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(Huffington Post)   You're on pace to be the least productive Congress in modern history, so you... (C) schedule even more days off in 2014, inflating your vacation package to an eye-watering 252 days   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 129
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2013-12-02 10:03:03 AM
must be nice!
 
2013-12-02 10:10:37 AM
jonstewartfarkyou.gif
 
2013-12-02 10:22:00 AM
Well... it's not like they can get any less popular
 
2013-12-02 10:22:54 AM
Look, I hate Congressional laziness as much as the next man, but the idea that Congressmen are on "vacation" when Congress is not in session is laughable. They almost always spend that time in their district, planning for the next session, meeting with donors, meeting with constituents, and in general doing a whole lot of work.
 
2013-12-02 10:25:00 AM
How much are we paying these worthless assholes again?

AND they get a pension?

For what?
 
2013-12-02 10:38:09 AM

Rincewind53: Look, I hate Congressional laziness as much as the next man, but the idea that Congressmen are on "vacation" when Congress is not in session is laughable. They almost always spend that time in their district, planning for the next session, meeting with donors, meeting with constituents, and in general doing a whole lot of work.


i'd say that 90 percent of their vacation time is spent campaigning for reelection. this is the inherent problem with the 2-year term.
 
2013-12-02 10:45:36 AM

Marcus Aurelius: How much are we paying these worthless assholes again?

AND they get a pension?

For what?


Most of them don't actually care about the salary or pension. My congressman owns Clear Channel communications; he's in DC to make sure the Commerce Dept and Treasury issue rulings which are favorable to his business. It's working nicely; he's worth close to $1 billion now, up 500% from when his district was created by Tom DeLay.

Same is true of more and more of them, a trend that is growing as public financing for elections has dwindled (surely there can be no connection there, right?)
 
2013-12-02 10:45:44 AM

FlashHarry: Rincewind53: Look, I hate Congressional laziness as much as the next man, but the idea that Congressmen are on "vacation" when Congress is not in session is laughable. They almost always spend that time in their district, planning for the next session, meeting with donors, meeting with constituents, and in general doing a whole lot of work.

i'd say that 90 percent of their vacation time is spent campaigning for reelection. this is the inherent problem with the 2-year term.


And bribe collection.  Collecting bribes is a lot more work than it sounds.
 
2013-12-02 10:46:30 AM

Rincewind53: Look, I hate Congressional laziness as much as the next man, but the idea that Congressmen are on "vacation" when Congress is not in session is laughable. They almost always spend that time in their district, planning for the next session, meeting with donors, meeting with constituents, and in general doing a whole lot of work.

'fundraising'.
 
2013-12-02 10:46:46 AM

MisterTweak: Marcus Aurelius: How much are we paying these worthless assholes again?

AND they get a pension?

For what?

Most of them don't actually care about the salary or pension. My congressman owns Clear Channel communications; he's in DC to make sure the Commerce Dept and Treasury issue rulings which are favorable to his business. It's working nicely; he's worth close to $1 billion now, up 500% from when his district was created by Tom DeLay.

Same is true of more and more of them, a trend that is growing as public financing for elections has dwindled (surely there can be no connection there, right?)


He'll still cash those pension checks.  I god damned guarantee it.
 
2013-12-02 10:48:35 AM

Tigger: Rincewind53: Look, I hate Congressional laziness as much as the next man, but the idea that Congressmen are on "vacation" when Congress is not in session is laughable. They almost always spend that time in their district, planning for the next session, meeting with donors, meeting with constituents, and in general doing a whole lot of work.
'fundraising'.


FlashHarry: i'd say that 90 percent of their vacation time is spent campaigning for reelection. this is the inherent problem with the 2-year term.


Well yes. The freshmen Congressmen spend about 30 hours a week fundraising. It's absurd and terrible.

But it's sure as hell not vacation.
 
2013-12-02 10:49:23 AM

Marcus Aurelius: MisterTweak: Marcus Aurelius: How much are we paying these worthless assholes again?

AND they get a pension?

For what?

Most of them don't actually care about the salary or pension. My congressman owns Clear Channel communications; he's in DC to make sure the Commerce Dept and Treasury issue rulings which are favorable to his business. It's working nicely; he's worth close to $1 billion now, up 500% from when his district was created by Tom DeLay.

Same is true of more and more of them, a trend that is growing as public financing for elections has dwindled (surely there can be no connection there, right?)

He'll still cash those pension checks.  I god damned guarantee it.


