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(Slate)   The American Family Association is calling for a boycott of Radio Shack over the retailer's ban on Christmas. Tracking citizens who purchase batteries still kosher, though   (slate.com) divider line 62
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2013-12-02 05:15:32 PM
I go to the mall every night to pick the gf from work. Trust me, there is no war on Christmas. Christmas songs are blasting everywhere, most stores are decorated, there's a drunken fat fark doing the Santa thing, what more do these people want?

There are other holidays other than Christmas you know, assholes.
 
2013-12-02 05:23:25 PM
Man, I haven't been to a Radio Shack in years. I can't believe they are still around.
 
2013-12-02 05:25:08 PM
Seriously, get over yourselves already.
 
2013-12-02 05:26:48 PM
This is the first time in years I've considered going to Radio Shack.
 
2013-12-02 05:27:49 PM

FTFA: Go to www.radioshack.com and type "Christmas" in the search bar. As of today, the website brings up zero results.

The American Family Association outrage is once again missplaced: Radio Shack's search does return results for Christmas

However, a search for "traditional marriage," found 0 items. What's up with that? Why is Radio Shack launching a proverbial pincer movement on the flanks of traditional marriage?

They won't even sell male and female plugs together.

thumbs3.ebaystatic.com
Sample of Radio Shack's Homosexual Friendly Packaging Policy

 
2013-12-02 05:29:01 PM

Nabb1: Man, I haven't been to a Radio Shack in years. I can't believe they are still around.


I remember when Radio Shack was the place to buy breadboards, and capacitors, and everyone who worked there could decode the colored bands on a resistor. Now? Cell phones, batteries, and "I think the LED's are back there..."
 
2013-12-02 05:29:38 PM
So they're now the only place in the mall where you can go for a few minutes to escape the endless cacophony of the same songs over and over and over?

If I were them, I'd say--"I think the Lord Christ would appreciate our little quiet nook in this otherwise loud and garish temple of excess."

I know I do.
 
2013-12-02 05:36:11 PM

Gecko Gingrich: Nabb1: Man, I haven't been to a Radio Shack in years. I can't believe they are still around.

I remember when Radio Shack was the place to buy breadboards, and capacitors, and everyone who worked there could decode the colored bands on a resistor. Now? Cell phones, batteries, and "I think the LED's are back there..."


i42.tinypic.com
 
2013-12-02 05:44:20 PM
Would Radio Shack notice if they were boycotted? Seriously, what are you going to do start going just so you can stop in protest?
 
2013-12-02 05:45:13 PM
They must make a killing selling off the user databases.   No other way to explain how RS lives.
 
2013-12-02 05:52:44 PM
Oh good, it's "War on Christmas" time! Time to whip this out:
imageshack.com

I snapped this picture while working on the Fox lot.
 
2013-12-02 06:11:23 PM

sentex: They must make a killing selling off the user databases.   No other way to explain how RS lives.


I don't think they do that anymore. At some point I think they realized people don't want to give out their personal information every time they need to pick up a cable.
 
2013-12-02 06:16:32 PM
Happy Hanukkah Radio Shack!

/When the government stays open on Christmas, I'll believe there's a war on.
 
2013-12-02 06:21:52 PM
Guess I'll be shopping at Radio Shack more often. Even after the holidays.
 
2013-12-02 06:34:35 PM

Nabb1: Man, I haven't been to a Radio Shack in years. I can't believe they are still around.


Neither can their CEO.
 
2013-12-02 06:39:40 PM

Gecko Gingrich: I remember when Radio Shack was the place to buy breadboards, and capacitors, and everyone who worked there could decode the colored bands on a resistor. Now? Cell phones, batteries, and "I think the LED's are back there..."


I did buy a guitar chord at Radio Shack the other day but yeah, they are pretty useless for most things that aren't cell phones and radio controlled cars nowadays. The good thing is they don't ask you for your phone # anymore.
 
2013-12-02 06:41:23 PM
Remember when Christian fundamentalists would get themselves into a lather about the "commercialization" of Christmas and called for a return to simpler values? Yeah, neither does Sarah Palin
 
2013-12-02 06:42:04 PM

Gecko Gingrich: Nabb1: Man, I haven't been to a Radio Shack in years. I can't believe they are still around.

