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2013-12-02 10:22:12 AM  
[T]he word 'penis' became somewhat of a campaign slogan

Well, I guess it's better than "drill baby drill".

/ she should come to Texas and run for governor against Wendy Davis
 
2013-12-02 10:29:50 AM  
Archie comics has a CEO?
 
2013-12-02 10:30:11 AM  
Archie Comics suck.
 
2013-12-02 10:32:00 AM  
Somebody is about to learn a very expensive lesson.
 
2013-12-02 10:34:24 AM  
*Uncle
 
2013-12-02 10:34:38 AM  
Whatever you say, Tits.
 
2013-12-02 10:34:55 AM  
Mom?

/seriously, that lady looks like my mom.
 
2013-12-02 10:38:35 AM  
maybe she just likes the way penis rolls off the tongue.
 
2013-12-02 10:39:14 AM  
Her driver, Richard Johnson, was not available for comment.
 
2013-12-02 10:39:19 AM  

Earguy: Archie comics has a CEO?


While most would go "People still buy Archie comics?", the answer seems to be "yes"....

http://comicsworthreading.com/2012/03/09/archie-sales-figures-for-20 11 /
 
2013-12-02 10:41:41 AM  
So the nickname "Jughead" was a reference to his uncircumcised tally-whacker?
 
2013-12-02 10:43:01 AM  
2.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-12-02 10:43:15 AM  

oldfarthenry: So the nickname "Jughead" was a reference to his uncircumcised tally-whacker?


Archie references the shape of his bent appendage.
 
2013-12-02 10:44:48 AM  
Crazy woman needs to be removed.
 
2013-12-02 10:45:47 AM  
s.mcstatic.com
 Her? Cockacidal maniac. Ex-porn star. She's done it all. They say she starred in the world's first interracial hardcore loop: Café au lait...
 
2013-12-02 10:48:32 AM  

dletter: Earguy: Archie comics has a CEO?

While most would go "People still buy Archie comics?", the answer seems to be "yes"....

http://comicsworthreading.com/2012/03/09/archie-sales-figures-for-20 11 /


Yea, people still buy it. People who suck.
 
2013-12-02 10:48:46 AM  

dletter: Earguy: Archie comics has a CEO?

While most would go "People still buy Archie comics?", the answer seems to be "yes"....

http://comicsworthreading.com/2012/03/09/archie-sales-figures-for-20 11 /


Isn't it fascinating to see that there's this parallel universe of comic books that are still actually read and enjoyed by young people?
 
2013-12-02 10:49:47 AM  

Anonymous Bosch: dletter: Earguy: Archie comics has a CEO?

While most would go "People still buy Archie comics?", the answer seems to be "yes"....

http://comicsworthreading.com/2012/03/09/archie-sales-figures-for-20 11 /

Isn't it fascinating to see that there's this parallel universe of comic books that are still actually read and enjoyed by young people?


And you can buy at the grocery store or the Walgreens?
 
2013-12-02 10:51:57 AM  

Mrbogey: dletter: Earguy: Archie comics has a CEO?

While most would go "People still buy Archie comics?", the answer seems to be "yes"....

http://comicsworthreading.com/2012/03/09/archie-sales-figures-for-20 11 /

Yea, people still buy it. People who suck.


I think Archie typically has more compelling storylines than anything I've seen from DC or Marvel in about a decade.
 
2013-12-02 10:52:16 AM  

bdub77: oldfarthenry: So the nickname "Jughead" was a reference to his uncircumcised tally-whacker?

Archie references the shape of his bent appendage.


What about Moose?
 
2013-12-02 10:52:42 AM  
Being a white male, I'm interested to see if her defense holds up.
 
2013-12-02 10:53:00 AM  
I hate that.  "I am X.  Therefore I can behave reprehensibly and you have no recourse because you are Y."

That is not how this works.  Life is not a gender/insert minority/studies class or a social justice tumblr.  You can explain away your anti-white or whatever comments by saying, "Oh well its not a problem because you're not 'oppressed' like everyone else is by white males," but even ACCEPTING that as truth (which it isn't) you're still doing something wrong, generally being an asshole, and deserve to be punished.

