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(ESPN)   In a game containing more shanks than a prison bathroom, the Bears desire to lose was stronger than the Vikings   (scores.espn.go.com) divider line 67
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2013-12-02 01:56:43 PM
That was my impression as well... both teams were trying very hard to lose that game. Between that and the end of the Giants/Skins game, there were quite a few belly laughs to be had yesterday.
 
2013-12-02 02:10:43 PM
Jesus, should have seen the Steelers/Raiders game... After the Ravens scored a TD on their opening drive, the entire rest of their 22 points was field goals. Poor kicker was done by the end of that thing... As for the Steelers, I've never seen a team work SO hard to stop their own comeback in the last 2 minutes of a game.

Seems like it was a weird NFL weekend all around. Did ANY of the games end up appearing to be "normal"?
 
2013-12-02 02:14:53 PM

Mikey1969: Jesus, should have seen the Steelers/Raiders game... After the Ravens scored a TD on their


How many teams played the Steelers  this week?
 
2013-12-02 02:18:36 PM
Thanks Chicago!

Sincerely,

The Detroit Lions
 
2013-12-02 02:21:18 PM
As a Bears fan, let me just provide this helpful tip to the rest of the league...

If someone is unwise enough to start Christian Ponder against you - treat that motherfarker like a ming vase full of kittens when you sack him.
 
2013-12-02 02:27:04 PM

Mikey1969: Jesus, should have seen the Steelers/Raiders game... After the Ravens scored a TD on their opening drive, the entire rest of their 22 points was field goals. Poor kicker was done by the end of that thing... As for the Steelers, I've never seen a team work SO hard to stop their own comeback in the last 2 minutes of a game.


Justin Tucker 5/5 43, 34, 38, 45 and 48 yards.

Meanwhile the Bears and Vikings decided to try re-enacting the Alabama Auburn game. but even failed at that.  Thanks ObamaTomlin
 
2013-12-02 02:32:07 PM

degenerate-afro: Mikey1969: Jesus, should have seen the Steelers/Raiders game... After the Ravens scored a TD on their opening drive, the entire rest of their 22 points was field goals. Poor kicker was done by the end of that thing... As for the Steelers, I've never seen a team work SO hard to stop their own comeback in the last 2 minutes of a game.

Justin Tucker 5/5 43, 34, 38, 45 and 48 yards.

Meanwhile the Bears and Vikings decided to try re-enacting the Alabama Auburn game. but even failed at that.  Thanks ObamaTomlin


That kid is starting to look like the second coming of Matt Stover.

Also, there may have been a second touchdown but apparently coaches can get credited for half tackles.

Thanks Tomlin...
 
2013-12-02 02:35:40 PM
as a Vikings fan i'll take any win we can get.
 
2013-12-02 02:37:59 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-12-02 02:39:36 PM

mikaloyd: [i.imgur.com image 850x563]


Aw hells naw! I like seeing competent offensive football in a league that favors the offense.

/the suckage of the defense does make me a sad panda though
 
2013-12-02 02:39:55 PM
As a Bears fan.... I was surprisingly numb and disinterested from the start yesterday. They needed a win and farted around.

With our D, even winning out would just be setting up hilarious disappointment once we hit the playoffs.

I even got hype because Gould had a chance to a) set the NFL record longest FG in a nice dome and b) win the game on his first son's day of birth, but came up short and then missed again in OT. Not a great one for the kid's memory book.
 
2013-12-02 02:43:02 PM

Rhypskallion: Mikey1969: Jesus, should have seen the Steelers/Raiders game... After the Ravens scored a TD on their

How many teams played the Steelers  this week?


Lol, Ravens, not Raiders. What the hell? Wasn't even autocorrect.
 
2013-12-02 03:00:42 PM

Electromax: As a Bears fan.... I was surprisingly numb and disinterested from the start yesterday. They needed a win and farted around.

