afford to live in New York but do...don't let that stop you.  Sheesh I bet 75% of the people in the village can't afford the damned place.   Its more bracing living here when creditors are chasing you down.  It helps keep you sharp here.
 
2013-12-03 12:50:59 AM  

gingerjet: Shostie: They're gentrifying an already gentrified neighborhood?

This is some kind of gentriception.

I'm about to move into a gentrified neighborhood that is going under the same transition so I'm getting a kick.


I'm living in a gentrified neighborhood that got a government-subsidized socialized housing unit spraypainted with "fark gentrification".

/CSb?
 
2013-12-03 12:54:40 AM  

jonnya: Overheard on Bedford Ave -  "Yea, I remember when that new Red Mango used to be a Sprint store......sniff". Gentrification - the next generation. Who didn't see that coming? History marches onward....


Frozen yogurt is in it's last days in New York.  The great froyo market crash of 2013 has left many homeless people wearing Pinkberry uniforms.

/moved to Brooklyn in 1995. Willamsburg. So much fun back then. Left in 2006.

Wow bad in the olden days ehh

//moved there from SF's Mission District...

How does San Fran compare to Billyburg?  Favorable?
 
2013-12-03 12:56:09 AM  

coco ebert: Benevolent Misanthrope: Why the hell does anyone live in New York?

I would if I had the money. I like cities- I'm a flaneuse. *shrugs*. I'd also live in Paris, London, Berlin, etc.


I'd live in Paris, London, or Berlin.

But, then again, those cities aren't populated by New Yorkers.
 
2013-12-03 12:56:56 AM  

401kman: coco ebert: Benevolent Misanthrope: Why the hell does anyone live in New York?

I would if I had the money. I like cities- I'm a flaneuse. *shrugs*. I'd also live in Paris, London, Berlin, etc.

What is that your word of the day?   flaneuse?

Ok that is a cool word, I am stealing that.

I can't afford to live in New York but do...don't let that stop you.  Sheesh I bet 75% of the people in the village can't afford the damned place.   Its more bracing living here when creditors are chasing you down.  It helps keep you sharp here.


I feminized the French term "flaneur" so that might not be an actual word! There's not really a good term in English for a city person that likes the feel of the city and a particular kind of lifestyle. "Urbanite" maybe?

I did the whole "struggling in NYC" thing in my twenties. In my thirties? Nah. I need some space and comfort and the city is just too unaffordable.
 
2013-12-03 01:01:05 AM  

Bumblefark: coco ebert: Benevolent Misanthrope: Why the hell does anyone live in New York?

I would if I had the money. I like cities- I'm a flaneuse. *shrugs*. I'd also live in Paris, London, Berlin, etc.

I'd live in Paris, London, or Berlin.

But, then again, those cities aren't populated by New Yorkers.


/from Texas, live in New York now.

Have no idea what people have against New Yawkers...stereotypical bullshiat I guess
 
2013-12-03 01:04:54 AM  
If you're a New Yorker, you love almost everything about it. As for people who criticize NY because of the expense, please don't come here. It's way too smart for you; you'll never figure out what makes it special. If it's unaffordable, that generally means you didn't succeed here. The whole point of coming here is to excel. If you do well, you'll have plenty of space and comfort.

Not an easy city to succeed in, but if you do, you can make it anywhere. Cue Frank Sinatra
 
2013-12-03 01:08:10 AM  

coco ebert: 401kman: coco ebert: Benevolent Misanthrope: Why the hell does anyone live in New York?

I would if I had the money. I like cities- I'm a flaneuse. *shrugs*. I'd also live in Paris, London, Berlin, etc.

What is that your word of the day?   flaneuse?

Ok that is a cool word, I am stealing that.

I can't afford to live in New York but do...don't let that stop you.  Sheesh I bet 75% of the people in the village can't afford the damned place.   Its more bracing living here when creditors are chasing you down.  It helps keep you sharp here.

I feminized the French term "flaneur" so that might not be an actual word! There's not really a good term in English for a city person that likes the feel of the city and a particular kind of lifestyle. "Urbanite" maybe?


I looked it up.... it said "man about town".  Works for me.

