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(NJ.com)   Gun company get$ million$ in free $uperbowl adverti$ing   (nj.com) divider line 72
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2013-12-02 02:42:49 PM
Controversy is just a funny way to spell free advertising.
 
2013-12-02 03:11:31 PM
I'm gonna LIVE, LIVE, LIVE, LIVE...TIL I DIIIIIIEEEEEEEE!!!!!
 
2013-12-02 04:05:53 PM
Pretty much.
 
2013-12-02 05:15:06 PM
Starring Jovan Belcher?
 
2013-12-02 05:23:46 PM
I don't honestly remember ever seeing a gun commercial on national TV. I see them only sporadically on my local PA station.
 
2013-12-02 05:25:24 PM
This is an outrage!  Why is the NFL and Goodell trying to undo the 2nd and 1st Amendments in one fell swoop?
 
2013-12-02 05:28:10 PM
www.eaazi.org

What could go wrong?
 
2013-12-02 05:29:13 PM
 
2013-12-02 05:31:50 PM
As a Daniel, I am getting a kick..wait no actually I am not.

You don't need a gun dumbass.

Keeping a gun at home makes you safer.
Fact-check: Owning a gun has been linked to higher risks of homicide, suicide, and accidental death by gun.
• For every time a gun is used in self-defense in the home, there are 7 assaults or murders, 11 suicide attempts, and 4 accidents involving guns in or around a home.
• 43% of homes with guns and kids have at least one unlocked firearm.
• In one experiment, one third of 8-to-12-year-old boys who found a handgun pulled the trigger.

Carrying a gun for self-defense makes you safer.
Fact-check: In 2011, nearly 10 times more people were shot and killed in arguments than by civilians trying to stop a crime.
• In one survey, nearly 1% of Americans reported using guns to defend themselves or their property. However, a closer look at their claims found that more than 50% involved using guns in an aggressive manner, such as escalating an argument.
• A Philadelphia study found that the odds of an assault victim being shot were 4.5 times greater if he carried a gun. His odds of being killed were 4.2 times greater.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/01/pro-gun-myths-fact-check

This really shouldnt be in the sports tab
 
2013-12-02 05:33:55 PM
So the plan now is to create a commercial in violation of private rules that you were previously aware of and scream 1st amendment when a private company won't bend to your will?

It's too bad.  I'm sure the household name "Daniel Defense" has the cash on hand to pay for a 1 minute SB commercial.
 
2013-12-02 05:36:09 PM
Be sure not to miss the intelligent and well thought out comments section.
 
2013-12-02 05:36:50 PM

Rapmaster2000: It's too bad. I'm sure the household name "Daniel Defense" has the cash on hand to pay for a 1 minute SB commercial.


They may not have before, but I'm guessing they'll have enough cash to buy all the super bowl ads in about 5 seconds.
 
2013-12-02 05:38:18 PM
Can we start a lottery on who gets to shoot Bruno Mars?
 
2013-12-02 05:43:43 PM

dookdookdook: Rapmaster2000: It's too bad. I'm sure the household name "Daniel Defense" has the cash on hand to pay for a 1 minute SB commercial.

They may not have before, but I'm guessing they'll have enough cash to buy all the super bowl ads in about 5 seconds.


That's a rather terrible guess.  Last year an ad cost $4M and total ad revenue was $240M.  I'd like to see how Daniel Defense is going to raise $240M when George Zimmerman only raised $314,000.
 
2013-12-02 05:47:17 PM

Rapmaster2000: So the plan now is to create a commercial in violation of private rules that you were previously aware of and scream 1st amendment when a private company won't bend to your will?

It's too bad.  I'm sure the household name "Daniel Defense" has the cash on hand to pay for a 1 minute SB commercial.


considering that the annual sales are roughly 30Million and an ad will cost about 10M ... so yeah they barely pay to produce the commercial
 
2013-12-02 05:50:17 PM
I wasn't even aware Daniel Defense made stuff worth advertising to people during the Super Bowl.

/seen a couple of their commercials.  Like Act of Valor, with 5% less douche.
 
2013-12-02 06:05:00 PM
Why advertise when the news reports will give details of real-life use of the product on small, elusive targets?
 
2013-12-02 06:11:17 PM

germ78: Starring Jovan Belcher?


Or Aaron Hernandez? Junior Seau? Sean Taylor? Steve McNair?

The possibilities are endless and poor taste knows no bounds.
 
2013-12-02 06:21:15 PM

insano: germ78: Starring Jovan Belcher?

Or Aaron Hernandez? Junior Seau? Sean Taylor? Steve McNair?