With our D, even winning out would just be setting up hilarious disappointment once we hit miss the playoffs.



/10-6
//not a Bears fan
 
2013-12-02 03:05:47 PM
*Shrug*

This is what happens with McCown at QB. He just isn't a guy who can lead a high-scoring team. He would have been best served playing like this on the Bears of 2006 or 2010, where the defense was crushing their enemies and hearing the lamentation of the women.

Don't get me wrong, he's not bad; he usually takes care of the ball, and he excels at these little dink and dunk passes, but he's not a downfield threat and he's not consistently accurate past 10 yards. I shudder to think what this would look like if Chicago DIDN'T have one of the best WR groups in the NFL.

Like it or not, the only real chance the Bears have is if Cutler can come back and start hanging 30+ points on every team.
 
2013-12-02 03:10:06 PM

Orgasmatron138: *Shrug*

This is what happens with McCown at QB. He just isn't a guy who can lead a high-scoring team. He would have been best served playing like this on the Bears of 2006 or 2010, where the defense was crushing their enemies and hearing the lamentation of the women.

Don't get me wrong, he's not bad; he usually takes care of the ball, and he excels at these little dink and dunk passes, but he's not a downfield threat and he's not consistently accurate past 10 yards. I shudder to think what this would look like if Chicago DIDN'T have one of the best WR groups in the NFL.

Like it or not, the only real chance the Bears have is if they draft or trade for some good defensive players in the offseason. Cutler can come back and start hanging 30+ points on every team.

 
2013-12-02 03:10:33 PM

Orgasmatron138: He would have been best served playing like this on the Bears of 2006 or 2010


Except with Lovie at the helm, the offense couldn't tell its ass from a hole in the ground and the meatballs would be screaming for Rex.
 
2013-12-02 03:13:08 PM

Jster422: As a Bears fan, let me just provide this helpful tip to the rest of the league...

If someone is unwise enough to start Christian Ponder against you - treat that motherfarker like a ming vase full of kittens when you sack him.


Awesome
 
2013-12-02 03:13:15 PM

TwoBeersOneCan: Electromax: As a Bears fan.... I was surprisingly numb and disinterested from the start yesterday. They needed a win and farted around.

With our D, even winning out would just be setting up hilarious disappointment once we hit miss the playoffs.


/10-6
//not a Bears fan


If that's the case, even easier. Not following the playoff picture this season but just assumed 10-6 would put them in the running (at least the wild card outside running) this year.
 
2013-12-02 03:16:57 PM
Okay, before I begin, Bears fan here...

Everyone crying "ZOMGTRESTMANISANIDIOTFIREHIMNAOW" needs to back up.  You have an offense that is slightly shakey with McCown in his fourth start (I love the guy, but there's a reason he's the backup), and from 47 yards, that is extremely makable for Gould on any given day.  No need to gain two or three more yards on even a mediocre run by Forte.  Except...

He didn't make it.

For whatever reason, the dude missed.  Life happens.

If he HAD made it, we'd be having a VERY different discussion about Trestman today.

We failed to get into FG range on the first drive of overtime.

We REALLY lucked out on that holding call against MN when they attempted and MADE their FG.

It just wasn't our day.

It hurts more because we're sorta kinda close to being a wildcard, and every time you get a Bears fan's hopes up even one tiny bit, its just a horrific let down when it doesn't work out.  We carry our bloated, sausage-filled hearts on our sleeves.

We also are anguished because of the state of our defense.  That will be fixed in offseason.  Count on it.  Either through a new coordinator or new drafts.

Sign Cutler.  Get him, Forte, Jeffrey, Marshall, and M. Bennett all on one side-- that's powerful.  Now is NOT the time to be farking with the QB.

We won't make the wildcard.  And if we did?  Would we get past SF? Philly? Let's go even further.... the Seahawks??  Nope, no way.

Not this year.

The game hurt.  A lot.  I was on the floor just shaking my head.