I did the whole "struggling in NYC" thing in my twenties. In my thirties? Nah. I need some space and comfort and the city is just too unaffordable.

Wimp.  I don't get why people move out of the city in their 30s.  My sister did too, now she lives in a suburban cesspool.  Put their daughter in competitive kindergartens and other demented weirdness.
 
2013-12-03 01:08:45 AM  

Bumblefark: coco ebert: Benevolent Misanthrope: Why the hell does anyone live in New York?

I would if I had the money. I like cities- I'm a flaneuse. *shrugs*. I'd also live in Paris, London, Berlin, etc.

I'd live in Paris, London, or Berlin.

But, then again, those cities aren't populated by New Yorkers.


Heh. I never had a problem with New Yorkers. People were pretty much always friendly. Busy and brusque, but friendly.
 
2013-12-03 01:09:55 AM  

401kman: coco ebert: 401kman: coco ebert: Benevolent Misanthrope: Why the hell does anyone live in New York?

I would if I had the money. I like cities- I'm a flaneuse. *shrugs*. I'd also live in Paris, London, Berlin, etc.

What is that your word of the day?   flaneuse?

Ok that is a cool word, I am stealing that.

I can't afford to live in New York but do...don't let that stop you.  Sheesh I bet 75% of the people in the village can't afford the damned place.   Its more bracing living here when creditors are chasing you down.  It helps keep you sharp here.

I feminized the French term "flaneur" so that might not be an actual word! There's not really a good term in English for a city person that likes the feel of the city and a particular kind of lifestyle. "Urbanite" maybe?

I looked it up.... it said "man about town".  Works for me.

I did the whole "struggling in NYC" thing in my twenties. In my thirties? Nah. I need some space and comfort and the city is just too unaffordable.

Wimp.  I don't get why people move out of the city in their 30s.  My sister did too, now she lives in a suburban cesspool.  Put their daughter in competitive kindergartens and other demented weirdness.


Wellll, my story's a bit more complicated because I'm a dual citizen and I moved back to Istanbul. So it's not like I moved to the suburbs, I just went to another city. But I get your point.
 
2013-12-03 01:12:08 AM  

DominaNY: If you're a New Yorker, you love almost everything about it. As for people who criticize NY because of the expense, please don't come here. It's way too smart for you; you'll never figure out what makes it special. If it's unaffordable, that generally means you didn't succeed here. The whole point of coming here is to excel. If you do well, you'll have plenty of space and comfort.

Not an easy city to succeed in, but if you do, you can make it anywhere. Cue Frank Sinatra


Sheesh.  Elitist bullshiat.

The great thing about this town is that people like you and me can live in this town and completely be different and that is cool.
 
2013-12-03 01:12:58 AM  

DominaNY: If you're a New Yorker, you love almost everything about it. As for people who criticize NY because of the expense, please don't come here. It's way too smart for you; you'll never figure out what makes it special. If it's unaffordable, that generally means you didn't succeed here. The whole point of coming here is to excel. If you do well, you'll have plenty of space and comfort.

Not an easy city to succeed in, but if you do, you can make it anywhere. Cue Frank Sinatra


What constitutes "success"? I was a public school teacher, and while you can make a decent salary and have good benefits, you probably won't ever be the type of financial success that would allow you to live a comfortable life in the city. Well, parts of northern Manhattan, Queens, the Bronx, and Brooklyn are still affordable but most of Manhattan has priced out working to middle class people. I don't think that means that those people failed.
 
2013-12-03 01:14:58 AM  

DominaNY: If you're a New Yorker, you love almost everything about it. As for people who criticize NY because of the expense, please don't come here. It's way too smart for you; you'll never figure out what makes it special. If it's unaffordable, that generally means you didn't succeed here. The whole point of coming here is to excel. If you do well, you'll have plenty of space and comfort.

Not an easy city to succeed in, but if you do, you can make it anywhere. Cue Frank Sinatra



Location:  Los Angeles, CA

I, uh... what?
 
2013-12-03 01:16:30 AM  
Civil war between hipsters?

I'm just waiting for someone with better creative writing skills than I to "Ken Burns-ify" a letter bearing witness to the horrors of that conflict.