I remember when Radio Shack was the place to buy breadboards, and capacitors, and everyone who worked there could decode the colored bands on a resistor. Now? Cell phones, batteries, and "I think the LED's are back there..."


The first assignment in one of my college courses was to go to radio shack and ask for a wire wrap tool and report back the confused look you get.
 
2013-12-02 06:42:16 PM

sentex: They must make a killing selling off the user databases.   No other way to explain how RS lives.


Welp, back in the early days of DSS satellite (ie DirecTv and what was then called Primestar), the Radio Crack profit margin was largely off of residuals from selling a satellite contract. As in, you paid I think $50 for a single box and a dish, got free basic installation from a RS contractor, paid DirecTV around $80 a month. RS got a flat commission for selling the equipment, around $450. They also got, in perpetuity, a percentage of the bill you paid DirecTV every month. The deal was similar with Cingular, and Bell Atlantic Mobile, and GTE Wireless (this was in my college days, before Verizon Wireless formed from the carcasses of BAM, GTE, Primeco and a few others).

This was also around the time that they cut down the components section from around 24' of wall space to either one 4' cabinet or 2 4' cabinets, depending on historical sales of components.

/ worked there in college
// worst job ever. Haven't set foot in one since I ragequit over being cheated out of some overtime
/// did spin the experience into a 12 year career with Verizon (fark those guys too)
 
2013-12-02 06:51:09 PM

sentex: They must make a killing selling off the user databases.   No other way to explain how RS lives.


Same as Sears and K-Mart.  They must exist strictly to heat the atmosphere with store lights.
 
2013-12-02 06:56:51 PM
'American family association'? Isn't that the place full of potential pedo's with fax machines? Dude, like, pretends to be a woman online. Might wear a dress in the comfort of his own trailer-home?

/Radioshack is such a disappointment for getting stuff to play with.
//Use this box with all sorts of bits and build you own radio or blinking light or

i.imgur.com
 
2013-12-02 07:00:23 PM

Towermonkey: sentex: They must make a killing selling off the user databases.   No other way to explain how RS lives.

Welp, back in the early days of DSS satellite (ie DirecTv and what was then called Primestar), the Radio Crack profit margin was largely off of residuals from selling a satellite contract. As in, you paid I think $50 for a single box and a dish, got free basic installation from a RS contractor, paid DirecTV around $80 a month. RS got a flat commission for selling the equipment, around $450. They also got, in perpetuity, a percentage of the bill you paid DirecTV every month. The deal was similar with Cingular, and Bell Atlantic Mobile, and GTE Wireless (this was in my college days, before Verizon Wireless formed from the carcasses of BAM, GTE, Primeco and a few others).

This was also around the time that they cut down the components section from around 24' of wall space to either one 4' cabinet or 2 4' cabinets, depending on historical sales of components.

/ worked there in college
// worst job ever. Haven't set foot in one since I ragequit over being cheated out of some overtime
/// did spin the experience into a 12 year career with Verizon (fark those guys too)


My father worked for Radio Crack between 1980 and 1994. He disliked most of the job but he always had the craziest gadgets to play with.
 
2013-12-02 07:01:39 PM

Towermonkey: sentex: They must make a killing selling off the user databases.   No other way to explain how RS lives.

Welp, back in the early days of DSS satellite (ie DirecTv and what was then called Primestar), the Radio Crack profit margin was largely off of residuals from selling a satellite contract. As in, you paid I think $50 for a single box and a dish, got free basic installation from a RS contractor, paid DirecTV around $80 a month. RS got a flat commission for selling the equipment, around $450. They also got, in perpetuity, a percentage of the bill you paid DirecTV every month. The deal was similar with Cingular, and Bell Atlantic Mobile, and GTE Wireless (this was in my college days, before Verizon Wireless formed from the carcasses of BAM, GTE, Primeco and a few others).

This was also around the time that they cut down the components section from around 24' of wall space to either one 4' cabinet or 2 4' cabinets, depending on historical sales of components.

/ worked there in college
// worst job ever. Haven't set foot in one since I ragequit over being cheated out of some overtime
/// did spin the experience into a 12 year career with Verizon (fark those guys too)



So drugs then.
 