Start tossing around a name like, "Disproportionate Rapist Target," for women in the office, see how THAT shiat flies.  We don't punish that kind of thing because its a woman.  We punish it because you're creating an office where the targets of your harassment can't work due to no fault of their own.  Manufacturing hatred and total discomfort in your office is a crime and a tort regardless of sex or race.
 
2013-12-02 10:54:24 AM  

airsupport: bdub77: oldfarthenry: So the nickname "Jughead" was a reference to his uncircumcised tally-whacker?

Archie references the shape of his bent appendage.

What about Moose?


The Rippin and the Tearin, due to an unfortunate genetic defect.
 
2013-12-02 10:56:36 AM  

BigMevy: Being a white male, I'm interested to see if her defense holds up.


Her defense : I have a vagina so I can do what I want.
Her problem. Having a koont doesn't excuse being a koont.
 
2013-12-02 11:00:16 AM  
In her defense, the least protected class of people (in the US) are white men under the age of 40.

/One more year until I get me some protections! YEAH!
 
2013-12-02 11:00:32 AM  

Oh_Enough_Already: The irony being that a white male who said the word penis within earshot of a female person would be summarily filed on the spot for committing ear rape.


Of course. They're not a protected class.
 
2013-12-02 11:00:42 AM  

Super_pope: I hate that.  "I am X.  Therefore I can behave reprehensibly and you have no recourse because you are Y."

That is not how this works.  Life is not a gender/insert minority/studies class or a social justice tumblr.  You can explain away your anti-white or whatever comments by saying, "Oh well its not a problem because you're not 'oppressed' like everyone else is by white males," but even ACCEPTING that as truth (which it isn't) you're still doing something wrong, generally being an asshole, and deserve to be punished.

Start tossing around a name like, "Disproportionate Rapist Target," for women in the office, see how THAT shiat flies.  We don't punish that kind of thing because its a woman.  We punish it because you're creating an office where the targets of your harassment can't work due to no fault of their own.  Manufacturing hatred and total discomfort in your office is a crime and a tort regardless of sex or race.


It's a pretty common attitude on college campuses.  "We celebrate diverse experiences!" "OK, I'll go first.  When I--"  "Shut up, oppressor!  You're a white male.  That's not diverse!  Your experiences are worthless, and we won't let you out until you acknowledge your hateful legacy and your personal responsibility for perpetuating it by merely existing!"

A parody, of course, but not far off what's said in all earnestness.
 
2013-12-02 11:01:51 AM  

Confabulat: Mrbogey: dletter: Earguy: Archie comics has a CEO?

While most would go "People still buy Archie comics?", the answer seems to be "yes"....

http://comicsworthreading.com/2012/03/09/archie-sales-figures-for-20 11 /

Yea, people still buy it. People who suck.

I think Archie typically has more compelling storylines than anything I've seen from DC or Marvel in about a decade.


That's not setting the bar very high.
 
2013-12-02 11:07:11 AM  
The dispute erupted again earlier this year, when the go-between Silberkleit selected, Samuel Levitin, filed papers in Westchester Surrogate's Court charging that she'd become unhinged - and even wanted to tart up beloved characters Betty and Veronica.

Let's not judge her too harshly, gents.
 
2013-12-02 11:07:21 AM  

Confabulat: Mrbogey: dletter: Earguy: Archie comics has a CEO?

While most would go "People still buy Archie comics?", the answer seems to be "yes"....

http://comicsworthreading.com/2012/03/09/archie-sales-figures-for-20 11 /

Yea, people still buy it. People who suck.

I think Archie typically has more compelling storylines than anything I've seen from DC or Marvel in about a decade.


Archie comics hired the woman that draws Ma3 to do a one-shot for Archie. It of course involved gender-bending.
 
2013-12-02 11:08:52 AM  

Anonymous Bosch: dletter: Earguy: Archie comics has a CEO?

While most would go "People still buy Archie comics?", the answer seems to be "yes"....

http://comicsworthreading.com/2012/03/09/archie-sales-figures-for-20 11 /

Isn't it fascinating to see that there's this parallel universe of comic books that are still actually read and enjoyed by young people?


One... I've never been really a comic book fan (even as a kid), so, I'm probably way out of my realm anyway in even discussing it.

But, I have an 8-year old daughter, and have been around her friends, around her cousins and parties with their friends, halloween parties, etc, etc.   And I don't believe I've ever run across an "Archie's" comic book at a house, heard kids talking about Archie comics, etc, anything even relating to Archie comics.  So, if it is "something" with kids in general, it is some small subgroup I've never seen (maybe you were be facetious).