Probably. I'd use the standard joke of "he didn't get rich by making poor financial choices", but the truth is he got rich by marrying into the right family, so... I say don't count your chickens yet. ;-)
 
2013-12-02 10:51:27 AM

Marcus Aurelius: FlashHarry: Rincewind53: Look, I hate Congressional laziness as much as the next man, but the idea that Congressmen are on "vacation" when Congress is not in session is laughable. They almost always spend that time in their district, planning for the next session, meeting with donors, meeting with constituents, and in general doing a whole lot of work.

i'd say that 90 percent of their vacation time is spent campaigning for reelection. this is the inherent problem with the 2-year term.

And bribe collection.  Collecting bribes is a lot more work than it sounds.


Really!?  The last thing any of them should be doing is collect brides.  Whether in person or mail order.  One should be more than suffici... What?  Bribes?  Well in that case, never mind.
 
2013-12-02 10:57:23 AM
The less they work, the less damage they can do.
 
2013-12-02 10:57:50 AM

Rincewind53: Look, I hate Congressional laziness as much as the next man, but the idea that Congressmen are on "vacation" when Congress is not in session is laughable. They almost always spend that time in their district, planning for the next session, meeting with donors, meeting with constituents, and in general doing a whole lot of work.getting their knobs polished by lobbyists.


True - serious biznass.
 
2013-12-02 10:58:31 AM

Tigger: Rincewind53: Look, I hate Congressional laziness as much as the next man, but the idea that Congressmen are on "vacation" when Congress is not in session is laughable. They almost always spend that time in their district, planning for the next session, meeting with donors, meeting with constituents, and in general doing a whole lot of work.
'fundraising'.


This.
 
2013-12-02 10:59:54 AM

Marcus Aurelius: How much are we paying these worthless assholes again?

AND they get a pension?

For what?


You basically pay a guy to fundraise (for himself) 80% of the time and then continue to pay for that fundraising WELL after he leaves office.  It is the greatest racket in history.  Are we surprised that a hive of scum and villainy has stepped up to the plate for this "job"?
 
2013-12-02 11:00:45 AM

I_Am_Weasel: And bribe collection.  Collecting bribes is a lot more work than it sounds.


Those hotel room dead hookers, live boys and coke-nose repairs don't bury themselves either.
 
2013-12-02 11:01:19 AM
Blah blah blah, Fartbama blah blah blah golf blah.

/blah
 
2013-12-02 11:02:04 AM

Marcus Aurelius: How much are we paying these worthless assholes again?

AND they get a pension?

For what?


Storm their offices. Throw them into the street. Crucify them on crosses made from their desks.
 
2013-12-02 11:03:30 AM
Schedule at Home for Congressman Derpenstein:

8AM Fundraising Breakfast at local fire company; make sure staff prepares "jes' plain folks" speech
9AM Fundraising call with Bain Capital; make sure staff prepares "Did I work the shaft enough?" speech
10AM Golf
3PM Speech to local Tea Party screaming about how entitlements and spending must be destroyed
4PM Photo OP handing out big cardboard check to local playground
5PM Quiet time in office with new intern "Cinnamon"
8PM Quiet time in out-of-district bar with off-the-books interns Rodrigo and Ganymede
11PM arrive home after wife and kids are asleep
 
2013-12-02 11:04:09 AM
How are we going to survive as a nation with all the post offices that will go unnamed?
 
2013-12-02 11:05:01 AM

FlashHarry: Rincewind53: Look, I hate Congressional laziness as much as the next man, but the idea that Congressmen are on "vacation" when Congress is not in session is laughable. They almost always spend that time in their district, planning for the next session, meeting with donors, meeting with constituents, and in general doing a whole lot of work.

i'd say that 90 percent of their vacation time is spent campaigning for reelection. this is the inherent problem with election finance laws the 2-year term. .


FTFY
 
2013-12-02 11:06:51 AM

basemetal: The less they work, the less damage they can do.


let me guess... tea partier?
 
2013-12-02 11:07:38 AM

big pig peaches: How are we going to survive as a nation with all the post offices that will go unnamed?


Simple fix.  All Reagan Post Offices.  With a splash of a few Ws here and there.  Maybe one Dennis Hastert or something, in his home town.
 
2013-12-02 11:11:45 AM

Tigger: Rincewind53: Look, I hate Congressional laziness as much as the next man, but the idea that Congressmen are on "vacation" when Congress is not in session is laughable. They almost always spend that time in their district, planning for the next session, meeting with donors, meeting with constituents, and in general doing a whole lot of work. 'fundraising'.


And to be complete accurate, that's all they do when the are in session, too. What percentage of votes in the House this last year were staged simply to look good in a campaign ad? (I'm looking at you, "Repeal Obamacare" bills)
 
2013-12-02 11:12:36 AM
The 20-month shutdown of Congress next week should make 252 days vacation pale in comparison.
 