No Briggs, no Tillman, no Melton, no Cutty... yeah, that'll make an impact.

But NFC teams, promise me this.... PLEASE make sure that Detroit has a horrible, embarrassing demise in the playoffs.  Seriously.  Dirty team.  Dirty coach.  At least GB and MN play clean.

/back to work...
 
2013-12-02 03:23:02 PM

Transpogue: Okay, before I begin, Bears fan here...

Everyone crying "ZOMGTRESTMANISANIDIOTFIREHIMNAOW" needs to back up.  You have an offense that is slightly shakey with McCown in his fourth start (I love the guy, but there's a reason he's the backup), and from 47 yards, that is extremely makable for Gould on any given day.  No need to gain two or three more yards on even a mediocre run by Forte.  Except...

He didn't make it.

For whatever reason, the dude missed.  Life happens.

If he HAD made it, we'd be having a VERY different discussion about Trestman today.

We failed to get into FG range on the first drive of overtime.

We REALLY lucked out on that holding call against MN when they attempted and MADE their FG.

It just wasn't our day.

It hurts more because we're sorta kinda close to being a wildcard, and every time you get a Bears fan's hopes up even one tiny bit, its just a horrific let down when it doesn't work out.  We carry our bloated, sausage-filled hearts on our sleeves.

We also are anguished because of the state of our defense.  That will be fixed in offseason.  Count on it.  Either through a new coordinator or new drafts.

Sign Cutler.  Get him, Forte, Jeffrey, Marshall, and M. Bennett all on one side-- that's powerful.  Now is NOT the time to be farking with the QB.

We won't make the wildcard.  And if we did?  Would we get past SF? Philly? Let's go even further.... the Seahawks??  Nope, no way.

Not this year.

The game hurt.  A lot.  I was on the floor just shaking my head.

No Briggs, no Tillman, no Melton, no Cutty... yeah, that'll make an impact.

But NFC teams, promise me this.... PLEASE make sure that Detroit has a horrible, embarrassing demise in the playoffs.  Seriously.  Dirty team.  Dirty coach.  At least GB and MN play clean.

/back to work...


Pretty much all of that.

There's a real shiatty gap in the talent pipeline thanks to years of Angleo's draft picks. If there's one thing that could put a band-aid on this to win over the next couple years, it would be a monster pass rusher. Getting to the QB regularly can cover a lot of mistakes at LB and deep in the secondary.
 
2013-12-02 03:23:48 PM
As a Packers fan who lost 13 confidence pool points thanks to the Goulden Shankopotamus, all I have to say is, FML.
 
2013-12-02 03:38:32 PM

Transpogue: Okay, before I begin, Bears fan here...

Everyone crying "ZOMGTRESTMANISANIDIOTFIREHIMNAOW" needs to back up.  You have an offense that is slightly shakey with McCown in his fourth start (I love the guy, but there's a reason he's the backup), and from 47 yards, that is extremely makable for Gould on any given day.  No need to gain two or three more yards on even a mediocre run by Forte.  Except...


I don't want him fired (I mean, there's a reason the offense has been good, and it's not just personnel), but kicking that FG on second down really doesn't make any sense, even with a generally reliable kicker like Gould.  A few yards on a mediocre run still makes it a bit easier. Heck, run a dive into the line to put it exactly where Gould wants for zero yards and it makes it easier.  You're basically worrying about a muffed snap or Forte fumble at that point.  Or you can continue to attack and try to get it to chip shot range.  They did have a receiver with 250 yards on the day, not to mention that Marshall guy.
 
2013-12-02 03:41:40 PM

Transpogue: Everyone crying "ZOMGTRESTMANISANIDIOTFIREHIMNAOW" needs to back up. You have an offense that is slightly shakey with McCown in his fourth start (I love the guy, but there's a reason he's the backup), and from 47 yards, that is extremely makable for Gould on any given day. No need to gain two or three more yards on even a mediocre run by Forte. Except...


