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(Fox News)   Yes, let's put a crime fighting robot in our schools. The next step is for OCP to have the ED 209 on the streets   (foxnews.com) divider line 67
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2013-12-01 11:22:36 PM
This would do better if there was a non-Fox link. Not clicking, because I don't even trust them to not make shiat up.
 
2013-12-01 11:45:27 PM

static3.wikia.nocookie.net


SCANNING AREA

 
2013-12-02 12:00:38 AM
Here ya go.   http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/03/science/coming-soon-a-night-watchma n -with-wheels.html?_r=0

It looks like a cross between R2 and a dalek.

The given choice of a robot in our schools is very telling of our society indeed.  A robot could help with cleaning, cooking, organizing or getting equipment across the school as well.  But no.  This.
 
2013-12-02 12:09:20 AM
Not really sure why you'd need the complexity of a mobile robot to wander the halls, when security cameras and software that compares sequential frames for changes are cheap.
 
2013-12-02 12:09:41 AM
www.notcoming.com
Your move creep.
 
2013-12-02 02:10:34 AM

vossiewulf: Not really sure why you'd need the complexity of a mobile robot to wander the halls, when security cameras and software that compares sequential frames for changes are cheap.


I suppose the psychological effect, of something moving around and actively patrolling the area.
 
2013-12-02 02:40:46 AM
www.monotoni.se
 
2013-12-02 03:41:08 AM
ED209 was a better robocop than robocop.
 
2013-12-02 03:42:20 AM
SECOND REQUEST: PRESENT HALL PASS
 
2013-12-02 03:43:29 AM
I don't see a problem with this.
 
2013-12-02 03:43:44 AM

Mike_LowELL: [static3.wikia.nocookie.net image 421x502]
SCANNING AREA


img.fark.net
 
2013-12-02 03:45:02 AM
images3.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-12-02 03:46:07 AM
Why is America so robo-phobic?!?
 
2013-12-02 03:48:12 AM

jon787: Why is America so robo-phobic?!?


Haven't you seen this movie before? It never ends well.
 
2013-12-02 03:49:07 AM
www.cyberpunkreview.com
 
2013-12-02 03:52:37 AM

studebaker hoch: ED209 was a better robocop than robocop.


Not if you're in a building with stairs.
 
2013-12-02 03:52:57 AM
I'm okay with this, as long as the robot is restricted to surveillance and tracking and not allowed to perform arrests or engage with the students violently.

Schools are places for learning, and if this makes students safer from bullies and other violence, I don't see how you could be against it.
 
2013-12-02 03:55:05 AM

vossiewulf: Not really sure why you'd need the complexity of a mobile robot to wander the halls, when security cameras and software that compares sequential frames for changes are cheap.


You can arm them with non lethal weapons, or other force. Of course, then we would eventually need to just arm them with weapons.
 
2013-12-02 03:55:50 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: I'm okay with this, as long as the robot is restricted to surveillance and tracking and not allowed to perform arrests or engage with the students violently.

Schools are places for learning, and if this makes students safer from bullies and other violence, I don't see how you could be against it.



Bullies & Violence = Learning.

There is no such thing as security. Well, there is, but it inconveniences people, so we will never see it enacted.
For the price of one of these automatons, a guard could be stationed in the school for YEARS.
 
2013-12-02 03:56:17 AM

iheartscotch: SECOND REQUEST: PRESENT HALL PASS


You have 20 seconds to comply!
 
2013-12-02 04:06:27 AM
This thing is just plaing spooky. And the marketing photos don't help.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-12-02 04:06:57 AM
Can't wait for teacher's wages to take another cut in order for schools to afford these!
 
2013-12-02 04:09:52 AM
I really doubt I'll ever read an article that will include the phrase, "Thanks to the K5 Autonomous Data Machine ..." regarding anything meaningful.
 
2013-12-02 04:15:24 AM

studebaker hoch: ED209 was a better robocop than robocop.


True. RoboCop wasn't even a robot; he was a cyborg.
 
2013-12-02 04:15:37 AM
Awkward
 
2013-12-02 04:17:46 AM

Yogimus: AverageAmericanGuy: I'm okay with this, as long as the robot is restricted to surveillance and tracking and not allowed to perform arrests or engage with the students violently.

Schools are places for learning, and if this makes students safer from bullies and other violence, I don't see how you could be against it.


Bullies & Violence = Learning.