Ah hell, I'll get it started.

- cue "Ashokan Farewell" -

"My dearest Tallulah,

Here on the eve of the Battle of Bushwick, my thoughts grow heavy with grief. I can barely put artisanal sharpened pencil to bespoke paper as my mind recounts the savagery I've witnessed...
 
2013-12-03 01:20:01 AM  

coco ebert: DominaNY: If you're a New Yorker, you love almost everything about it. As for people who criticize NY because of the expense, please don't come here. It's way too smart for you; you'll never figure out what makes it special. If it's unaffordable, that generally means you didn't succeed here. The whole point of coming here is to excel. If you do well, you'll have plenty of space and comfort.

Not an easy city to succeed in, but if you do, you can make it anywhere. Cue Frank Sinatra

What constitutes "success"? I was a public school teacher, and while you can make a decent salary and have good benefits, you probably won't ever be the type of financial success that would allow you to live a comfortable life in the city. Well, parts of northern Manhattan, Queens, the Bronx, and Brooklyn are still affordable but most of Manhattan has priced out working to middle class people. I don't think that means that those people failed.


To those types Success is a type of cologne by Ralf Lauren.  I rarely hear real New Yorkers talk like this.   Most people here realize that it takes all types to make the city function.  But elitist douchebags don't really add anything to the mix.
 
2013-12-03 01:21:47 AM  

401kman: Bumblefark: coco ebert: Benevolent Misanthrope: Why the hell does anyone live in New York?

I would if I had the money. I like cities- I'm a flaneuse. *shrugs*. I'd also live in Paris, London, Berlin, etc.

I'd live in Paris, London, or Berlin.

But, then again, those cities aren't populated by New Yorkers.

/from Texas, live in New York now.

Have no idea what people have against New Yawkers...stereotypical bullshiat I guess


/live in Texas now, lived in New York previously. (Upstate, but had to come down to the city regularly to see my wife's family.)

Nah. All stereotypes have at least a grain of truth to them.

In this case, we talking about something roughly the size of a bolder.
 
2013-12-03 01:22:50 AM  

401kman: coco ebert: DominaNY: If you're a New Yorker, you love almost everything about it. As for people who criticize NY because of the expense, please don't come here. It's way too smart for you; you'll never figure out what makes it special. If it's unaffordable, that generally means you didn't succeed here. The whole point of coming here is to excel. If you do well, you'll have plenty of space and comfort.

Not an easy city to succeed in, but if you do, you can make it anywhere. Cue Frank Sinatra

What constitutes "success"? I was a public school teacher, and while you can make a decent salary and have good benefits, you probably won't ever be the type of financial success that would allow you to live a comfortable life in the city. Well, parts of northern Manhattan, Queens, the Bronx, and Brooklyn are still affordable but most of Manhattan has priced out working to middle class people. I don't think that means that those people failed.

To those types Success is a type of cologne by Ralf Lauren.  I rarely hear real New Yorkers talk like this.   Most people here realize that it takes all types to make the city function.  But elitist douchebags don't really add anything to the mix.


Pretty much.
 
2013-12-03 01:27:54 AM  

Bumblefark: In this case, we talking about something roughly the size of a bolder.


Also, I'm too hip to use spell check.
 
2013-12-03 01:52:08 AM  

generallyso: I'm still trying to figure out what a hipster is beyond being anything the speaker personally dislikes.


Please STFU about this, "Still trying to figure out what a hipster is" bullshait talk. It has been well established that a Hipster is a person who intentionally does things outside of the "mainstream" for the sake of doing things "differently," as opposed to doing it for factors such as "personal gratification" and/or "the betterment of society." Why I say this is because you can have the most uptight, meat/dairy free vegan Hipster giving vocal shout outs to the "collective organic farm" she volunteers at every bi-weekend (no pun intended) and trying to get you to think of how evil that cheeseburger you're carrying out of the Five Guys (or 'insert your favorite fast food location here') is, and then you catch her the next day coming out of KFC with a small bucket of chicken. When you confront her about it, the Hipster girl claims to "only be eating it ironically" or "I need the protein, since being vegan doesn't give me enough, so it's really ok for me to do this", where then the urge to strangle and strangle hard comes into your head.
 
