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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-12-02 11:05:06 AM
McGlahsen said the passenger was cleared to board the plane in Austin, but while the flight was in the air the passenger's status was changed to "no-fly."

In the old days (pre-D.B. Cooper) they could have implemented his new status in real time by opening the rear door and making him walk the ramp.
 
2013-12-02 12:37:59 PM
"Little to no risk", really? If he was coughing, he was spewing infected droplets all over the place. He undoubtedly knew he wasn't supposed to be in contact with others if at all possible, so putting himself in a very enclosed area with a lot of people is deeply irresponsible. I hope he's brought up on charges for attempted intentional spread of an infectious agent.
 
2013-12-02 12:39:20 PM
and so much for the basic good in people. unless he was going home to die and the doctor did tell him he could fly.

otherwise, fark him.

/easy for me to say since I've never had incurable degenerative lung disease
 
2013-12-02 12:40:50 PM
People who knowingly are infected with TB, eskew their treatment and the recommendations of public health officials and their own doctor, and then expose others should face the same penalties as those who spread HIV intentionally - especially in the age of MDR-TB and XDR-TB.

If I was on a plane with a douchebag like that, I'd be out for blood. TB Prophylaxis is not a fun thing. Atomic Diarrhea on the level of Drinking the Water in Tijuana.
 
2013-12-02 12:41:53 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: and so much for the basic good in people. unless he was going home to die and the doctor did tell him he could fly.


Had he done so, the airline could have made accomidations to seat him 3 feet to 6 feet away from people, and make him wear a good-fitting surgical or dust mask. This would have made the risk to those in the aircraft minimal.
 
2013-12-02 12:42:12 PM
Air travel will kill us all.
 
2013-12-02 12:42:41 PM
I think I might prefer that.
 
2013-12-02 12:42:47 PM
As someone who has been exposed to TB in the past, i'm not getting a kick...etc..etc..

Can someone please get a handle on TB?! After i tested and was found to have been exposed to TB, i was given meds that haven't been upgraded/changed since 1932! Come on, CDC...get a move on.

/meds will give you the sharts...don't think it won't.
 
2013-12-02 12:43:35 PM
i.cdn.turner.com

www.hongkongairport.com
 
2013-12-02 12:44:01 PM
People who knowingly go out in public while sick are douchebags.
 
2013-12-02 12:44:09 PM
TB Dickwad comments to commence in 3...2...1...
 
2013-12-02 12:46:49 PM

HKWolf: As someone who has been exposed to TB in the past, i'm not getting a kick...etc..etc..

Can someone please get a handle on TB?! After i tested and was found to have been exposed to TB, i was given meds that haven't been upgraded/changed since 1932! Come on, CDC...get a move on.

/meds will give you the sharts...don't think it won't.


Getting a handle on TB means getting a handle on migration, poverty, lousy medical care, and other aspects of sub-standard living conditions. Unless we find another magic bullet thingee.
 
2013-12-02 12:47:17 PM
Seats are fart sponges.
After a long flight, I'll let a long slow hot one into the seat just before getting up to leave the plane.
 
2013-12-02 12:47:44 PM
Is that why I've been hacking and wheezing for a week straight?
 
2013-12-02 12:47:48 PM

hardinparamedic: TheShavingofOccam123: and so much for the basic good in people. unless he was going home to die and the doctor did tell him he could fly.

Had he done so, the airline could have made accomidations to seat him 3 feet to 6 feet away from people, and make him wear a good-fitting surgical or dust mask. This would have made the risk to those in the aircraft minimal.


The airline shouldn't be expected to provide a 3-6 foot buffer unless he wants to purchase all surrounding seats that are within that range. Life is hard, why should others be placed at a greatly increased risk just to accommodate him?

I'm not even trolling.
 
2013-12-02 12:47:55 PM

HKWolf: Can someone please get a handle on TB?! After i tested and was found to have been exposed to TB, i was given meds that haven't been upgraded/changed since 1932! Come on, CDC...get a move on


Unfortunately, TB was under control. It was thanks to the 80s and 90s that it's back now, and in a big way. It's now common to find infection by strains that are multi-drug resistant, especially in people who are homeless or HIV patients, as well as people who have spent a little time in India/Pakistan, and in people who start feeling better and stop taking their medication after a week or two.

And now we have Extreme Drug Resistance and Total Drug Resistant strains, which are immune to the second and third line antibiotic treatments we used to use on them for the exact same reasons.
 