2013-12-02 07:02:27 PM
it turns out that Amazon is in the top-tranch of pro-"Christmas" retailers

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Matthew Yglesias is Slate's business and economics correspondent

Sigh.
 
2013-12-02 07:06:14 PM
Keep the Krampus in Christmas. He is truly the reason for the season.
 
2013-12-02 07:07:34 PM
img.fark.net
 
2013-12-02 07:11:51 PM
this is rather simple, if the majority of your customers in the month of december are buying Christmas gifts it would then be wise to use the word in your advertising.  Cater to your customers is always a sound business practice.
 
2013-12-02 07:17:21 PM

impaler: FTFA: Go to www.radioshack.com and type "Christmas" in the search bar. As of today, the website brings up zero results.

The American Family Association outrage is once again missplaced: Radio Shack's search does return results for Christmas

However, a search for "traditional marriage," found 0 items. What's up with that? Why is Radio Shack launching a proverbial pincer movement on the flanks of traditional marriage?

They won't even sell male and female plugs together.

[thumbs3.ebaystatic.com image 225x169]
Sample of Radio Shack's Homosexual Friendly Packaging Policy


They also think you can question your creator-given gender:

galleryplus.ebayimg.com
 
2013-12-02 07:18:36 PM

Phil McKraken: Towermonkey: sentex: They must make a killing selling off the user databases.   No other way to explain how RS lives.

Welp, back in the early days of DSS satellite (ie DirecTv and what was then called Primestar), the Radio Crack profit margin was largely off of residuals from selling a satellite contract. As in, you paid I think $50 for a single box and a dish, got free basic installation from a RS contractor, paid DirecTV around $80 a month. RS got a flat commission for selling the equipment, around $450. They also got, in perpetuity, a percentage of the bill you paid DirecTV every month. The deal was similar with Cingular, and Bell Atlantic Mobile, and GTE Wireless (this was in my college days, before Verizon Wireless formed from the carcasses of BAM, GTE, Primeco and a few others).

This was also around the time that they cut down the components section from around 24' of wall space to either one 4' cabinet or 2 4' cabinets, depending on historical sales of components.

/ worked there in college
// worst job ever. Haven't set foot in one since I ragequit over being cheated out of some overtime
/// did spin the experience into a 12 year career with Verizon (fark those guys too)

My father worked for Radio Crack between 1980 and 1994. He disliked most of the job but he always had the craziest gadgets to play with.


Some of the toys were neat. I bought a bunch of the high end RC cars and hopped them up with better motors and servos. Resold a few later on and made a small profit. When I was a boy my parents bought a lot of the Heathkit style projects and I enjoyed those, along with the electronic-experiment boxes with all the jumper wires and spring connectors. I saw they were selling the Arduino kits a while back but I got them cheaper off Amazon.
 
2013-12-02 07:18:58 PM

Waldo Pepper: this is rather simple, if the majority of your customers in the month of december are buying Christmas gifts it would then be wise to use the word in your advertising.  Cater to your customers is always a sound business practice.


Most people are sane and don't care when you wish them a happy holidays,  The ones that do are hilarious and its actually an incentive for the retail workers to say happy holidays vs marry Christmas.  There is no downside to it.  Either they wish you the same and go on their way or they go berserk and its entertainment for everyone there.
 
2013-12-02 07:20:42 PM
i'm pagan and i'd really like my yule holiday season back, thanks.  it'll take me a while to scrub the Jesus out of it and I'd like to get started early.
 
2013-12-02 07:20:47 PM

propasaurus: Oh good, it's "War on Christmas" time! Time to whip this out:
[imageshack.com image 480x640]

I snapped this picture while working on the Fox lot.


Fox Studios ≠ Fox News.
 
2013-12-02 07:21:25 PM

sentex: Towermonkey: sentex: They must make a killing selling off the user databases.   No other way to explain how RS lives.