The possibilities are endless and poor taste knows no bounds.


But Budweiser and Coors and Patron and Jim Beam commercials are fine and dandy?  Maybe they can get Josh Brent and Jerry Brown Jr. to make an appearance in one of their commercials.

There is no logical reason for the commercials to be banned...
 
2013-12-02 06:31:14 PM

uncleacid: Can we start a lottery on who gets to shoot Bruno Mars?


Meh. I dislike his music, but when he was on Saturday Night Live as host, he was fairly amusing. He's bland and less offensive than most pop "stars" these days, I find.

/ adjusts belt-onion, goes out to yell at a cloud
// beginning to realize I'm old
 
2013-12-02 06:50:03 PM
Piizzadude:

This really shouldnt be in the sports tab

/QBFT
 
2013-12-02 06:52:45 PM

chevydeuce: insano: germ78: Starring Jovan Belcher?

Or Aaron Hernandez? Junior Seau? Sean Taylor? Steve McNair?

The possibilities are endless and poor taste knows no bounds.

But Budweiser and Coors and Patron and Jim Beam commercials are fine and dandy?  Maybe they can get Josh Brent and Jerry Brown Jr. to make an appearance in one of their commercials.

There is no logical reason for the commercials to be banned...


While your point is well taken, I can't remember any players who died recently of alcohol overdose or killed someone while drunk driving. I'm sure they exist. The point is that gun violence's association with the NFL is still fresh in everyone's mind, so I can see why the NFL wants to distance itself from any mention of guns.
 
2013-12-02 06:54:04 PM

chevydeuce: insano: germ78: Starring Jovan Belcher?

Or Aaron Hernandez? Junior Seau? Sean Taylor? Steve McNair?

The possibilities are endless and poor taste knows no bounds.

But Budweiser and Coors and Patron and Jim Beam commercials are fine and dandy?  Maybe they can get Josh Brent and Jerry Brown Jr. to make an appearance in one of their commercials.

There is no logical reason for the commercials to be banned...


This.  More people are going to die from incidents related to the alcohol that is advertised than all the weapons Daniel Defense produces for the existence of the company.
 
2013-12-02 06:56:34 PM
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2013-12-02 06:57:15 PM

insano: chevydeuce: insano: germ78: Starring Jovan Belcher?

Or Aaron Hernandez? Junior Seau? Sean Taylor? Steve McNair?

The possibilities are endless and poor taste knows no bounds.

But Budweiser and Coors and Patron and Jim Beam commercials are fine and dandy?  Maybe they can get Josh Brent and Jerry Brown Jr. to make an appearance in one of their commercials.

There is no logical reason for the commercials to be banned...

While your point is well taken, I can't remember any players who died recently of alcohol overdose or killed someone while drunk driving. I'm sure they exist. The point is that gun violence's association with the NFL is still fresh in everyone's mind, so I can see why the NFL wants to distance itself from any mention of guns.


Josh Brent killed a teammate while driving drunk only about a year ago.
 
2013-12-02 06:57:28 PM

Piizzadude: Rapmaster2000: So the plan now is to create a commercial in violation of private rules that you were previously aware of and scream 1st amendment when a private company won't bend to your will?

It's too bad.  I'm sure the household name "Daniel Defense" has the cash on hand to pay for a 1 minute SB commercial.

considering that the annual sales are roughly 30Million and an ad will cost about 10M ... so yeah they barely pay to produce the commercial


I wouldn't be surprised if their 2013 sales are 3-4x that number.  It has been a banner year for companies that make anything AR-15 related.
 
2013-12-02 06:57:43 PM
Can we agree to leave guns alone and make gay marriage legal?
 
2013-12-02 07:05:59 PM

insano: chevydeuce: insano: germ78: Starring Jovan Belcher?

Or Aaron Hernandez? Junior Seau? Sean Taylor? Steve McNair?

The possibilities are endless and poor taste knows no bounds.

But Budweiser and Coors and Patron and Jim Beam commercials are fine and dandy?  Maybe they can get Josh Brent and Jerry Brown Jr. to make an appearance in one of their commercials.

There is no logical reason for the commercials to be banned...

While your point is well taken, I can't remember any players who died recently of alcohol overdose or killed someone while drunk driving. I'm sure they exist. The point is that gun violence's association with the NFL is still fresh in everyone's mind, so I can see why the NFL wants to distance itself from any mention of guns.


Josh Brent drove drunk, killed a fellow player:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/10/nfl-drunk-driving-cowboys-j os h-brent_n_2273727.html

Dante Stallworth drove drunk, killed someone:
http://www.promises.com/articles/drunk-driving/nfl-player-stallworth -s entenced-for-drunk-driving-death/

Just the two that popped to mind.
 