Okay, but before you continue, I just want to remind you, everything you post was about how small changes could have helped the Bears beat the Minnesota Vikings.  You know, the Vikings that were 2-8-1 before beating the Bears.  Look at what the Rams did to the Bears.

Now carry on, go ahead and argue how if one or two things had gone differently, the Bears would be good enough to beat a 2-8-1 team.
 
2013-12-02 03:45:28 PM

GQueue: Transpogue: Okay, before I begin, Bears fan here...

Everyone crying "ZOMGTRESTMANISANIDIOTFIREHIMNAOW" needs to back up.  You have an offense that is slightly shakey with McCown in his fourth start (I love the guy, but there's a reason he's the backup), and from 47 yards, that is extremely makable for Gould on any given day.  No need to gain two or three more yards on even a mediocre run by Forte.  Except...

I don't want him fired (I mean, there's a reason the offense has been good, and it's not just personnel), but kicking that FG on second down really doesn't make any sense, even with a generally reliable kicker like Gould.  A few yards on a mediocre run still makes it a bit easier. Heck, run a dive into the line to put it exactly where Gould wants for zero yards and it makes it easier.  You're basically worrying about a muffed snap or Forte fumble at that point.  Or you can continue to attack and try to get it to chip shot range.  They did have a receiver with 250 yards on the day, not to mention that Marshall guy.


Call it Monday morning coaching, but I would have run some kind of play action short pass on second down. They'd be expecting Forte to run on second down, and McCown is usually good for hitting the short stuff.  At the very least, wind down the clock for a couple more plays before trying it.

Overall, though, I really like Mark Trestman.
 
2013-12-02 03:47:28 PM

lennavan: Transpogue: Everyone crying "ZOMGTRESTMANISANIDIOTFIREHIMNAOW" needs to back up. You have an offense that is slightly shakey with McCown in his fourth start (I love the guy, but there's a reason he's the backup), and from 47 yards, that is extremely makable for Gould on any given day. No need to gain two or three more yards on even a mediocre run by Forte. Except...

Okay, but before you continue, I just want to remind you, everything you post was about how small changes could have helped the Bears beat the Minnesota Vikings.  You know, the Vikings that were 2-8-1 before beating the Bears.  Look at what the Rams did to the Bears.

Now carry on, go ahead and argue how if one or two things had gone differently, the Bears would be good enough to beat a 2-8-1 team.


In all fairness, we're talking about a VERY injured Bears team.
 
2013-12-02 03:52:06 PM

lennavan: Transpogue: Everyone crying "ZOMGTRESTMANISANIDIOTFIREHIMNAOW" needs to back up. You have an offense that is slightly shakey with McCown in his fourth start (I love the guy, but there's a reason he's the backup), and from 47 yards, that is extremely makable for Gould on any given day. No need to gain two or three more yards on even a mediocre run by Forte. Except...

Okay, but before you continue, I just want to remind you, everything you post was about how small changes could have helped the Bears beat the Minnesota Vikings.  You know, the Vikings that were 2-8-1 before beating the Bears.  Look at what the Rams did to the Bears.

Now carry on, go ahead and argue how if one or two things had gone differently, the Bears would be good enough to beat a 2-8-1 team.


If you think that with two hurting teams (one due more to injury/poor d line, one due to a super sucky QB and slightly less sucky d line) that the game wouldn't come down to a simple missed opportunity somewhere, you're really not paying attention.

The GB/MN tie game was a perfect example of that.  Two underperforming teams-- that one happened to end in a tie.

Could the Bears have beaten the Vikings? Yes.  Did they? No.  No one was guaranteeing Chicago a win in this game.  We were just very, very hopeful that they would.  That's called being a fan.

My post was NOT about MN-- it was about what needs to happen to improve the team.  But whatever-- interpret as you wish.
 