2013-12-02 12:48:24 PM
"Welcome to Phoenix.  Please follow the Habitrail tube to your individual containment cell, where you will wait in luxury until the designated release date."
 
2013-12-02 12:52:36 PM
I hope they bill him for the cost of disinfecting the plane.
 
2013-12-02 12:52:57 PM
Go get shots...

Yet you're having them walk through the terminal...

WTF?
 
2013-12-02 12:56:55 PM
Just TB? No head lice?
 
2013-12-02 12:59:19 PM

ZAZ: McGlahsen said the passenger was cleared to board the plane in Austin, but while the flight was in the air the passenger's status was changed to "no-fly."

In the old days (pre-D.B. Cooper) they could have implemented his new status in real time by opening the rear door and making him walk the ramp.


Fresh air was a common treatment.
 
2013-12-02 01:00:48 PM

Vector R: "Little to no risk", really? If he was coughing, he was spewing infected droplets all over the place. He undoubtedly knew he wasn't supposed to be in contact with others if at all possible, so putting himself in a very enclosed area with a lot of people is deeply irresponsible. I hope he's brought up on charges for attempted intentional spread of an infectious agent.


Heard this on the news this morning and my immediate thought was, Why would the CDC put him on the 'no-fly' list if there was 'little to no risk'?
 
2013-12-02 01:02:10 PM
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I'm dying. How are you?
 
2013-12-02 01:03:23 PM
So, if I sit in my seat and cough incessantly, I'll soon have plenty of space and both armrests? Luxury!
 
2013-12-02 01:04:24 PM

sdd2000: I hope they bill him for the cost of disinfecting the plane.


You really think they disinfected the plane? LOL!
 
2013-12-02 01:04:55 PM
What a (cough cough) lovely baby (cough cough) . He just (cough cough) screams and (cough cough) screams. Can I (cough cough) hold him (cough cough) ?

Aw, where are you going?
 
2013-12-02 01:05:48 PM
Soon I'll be flying to PDX from SNA with a 3.5 and 2.5 y/o.

Nervous.
 
2013-12-02 01:07:04 PM

Harry Freakstorm: So, if I sit in my seat and cough incessantly, I'll soon have plenty of space and both armrests? Luxury!


A friend and I flew back from Europe, we didn't have seats next to each other, but I could see him one row up and across the isle at the window. Full flight.
He was sweating, stinky and coughing up a lung every 15 minutes for an 8 hr flight.
I could see the person seated next to him, practically leaning into the isle with this look...

So gross.
 
2013-12-02 01:08:40 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: People who knowingly go out in public while sick are douchebags.


THIS.  People come in to work at my office so sick they should be quarantined and want to be patted on the back for being such troupers. When I was in High School, they gave an award to students who had perfect attendance, ignoring the fact that those kids were sent to school with the flu, chicken pox, menningitis, etc. etc.
 
2013-12-02 01:11:38 PM
dilbert.com
 
2013-12-02 01:15:17 PM

Vector R: "Little to no risk", really? If he was coughing, he was spewing infected droplets all over the place. He undoubtedly knew he wasn't supposed to be in contact with others if at all possible, so putting himself in a very enclosed area with a lot of people is deeply irresponsible. I hope he's brought up on charges for attempted intentional spread of an infectious agent.


Are you a real doctor or do you just play one on PC?
 
2013-12-02 01:15:19 PM
dilbert.com

dilbert.com
 
2013-12-02 01:17:01 PM
dilbert.com
 
2013-12-02 01:18:47 PM
I already hate to fly, but have been considering doing the mask thing next time I have to endure it.

Any Farkers have recommendations of brands or sources? Cheap paper ones from the drugstore, or full blown respirator?
 
2013-12-02 01:19:00 PM

gshepnyc: The My Little Pony Killer: People who knowingly go out in public while sick are douchebags.

THIS.  People come in to work at my office so sick they should be quarantined and want to be patted on the back for being such troupers. When I was in High School, they gave an award to students who had perfect attendance, ignoring the fact that those kids were sent to school with the flu, chicken pox, menningitis, etc. etc.


Yes, isolate the sick so our immune systems never encounter anything in order to become immune. That should work out well.
 
2013-12-02 01:24:34 PM

hardinparamedic: HKWolf: Can someone please get a handle on TB?! After i tested and was found to have been exposed to TB, i was given meds that haven't been upgraded/changed since 1932! Come on, CDC...get a move on

Unfortunately, TB was under control. It was thanks to the 80s and 90s that it's back now, and in a big way. It's now common to find infection by strains that are multi-drug resistant, especially in people who are homeless or HIV patients, as well as people who have spent a little time in India/Pakistan, and in people who start feeling better and stop taking their medication after a week or two.