Welp, back in the early days of DSS satellite (ie DirecTv and what was then called Primestar), the Radio Crack profit margin was largely off of residuals from selling a satellite contract. As in, you paid I think $50 for a single box and a dish, got free basic installation from a RS contractor, paid DirecTV around $80 a month. RS got a flat commission for selling the equipment, around $450. They also got, in perpetuity, a percentage of the bill you paid DirecTV every month. The deal was similar with Cingular, and Bell Atlantic Mobile, and GTE Wireless (this was in my college days, before Verizon Wireless formed from the carcasses of BAM, GTE, Primeco and a few others).

This was also around the time that they cut down the components section from around 24' of wall space to either one 4' cabinet or 2 4' cabinets, depending on historical sales of components.

/ worked there in college
// worst job ever. Haven't set foot in one since I ragequit over being cheated out of some overtime
/// did spin the experience into a 12 year career with Verizon (fark those guys too)


So drugs then.


Wouldn't surprise me. I do remember the CEO a few years back was forced to resign after it was discovered he'd falsified his CV. Dude was a giant cock, he deserved it.

I did take great pleasure in wet-palming him at the annual sales conference. Ran into him while I was walking out of the restroom and he insisted on shaking my hand... heh.
 
2013-12-02 07:22:10 PM

Waldo Pepper: this is rather simple, if the majority of your customers in the month of december are buying Christmas gifts it would then be wise to use the word in your advertising.  Cater to your customers is always a sound business practice.


because nothing is more amusing to a pagan than watching christians get upset over someone taking the 'christ' out of 'christmas'.
 
2013-12-02 07:26:55 PM

Warlordtrooper: Waldo Pepper: this is rather simple, if the majority of your customers in the month of december are buying Christmas gifts it would then be wise to use the word in your advertising.  Cater to your customers is always a sound business practice.

Most people are sane and don't care when you wish them a happy holidays,  The ones that do are hilarious and its actually an incentive for the retail workers to say happy holidays vs marry Christmas.  There is no downside to it.  Either they wish you the same and go on their way or they go berserk and its entertainment for everyone there.


in 25 years of retail i've never had anyone lash out at me for saying Merry Christmas, if they respond back with "happy holidays" i think wish them "happy holidays" back which usually gets a smile from them for my sort of taking back the merry christmas.

My point was you do your best to meet your customer needs and desires.  If you are in an urban area it might be wise to have a black history month display (bookstore, video stores) in a rural area Harvest season is big.

Again catering to your customer base and catering to bring in new customers is usually sound business.
 
2013-12-02 07:31:04 PM

Nabb1: Man, I haven't been to a Radio Shack in years. I can't believe they are still around.


The only reason anyone ever goes into one is there stuck at strip mall & their mom/wife/gf are in a boring store. So you're like "Hey an electronics place!" Then you get 1 foot in the door and you remember how bad they suck. 
shiat no one wants
shiat you need in a brand you hate.
Expensive batteries,
a spinny light thingy that's left over from a Spencer's Gifts,
dusty shiat that still has a Howie Long ad next to it,
overpriced  cell phone plans,
and a farking Tandy Robot in a pear tree.
 
2013-12-02 07:31:18 PM
Oh, and I forgot about the deal RS made with Microsoft around the turn of the century, you'd sign up for I think 3 years of MSN service (!) at the Crack and in return you got $400 in store credit. It was quite the trainwreck because sometimes the sales monkeys didn't qualify the customer properly, and they'd be stuck with three years of interwebs service that they couldn't use and couldn't cancel without a termination fee of some sort.

The drawback was, MSFT couldn't recoup the commission they paid RS, which RS then paid to the sales monkeys. I guess it hurt MSFT more than RS, but it was still an awful program to administer. Lots of red tape even with a properly vetted and qualified customer.

Also, the commissions and spiffs paid by the local Sprint affiliate (Gulf Coast Wireless, in my case) were unable to be recouped if the customer didn't fulfill their contract. A lot of less-than-reputable sales reps figured this out early on and would pile a ton of phones onto a customer with good credit, make a pile of commissions off of it, and then if the customer let it all get shut off and never paid the bill, oh well. I mean, the industry wasnt exactly any better than used car sales, but i thought it went waaaay too far with little or no repercussions.
 
2013-12-02 07:35:59 PM

Waldo Pepper: this is rather simple, if the majority of your customers in the month of december are buying Christmas gifts it would then be wise to use the word in your advertising.  Cater to your customers is always a sound business practice.


