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(NBA)   Remember the once mighty and powerful NBA Eastern Conference? Well, let's stop and count the number of teams playing above .500   (nba.com) divider line 24
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2013-12-02 07:58:38 AM  
Since when was the Eastern Conference mighty and powerful
 
2013-12-02 07:59:17 AM  

tbaughm: Since when was the Eastern Conference mighty and powerful


The 90s?
 
2013-12-02 08:06:50 AM  
"parity"
 
2013-12-02 08:34:45 AM  
The Atlantic standings are hilarious.
 
2013-12-02 08:36:07 AM  
Wizards are almost there. That 8 spot is looking possible.
 
2013-12-02 08:42:06 AM  
Remember when basketball actually mattered in the 90's?

Good times......
 
2013-12-02 09:02:33 AM  
We are in the right division. It's an amazing division. If you have three or four days off, you probably move up to first place. The key in our division is not playing right now.

Celtics coach Doc Rivers, January 2007.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
 
2013-12-02 09:05:56 AM  

carnifex2005: The Atlantic standings are hilarious.


I don't think I've seen a division that sad since the old NHL Southwest division.

/or even the NFC West circa 2010
 
2013-12-02 09:43:30 AM  

mainstreet62: Remember when basketball actually mattered in the 90's?

Good times......


Mattered?  That's a curious word.
 
2013-12-02 09:55:48 AM  

Leader O'Cola: mainstreet62: Remember when basketball actually mattered in the 90's?

Good times......

Mattered?  That's a curious word.


Mattered, was interesting, piqued a casual fan's interest, whatever is a step above apathy for individuals, I suppose.

Watching Michael Jordan play made me temporarily forget about some dark times in my life.
 
2013-12-02 10:22:14 AM  

mainstreet62: Leader O'Cola: mainstreet62: Remember when basketball actually mattered in the 90's?

Good times......

Mattered?  That's a curious word.

Mattered, was interesting, piqued a casual fan's interest, whatever is a step above apathy for individuals, I suppose.

Watching Michael Jordan play made me temporarily forget about some dark times in my life.


At the risk of sounding like a dick, that may have less to do with basketball in the 90's and more to do with whatever you were going through in the 90's.
 
2013-12-02 10:28:55 AM  
Well the Pacers still have the best record, so that's really all I care about.
 
2013-12-02 10:55:37 AM  

redmid17: Well the Pacers still have the best record, so that's really all I care about.


And I dont think it's because they play in the Eastern Conference. I believe they would destroy most teams in the West on a nightly basis as well.  If they played in the West they might be 12-3 worst case scenario.
/Not and  Indiana Fan, but I am a fan of Bird
//Go Sixers... get the #1 pick!
 
2013-12-02 11:19:47 AM  
The Eastern Conference has been bad for a long, long time.  It's why you had pretty bad, or one-dimensional, teams making the Finals in the early 2000s like Iverson's Sixers and Jason Kidd's Nets.  Even when Jordan was with the Bulls in the 90s, the next best teams were overwhelmingly in the West, with some exceptions, of course (Pacers, briefly, and the Knicks).  It was to MJ's huge advantage he didn't have to face Robinson and Olajuwon four times a year instead of twice.

There have been crap-ass teams in the West -- Sacramento and the Clippers were poster children for utter futility.  But there have been more in the East who are just not even mediocre, just completely worthless.  For years.  I wonder why they even have fans.  The Bucks, the Raptors, the Wizards, the Sixers, the Bobcats.  Four automatic wins for the best Eastern teams, two automatic wins for the best Western teams.
 
2013-12-02 11:36:01 AM  

neaorin: We are in the right division. It's an amazing division. If you have three or four days off, you probably move up to first place. The key in our division is not playing right now.

Celtics coach Doc Rivers, January 2007.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.


The only winning move is not to play.
 
2013-12-02 11:45:12 AM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: The Eastern Conference has been bad for a long, long time.  It's why you had pretty bad, or one-dimensional, teams making the Finals in the early 2000s like Iverson's Sixers and Jason Kidd's Nets.  Even when Jordan was with the Bulls in the 90s, the next best teams were overwhelmingly in the West, with some exceptions, of course (Pacers, briefly, and the Knicks).  It was to MJ's huge advantage he didn't have to face Robinson and Olajuwon four times a year instead of twice.

There have been crap-ass teams in the West -- Sacramento and the Clippers were poster children for utter futility.  But there have been more in the East who are just not even mediocre, just completely worthless.  For years.  I wonder why they even have fans.  The Bucks, the Raptors, the Wizards, the Sixers, the Bobcats.  Four automatic wins for the best Eastern teams, two automatic wins for the best Western teams.


From top to bottom, the west has been better for a long time, but there have been more than a few seasons recently where the best of the East matched up with the best of the West.
 
2013-12-02 11:55:36 AM  

redmid17: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: The Eastern Conference has been bad for a long, long time.  It's why you had pretty bad, or one-dimensional, teams making the Finals in the early 2000s like Iverson's Sixers and Jason Kidd's Nets.  Even when Jordan was with the Bulls in the 90s, the next best teams were overwhelmingly in the West, with some exceptions, of course (Pacers, briefly, and the Knicks).  It was to MJ's huge advantage he didn't have to face Robinson and Olajuwon four times a year instead of twice.

There have been crap-ass teams in the West -- Sacramento and the Clippers were poster children for utter futility.  But there have been more in the East who are just not even mediocre, just completely worthless.  For years.  I wonder why they even have fans.  The Bucks, the Raptors, the Wizards, the Sixers, the Bobcats.  Four automatic wins for the best Eastern teams, two automatic wins for the best Western teams.