And now we have Extreme Drug Resistance and Total Drug Resistant strains, which are immune to the second and third line antibiotic treatments we used to use on them for the exact same reasons.


Ugh. We're all doomed. Cooties are everywhere. Get ready for the zombie hordes.
 
2013-12-02 01:24:40 PM
It's a risk. Perhaps that is why some of those scanners that can see through your clothes are heat scanners and can tell if you have a fever. Some strains of TB have become resistant to the drugs we have.

Some of these people knowing fly with TB, others might no know they are infected but be just as dangerous to public health.

Like terrorism, over-reaction and wasted security measures are greater threats perhaps than the problem itself, but you still have to try to balance the public health and safety with the economics and with human rights and freedoms.

It may be that sometime in the future air travel will have to go, not because it is a rapidly growing source of greenhouse gases, but because it is simply the perfect way of rapidly spreading desease around the whole Earth. Slower means of transport give health authorities more time to detect and quarantine contagion and expose fewer people, much more slowly. On a train you can get up and walk around, leaving your sick seatmate to cough all he or she pleases. On a ship a sick person can be confined to cabin. In a car, only the driver and other passengers are exposed. Even on a bus the bus might be virtually empty and only the driver at any real risk.

What can you do? Take care of yourself. Avoid travel if you don't feel well (it's hard enough to be sick while travelling even if you have something relatively mild like a cold or a headache).

Sometimes people can't decide to take a sick day. They have to be somewhere or they get sick en route and can't turn back rather than going on.

Fortunately, TB is a fairly hard disease to catch except perhaps for some more virulent strains. It has largely been an opportunistic infection that you get if you are vulnerable. But even healthy people do get it   sometimes.

This is a major argument for good basic public healthcare for those who can't afford private health care: if your neighbor breaks a leg, fark him, not your problem perhaps, but if your neighbor gets tuberculosis from not eating properly and living in a refrigerator box, it may well be you who are farked.  What goes around, comes around. It's not an externality or a zero sum game to spend money on public health care. The benefit accrues to both the payer and the consumer of health services, even if they are different people. The life you save may be your own, as they say.
 
2013-12-02 01:26:29 PM
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Just play some guitar, it will be alright.
 
2013-12-02 01:28:19 PM

Harry Freakstorm: What a (cough cough) lovely baby (cough cough) . He just (cough cough) screams and (cough cough) screams. Can I (cough cough) hold him (cough cough) ?

Aw, where are you going?


You joke, but I was recently in a baby/kids clothing store (standalone, not in a mall), and I came around the corner to find a woman hacking up a lung all over some onesies. We hightailed it out of there but all I could think is "Why the fark would a sick person choose a baby store to hang out in??? If you really really need to shop, there's this great invention called THE INTERNET WHERE YOU CAN SHOP ONLINE WITHOUT INFECTING MY OR SOMEONE ELSE'S BABY."

/I don't have a facepalm gif
//but that lady deserved one
///and some nyquil
 
2013-12-02 01:29:30 PM

beachcat: I already hate to fly, but have been considering doing the mask thing next time I have to endure it.

Any Farkers have recommendations of brands or sources? Cheap paper ones from the drugstore, or full blown respirator?


Those cheap earloop ones are not comfortable for more than an hour or two, and tend to gap around the sides. Look for something like these:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000GUP7UC/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?qid=138600879 1 &sr=8-5&pi=SL75
 
2013-12-02 01:31:19 PM

Vector R: "Little to no risk", really? If he was coughing, he was spewing infected droplets all over the place. He undoubtedly knew he wasn't supposed to be in contact with others if at all possible, so putting himself in a very enclosed area with a lot of people is deeply irresponsible. I hope he's brought up on charges for attempted intentional spread of an infectious agent.


TB requires long periods of close exposure--generally several months of living together--to be transmitted.
 
2013-12-02 01:32:34 PM

dictyboy: sdd2000: I hope they bill him for the cost of disinfecting the plane.

You really think they disinfected the plane? LOL!


No, but the airlines charges for every thing else. If this were Spirit they already would have charge for the TB fee.
 
2013-12-02 01:34:57 PM
For everyone who is concerned about air being 'recirculated' in a plane. That doesn't really happen.  So in general principal, your just dealing with the folks immediately around you in the same way as if you were a pedestrian in public.

Also, don't lick the chairs.
 