There is no such thing as security. Well, there is, but it inconveniences people, so we will never see it enacted.
For the price of one of these automatons, a guard could be stationed in the school for YEARS.


I'm not saying total security is achievable, but some amount of increased security could go a long way to keeping kids safe on school grounds. While human security guards are always a cheap option, it runs the risk of failure, just as any human-performed task can. With a security robot, we're talking about 24/7 security that is not afraid to jump into the line of fire or confront armed intruders. One that isn't bound by fear of lawsuits. It just does its job and everyone is safer.

I'm sure a lot of people asked "why are we putting metal detectors in schools?" But there was a need for them and the kids are safer and the schools are better off for putting them in. The same goes here. No, you can't have absolute security, but you can certainly have increased security and safety.
 
2013-12-02 04:24:05 AM
It's basically just a camera on wheels. I can't wait for the first prankster to come up behind it and smear Vaseline on its dome.
 
2013-12-02 04:38:55 AM
*emperor cackle* Yeah, this is a good idea  *emperor cackle*

homelessdude: This thing is just plaing spooky. And the marketing photos don't help.

[i.imgur.com image 800x176]


^ That
 
2013-12-02 04:40:38 AM
Weapon of chioce:
 
2013-12-02 04:41:15 AM
img.fark.net
 
2013-12-02 04:55:51 AM
Is it anything like a Dalek? Cause those things are built for rape.
 
2013-12-02 05:08:38 AM

Public Savant: [img.fark.net image 850x850]


Right, it needs to be coupled with this:
hackedgadgets.com
 
2013-12-02 05:13:38 AM

powhound: Is it anything like a Dalek? Cause those things are built for rape.


Google "abducted by daleks"

"We don't want to think about 'RoboCop' or 'Terminator,'" Li told The Times. "We prefer to think of a mashup 'Batman,' 'Minority Report' and R2-D2 . . . We want to give the humans the ability to do the strategic work"

These guys need PR people to do their talking for them. Batman is a psycho, minority report was a distopian nightmare, and r2-d2 didn't have a memory wipe for at least a generation or two, making him a prime candidate for becoming a berserker droid.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Berserker_droid
 
2013-12-02 05:21:50 AM

Bonobo62: It's basically just a camera on wheels. I can't wait for the first prankster to come up behind it and smear Vaseline on its dome.


If there is such a thing as "behind" for this thing, in the sense of not having cameras in all directions, that's a serious design flaw. There's no reason for a robot not to have 360&degree; vision.
 
2013-12-02 05:47:21 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikJc456pi3g

"The Raven" a short film, not related to Edgar... Robot law enforcement.
 
2013-12-02 06:04:43 AM

homelessdude: This thing is just plaing spooky. And the marketing photos don't help.

[i.imgur.com image 800x176]



No taser? Fail.

A tasering a day keeps the punks away.
 
2013-12-02 06:46:03 AM
Yogimus:
[www.cyberpunkreview.com image 640x480]

You know... SHODAN was still less crazy than some people I've worked for.
 
2013-12-02 06:51:39 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Yogimus: AverageAmericanGuy: I'm okay with this, as long as the robot is restricted to surveillance and tracking and not allowed to perform arrests or engage with the students violently.

Schools are places for learning, and if this makes students safer from bullies and other violence, I don't see how you could be against it.


Bullies & Violence = Learning.

There is no such thing as security. Well, there is, but it inconveniences people, so we will never see it enacted.
For the price of one of these automatons, a guard could be stationed in the school for YEARS.

I'm not saying total security is achievable, but some amount of increased security could go a long way to keeping kids safe on school grounds. While human security guards are always a cheap option, it runs the risk of failure, just as any human-performed task can. With a security robot, we're talking about 24/7 security that is not afraid to jump into the line of fire or confront armed intruders. One that isn't bound by fear of lawsuits. It just does its job and everyone is safer.

I'm sure a lot of people asked "why are we putting metal detectors in schools?" But there was a need for them and the kids are safer and the schools are better off for putting them in. The same goes here. No, you can't have absolute security, but you can certainly have increased security and safety.


While I don't have a problem with putting this stupid machine in a school, I feel like you are really over selling this robot's abilities.

Just like a person, it can only be in one place. Good security software with recognition software connected to automatic door locks and hallway safety gates would be safer.

However, in the end, an asshole on a mission to kill kids is going to find a way to get in.

