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(Talking Points Memo)   National Republican Senatorial Committee quietly abandons protest against Obama closing the Vatican embassy, mainly because it isn't true   (talkingpointsmemo.com ) divider line
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2013-12-02 12:41:17 PM  
republicans lying? i'm shocked!
 
2013-12-02 12:45:01 PM  
A CNN fact check labeled the NRSC's claim "misleading"

Liberal media
 
2013-12-02 12:48:46 PM  
Because they've actually moved closer to the Vatican?
 
2013-12-02 12:57:54 PM  

FlashHarry: republicans lying? i'm shocked!


Must be a day of the year.
 
2013-12-02 01:08:11 PM  
When has something not being true stopped them before?
 
2013-12-02 01:10:22 PM  

mrshowrules: When has something not being true stopped them before?


Yeah, this rings false. Overwhelming evidence that they're wrong is supposed to make them MORE sure they're right
 
2013-12-02 01:14:59 PM  
QUITTERS!
 
2013-12-02 01:21:56 PM  
Has Darrell Issa scheduled hearings on this SCANDAL yet? This could be Obama's Katrina.
 
2013-12-02 01:24:21 PM  
Another successful protest, way to go republicans.
 
2013-12-02 01:30:46 PM  
Can we start a political version of the Delhomme Rating?  At this point, I'd guess that the GOP brass is at a rating of oh...about -100.
 
2013-12-02 01:33:23 PM  
While this may not be true, the rumors of Obama stampeding cattle through the Vatican are accurate.
 
2013-12-02 01:38:55 PM  

grokca: Another successful protest, way to go republicans.


It actually has been. The claim was made, and there was a stink made, and folks got hett up about it. It doesn't have to be true to accomplish their goals: it is out there, and a retraction doesn't make the rounds as much as the original story. The folks that they wanted to reach have been: low information voters, who want to be angry. The story served its purpose. It keeps the narrative rolling.
 
2013-12-02 01:39:33 PM  

FlashHarry: republicans lying? i'm shocked!


What shocks me is that they are backing down on the lie.  Usually getting caught usually means repeating ie even more often to drown out the info about they lying.
 
2013-12-02 01:41:40 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Can we start a political version of the Delhomme Rating?  At this point, I'd guess that the GOP brass is at a rating of oh...about -100.


NRSC 16.7 - FUM
 
2013-12-02 01:41:52 PM  

bmongar: FlashHarry: republicans lying? i'm shocked!

What shocks me is that they are backing down on the lie.  Usually getting caught usually means repeating ie even more often to drown out the info about they lying.


They only reason they are backing down on the lie is that they have also changed their opinion on the Pope a bit so even the narrative of the lie doesn't work for them.

How factual something is the last consideration they think about.
 
2013-12-02 01:42:08 PM  

hubiestubert: grokca: Another successful protest, way to go republicans.

It actually has been. The claim was made, and there was a stink made, and folks got hett up about it. It doesn't have to be true to accomplish their goals: it is out there, and a retraction doesn't make the rounds as much as the original story. The folks that they wanted to reach have been: low information voters, who want to be angry. The story served its purpose. It keeps the narrative rolling.


Just one more thing I have to add to my "No. That's not true." list. It really does build up.
 
2013-12-02 01:43:38 PM  

BunkoSquad: mrshowrules: When has something not being true stopped them before?

Yeah, this rings false. Overwhelming evidence that they're wrong is supposed to make them MORE sure they're right


It's because it's regarding Catholics.  The dominionist fundies that make up the GOP these days barely tolerate them as it is, so a lot of them probably were saying "Good riddance".
 
2013-12-02 01:44:30 PM  

mrshowrules: bmongar: FlashHarry: republicans lying? i'm shocked!

What shocks me is that they are backing down on the lie.  Usually getting caught usually means repeating ie even more often to drown out the info about they lying.

They only reason they are backing down on the lie is that they have also changed their opinion on the Pope a bit so even the narrative of the lie doesn't work for them.

How factual something is the last consideration they think about.


They have to scrub the story because it conflicts with the one they want to run about Obama and Pope Frankie redistributing your wealth to the poors next week.
 
2013-12-02 01:46:15 PM  
I thought Jeb Bush was supposed to be the smarter, thoughtful, sober-minded one.

The great thing about this, though, is that a significant number of Republicans will flat-out refuse to believe it's not true and will regard any "fact checking" as liberal lies.
 
2013-12-02 01:46:55 PM  
"The media is reporting that President Obama plans to close the U.S. Embassy to the Vatican," the page read.

Apparently, this counts as 'fact-checking' by politicians nowadays.
 