2013-12-02 01:35:19 PM

hardinparamedic: HKWolf: Can someone please get a handle on TB?! After i tested and was found to have been exposed to TB, i was given meds that haven't been upgraded/changed since 1932! Come on, CDC...get a move on

Unfortunately, TB was under control. It was thanks to the 80s and 90s that it's back now, and in a big way. It's now common to find infection by strains that are multi-drug resistant, especially in people who are homeless or HIV patients, as well as people who have spent a little time in India/Pakistan, and in people who start feeling better and stop taking their medication after a week or two.

And now we have Extreme Drug Resistance and Total Drug Resistant strains, which are immune to the second and third line antibiotic treatments we used to use on them for the exact same reasons.


We should seriously make all antibiotics come in the form of a locking arm band and needle.  Every morning it doses your blood and when it's gone it unlocks.  Or we just need to hurry up with the nanobots.
 
2013-12-02 01:35:35 PM

Hollie Maea: TB requires long periods of close exposure--generally several months of living together--to be transmitted.


Or not.

"A single sneeze can release up to 40,000 droplets.[40] Each one of these droplets may transmit the disease, since the infectious dose of tuberculosis is very low (the inhalation of fewer than 10 bacteria may cause an infection)."
 
2013-12-02 01:39:27 PM
If you don't want to deal with my TB then maybe you should charter a private flight. All of you act like you have never been sick before. Sheesh.
 
2013-12-02 01:43:28 PM
hemisphericinstitute.org

Forget about your fellow passengers and think about your Mexican hotel maid or restaurant bus boy.  Every time he drops by your table he's breathing TB on you and every time you go back to your room to find your bed made and new towels just remember it's also been turned into a TB deathtrap just waiting for you to take a deep breath.  And you don't want to know what he's giving this guy back in the storeroom but you're definitely going to have some of it in your burratta.  California TB rates have been skyrocketing for years and nobody wants to do anything about the primary cause.
 
2013-12-02 01:47:41 PM

blatz514: Just play some guitar, it will be alright.


Just don't eat the fish...


/I had lasagna
 
2013-12-02 01:51:46 PM
They brought TB under control in the 50's and 60's by a massive vaccination program and the use of new drugs.

In the 70's, while working in a hospital, I got exposed to TB from one of the patients, but simply got a booster shot and was warned that future blood tests may show up positive, so I needed to inform my physicians.

The absolutely irresponsible and deadly 'anti-vaccination' fad of a few years ago plus the increase in global travel helped bring it back.

I'm not anti technology but I am anti-stupid when it comes to our current version where one big mouthed person can launch a movement against common sense preventative measures based on personal opinion and bad science.

We used to chase TB infected people down and confine them to huge hospitals designed specifically for treatment. We had quarantine laws, enforced by the local cops. Now, you can't quarantine anyone. It's a violation of their civil rights. They are free to go about an infect as many people as they can, until such infections can be traced back to them and then they are jailed. Usually by then, it's too late.

Cramming far too many people in an aircraft is not a good idea. It never was but the proliferation of Passenger Jet Companies and the soaring cost of fuel made this necessary. Plus more and more folks choose to travel by aircraft, instead of something like the train since the train takes longer.

History has shown us that whenever a local population or group of people pass a critical density per square meter, diseases become more common. More people tend to act badly. Turn around time for passenger jets does not leave a whole lot of room for a thorough cleaning between flights.

Ages ago, a single sick person on a months long sailing ship voyage could wipe out the majority of the passengers and crew. We haven't learned much since then.

Plus, there's a whole lot of nations now travelling which do not have the vaccination laws we use or do not have the ability to vaccinate all of their population.

I have a dislike of crowds (agoraphobia) and the idea of being sealed into an aircraft, shoulder to shoulder with scores of strangers, for hours at a time is my idea of hell. Toss in annoying kids and sullen passengers and I'm ready to rip a hole in the hull with my bare hands and leave. (I don't fly.)

Besides, for what it costs to fly across the US, I could get a half compartment, private, on a train and take a couple of days to make the trip in comfort, complete with my own bathroom.
 
2013-12-02 01:53:16 PM

Hollie Maea: Vector R: "Little to no risk", really? If he was coughing, he was spewing infected droplets all over the place. He undoubtedly knew he wasn't supposed to be in contact with others if at all possible, so putting himself in a very enclosed area with a lot of people is deeply irresponsible. I hope he's brought up on charges for attempted intentional spread of an infectious agent.

TB requires long periods of close exposure--generally several months of living together--to be transmitted.


Absolute bollox.
 
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