2013-12-03 01:52:11 AM  
Well, I know that article was written in English, and I recognized all of the words, but I do not understand what that was about.
 
2013-12-03 01:54:56 AM  

coco ebert: Bumblefark: coco ebert: Benevolent Misanthrope: Why the hell does anyone live in New York?

I would if I had the money. I like cities- I'm a flaneuse. *shrugs*. I'd also live in Paris, London, Berlin, etc.

I'd live in Paris, London, or Berlin.

But, then again, those cities aren't populated by New Yorkers.

Heh. I never had a problem with New Yorkers. People were pretty much always friendly. Busy and brusque, but friendly.


Oh, it wasn't a comment on their friendliness. Actually, I'd agree to that. They are...Americans, to the nth degree, in that respect.

"Busy and brusque"? Meh, so are most city-dwellers.

New Yorkers are just a...weirdly myopic people. For example, it's not at all strange to meet people who have never left the city for any length of time, who know next to nothing of the outside world, and who (nevertheless) find nothing at all remarkable about those facts.

To live in such a large city, but to live in such a circumscribed world -- one mostly defined by whatever borough and/or ethnic grouping a person happened to be born into...that's kinda farked up.

Just my take, tho.
 
2013-12-03 02:04:00 AM  
arm them.  let them have their war.
we all win.
 
2013-12-03 02:10:57 AM  

coco ebert: Benevolent Misanthrope: Why the hell does anyone live in New York?

I would if I had the money. I like cities- I'm a flaneuse. *shrugs*. I'd also live in Paris, London, Berlin, etc.


Isn't "flaneuse" really just another word for a female trust-fund hipster?

NTTAWWT.

I don't know what category I fall into.. aging single male nerd, perhaps?

(on Fark??)

I grew up in a small town, but I do like living in the city.  I know a lot of hipsters, if you account for all of the varying definitions of what Fark would call a "hipster", be they actors, artists, writers, photographers, fire eaters, roller derby girls, or burlesque dancers.  I know a banjo player with dramatic facial hair and a restaurant owner who only wears vintage (because nothing is well enough made these days... now tell me you don't say that about shiat all the time).  Most of them make a good living, some make obscene amounts of money, I even know, contrary to what FDR Jones claims, a couple of trust fund hipsters.

I find that if I accept that someone really digging "fixie bikes" is no weirder than me really digging "arguing on the internet", everyone falls into two categories... whether they're assholes or not.

(I'll let you decide where on the "bell curve of assholishness" to put Fark)

<anecdotal data point> Hipsters seem to fall into roughly the same percentages as any other generalized population </anecdotal data point>

Besides, this place sounds great... if you did decide to live in the city, maybe that's where you work and you don't want to commute, or maybe you just like cities.  Why hate on this particular place?  It has a farking wood shop.  Seriously, the amenities sound fantastic.

But.

You have to be able to put up with hipsters.


/See anecdotal data point.
 
2013-12-03 02:36:19 AM  
So what's the difference between a Hipster and just a plain old douchebag?
 
2013-12-03 03:50:01 AM  

DarkSoulNoHope: Please STFU about this, "Still trying to figure out what a hipster is" bullshait talk. It has been well established that a Hipster is a person who intentionally does things outside of the "mainstream" for the sake of doing things "differently," as opposed to doing it for factors such as "personal gratification" and/or "the betterment of society." Why I say this is because you can have the most uptight, meat/dairy free vegan Hipster giving vocal shout outs to the "collective organic farm" she volunteers at every bi-weekend (no pun intended) and trying to get you to think of how evil that cheeseburger you're carrying out of the Five Guys (or 'insert your favorite fast food location here') is, and then you catch her the next day coming out of KFC with a small bucket of chicken. When you confront her about it, the Hipster girl claims to "only be eating it ironically" or "I need the protein, since being vegan doesn't give me enough, so it's really ok for me to do this", where then the urge to strangle and strangle hard comes into your head.



Why is that person termed a 'hipster' instead of an ordinary hypocrite?
 
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