At least my take on seeing those figures was there is still some comic book sub-society of adults that still really loves to buy Archie comic books.... unless I am just missing the boat on all of these 8-12 year olds who love Archie comics.
 
2013-12-02 11:09:10 AM  
My daughter likes Archie.

a) They're at the supermarket checkout line. See, want, buy. Parent thinks "a couple of bucks, it's kid appropriate(*), OK".  That strategy totally works for Archie.

b) I've taken her to comic conventions and comic stores, to try to find better comics for a girl. The "kid appropriate" sections were all Ninjago (or whatever) toy-tie-ins, Archie, or Asterix. Asterix is nicely done, though a bit dated and sexist (but not nearly as sexist as Archie). In a comic store with probably a thousand different options to choose from, there were only about three comics appropriate for a little girl.

This SUCKS. I have friends who are comic artists, too, and I rarely can find anything that's OK for a little girl.


(*) My wife and I hate, hate, HATE the stories. The girls only shop and chase boys. I don't think a single Archie edition ever passed the Bechdel test.
 
2013-12-02 11:11:19 AM  

Super_pope: I hate that.  "I am X.  Therefore I can behave reprehensibly and you have no recourse because you are Y."

That is not how this works.  Life is not a gender/insert minority/studies class or a social justice tumblr.  You can explain away your anti-white or whatever comments by saying, "Oh well its not a problem because you're not 'oppressed' like everyone else is by white males," but even ACCEPTING that as truth (which it isn't) you're still doing something wrong, generally being an asshole, and deserve to be punished.

Start tossing around a name like, "Disproportionate Rapist Target," for women in the office, see how THAT shiat flies.  We don't punish that kind of thing because its a woman.  We punish it because you're creating an office where the targets of your harassment can't work due to no fault of their own.  Manufacturing hatred and total discomfort in your office is a crime and a tort regardless of sex or race.

It is not about equal treatment under the law but special treatment under the law. For example:



It is Part of Liberalism 101

"A RACIST: A racist is one who is both privileged and socialized on the basis of race by a white supremacist (racist) system. The term applies to all white people (i.e., people of European descent) living in the United States, regardless of class, gender, religion, culture or sexuality. By this definition, people of color cannot be racists, because as peoples within the U.S. system, they do not have the power to back up their prejudices, hostilities, or acts of discrimination. (This does not deny the existence of such prejudices, hostilities, acts of rage or discrimination.)" - Page 3
 
2013-12-02 11:14:19 AM  

StopLurkListen: The girls only shop and chase boys.


And people complain comics are far-fetched.
 
2013-12-02 11:16:03 AM  

hasty ambush: It is Part of Liberalism 101


How is a dorm guide to some college in Delaware "Part of Liberalism 101"?

Are you the sort of dimwit who thinks everything who isn't what you believe is all a big hive-mind group?

Sounds like you are exactly that sort of dimwit.
 
2013-12-02 11:16:11 AM  
When I hear about the Archie comics, all I can think of is Zack (from BBT) at the comic book store when he gets "all set for his weekend number 2's"
 
2013-12-02 11:21:35 AM  

hasty ambush: Super_pope: I hate that.  "I am X.  Therefore I can behave reprehensibly and you have no recourse because you are Y."

That is not how this works.  Life is not a gender/insert minority/studies class or a social justice tumblr.  You can explain away your anti-white or whatever comments by saying, "Oh well its not a problem because you're not 'oppressed' like everyone else is by white males," but even ACCEPTING that as truth (which it isn't) you're still doing something wrong, generally being an asshole, and deserve to be punished.

Start tossing around a name like, "Disproportionate Rapist Target," for women in the office, see how THAT shiat flies.  We don't punish that kind of thing because its a woman.  We punish it because you're creating an office where the targets of your harassment can't work due to no fault of their own.  Manufacturing hatred and total discomfort in your office is a crime and a tort regardless of sex or race.
It is not about equal treatment under the law but special treatment under the law. For example:

It is Part of Liberalism 101

"A RACIST: A racist is one who is both privileged and socialized on the basis of race by a white supremacist (racist) system. The term applies to all white people (i.e., people of European descent) living in the United States, regardless of class, gender, religion, culture or sexuality. By this definition, people of color cannot be racists, because as peoples within the U.S. system, they do not have the power to back up their prejudices, hostilities, or acts of discrimination. (This does not deny the existence of such prejudices, hostilities, acts of rage or discrimination.)" - Page 3


Fark off - Dr. Shakti Butler did not speak for "liberals" in 2007 and he/she doesn't now.