Let x equal the number of customers lost by making everything "holiday"-centric.

Let y equal the number of customers lost by making everything "Christmas"-centric.

I'm guessing that RS's marketing department figured that y is greater than x.


/Either way, the number is small and only douchbags will care how their sale is titled.
 
2013-12-02 07:36:27 PM

COMALite J: propasaurus: Oh good, it's "War on Christmas" time! Time to whip this out:
[imageshack.com image 480x640]

I snapped this picture while working on the Fox lot.

Fox Studios ≠ Fox News.


Sure, sure. Not owned by News Corp at all.
BTW, when does the boycott of Fox Studios start?
 
2013-12-02 07:41:36 PM

Gecko Gingrich: Waldo Pepper: this is rather simple, if the majority of your customers in the month of december are buying Christmas gifts it would then be wise to use the word in your advertising.  Cater to your customers is always a sound business practice.

Let x equal the number of customers lost by making everything "holiday"-centric.

Let y equal the number of customers lost by making everything "Christmas"-centric.

I'm guessing that RS's marketing department figured that y is greater than x.


/Either way, the number is small and only douchbags will care how their sale is titled.


and that is why a company like Radio shack is failing they look at numbers and forget about the people behind the number.  

you know I might not realize for a couple of years if a company doesn't use Christmas in their ads as I generally don't pay attention to ads but in truth once it is none and I hear that the company doesn't want to upset its customers by using the word Christmas in its advertising and yet they still want my christmas shopping money. I doubt i will return. 

catering is simple and cheap. This is radio shack a supposedly "American" company that profits from the Christmas holiday more so than any other holiday celebrated in the USA.
 
2013-12-02 07:54:39 PM
All of this still begs the unasked question: Who gives a flying fark what the AFA thinks or says?
 
2013-12-02 07:58:48 PM

Mad_Radhu: impaler: FTFA: Go to www.radioshack.com and type "Christmas" in the search bar. As of today, the website brings up zero results.

The American Family Association outrage is once again missplaced: Radio Shack's search does return results for Christmas

However, a search for "traditional marriage," found 0 items. What's up with that? Why is Radio Shack launching a proverbial pincer movement on the flanks of traditional marriage?

They won't even sell male and female plugs together.

[thumbs3.ebaystatic.com image 225x169]
Sample of Radio Shack's Homosexual Friendly Packaging Policy

They also think you can question your creator-given gender:

[galleryplus.ebayimg.com image 500x355]


Sacrilege!
 
2013-12-02 08:00:38 PM

bionicjoe: Nabb1: Man, I haven't been to a Radio Shack in years. I can't believe they are still around.

The only reason anyone ever goes into one is there stuck at strip mall & their mom/wife/gf are in a boring store. So you're like "Hey an electronics place!" Then you get 1 foot in the door and you remember how bad they suck. 
shiat no one wants
shiat you need in a brand you hate.
Expensive batteries,
a spinny light thingy that's left over from a Spencer's Gifts,
dusty shiat that still has a Howie Long ad next to it,
overpriced  cell phone plans,
and a farking Tandy Robot in a pear tree.


I'm fairly sure they remain in business because they are a front for a massive mafia money laundering operation.
 
2013-12-02 08:30:36 PM
Oh, FFS
 
2013-12-02 08:54:30 PM
So Christmas isn't commercialized enough to suit them huh.
 
2013-12-02 08:56:37 PM
Whatever. Call me when they actually stop having holiday sales.
 
2013-12-02 09:14:41 PM
I stop in every now and then, now that they have Arduino stuff and are at least nodding towards the maker community. I haven't been asked for phone number or address in, hm, maybe a decade? So it's okay to let the meme go.
 
2013-12-02 09:36:22 PM
Who the hell shops at Radio Shack?
 
2013-12-02 09:47:52 PM
I typed in Christmas and found
Cricut™ Quilted Christmas Cartridge
 
2013-12-02 09:56:49 PM
Well I give the American Family Association a grade F on my own personal scale for recognizing Kwanza. It's totally legit because I can put a nice border around the chart.
 
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