Just driving your car through the front of the building will defeat any regular daytime school security. Schools aren't bunkers and never will be. What happens when some asshole opens fire on a playground? Kids can't leave the school anymore?
 
2013-12-02 06:56:36 AM
images3.wikia.nocookie.net

/Are you still there?
 
2013-12-02 07:07:27 AM
Yeah, I can just see how this will end.
"But Mr. Robot, I lost my hall pass."
"No excuses. Exterminate, Exterminate."
 
2013-12-02 07:08:50 AM
Might be nice if the budget for education included some actual education.

I'm a Canuck, and every damn time I spend more than a week in the US, I get to play "lookit the educated guy!" at least once. Makes me sad when my high-school education beats the crap out of US-educated engineers. Ask me about my experience with nuclear rednecks in Florida...

But hey, buy more robots, that'll help :P
 
2013-12-02 07:12:13 AM
Robots for security? Nah they're just getting people used to the idea of robots in schools so they replace the teachers with them.
 
2013-12-02 07:16:50 AM

Harry_Seldon: vossiewulf: Not really sure why you'd need the complexity of a mobile robot to wander the halls, when security cameras and software that compares sequential frames for changes are cheap.

You can arm them with non lethal weapons, or other force. Of course, then we would eventually need to just arm them with weapons.


Or you could get a bunch of military robots for cheap and just bolt on the educational software.

recordsmakegreatpets.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-12-02 07:18:23 AM

Yogimus: [www.cyberpunkreview.com image 640x480]


Dude, I am playing this now! Now patched for Windows 7!!!!

img.fark.net
 
2013-12-02 07:25:14 AM

GrendelMk1: Might be nice if the budget for education included some actual education.

I'm a Canuck, and every damn time I spend more than a week in the US, I get to play "lookit the educated guy!" at least once. Makes me sad when my high-school education beats the crap out of US-educated engineers. Ask me about my experience with nuclear rednecks in Florida...

But hey, buy more robots, that'll help :P


Hey look a Canuk with a superiority complex instead of an inferiority complex.  You don't see that every day.
 
2013-12-02 07:50:12 AM

Nezorf:


Hey, if the kiddies take the Certified Tech perk, they can harvest way more components from the robots they destroy. It's a win-win!
 
2013-12-02 07:55:21 AM
The K5 Autonomous Data Machine

Meh, wait until they get to K9, then it might be worth something...

static2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-12-02 07:58:19 AM

lewismarktwo: GrendelMk1: Might be nice if the budget for education included some actual education.

I'm a Canuck, and every damn time I spend more than a week in the US, I get to play "lookit the educated guy!" at least once. Makes me sad when my high-school education beats the crap out of US-educated engineers. Ask me about my experience with nuclear rednecks in Florida...

But hey, buy more robots, that'll help :P

Hey look a Canuk with a superiority complex instead of an inferiority complex.  You don't see that every day.


Perhaps its the fact that people in Canada are required to know more than 8th grade mathematics and how to read before they actually graduate is what you find intimidating.
 
2013-12-02 08:05:52 AM
Every time I see some article on something like this, it always looks like an R2 unit with no balls... All this thing will be able to do is record the asshat who came into the school and document what caliber Glock or type of clip for his AK-47, not like it'll be able to do a damned thing about it... Not to mention these pieces of rolling paperweights will get stopped at every staircase, and every school I've been to has had at least 1 set of stairs...

And cost savings? When they have to put one to three of these puppies on every floor and then still get sued by the parents of the next generation of slain kids because these things couldn't keep them safe, only gave them a "security theater" like the TSA does for airlines, then they'll be asking why they didn't keep cops and armed teachers in the schools...

/Only partially trolling...
//Ok, maybe a little serious with the jab at the TSA
/// Slashies?
 
2013-12-02 08:10:17 AM

Deathfrogg: lewismarktwo: GrendelMk1: Might be nice if the budget for education included some actual education.

I'm a Canuck, and every damn time I spend more than a week in the US, I get to play "lookit the educated guy!" at least once. Makes me sad when my high-school education beats the crap out of US-educated engineers. Ask me about my experience with nuclear rednecks in Florida...

But hey, buy more robots, that'll help :P

Hey look a Canuk with a superiority complex instead of an inferiority complex.  You don't see that every day.

Perhaps its the fact that people in Canada are required to know more than 8th grade mathematics and how to read before they actually graduate is what you find intimidating.

That's

the stuff I'm used to. Feels good.
 
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