2013-12-02 01:47:05 PM  

hubiestubert: grokca: Another successful protest, way to go republicans.

It actually has been. The claim was made, and there was a stink made, and folks got hett up about it. It doesn't have to be true to accomplish their goals: it is out there, and a retraction doesn't make the rounds as much as the original story. The folks that they wanted to reach have been: low information voters, who want to be angry. The story served its purpose. It keeps the narrative rolling.


Yep.

The people this was supposed to reach got all riled up.  And they're never going to realize that they were lied to.

Mission accomplished.
 
2013-12-02 01:47:28 PM  
*scans headline*


paulomonteiro.files.wordpress.com

Silly Republicans. See what your ceaseless petulance has wrought.
 
2013-12-02 01:48:52 PM  

propasaurus: A CNN fact check labeled the NRSC's claim "misleading"

Liberal media


Do you dispute that he's planning to remove American personnel from the embassy at the Vatican and close our office in that building? See, the claim is true as long as you leave out the part of them being placed in a new building that is about to opening up.
 
2013-12-02 01:49:07 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Can we start a political version of the Delhomme Rating?  At this point, I'd guess that the GOP brass is at a rating of oh...about -100.

NRSC 16.7 - FUM


Nah, this was about on "butt fumble" level, so I'd drop that to no more than 5.5.  XD
 
2013-12-02 01:49:48 PM  
It's still real to Issa damn it!
 
2013-12-02 01:51:11 PM  

Grungehamster: propasaurus: A CNN fact check labeled the NRSC's claim "misleading"

Liberal media

Do you dispute that he's planning to remove American personnel from the embassy at the Vatican and close our office in that building? See, the claim is true as long as you leave out the part of them being placed in a new building that is about to opening up.


Still not true. He isn't closing the "embassy". He is closing a building. The "embassy" will remain open.

So "misleading" is misleading...
 
2013-12-02 01:53:19 PM  
farking lying subhuman scum
 
2013-12-02 01:53:29 PM  

propasaurus: A CNN fact check labeled the NRSC's claim "misleading"

Liberal media


Seriously.  A flat-out lie gets propagated by the GOP and Jeb Bush, and all we get is a "misleading."  That's farking outrageous.  Fark you CNN, you cocks.
 
2013-12-02 01:53:50 PM  
Vaticahnzeegate,
 
2013-12-02 01:56:46 PM  

mediablitz: It's still real to Issa damn it!


Issa is still insisting on interviewing the guy who has been proven to lied about being at the Benghazi embassy.
 
2013-12-02 01:56:47 PM  

mediablitz: Grungehamster: propasaurus: A CNN fact check labeled the NRSC's claim "misleading"

Liberal media

Do you dispute that he's planning to remove American personnel from the embassy at the Vatican and close our office in that building? See, the claim is true as long as you leave out the part of them being placed in a new building that is about to opening up.

Still not true. He isn't closing the "embassy". He is closing a building. The "embassy" will remain open.

So "misleading" is misleading...


This really falls apart at the "HE" is planning.

Since it turns out that this initiative was started several years ago before HE was president.

So more time machine I guess.
 
2013-12-02 01:57:21 PM  
It doesn't matter; the "damage" has been done.  This nugget has been inserted into the RW media bubble and will bounce around forever.

BS comes into the bubble and facts filtered out.
 
2013-12-02 01:57:50 PM  

bmongar: FlashHarry: republicans lying? i'm shocked!

What shocks me is that they are backing down on the lie.  Usually getting caught usually means repeating ie even more often to drown out the info about they lying.


I agree. Normally, Republicans double down when they're proven wrong, just to...prove they won't back down, I guess. The more wrong they are, the more loudly they scream about a 'scandal'.
 
2013-12-02 01:58:56 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: cameroncrazy1984: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Can we start a political version of the Delhomme Rating?  At this point, I'd guess that the GOP brass is at a rating of oh...about -100.

NRSC 16.7 - FUM

Nah, this was about on "butt fumble" level, so I'd drop that to no more than 5.5.  XD


Oh, no. Let's not marginalize the buttfumble like that. That was a truly awesome feat. I would equate the buttfumble to something like Romney's 47% comments.
 
2013-12-02 01:59:06 PM  
Not that I think this qualifies, but has Politifact released its Lie of the Year?

If not, place any bets?

My guess, "If you like your insurance, you can keep it".

Don't get me wrong, it was misleading at worst, not intentionally deceptive, but Politifact tends to go back and forth from year to year.  Last year it was the Jeep ad by Romney, the year before was a non-lie by Obama and I forget what it was.
 