2013-12-02 11:13:47 AM

FlashHarry: basemetal: The less they work, the less damage they can do.

let me guess... tea partier?


If they are not in session, they can't pass a new law to take away our rights or do other things that screw the people. If you think only Tea Partiers think Congress in session means we get farked your nuts. 2011 NDAA, Patriot Act, FISA Court, need I go on.
 
2013-12-02 11:14:58 AM

Rincewind53: Look, I hate Congressional laziness as much as the next man, but the idea that Congressmen are on "vacation" when Congress is not in session is laughable. They almost always spend that time in their district, planning for the next session, meeting with donors, meeting with constituents, and in general doing a whole lot of work.


The problem is that "work" is pretty much 95% campaigning for the next election.
 
2013-12-02 11:15:16 AM

Marcus Aurelius: How much are we paying these worthless assholes again?

AND they get a pension?

For what?


Because it would be better if only the very rich could afford to hold office.
 
2013-12-02 11:16:15 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Well... it's not like they can get any less popular


The TeaParty caucus: Challenge accepted!
 
2013-12-02 11:16:27 AM
The good news is that eventually they will not ever show up. The bad news is........ give me a second..... Oh we might still have to pay them.

I knew there was a down side.
 
2013-12-02 11:17:15 AM

Rincewind53: Look, I hate Congressional laziness as much as the next man, but the idea that Congressmen are on "vacation" when Congress is not in session is laughable. They almost always spend that time in their district, planning for the next session, meeting with donors, meeting with constituents, and in general doing a whole lot of work.


It is my dream that, someday people in one place will be able to communicate with people in other locations to have meetings and make plans - without travel!

If it is at all workable, we could share it with members of the military so they, too, could meet with their loved ones despite being deployed - maybe children could use it to take classes - really, should such an option exist, it would change the concept of communication for everyone!

Rince? Don't help these people - "going back to my district" was a thing when the electorate were gentlemen farmers who had to oversee their estates. Most of them now have apartments in Washington and if they feel a pressing need to meet with their district members they don't need any more time off to do so than their actual district members get - and it isn't 200+ days a year.
 
2013-12-02 11:17:51 AM

basemetal: The less they work, the less damage they can do.


Yes I vote for my congressman so that they do nothing.

You're an idiot.
 
2013-12-02 11:18:25 AM
It is not like you really have to be there to object to anything Obama does, you can phone it in.
//maybe they are out refining that laser-focus on jobs?
 
2013-12-02 11:18:40 AM

Rincewind53: Look, I hate Congressional laziness as much as the next man, but the idea that Congressmen are on "vacation" when Congress is not in session is laughable. They almost always spend that time in their district, planning for the next session, meeting with donors, meeting with constituents, and in general doing a whole lot of work.


Also called raising minty do they can remain in congress and vote themselves more vacation days
 
2013-12-02 11:18:56 AM

Rincewind53: meeting with donors


Aaaannd  THERE!  You found the reason they want more time off.  In all fairness, with the level of Derp coming out of the House right now, they do less damage OUT of session than IN session, so yeah.. go ahead.  Take a few more days off....
 
2013-12-02 11:21:24 AM

Rincewind53: Tigger: Rincewind53: Look, I hate Congressional laziness as much as the next man, but the idea that Congressmen are on "vacation" when Congress is not in session is laughable. They almost always spend that time in their district, planning for the next session, meeting with donors, meeting with constituents, and in general doing a whole lot of work.
'fundraising'.

FlashHarry: i'd say that 90 percent of their vacation time is spent campaigning for reelection. this is the inherent problem with the 2-year term.

Well yes. The freshmen Congressmen spend about 30 hours a week fundraising. It's absurd and terrible.

But it's sure as hell not vacation.


Yes having to go to $100 a plate dinners is tough work. They all deserve a raise
 
2013-12-02 11:22:51 AM

FlashHarry: basemetal: The less they work, the less damage they can do.

let me guess... tea partier?


Yes. Anyone who is observant and in any small way critical of your lords and masters is a "Tea Partier". Bogga, bogga, bogga.
 
2013-12-02 11:24:50 AM

A Cave Geek: Rincewind53: meeting with donors

Aaaannd  THERE!  You found the reason they want more time off.  In all fairness, with the level of Derp coming out of the House right now, they do less damage OUT of session than IN session, so yeah.. go ahead.  Take a few more days off....


This is also BS - it is entirely possible to raise funds without taking THIS much time "off" (away from washington).
There was a time when being IN washington and, you know, doing things your voters liked, earned you funds and you didn't have to travel to kiss the feet of a few select billionaires

Looking at you with bitterness Supreme Court
 
2013-12-02 11:24:50 AM
I appreciate the BSAB title.
 