2013-12-02 04:15:33 PM

Transpogue: No Briggs, no Tillman, no Melton, no Cutty... yeah, that'll make an impact.


As an aside, Super Bowl 41 would have been way closer with a healthy Tommie Harris and Mike Brown on the field.

/fan wank
//defense was shredded by injury before being shredded by shiat offenses
 
2013-12-02 04:21:15 PM

germ78: Transpogue: No Briggs, no Tillman, no Melton, no Cutty... yeah, that'll make an impact.

As an aside, Super Bowl 41 would have been way closer with a healthy Tommie Harris and Mike Brown on the field.

/fan wank
//defense was shredded by injury before being shredded by shiat offenses


Tommie Harris running after Peyton Manning would have made for a HELL of a game. Too bad we as fans were robbed of it. Manning has great vision and usually makes great quick decisions, Harris was just a MONSTER before getting hurt. That would have been the story of the game.
 
2013-12-02 04:25:08 PM

Orgasmatron138: Overall, though, I really like Mark Trestman.


He's pretty much the anti-meatball coach (actual explanations instead of coachspeak! looks like a dork! actually mentions statistics and probabilities! doesn't say "we get off the bus running" or yammer about the Packers! doesn't go berzerk on the sidelines!), long term he appears to be absolutely the right hire.  At this point there aren't really a whole lot of coaches who don't make the occasional baffling decision.  There's a lot to like about the things they've done this year even if the defense is a sieve.  Hard to imagine the defense would have been that much better under Lovie this year with all the injuries.
 
2013-12-02 04:31:01 PM

Jster422: As a Bears fan, let me just provide this helpful tip to the rest of the league...

If someone is unwise enough to start Christian Ponder against you - treat that motherfarker like a ming vase full of kittens when you sack him.


If the Vikings D would stop giving up the lead in the final minute of the game, the dude would be 7-1 on the season. Of the 8 full games he played, he was winning at the 59 minute mark in 7 of them which is fairly impressive when you account for how bad the Vikings D has been this year. He's not remotely an elite quarterback, but he can be a very effective game manager with a decent defense. He'll have a fine career holding a clipboard for whoever the Vikings draft this offseason.
 
2013-12-02 04:43:19 PM

Mikey1969: Jesus, should have seen the Steelers/Raiders game... After the Ravens scored a TD on their opening drive, the entire rest of their 22 points was field goals. Poor kicker was done by the end of that thing... As for the Steelers, I've never seen a team work SO hard to stop their own comeback in the last 2 minutes of a game.

Seems like it was a weird NFL weekend all around. Did ANY of the games end up appearing to be "normal"?


I can say what was not normal.  Fox's coverage of the games.  1st, Fox has 2 channels, one in HD, one not.  Of course, they only showed the Eagles game on the nonHD.  2nd, at one point during the game, they were showing a commercial while the Eagles kicked a field goal.  That's unacceptably stupid coverage.  3rd, after the game was over, they switched over to the game in TFA.  It looked really good since it was going into OT.  I thought that was great!  Right up until the penalty negated the first FG attempt, and they switched over to post-game coverage.
Thanks for that, assholes.
 
2013-12-02 04:43:35 PM
I live in Vikings territory.  I was at a bar watching my team when this game ended.

The sense of dread among Vikings fans was terrifying.  Walsh is lining up to kick that "game winner" that got called back on a facemask, and everyone in the room expected something terrible to happen.
 
2013-12-02 04:45:55 PM

GQueue: Transpogue: Okay, before I begin, Bears fan here...

Everyone crying "ZOMGTRESTMANISANIDIOTFIREHIMNAOW" needs to back up.  You have an offense that is slightly shakey with McCown in his fourth start (I love the guy, but there's a reason he's the backup), and from 47 yards, that is extremely makable for Gould on any given day.  No need to gain two or three more yards on even a mediocre run by Forte.  Except...