2013-12-02 07:07:38 PM
Hey; "I don't care what the newspapers say about me as long as they spell my name right." ... Daniel Defense!

Besides; the VeeP "Shotgun" Joe Biden approves!

Besides censorship is for those terrible school boards when they try to put down the man by burning books like "Of Mice and Men", "The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, " and "The Call of the Wild." There is no place in 21st Century America for Political Censorship...
 
wee [TotalFark]
2013-12-02 07:11:05 PM

Piizzadude: You don't need a gun dumbass.


As a victim of a home invasion (which was ended by the friendly application of a firearm) I'm getting a kick, etc.

Sometimes you do need a gun.  And when you do need it, you really need it.
 
2013-12-02 07:12:14 PM

Snaps: Piizzadude: Rapmaster2000: So the plan now is to create a commercial in violation of private rules that you were previously aware of and scream 1st amendment when a private company won't bend to your will?

It's too bad.  I'm sure the household name "Daniel Defense" has the cash on hand to pay for a 1 minute SB commercial.

considering that the annual sales are roughly 30Million and an ad will cost about 10M ... so yeah they barely pay to produce the commercial

I wouldn't be surprised if their 2013 sales are 3-4x that number.  It has been a banner year for companies that make anything AR-15 related.


Even if they had 120M in revenue, their profit would likely be entirely consumed by the commercial.

That's assuming that they quadrupled their production capacity in one year.  With the debt incurred needed to do that, they wouldn't be profitable at all this year.

So, I would be absolutely shocked if they quadrupled revenue.  For something like software with a low production cost it's doable to quadruple production.  For a manufacturer, it is all but impossible.
 
2013-12-02 07:12:41 PM
Looks like the NFL needs to be added to the LOPCATGOPATA
 
2013-12-02 07:14:32 PM

wee: Piizzadude: You don't need a gun dumbass.

As a victim of a home invasion (which was ended by the friendly application of a firearm) I'm getting a kick, etc.

Sometimes you do need a gun.  And when you do need it, you really need it.


You know on here that means you should have called the cops. They would save you.
 
2013-12-02 07:14:43 PM

Piizzadude: This really shouldnt be in the sports tab


Also this.
 
2013-12-02 07:22:40 PM
Censorship? Is the NFL a public institution, one obliged to run ads? Or are we going with a "restraint of interstate trade" argument?
 
2013-12-02 07:24:56 PM

Piizzadude: You don't need a gun dumbass.


That's not any of your business. As long as I pass Uncle Sugar's background check it ceases being their business, too.
 
2013-12-02 07:30:14 PM

Adolf Oliver Nipples: Piizzadude: You don't need a gun dumbass.

That's not any of your business. As long as I pass Uncle Sugar's background check it ceases being their business, too.


TEABAGGER!!!!

or maybe you believe people have rights......
 
2013-12-02 07:30:36 PM

globalwarmingpraiser: wee: Piizzadude: You don't need a gun dumbass.

As a victim of a home invasion (which was ended by the friendly application of a firearm) I'm getting a kick, etc.

Sometimes you do need a gun.  And when you do need it, you really need it.

You know on here that means you should have called the cops. They would save you.


Or they would beat you senseless and kill your dogs.  One or the other.
 
2013-12-02 07:50:45 PM

wee: Piizzadude: You don't need a gun dumbass.

As a victim of a home invasion (which was ended by the friendly application of a firearm) I'm getting a kick, etc.

Sometimes you do need a gun.  And when you do need it, you really need it.


No you do as I did and beat their asses and disarm them.
 
2013-12-02 07:54:10 PM

Adolf Oliver Nipples: Piizzadude: You don't need a gun dumbass.

That's not any of your business. As long as I pass Uncle Sugar's background check it ceases being their business, too.


Honestly I have no problem with gun ownership. I have a problem with other types of weapons/100 round magazines.

I also think that, and I may be misinterpreting you, licenses that need to be updated yearly are in order.
 
2013-12-02 07:57:07 PM

Piizzadude: No you do as I did and beat their asses and disarm them.


Because that works so well for 120 lb women.
 
2013-12-02 08:00:37 PM

Piizzadude: licenses that need to be updated yearly are in order.


If you want to make it manditory to have a license to vote or speak, I'll think about acquiecsing to mandating a license to own a firearm.

Acually, no I won't.
 
2013-12-02 08:00:46 PM
Who cares about the fall out?  I'm just glad I don't have to explain that shiat to my son.  Now if they could just quit it with the farking boner pills, I'd be great.
 
