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(WFTV Orlando)   Gunman robs grocery store teeming with customers. You can't tell me a single one of those people didn't have a gun on them and could have averted the robbery   (wftv.com) divider line 83
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2013-12-02 10:04:01 AM  
Call the Cobra.
 
2013-12-02 10:04:20 AM  
gramma fail, window lickmitter
 
2013-12-02 10:05:45 AM  
Because a gunman getting away with some cash and no one getting shot is such an awful outcome for this scenario.  If only there would have been a brave citizen to introduce some bullets to the equation.
 
2013-12-02 10:07:03 AM  
I am supposed to do the store owner's job for him, gratis?
 
2013-12-02 10:07:38 AM  
Maybe there were several armed people there, and they all judged that they could not intervene without putting other people at risk.

Yes, even in Florida.
 
2013-12-02 10:09:09 AM  
Well, tardmitter, I know it's gauche to RTFA, but the robber simply handed the manager a note and followed him to the office where he then robbed him.  The entire Redneck 87th Swamp Infantry Militia Division could have been shopping there at the time and not noticed a thing.
 
2013-12-02 10:09:18 AM  

Gratch: Because a gunman getting away with some cash and no one getting shot is such an awful outcome for this scenario.  If only there would have been a brave citizen to introduce some bullets to the equation.


story could be worse, it could have ended with the guy apprehended

/the world needs more smart heroes, not dumb ones
//anyone who wants to be the dumb hero, go nuts, just don't get anyone caught in your antics
///end rant
 
2013-12-02 10:09:23 AM  
If someone didn't have a clean shot, they didn't have a clean shot. Whatevs.

On an aside, at least the anti-CC talking point moved away from "zomg the streets will run red with blood!!!"
 
2013-12-02 10:11:53 AM  
Ground-standing in aisle three!
 
2013-12-02 10:13:15 AM  
Maybe they saw an opportunity to grab a few items for themselves?

/i keed i keed
 
2013-12-02 10:13:22 AM  
I always carry.  Unless bullets start flying I'll be perfectly happy letting him take some money.
 
2013-12-02 10:13:38 AM  

CivicMindedFive: Well, tardmitter, I know it's gauche to RTFA, but the robber simply handed the manager a note and followed him to the office where he then robbed him.  The entire Redneck 87th Swamp Infantry Militia Division could have been shopping there at the time and not noticed a thing.


Pretty much this. The robber had a plan, and stuck with it. I'm sure no one in the store knew what was happening at the time, and most probably did not know even after it was over.
 
2013-12-02 10:14:12 AM  
Apparently George Zimmerman is in Texas, wearing an ironic hoddie, guarding the Skittles aisle when he's not at his other job selling coffins and clogging the toilet.

www.washingtonpost.com
 
2013-12-02 10:14:26 AM  

Gratch: Because a gunman getting away with some cash and no one getting shot is such an awful outcome for this scenario.  If only there would have been a brave citizen to introduce some bullets to the equation.


Aaand the trollmitter gets their first bite!

(don't dance for the trolls...)
 
2013-12-02 10:15:01 AM  

CivicMindedFive: Well, tardmitter, I know it's gauche to RTFA, but the robber simply handed the manager a note and followed him to the office where he then robbed him.  The entire Redneck 87th Swamp Infantry Militia Division could have been shopping there at the time and not noticed a thing.


This, and there's also a difference between someone having a gun and someone being in a position to use the tool to prevent a crime rather than making the situation more dangerous for everybody.

Most CCP holders won't even think about drawing unless someone's about to die or preventing the crime is basically a sure thing.  They don't just go waving them around anytime it might potentially be justifiable.  For one thing that's actually illegal, for the other it's about on par with getting your drivers' license and then driving all over sidewalks responsibility-wise.
 
2013-12-02 10:16:54 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: CivicMindedFive: Well, tardmitter, I know it's gauche to RTFA, but the robber simply handed the manager a note and followed him to the office where he then robbed him.  The entire Redneck 87th Swamp Infantry Militia Division could have been shopping there at the time and not noticed a thing.