I don't want him fired (I mean, there's a reason the offense has been good, and it's not just personnel), but kicking that FG on second down really doesn't make any sense, even with a generally reliable kicker like Gould.  A few yards on a mediocre run still makes it a bit easier. Heck, run a dive into the line to put it exactly where Gould wants for zero yards and it makes it easier.  You're basically worrying about a muffed snap or Forte fumble at that point.  Or you can continue to attack and try to get it to chip shot range.  They did have a receiver with 250 yards on the day, not to mention that Marshall guy.


I have been a fan of his aggressiveness (going for it on fourth down a lot), but yeah, kicking on 2nd down just makes zero sense.  I can see it on 3rd down (can throw away a bad snap or whatnot), but unless the clock was an issue, run a safe play.
 
2013-12-02 04:46:39 PM
I read that as sharks in a prison bathroom.
 
2013-12-02 04:49:55 PM

Orgasmatron138: lennavan: Transpogue: Everyone crying "ZOMGTRESTMANISANIDIOTFIREHIMNAOW" needs to back up. You have an offense that is slightly shakey with McCown in his fourth start (I love the guy, but there's a reason he's the backup), and from 47 yards, that is extremely makable for Gould on any given day. No need to gain two or three more yards on even a mediocre run by Forte. Except...

Okay, but before you continue, I just want to remind you, everything you post was about how small changes could have helped the Bears beat the Minnesota Vikings.  You know, the Vikings that were 2-8-1 before beating the Bears.  Look at what the Rams did to the Bears.

Now carry on, go ahead and argue how if one or two things had gone differently, the Bears would be good enough to beat a 2-8-1 team.

In all fairness, we're talking about a VERY injured Bears team.


Let's not forget that the Vikings almost beat the (mostly healthy) Bears in week 2.  This says a lot more about the Bears than the Vikings, though.
 
2013-12-02 04:57:18 PM

Orgasmatron138: lennavan: Transpogue: Everyone crying "ZOMGTRESTMANISANIDIOTFIREHIMNAOW" needs to back up. You have an offense that is slightly shakey with McCown in his fourth start (I love the guy, but there's a reason he's the backup), and from 47 yards, that is extremely makable for Gould on any given day. No need to gain two or three more yards on even a mediocre run by Forte. Except...

Okay, but before you continue, I just want to remind you, everything you post was about how small changes could have helped the Bears beat the Minnesota Vikings.  You know, the Vikings that were 2-8-1 before beating the Bears.  Look at what the Rams did to the Bears.

Now carry on, go ahead and argue how if one or two things had gone differently, the Bears would be good enough to beat a 2-8-1 team.

In all fairness, we're talking about a VERY injured Bears team.


The same Bears who lost to the 3-9 Washington Redskin Potatos?
 
2013-12-02 04:58:52 PM

durbnpoisn: Mikey1969: Jesus, should have seen the Steelers/Raiders game... After the Ravens scored a TD on their opening drive, the entire rest of their 22 points was field goals. Poor kicker was done by the end of that thing... As for the Steelers, I've never seen a team work SO hard to stop their own comeback in the last 2 minutes of a game.

Seems like it was a weird NFL weekend all around. Did ANY of the games end up appearing to be "normal"?

I can say what was not normal.  Fox's coverage of the games.  1st, Fox has 2 channels, one in HD, one not.  Of course, they only showed the Eagles game on the nonHD.  2nd, at one point during the game, they were showing a commercial while the Eagles kicked a field goal.  That's unacceptably stupid coverage.  3rd, after the game was over, they switched over to the game in TFA.  It looked really good since it was going into OT.  I thought that was great!  Right up until the penalty negated the first FG attempt, and they switched over to post-game coverage.
Thanks for that, assholes.


Yeah, coverage has been getting bad, bad, bad... I've seen them come back late from commercial breaks, sometimes missing an entire down, I even watched a game go to OT, and then switch to the "regularly scheduled game" when the started.... The other bad one is when they suddenly change to some shiatrier,boring game because the slug-fest your watching gets "too lopsided".
 