From top to bottom, the west has been better for a long time, but there have been more than a few seasons recently where the best of the East matched up with the best of the West.


Yes, my point is rather that, even when the East has won the championship, it is often the West with the better depth of superb teams.  Indicative of this is that the Jordan Bulls faced the Lakers (Magic), the Blazers (Drexler), Phoenix (Barkley), Seattle (Kemp/Payton), and the Jazz twice (Stockton/Malone).  In between you had Olajuwon's Rockets win twice.  The superstars of the era were overwhelmingly in the West -- the East only had Reggie Miller and Ewing.
 
2013-12-02 12:08:37 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: redmid17: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: The Eastern Conference has been bad for a long, long time.  It's why you had pretty bad, or one-dimensional, teams making the Finals in the early 2000s like Iverson's Sixers and Jason Kidd's Nets.  Even when Jordan was with the Bulls in the 90s, the next best teams were overwhelmingly in the West, with some exceptions, of course (Pacers, briefly, and the Knicks).  It was to MJ's huge advantage he didn't have to face Robinson and Olajuwon four times a year instead of twice.

There have been crap-ass teams in the West -- Sacramento and the Clippers were poster children for utter futility.  But there have been more in the East who are just not even mediocre, just completely worthless.  For years.  I wonder why they even have fans.  The Bucks, the Raptors, the Wizards, the Sixers, the Bobcats.  Four automatic wins for the best Eastern teams, two automatic wins for the best Western teams.

From top to bottom, the west has been better for a long time, but there have been more than a few seasons recently where the best of the East matched up with the best of the West.

Yes, my point is rather that, even when the East has won the championship, it is often the West with the better depth of superb teams.  Indicative of this is that the Jordan Bulls faced the Lakers (Magic), the Blazers (Drexler), Phoenix (Barkley), Seattle (Kemp/Payton), and the Jazz twice (Stockton/Malone).  In between you had Olajuwon's Rockets win twice.  The superstars of the era were overwhelmingly in the West -- the East only had Reggie Miller and Ewing.


Well that's true if you leave out Shaq, Nique, Penny, Motumbo, Hill, Zo, pre-back injury LJ, and Pippen (obviously didn't play him). The west was definitely better and had better players -- Dana Barros and Tyrone Hill making the 1995 East All star team is evidence of that -- but you don't need to make it sound like the East was a bunch of JV teams without any good players. MJ's presence *in* the Eastern Conference probably influenced a lot of players' decision to go or stay in the western conference. They weren't going to make the finals as long as MJ was playing.
 
2013-12-02 02:16:53 PM  

mainstreet62: Leader O'Cola: mainstreet62: Remember when basketball actually mattered in the 90's?

Good times......

Mattered?  That's a curious word.

Mattered, was interesting, piqued a casual fan's interest, whatever is a step above apathy for individuals, I suppose.

Watching Michael Jordan play made me temporarily forget about some dark times in my life.


Yeah, that would be perception bias: the mistaken assumption that other people share your viewpoints and opinions. I hope those dark times are behind you; if they are not you might want to check out the NBA - there's some very good hoops out there.


redmid17: From top to bottom, the west has been better for a long time, but there have been more than a few seasons recently where the best of the East matched up with the best of the West.


With a few exceptions, there are usually good teams atop each conference each year, and usually a disaster or two at the bottom. The issue is really the 6-10 slots. Over the past ten full seasons (exlcuding the lockout year of 2012) to get an 8th seed you've needed to average 39.2 wins in the east and 45.7 wins in the west. 7 of the last eleven eastern conference 8th seeds had losing records; the last western team to make the playoffs below .500 were the 1997 Clippers.

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: There have been crap-ass teams in the West -- Sacramento and the Clippers were poster children for utter futility.  But there have been more in the East who are just not even mediocre, just completely worthless.  For years.  I wonder why they even have fans.  The Bucks, the Raptors, the Wizards, the Sixers, the Bobcats.  Four automatic wins for the best Eastern teams, two automatic wins for the best Western teams.


With all the issues Philly has had over the last two seasons it's easy to forget they've won ten playoff games over the last five years. The Bucks aren't at that level - they have won 3 playoff games in two trips over the last five seasons
 
2013-12-02 05:48:19 PM  
And the Nuggets get the Knicks' first-round pick next year. Hell-o, lottery pick in this upcoming draft class!

/Melo: The trade that keeps on giving (to Denver)
 
2013-12-02 06:20:20 PM  

snake_beater: carnifex2005: The Atlantic standings are hilarious.

I don't think I've seen a division that sad since the old NHL Southwest division.

/or even the NFC West circa 2010


Have you seen the Metro division this year? (ok, they're a bit better now but until last week the only had one team over .500)
 
2013-12-02 06:40:22 PM  
Look on the bright side, though, the West this year might be the strongest conference ever. Someone on Grantland compared it to the Hunger Games and I can't say I disagree. Basically every game that doesn't involve Utah or Sacramento is worth watching, and Sactown has Boogie, who is worth the time to watch all on his own. It just sucks that I have to live in Florida now and stay up late to watch it...
 
2013-12-02 08:33:20 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste:  But there have been more in the East who are just not even mediocre, just completely worthless.  For years.  I wonder why they even have fans.  The Bucks, the Raptors, the Wizards, the Sixers, the Bobcats.  Four automatic wins for the best Eastern teams, two automatic wins for the best Western teams.


Shut your whore mouth.  You see what a difference Al Jefferson makes this year, just wait til the purple and teal comes next year.
 
2013-12-02 10:12:41 PM  

ddam: Have you seen the Metro division this year? (ok, they're a bit better now but until last week the only had one team over .500)


At least they HAVE a team over .500.

/to be fair, it is a steaming pile of crap that I forgot about
 
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