Pretty much this. The robber had a plan, and stuck with it. I'm sure no one in the store knew what was happening at the time, and most probably did not know even after it was over.


There comes a point when you have to stop blaming the submitters and start blaming the admins for green lighting retarded troll headlines for click bait which traffics into more money for Drew.
 
2013-12-02 10:16:56 AM  
As the hubbub of 9/11 dies away, the heroism that we all felt we'd exhibit in the face of danger is dissolving back into the self-centered apathy of pre-9/11 attitudes.

I'd wager that if a terrorist tried to hijack a plane today that not only would the hijack be successful, but none of the passengers would stand up and fight. After 13 years of pretending to be brave, heroism fatigue is inevitably setting in.

So that's why no one did anything, subby. They were all just as happy to leave with their lives.
 
2013-12-02 10:18:51 AM  
"The dog did track back around behind Albertson's and the track was lost, which leads us believe he did have a vehicle nearby," said Pelton.

This is one of those master criminals that think of everything. They plan in detail and leave nothing to chance. Normal weapons won't stop these criminals. \
 
2013-12-02 10:19:53 AM  

croesius: Gratch: Because a gunman getting away with some cash and no one getting shot is such an awful outcome for this scenario.  If only there would have been a brave citizen to introduce some bullets to the equation.

Aaand the trollmitter gets their first bite!

(don't dance for the trolls...)


i42.tinypic.com
 
2013-12-02 10:22:11 AM  
You can't tell me a single one of those people didn't have a gun on them and could have averted the robbery

Probably not a legal one, anyway.
 
2013-12-02 10:22:32 AM  
Frank N Stein


If someone didn't have a clean shot, they didn't have a clean shot. Whatevs.

On an aside, at least the anti-CC talking point moved away from "zomg the streets will run red with blood!!!"

Today is the 2nd. "blood on the streets *sob" is for odd days.

Moon bats don't let facts get in the way of their emotional ravings.
 
2013-12-02 10:22:47 AM  
"I'll be taking these Huggies, and whatever cash you got in the drawer."


"Son, you got a panty on your head."
 
2013-12-02 10:24:34 AM  
Bad guy gets away with some money, store's insurance company makes a frowny face, nobody killed by stray bullets fired by panicky bystanders. Works for me.

If you're an ordinary person with heroic tendencies and you want to die for a corporation, why go to the grocery store? Just join the army like everyone else.
 
2013-12-02 10:25:22 AM  
The reason to carry a weapon is to protect yourself or your loved ones in the face of immanent danger. The reason to carry a weapon is NOT so that you can be a vigilante taking on every injustice you come across.
 
2013-12-02 10:25:24 AM  
It drives me nuts when the term gunman is used to describe anyone who is in possession of a firearm.  If they're not shooting people, they're not gunmen.  That term being thrown around lightly can escalate a situation waaaay beyond what it needs to be.  In this case, the guy is an armed robber, not a gunman.  Nor is that guy who has a legal concealed carry permit a gunman.  Nor is a police officer who is carrying a service weapon a gunman.  Journalists really need a lesson on when it is and isn't appropriate to use certain terms.
 
2013-12-02 10:25:37 AM  

belome: I always carry.  Unless bullets start flying I'll be perfectly happy letting him take some money.


This. Money isnt worth killing someone over.

Its not like the guy broke into someobe's home.
 
2013-12-02 10:25:53 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: As the hubbub of 9/11 dies away, the heroism that we all felt we'd exhibit in the face of danger is dissolving back into the self-centered apathy of pre-9/11 attitudes.

I'd wager that if a terrorist tried to hijack a plane today that not only would the hijack be successful, but none of the passengers would stand up and fight. After 13 years of pretending to be brave, heroism fatigue is inevitably setting in.

So that's why no one did anything, subby. They were all just as happy to leave with their lives.


Best answer yet.  Extra Fark credits given for not having read the article.  Monday morning reading is for pusses anyway.  And people who aren't ready to start working yet...
 
2013-12-02 10:26:36 AM  
Ha, and why is that my problem?