2013-12-02 04:59:34 PM

Igor Jakovsky: I read that as sharks in a prison bathroom.


Fins to the left, fins to the right, and you're the only girl in town!

/Sharks that swim on the land!
 
2013-12-02 05:16:45 PM

hobnail: Orgasmatron138: lennavan: Transpogue: Everyone crying "ZOMGTRESTMANISANIDIOTFIREHIMNAOW" needs to back up. You have an offense that is slightly shakey with McCown in his fourth start (I love the guy, but there's a reason he's the backup), and from 47 yards, that is extremely makable for Gould on any given day. No need to gain two or three more yards on even a mediocre run by Forte. Except...

Okay, but before you continue, I just want to remind you, everything you post was about how small changes could have helped the Bears beat the Minnesota Vikings.  You know, the Vikings that were 2-8-1 before beating the Bears.  Look at what the Rams did to the Bears.

Now carry on, go ahead and argue how if one or two things had gone differently, the Bears would be good enough to beat a 2-8-1 team.

In all fairness, we're talking about a VERY injured Bears team.

Let's not forget that the Vikings almost beat the (mostly healthy) Bears in week 2.  This says a lot more about the Bears than the Vikings, though.


Dude, I said the Bears were very injured, not that they are Superbowl contenders. IIRC, the Bears put up over 40 points in that game, but the defense gave up, what, 45? 46?

The Bears are a good team when healthy. Not elite, good. Much improved offense, slowly crumbling defense.
 
2013-12-02 05:21:25 PM
Welp. That game stuck a fork in it for me. Having the worst defense in the league is detrimental, who knew?

/I'll still watch the Beloved.
//maybe next year will be better
///Jeffery is a stud
 
2013-12-02 05:34:05 PM

El Brujo: Welp. That game stuck a fork in it for me. Having the worst defense in the league is detrimental, who knew?

/I'll still watch the Beloved.
//maybe next year will be better
///Jeffery is a stud


That's the best catch I've seen from a Bear since the 2006 NFC championship game.  Was it Berrian who kinda snaked around one of the Saints defenders and bailed out Grossman? That was a hell of a catch too.
 
2013-12-02 05:38:07 PM

Orgasmatron138: El Brujo: Welp. That game stuck a fork in it for me. Having the worst defense in the league is detrimental, who knew?

/I'll still watch the Beloved.
//maybe next year will be better
///Jeffery is a stud

That's the best catch I've seen from a Bear since the 2006 NFC championship game.  Was it Berrian who kinda snaked around one of the Saints defenders and bailed out Grossman? That was a hell of a catch too.


Yeah probably. It was also his payday, for which I believe he was a massive bust. Is he still in the league, even? Last known sighting in Minny.
 
2013-12-02 05:55:29 PM

Transpogue: lennavan: Transpogue: Everyone crying "ZOMGTRESTMANISANIDIOTFIREHIMNAOW" needs to back up. You have an offense that is slightly shakey with McCown in his fourth start (I love the guy, but there's a reason he's the backup), and from 47 yards, that is extremely makable for Gould on any given day. No need to gain two or three more yards on even a mediocre run by Forte. Except...

Okay, but before you continue, I just want to remind you, everything you post was about how small changes could have helped the Bears beat the Minnesota Vikings.  You know, the Vikings that were 2-8-1 before beating the Bears.  Look at what the Rams did to the Bears.

Now carry on, go ahead and argue how if one or two things had gone differently, the Bears would be good enough to beat a 2-8-1 team.

If you think that with two hurting teams (one due more to injury/poor d line, one due to a super sucky QB and slightly less sucky d line) that the game wouldn't come down to a simple missed opportunity somewhere, you're really not paying attention.

The GB/MN tie game was a perfect example of that.  Two underperforming teams-- that one happened to end in a tie.