2013-12-02 08:25:46 PM
I can't even remember seeing a gun commercial of any kind on tv.
 
2013-12-02 08:28:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvzAt9Yx7s8

I was initially surprised that Daniel Defense is in a position to afford a SB ad, especially when the time slot for a :60 costs somewhere around 8 million bucks on Fox this year.

Then you take into account that more AR-15s have been sold this year than in any other. They also sell parts. Oh, and they also serve government contracts. Then it's a no-brainer that they can afford it.

With enough guns to arm every person in this country and near half of the households in our country containing at least one gun, it's a mammoth business.

Like it or not people, the guns aren't going anywhere and none of you who want them gone are going to be volunteering to go get them.
 
2013-12-02 08:38:35 PM

Piizzadude: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Piizzadude: You don't need a gun dumbass.

That's not any of your business. As long as I pass Uncle Sugar's background check it ceases being their business, too.

Honestly I have no problem with gun ownership. I have a problem with other types of weapons/100 round magazines.

I also think that, and I may be misinterpreting you, licenses that need to be updated yearly are in order.


I just went out today and shot my AR15 type rifle with 2 25 round magazines. I'll have to agree with you, they were a PITA to load at the range and I'll be buying smaller in the future. Just for convenience at the range. The 30's stay in the gun for social purposes and I don't give a good god damn what your little pee pee has a problem with.

My license is the Bill of Rights, my imperative as a rational human is to protect myself and my loved ones, and God. I don't live in New York or any other hell hole. I don't need an unfriendly bureaucrat's permission to bare arms. Look in the mirror, I think you've got authoritarian boot polish on your tongue.
 
2013-12-02 09:04:59 PM
Can we get a ban on gratuitous use of the word ban?  One network not airing ads for a particular company or sector is not a ban.  One channel not playing a music video is not a ban.

I don't like brussels sprouts, don't eat 'em, don't buy 'em, they've never been served from my kitchen. But since this doesn't affect anyone else or any other kitchen, it's not a ban.  One sporting event making a statement on which ads they will or won't air is not a ban.
 
2013-12-02 09:10:59 PM

smells_like_meat: Piizzadude: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Piizzadude: You don't need a gun dumbass.

That's not any of your business. As long as I pass Uncle Sugar's background check it ceases being their business, too.

Honestly I have no problem with gun ownership. I have a problem with other types of weapons/100 round magazines.

I also think that, and I may be misinterpreting you, licenses that need to be updated yearly are in order.

I just went out today and shot my AR15 type rifle with 2 25 round magazines. I'll have to agree with you, they were a PITA to load at the range and I'll be buying smaller in the future. Just for convenience at the range. The 30's stay in the gun for social purposes and I don't give a good god damn what your little pee pee has a problem with.

My license is the Bill of Rights, my imperative as a rational human is to protect myself and my loved ones, and God. I don't live in New York or any other hell hole. I don't need an unfriendly bureaucrat's permission to bare arms. Look in the mirror, I think you've got authoritarian boot polish on your tongue.


In a defensive use, you will not be laying down high volume suppressive fire, nor engaging targets 300 yards away. .223/5.56mm is way too good at blowing through sheetrock and cheap T111 siding. Retire the AR15 and buy an 18" barrel pump action or semi-auto shotgun, or a .45 automatic pistol.
 
2013-12-02 09:33:42 PM
Hey if I were the NFL I'd want to keep guns out of my thug member's hands too!
 
2013-12-02 09:45:42 PM
forgotmydamnusername:
In a defensive use, you will not be laying down high volume suppressive fire, nor engaging targets 300 yards away. .223/5.56mm is way too good at blowing through sheetrock and cheap T111 siding. Retire the AR15 and buy an 18" barrel pump action or semi-auto shotgun, or a .45 automatic pistol.
Dumbest thing I've ever read.

The FBI and DHS use the .223/5.56 in close-quarters specifically because it's prone to breaking up easily against really hard surfaces, like walls. It's an good round for preventing collateral damage.
A shotgun slug will go right through a wall... and keep going. So will buckshot. A .45??? Even a hollow-point may over penetrate.

The AR-15 allows one to easily put rounds easily in the same place over and over again because of the light recoil. Remember, it's still a .22 caliber projectile. They're tiny and traveling very fast.

Do some learning please:
http://how-i-did-it.org/drywall/ammunition.html
http://www.olyarms.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=15&I t emid=26">http://www.olyarms.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=vie w&id=15&It emid=26
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uT4BeswoQ0I">http://www.youtube.com/w atch?v=uT4BeswoQ0I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C29mEJFFIvo
 
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