/With great power comes great responsibility
 
2013-12-02 10:28:33 AM  
To be fair, the grocery store was full of Farkers and Internet Tough Guys, and they'd be in trouble with their mommas if they weren't home in 26 minutes with the Preparation H.

/WTF???
//what's with the lame articles getting greenlit?
 
2013-12-02 10:28:42 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: As the hubbub of 9/11 dies away, the heroism that we all felt we'd exhibit in the face of danger is dissolving back into the self-centered apathy of pre-9/11 attitudes.

I'd wager that if a terrorist tried to hijack a plane today that not only would the hijack be successful, but none of the passengers would stand up and fight. After 13 years of pretending to be brave, heroism fatigue is inevitably setting in.

So that's why no one did anything, subby. They were all just as happy to leave with their lives.


FAIL
1. You underestimate a lot of Americans.
2. If anyone was armed, they were most likely unaware, due to the discreetness of the criminal, and/or were in a different part of the store.
3. So what would you do if you saw it go down?
4. Submitter is a troll.

That is all.
 
2013-12-02 10:31:45 AM  
Perhaps because he was quietly robbing the manager after he made a cash pickup. Even if I was armed and witnessed this happening he's not robbing customers or threatening everyone.
 
2013-12-02 10:33:14 AM  

Jim_Callahan: Most CCP holders won't even think about drawing unless someone's about to die or preventing the crime is basically a sure thing.  They don't just go waving them around anytime it might potentially be justifiable.  For one thing that's actually illegal, for the other it's about on par with getting your drivers' license and then driving all over sidewalks responsibility-wise.


Eh, using a firearm in the prevention of a felony is often a legal use of firearms.
 
2013-12-02 10:34:28 AM  

Harry Freakstorm: "The dog did track back around behind Albertson's and the track was lost, which leads us believe he did have a vehicle nearby," said Pelton.

This is one of those master criminals that think of everything. They plan in detail and leave nothing to chance. Normal weapons won't stop these criminals. \


I chuckled at that too.

"... an automobile or possibly some kind of advanced flying contraption, like a jetpack or magical flying carpet."
 
2013-12-02 10:35:36 AM  

Gratch: Because a gunman getting away with some cash and no one getting shot is such an awful outcome for this scenario.  If only there would have been a brave citizen to introduce some bullets to the equation.


Or the police.  They shoot armed robbers just as dead.  I'm okay with it, either way.
 
2013-12-02 10:38:21 AM  
The United Food and Commercial Workings International Union requires all rescues to be from card-carrying members of the Vigilantes Union International, and they need to be paid scale.  Albertson's, having failed to previously work out a deal with the Vigilantes Union International, made their own bed in this matter.
 
2013-12-02 10:39:39 AM  

stevarooni: Eh, using a firearm in the prevention of a felony is often a legal use of firearms.


But you're escalating an armed robbery into a potential bloodbath.  If you start firing, the robber, all nervous and wired, might not know who is firing and just spray bullets everywhere.  EVEN if you plug him multiple times.  (Do you check to see he has no vest?)

Too risky.
 
2013-12-02 10:43:46 AM  

ReapTheChaos: The reason to carry a weapon is to protect yourself or your loved ones in the face of immanent danger. The reason to carry a weapon is NOT so that you can be a vigilante taking on every injustice you come across.


^Smart poster right here.

Oh, and another thing: You guys in the armoured cars? Those 20-year-old S&W revolvers arent there to protect the money. Fark the money. The money belongs to a company that's paying another company to move it around, and if it goes missing their insurance will fight it out. You aren't there to die for someone else's insured profit, and you probably aren't ready to go the rest of your days knowing you killed some 20-year-old tweaker to protect a corporate bankbook. Your gun is there to protect you from the bad guys just in case they figure they need to hurt you before they get to stealing your current boss's money. Fark 'em all.
 
2013-12-02 10:46:28 AM  

Frank N Stein: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: CivicMindedFive: Well, tardmitter, I know it's gauche to RTFA, but the robber simply handed the manager a note and followed him to the office where he then robbed him.  The entire Redneck 87th Swamp Infantry Militia Division could have been shopping there at the time and not noticed a thing.