Could the Bears have beaten the Vikings? Yes.  Did they? No.  No one was guaranteeing Chicago a win in this game.  We were just very, very hopeful that they would.  That's called being a fan.

My post was NOT about MN-- it was about what needs to happen to improve the team.  But whatever-- interpret as you wish.



My post was about your defense of Trestman.  I will grant you, this game is not a shining example because you can easily blame injuries.  But look at the rest of the Bears "accomplishments" when they were healthy.  When they were healthy, they beat Minnesota by a single point.  The currently 3-9 Redskins beat them by putting up 45 points on their defense.  The Rams put up 42 points on the Bears when they were only really missing Briggs on D.

I live in Chicago, after the first few games all I heard was how awesome Trestman was because the Bears were 3-0.  I'm not saying we should fire him immediately but I do want you to keep shiat in perspective.  It's not like the Bears were awesome under Trestman when they were healthy.
 
2013-12-02 05:59:13 PM

GQueue: Orgasmatron138: Overall, though, I really like Mark Trestman.

He's pretty much the anti-meatball coach (actual explanations instead of coachspeak! looks like a dork! actually mentions statistics and probabilities! doesn't say "we get off the bus running" or yammer about the Packers! doesn't go berzerk on the sidelines!), long term he appears to be absolutely the right hire.  At this point there aren't really a whole lot of coaches who don't make the occasional baffling decision.  There's a lot to like about the things they've done this year even if the defense is a sieve.  Hard to imagine the defense would have been that much better under Lovie this year with all the injuries.


Honestly, what I love about him the most is his ability to shut down inane Chicago Media 'story' questions.  They'll drive for a specific angle, keep pushing, etc hoping for that soundbite, then he'll give a 5-15 minute rundown on why the story is a non-issue based purely on statistical analysis and fact.  All without telling the reporter to STFU.

He's a pimp.

Who looks like he Sharpies his eyebrows.
 
2013-12-02 05:59:40 PM

Electromax: TwoBeersOneCan: Electromax: As a Bears fan.... I was surprisingly numb and disinterested from the start yesterday. They needed a win and farted around.

With our D, even winning out would just be setting up hilarious disappointment once we hit miss the playoffs.


/10-6
//not a Bears fan

If that's the case, even easier. Not following the playoff picture this season but just assumed 10-6 would put them in the running (at least the wild card outside running) this year.


I was joking that 10-6 didn't get them into the playoffs last year, which is honestly pretty unusual.  10-6 would probably fall short again this year, at least as far as the wild cards go.
 
2013-12-02 06:20:19 PM

AntonChigger: Thanks Chicago!

Sincerely,

The Detroit Lions


Don't worry. You're going to be one and done in the playoffs.

Sincerely,

Everybody That's Not a Lions Fan
 
2013-12-02 06:25:26 PM
Coach Trestman: "Let's see here...my kicker's wife just had a baby at 1:40 this morning, and then he held his child for about five minutes and then flew to Minneapolis and he hasn't had any sleep. We're about 47 yards away, but it's only second down and Forte has been averaging about 5 yards a carry...so...LET'S HAVE GOULD KICK IT EARLY WHAT'S THE WORST THAT COULD HAPPEN"

Neither team deserved to win that game, but that call was so Lovie-like it was scary.
 
2013-12-02 06:27:37 PM

Transpogue: that is extremely makable for Gould on any given day*.


*except after just having his first baby and no sleep
 
2013-12-02 06:45:32 PM

lennavan: The Rams put up 42 points on the Bears when they were only really missing Briggs on D.


Wait, what?
 
2013-12-02 06:55:46 PM

Dafatone: I live in Vikings territory.  I was at a bar watching my team when this game ended.

The sense of dread among Vikings fans was terrifying.  Walsh is lining up to kick that "game winner" that got called back on a facemask, and everyone in the room expected something terrible to happen.



We still remember Gary Anderson missing against Atlanta in 1998.
 
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