2013-12-02 11:25:41 AM
Subby is saying he wants more ACA repeal votes?
 
2013-12-02 11:27:05 AM

smells_like_meat: FlashHarry: basemetal: The less they work, the less damage they can do.

let me guess... tea partier?

Yes. Anyone who is observant and in any small way critical of your lords and masters is a "Tea Partier". Bogga, bogga, bogga.


I think that is was more his comment was grounded in an asininely simplistic view of the role of government and contains the central Tea Partier deficit of assuming that all government activity will be bad (which of course it will be with Tea Partiers in government).
 
2013-12-02 11:27:07 AM

smells_like_meat: FlashHarry: basemetal: The less they work, the less damage they can do.

let me guess... tea partier?

Yes. Anyone who is observant and in any small way critical of your lords and masters is a "Tea Partier". Bogga, bogga, bogga.


No, but? "lords and masters" is interesting - let me guess......independent? libertarian? or the ever popular "not a voter because you all are sheep-er"?
 
2013-12-02 11:27:15 AM

Rincewind53: But it's sure as hell not vacation.


it's also sure as hell not what we elected them to do. stop making excuses for their pathetic performance.
 
2013-12-02 11:28:35 AM
"We should not be judged on how many new laws we create," Boehner told CBS News' Bob Schieffer in July. "We ought to be judged on how many laws we repeal. We've got more laws than the administration could ever enforce."

So by his own metric he is a failure.

Wish to move the goalposts some more, big orange baby?
 
2013-12-02 11:29:08 AM

lilplatinum: Rincewind53: Look, I hate Congressional laziness as much as the next man, but the idea that Congressmen are on "vacation" when Congress is not in session is laughable. They almost always spend that time in their district, planning for the next session, meeting with donors, meeting with constituents, and in general doing a whole lot of work.

The problem is that "work" is pretty much 95% campaigning for the next election.


My brother worked in constituent services for our local Congressman for several years. The work of the Congressman does not stop when the actual member of Congress is out fundraising. The staff keeps things running full time. In fact,  being a Congressman is practically an executive position; you manage a staff of (potentially) dozens of people who are working to get most things done. Not to mention that members of Congress like to combine fundraising with constituent services; meet with the locals, do something for them, and get their support in return.

I'm not defending our current broken system. I'm an advocate for public campaign financing and an end to the current system. But I do like to get things right.
 
2013-12-02 11:34:58 AM

smells_like_meat: FlashHarry: basemetal: The less they work, the less damage they can do.

let me guess... tea partier?

Yes. Anyone who is observant and in any small way critical of your lords and masters is a "Tea Partier". Bogga, bogga, bogga.


Not sure what "bogga" means, but a sweeping statement like basemetal's is basically the opposite of observation or criticism.
 
2013-12-02 11:36:53 AM
Considering that these clowns do nothing but damage everything when they are in session - maybe we should give them 365 days of vacation each year.
 
2013-12-02 11:39:49 AM

Rincewind53: lilplatinum: Rincewind53: Look, I hate Congressional laziness as much as the next man, but the idea that Congressmen are on "vacation" when Congress is not in session is laughable. They almost always spend that time in their district, planning for the next session, meeting with donors, meeting with constituents, and in general doing a whole lot of work.

The problem is that "work" is pretty much 95% campaigning for the next election.

My brother worked in constituent services for our local Congressman for several years. The work of the Congressman does not stop when the actual member of Congress is out fundraising. The staff keeps things running full time. In fact,  being a Congressman is practically an executive position; you manage a staff of (potentially) dozens of people who are working to get most things done. Not to mention that members of Congress like to combine fundraising with constituent services; meet with the locals, do something for them, and get their support in return.

I'm not defending our current broken system. I'm an advocate for public campaign financing and an end to the current system. But I do like to get things right.


You know? Some people like to combine resources with neighborhood need; meet with neighbors, do something for them, earn their support.............and then get elected  - rinse, repeat for a new term.

We do not elect people to congress for them to spend more than 2/3rds of the year fundraising at events most of the locals can't afford to attend or to force smaller municipalities to hold more humble fund-raisers (at whose expense?) so Congress-person so-and-so can blow into town and extol about "up coming" items and past "well? we tried" votes and then ask for money because "next time? we are SO ready!" (as soon as I get back to that broken hellhole which we are trying so hard to fix)

I am glad you aren't defending the broken system and that (per your post) you are aware that Congressional staffers are actually the ones doing the bulk of the work.
 
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