Pretty much this. The robber had a plan, and stuck with it. I'm sure no one in the store knew what was happening at the time, and most probably did not know even after it was over.

There comes a point when you have to stop blaming the submitters and start blaming the admins for green lighting retarded troll headlines for click bait which traffics into more money for Drew.


Sounds like the admins are just doing their jobs.
 
2013-12-02 10:49:46 AM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: Maybe there were several armed people there, and they all judged that they could not intervene without putting other people at risk.

Yes, even in Florida.


Unpossible. All gun owners are irresponsible, violent, mentally unstable maniacs just itching for an excuse to blow someone's head off, preferably in the most dangerous and reckless manner possible. Don't you ever read Fark gun threads?
 
2013-12-02 10:49:59 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: As the hubbub of 9/11 dies away, the heroism that we all felt we'd exhibit in the face of danger is dissolving back into the self-centered apathy of pre-9/11 attitudes.

I'd wager that if a terrorist tried to hijack a plane today that not only would the hijack be successful, but none of the passengers would stand up and fight. After 13 years of pretending to be brave, heroism fatigue is inevitably setting in.

So that's why no one did anything, subby. They were all just as happy to leave with their lives.


==============

This ex-Marine doesn't agree with you.  Then again, he's a Marine.  Once a Marine, always a Marine.............and stupid, always stupid.    http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2013/11/man_carried_gun_into_garden_ s tate_plaza_to_help_catch_shooter_report_says.html
 
2013-12-02 10:50:17 AM  
Stand your ground?
 
2013-12-02 10:51:18 AM  

Fissile: AverageAmericanGuy: As the hubbub of 9/11 dies away, the heroism that we all felt we'd exhibit in the face of danger is dissolving back into the self-centered apathy of pre-9/11 attitudes.

I'd wager that if a terrorist tried to hijack a plane today that not only would the hijack be successful, but none of the passengers would stand up and fight. After 13 years of pretending to be brave, heroism fatigue is inevitably setting in.

So that's why no one did anything, subby. They were all just as happy to leave with their lives.

==============

This ex-Marine doesn't agree with you.  Then again, he's a Marine.  Once a Marine, always a Marine.............and stupid, always stupid.    http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2013/11/man_carried_gun_into_garden_ s tate_plaza_to_help_catch_shooter_report_says.html


There's no accounting for delusional psychopaths.
 
2013-12-02 10:55:35 AM  
Oh come on subby, of course there were probably several. They had to rush home to change their drawers.
 
2013-12-02 10:57:13 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: As the hubbub of 9/11 dies away, the heroism that we all felt we'd exhibit in the face of danger is dissolving back into the self-centered apathy of pre-9/11 attitudes.

I'd wager that if a terrorist tried to hijack a plane today that not only would the hijack be successful, but none of the passengers would stand up and fight. After 13 years of pretending to be brave, heroism fatigue is inevitably setting in.


American's are a dopey sleepy lot, but once awakened, our learning curve is steep.I would bet against you.
 
2013-12-02 11:00:52 AM  
Maybe the robber was not wearing a hoodie.
 
2013-12-02 11:03:20 AM  

jakomo002: stevarooni: Eh, using a firearm in the prevention of a felony is often a legal use of firearms.

But you're escalating an armed robbery into a potential bloodbath.  If you start firing, the robber, all nervous and wired, might not know who is firing and just spray bullets everywhere.  EVEN if you plug him multiple times.  (Do you check to see he has no vest?)

Too risky.


Does he have a vest on his head?  Only one shot needed.  Probably still a bloodbath, though.
 
2013-12-02 11:05:02 AM  

BitwiseShift: Apparently George Zimmerman


Zimmermanned!
 
2013-12-02 11:06:53 AM  

The more you eat the more you fart: Money isnt worth killing someone over.


Tell that to the guy robbing the joint with a gun.
 
2013-12-02 11:08:10 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: happy to leave with their lives.


thank god?
 
2013-12-02 11:09:35 AM  
Do I sense some trollmittin'?

The article never indicated that any customers even knew there was  robbery taking place. I won't point out the rest of the derp in your assumption because people like you only comprehend what fits your agenda.
 
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