/penis
 
2013-12-02 11:22:03 AM  
www.movieactors.com
 
2013-12-02 11:23:02 AM  

Mrbogey: Archie Comics suck.


It's refreshing to know that there are actually things we agree on.
 
2013-12-02 11:23:43 AM  

hasty ambush: "A RACIST: A racist is one who is both privileged and socialized on the basis of race by a white supremacist (racist) system. The term applies to all white people (i.e., people of European descent) living in the United States, regardless of class, gender, religion, culture or sexuality. By this definition, people of color cannot be racists, because as peoples within the U.S. system, they do not have the power to back up their prejudices, hostilities, or acts of discrimination. (This does not deny the existence of such prejudices, hostilities, acts of rage or discrimination.)" - Page 3


One potentially valid interpretation, but not the generally accepted definition for most people in this country.  I believe it only gets traction within the various Social Justice Warrior (blogger) circles because it provides the comfortable illusion of intrinsic gravitas to balance out the fact that... yeah in this society its just a big advantage to be white, no doubt.

Anyway, my understanding is you don't have to be harassing a protected class to be guilty of harassment and creating a hostile work environment.  Which basically means she's arguing perpendicular to the law and is in for a big collision if she tries to present that crap as a defense.  Like I said, this is not Women's Studies.  Your personal definition of what is and isn't discrimination that you think all of us should use (which happens to give you the most agency and leverage in any discussion concerning whether or not you're doing something wrong) is moot, you freaking loser.
 
2013-12-02 11:24:57 AM  

Confabulat: StopLurkListen: The girls only shop and chase boys.

And people complain comics are far-fetched.


http://zitaspacegirl.com/
Sadly, there's only a couple of these.

www.whiteoliphaunt.com

I'd love recommendations for similar girl-oriented comics.
 
2013-12-02 11:26:43 AM  
hasty ambush:


And just after that refresher, I have to see your tired, hackneyed, obvious trolling.
 
2013-12-02 11:31:44 AM  
She wanted to "tart up" Betty and Veronica?

Hmm. I'd penis that.
 
2013-12-02 11:33:34 AM  

Super_pope: I hate that.  "I am X.  Therefore I can behave reprehensibly and you have no recourse because you are Y."

That is not how this works.  Life is not a gender/insert minority/studies class or a social justice tumblr.  You can explain away your anti-white or whatever comments by saying, "Oh well its not a problem because you're not 'oppressed' like everyone else is by white males," but even ACCEPTING that as truth (which it isn't) you're still doing something wrong, generally being an asshole, and deserve to be punished.

Start tossing around a name like, "Disproportionate Rapist Target," for women in the office, see how THAT shiat flies.  We don't punish that kind of thing because its a woman.  We punish it because you're creating an office where the targets of your harassment can't work due to no fault of their own.  Manufacturing hatred and total discomfort in your office is a crime and a tort regardless of sex or race.


You're almost right.  "gender/insert minority/studies" classes don't work like that 99% of the time, despite what you may have heard in internet rants about libs.

I can't speak for tumblr.  Tumblr's a mess.
 
2013-12-02 11:34:59 AM  

airsupport: bdub77: oldfarthenry: So the nickname "Jughead" was a reference to his uncircumcised tally-whacker?

Archie references the shape of his bent appendage.

What about Moose?


He and Midge broke up. It was a real tear-jerker.
 
2013-12-02 11:36:24 AM  

JohnAnnArbor: Super_pope: I hate that.  "I am X.  Therefore I can behave reprehensibly and you have no recourse because you are Y."

That is not how this works.  Life is not a gender/insert minority/studies class or a social justice tumblr.  You can explain away your anti-white or whatever comments by saying, "Oh well its not a problem because you're not 'oppressed' like everyone else is by white males," but even ACCEPTING that as truth (which it isn't) you're still doing something wrong, generally being an asshole, and deserve to be punished.