2013-12-02 01:59:14 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: While this may not be true, the rumors of Obama stampeding cattle through the Vatican are accurate.


Kinky....  Sign here
 
2013-12-02 01:59:18 PM  

mrshowrules: bmongar: FlashHarry: republicans lying? i'm shocked!

What shocks me is that they are backing down on the lie.  Usually getting caught usually means repeating ie even more often to drown out the info about they lying.

They only reason they are backing down on the lie is that they have also changed their opinion on the Pope a bit so even the narrative of the lie doesn't work for them.

How factual something is the last consideration they think about.


I loved Stuart Varney claiming "I go to church to save my soul. It's got nothing to do with my vote. Pope Francis has linked the two." Yes, how dare Francis attach a moral judgment to certain political beliefs (in this case, claiming that unbridled capitalism is the idolatry of money), and as such try to use the pulpit to try to influence voting behavior. Can anyone find any juicy quotes from him encouraging denying the sacraments to pro-choice politicians? I know he's usually just a money guy, but I certainly wouldn't be surprised to find something like that out there.
 
2013-12-02 02:00:37 PM  

hubiestubert: grokca: Another successful protest, way to go republicans.

It actually has been. The claim was made, and there was a stink made, and folks got hett up about it. It doesn't have to be true to accomplish their goals: it is out there, and a retraction doesn't make the rounds as much as the original story. The folks that they wanted to reach have been: low information voters, who want to be angry. The story served its purpose. It keeps the narrative rolling.


Plus it  got the  "Limbaugh and Fox are pissed at the Pope" story out of theheadlines.
 
2013-12-02 02:00:59 PM  
I don't understand why the muslim in chief would offend our honored Catholics by this unprecedented breach of diplomacy.  Congress should impeach him and that Communist pope they got over in the Vatican.
 
2013-12-02 02:01:32 PM  

monoski: mediablitz: It's still real to Issa damn it!

Issa is still insisting on interviewing the guy who has been proven to lied about being at the Benghazi embassy.


And this surprises you somehow? Lindsey Grahm will probably try to hold up some appointments due to this, oh wait a minute they changed the rules on that.
 
2013-12-02 02:02:05 PM  

Bane of Broone: Grand_Moff_Joseph: cameroncrazy1984: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Can we start a political version of the Delhomme Rating?  At this point, I'd guess that the GOP brass is at a rating of oh...about -100.

NRSC 16.7 - FUM

Nah, this was about on "butt fumble" level, so I'd drop that to no more than 5.5.  XD

Oh, no. Let's not marginalize the buttfumble like that. That was a truly awesome feat. I would equate the buttfumble to something like Romney's 47% comments.


Good point there.  :)
 
2013-12-02 02:03:17 PM  

Muta: Plus it  got the  "Limbaugh and Fox are pissed at the Pope" story out of theheadlines.


Until one or the other says something stupid to bring it back into the spotlight...which, given their IQ levels, should be any second now.
 
2013-12-02 02:05:08 PM  

FlashHarry: republicans lying? i'm shocked!


s29.postimg.org
 
2013-12-02 02:05:36 PM  
But the embassy isn't actually closing. It's re-locating to a larger U.S. compound in Rome, a move that will save more than $1.4 million and bolster security.

So the NRSC not only called Obama out on this, but they got us a better deal. These guys are heroes.
 
2013-12-02 02:06:34 PM  
Wait I thought the Pope was a terrible Marxist.
 
2013-12-02 02:08:20 PM  

sdd2000: monoski: mediablitz: It's still real to Issa damn it!

Issa is still insisting on interviewing the guy who has been proven to lied about being at the Benghazi embassy.

And this surprises you somehow? Lindsey Grahm will probably try to hold up some appointments due to this, oh wait a minute they changed the rules on that.


Lindsay Grahm hand waived away the liar issue once it become unusable. He just said he "still wanted answers".

They have a base that they've convinced. It doesn't matter WHAT is said now. They will pretend scandal this forever. The FW:FW:FW:FW: die is cast...
 
2013-12-02 02:09:17 PM  

Fart_Machine: Wait I thought the Pope was a terrible Marxist.


No, he isn't a terrible Marxist, he is actually pretty good at it.
 
2013-12-02 02:09:30 PM  
It served its purpose - a new round of FWD:FWD:FWD: emails to fire up the base.
 
2013-12-02 02:10:24 PM  

Fart_Machine: Wait I thought the Pope was a terrible Marxist.


cognitive dissonance is the air conservatives breathe
 
2013-12-02 02:12:43 PM  

mrshowrules: When has something not being true stopped them before?

 
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