Start tossing around a name like, "Disproportionate Rapist Target," for women in the office, see how THAT shiat flies.  We don't punish that kind of thing because its a woman.  We punish it because you're creating an office where the targets of your harassment can't work due to no fault of their own.  Manufacturing hatred and total discomfort in your office is a crime and a tort regardless of sex or race.

It's a pretty common attitude on college campuses.  "We celebrate diverse experiences!" "OK, I'll go first.  When I--"  "Shut up, oppressor!  You're a white male.  That's not diverse!  Your experiences are worthless, and we won't let you out until you acknowledge your hateful legacy and your personal responsibility for perpetuating it by merely existing!"

A parody, of course, but not far off what's said in all earnestness.


So damn true. There is no stupidity more galling than the smugness of a stupid person who believes they've figured something out, but in reality are only falling to a deeper level of stupidity.
 
2013-12-02 11:39:44 AM  

Mr. Holmes: JohnAnnArbor: Super_pope: I hate that.  "I am X.  Therefore I can behave reprehensibly and you have no recourse because you are Y."

That is not how this works.  Life is not a gender/insert minority/studies class or a social justice tumblr.  You can explain away your anti-white or whatever comments by saying, "Oh well its not a problem because you're not 'oppressed' like everyone else is by white males," but even ACCEPTING that as truth (which it isn't) you're still doing something wrong, generally being an asshole, and deserve to be punished.

Start tossing around a name like, "Disproportionate Rapist Target," for women in the office, see how THAT shiat flies.  We don't punish that kind of thing because its a woman.  We punish it because you're creating an office where the targets of your harassment can't work due to no fault of their own.  Manufacturing hatred and total discomfort in your office is a crime and a tort regardless of sex or race.

It's a pretty common attitude on college campuses.  "We celebrate diverse experiences!" "OK, I'll go first.  When I--"  "Shut up, oppressor!  You're a white male.  That's not diverse!  Your experiences are worthless, and we won't let you out until you acknowledge your hateful legacy and your personal responsibility for perpetuating it by merely existing!"

A parody, of course, but not far off what's said in all earnestness.

So damn true. There is no stupidity more galling than the smugness of a stupid person who believes they've figured something out, but in reality are only falling to a deeper level of stupidity.


20 year olds are dumb.  Who knew?

Can we please stop taking their dumbness as evidence of what the left wing thinks?
 
2013-12-02 11:39:46 AM  
I'd hit it like Betty...

www.comicbitsonline.com



media2.intoday.in


/Has a thing for older women.
//[ Don't judge me. ]
 
2013-12-02 11:42:09 AM  

Dafatone: Can we please stop taking their dumbness as evidence of what the left wing thinks?


Remember, American right-wingers are terrifed of that "College of Liberal Arts and Sciences."
 
2013-12-02 11:43:09 AM  

Super_pope: Anyway, my understanding is you don't have to be harassing a protected class to be guilty of harassment and creating a hostile work environment.  Which basically means she's arguing perpendicular to the law and is in for a big collision if she tries to present that crap as a defense.  Like I said, this is not Women's Studies.  Your personal definition of what is and isn't discrimination that you think all of us should use (which happens to give you the most agency and leverage in any discussion concerning whether or not you're doing something wrong) is moot, you freaking loser.


Yeah. I couldn't believe the article was true and figured they had to be misquoting the argument, so I went and actually read the motion and response (available online here, just do a search for Silberkleit as defendant). Her lawyer really is that much of an idiot, and states:
"Moreover, the Complaint does not allege that Plaintiff Jim Paget is not a white male, nor can it. White males are not a member of a protected class under this section of the HRL."

And what does HRL §296 say?
1. It shall be an unlawful discriminatory practice: (a) For an employer or licensing agency, because of an individual's age, race, creed, color, national origin, sexual orientation, military status, sex, disability, predisposing genetic characteristics, marital status, or domestic violence victim status, to refuse to hire or employ or to bar or to discharge from employment such individual or to discriminate against such individual in compensation or in terms, conditions or privileges of employment.

It doesn't specify "non-white" or "non-male". Just that if employment discrimination is based on color or sex, then it's illegal... same as the corresponding federal statutes and the ones in every other state. Makes you wonder how her lawyer ever passed the bar.
 
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