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(Time)   Amazon Prime to utilize drones for delivery within four to five years. Non-prime folks will get their items shipped via UPS and will have their names put on a special list for when Amazon seizes control of the world   (techland.time.com) divider line 200
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2013-12-01 08:52:39 PM
Amazon has a pretty good shot of becoming the only store in America at some point.
 
2013-12-01 08:53:53 PM
??????
Amazon seized control several years ago.
 
2013-12-01 09:01:04 PM
Amazon is pretty damn evil, that's clear.
 
2013-12-01 09:02:17 PM
High n the gee-whiz factor, but I really don;t see the value.  I wouldn't want my stuff left out in the open.  Now, if they could leave it on my apartment balcony, I'd be all for it.
 
2013-12-01 09:10:15 PM
Just don't try to cancel the membership.

b.vimeocdn.com
 
2013-12-01 09:12:15 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: High n the gee-whiz factor, but I really don;t see the value.  I wouldn't want my stuff left out in the open.  Now, if they could leave it on my apartment balcony, I'd be all for it.


It's very odd to think how this would work. On a very, very basic level, how would the drone know where to drop the package? It's one think for it to be able to pinpoint a general address. But if I give the drone my house address, how the hell is it going to know where to put it? In my backyard? Front porch? Roof? Balcony? How can you get a drone to determine what the best place is to drop the package.

I also don't see how it works at all for apartment buildings, especially in places like New York and SF - drones just leave stuff in the street? As for regular houses, if they can figure out where to drop the thing, I presume it would simply be on the customer to only order this kind of delivery for things where security isn't that big a concern.
 
2013-12-01 09:19:40 PM

DamnYankees: Benevolent Misanthrope: High n the gee-whiz factor, but I really don;t see the value.  I wouldn't want my stuff left out in the open.  Now, if they could leave it on my apartment balcony, I'd be all for it.

It's very odd to think how this would work. On a very, very basic level, how would the drone know where to drop the package? It's one think for it to be able to pinpoint a general address. But if I give the drone my house address, how the hell is it going to know where to put it? In my backyard? Front porch? Roof? Balcony? How can you get a drone to determine what the best place is to drop the package.

I also don't see how it works at all for apartment buildings, especially in places like New York and SF - drones just leave stuff in the street? As for regular houses, if they can figure out where to drop the thing, I presume it would simply be on the customer to only order this kind of delivery for things where security isn't that big a concern.


It's an absurd gimmick and a terrible idea in general, but it got Amazon and Jeff Bezos publicity so that's the real success there.
 
2013-12-01 09:22:22 PM

DamnYankees: Benevolent Misanthrope: High n the gee-whiz factor, but I really don;t see the value.  I wouldn't want my stuff left out in the open.  Now, if they could leave it on my apartment balcony, I'd be all for it.

It's very odd to think how this would work. On a very, very basic level, how would the drone know where to drop the package? It's one think for it to be able to pinpoint a general address. But if I give the drone my house address, how the hell is it going to know where to put it? In my backyard? Front porch? Roof? Balcony? How can you get a drone to determine what the best place is to drop the package.

I also don't see how it works at all for apartment buildings, especially in places like New York and SF - drones just leave stuff in the street? As for regular houses, if they can figure out where to drop the thing, I presume it would simply be on the customer to only order this kind of delivery for things where security isn't that big a concern.


I think it's entirely do-able to program a drone to know which apartment balcony is which - including something as simple as having the customer print a QR Code or something that the drone would recognize, and post it on the balcony somewhere.  I'd be all over that service if they shipped to my city (which .com doesn't, and even if it did I'm pretty remote).
 
2013-12-01 09:41:32 PM
Up next, drones with Hellfire missiles targeting people who return too many items.
 
2013-12-01 10:01:08 PM
Yah, no one would think to steal those and sell them on eBay.
 
2013-12-01 10:04:37 PM
It's just a bullshiat pie-in-the-sky dream.  They don't need drone delivery--they're about five years away from same-day delivery in most major areas anyway.  Why the hell would they spend a kabillion dollars on drones when they can just lease the remaining warehouses and buy the US Postal Service for a fraction of the cost?
 
2013-12-01 10:09:30 PM
it's been done.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-12-01 10:10:55 PM

PainInTheASP: buy the US Postal Service for a fraction of the cost?


Yeah, that's never going to happen.

As soon as someone stops forcing them to pay for pensions 25 years out, they'd stop running deficits.
 
2013-12-01 11:10:52 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: High n the gee-whiz factor, but I really don;t see the value.  I wouldn't want my stuff left out in the open.  Now, if they could leave it on my apartment balcony, I'd be all for it.


Apartment balconies would eventually be a part of it. Customers will probably need to set up GPS coordinated delivery pads, probably mostly in backyards at first, which is a lot better than the current situation of leaning against the front door. So if you want a DVD or something else relatively small or light, Bezos' goal is to get it to you within about 5 hours.

The technology to do it all exists and Amazon can probably solve most issues on the supply end, but problems like trees, power lines and bad weather will be hard to solve on the delivery end. And since the drones would be making single-runs, it would be hard to overcome the cost efficiency of a driver on a route with a full truck.
 
2013-12-01 11:26:26 PM
Amazon is the only big internet business that I have never had a negative experience with.

I would love to shop Newegg, but Amazon Prime and its rewards are nothing close to what Newegg can do.
 
2013-12-01 11:32:38 PM

NewportBarGuy: PainInTheASP: buy the US Postal Service for a fraction of the cost?

Yeah, that's never going to happen.

As soon as someone stops forcing them to pay for pensions 25 years out, they'd stop running deficits.


75
 
2013-12-01 11:46:18 PM

enry: 75


Is it that many years?! Holy f*ck. I was hoping someone would correct me but that is insane.
 
2013-12-01 11:49:11 PM

Triumph: So if you want a DVD or something else relatively small or light, Bezos' goal is to get it to you within about 5 hours.


Or you could just, you know, download and watch it streaming on Amazon Prime in five seconds.
 
2013-12-02 12:47:48 AM

NewportBarGuy: enry: 75

Is it that many years?! Holy f*ck. I was hoping someone would correct me but that is insane.


It was a cunning plan by the GOP to destroy a constitutionally mandated government service.
 
2013-12-02 12:59:26 AM
I for one sure hopes this succeeds. Just from the technology standpoint it is really awesome. Also, prime is totally worth it. Not sure how I ever lived without it.
 
2013-12-02 01:39:18 AM

namatad: NewportBarGuy: enry: 75

Is it that many years?! Holy f*ck. I was hoping someone would correct me but that is insane.

It was a cunning plan by the GOP to destroy a constitutionally mandated government service.


Why would they do that?

PainInTheASP: ...buy the US Postal Service for a fraction of the cost?


Oohhh...
 
2013-12-02 01:56:28 AM

NewportBarGuy: Up next, drones with Hellfire missiles targeting people who return too many items.


This may be relevant to your interests.
 
2013-12-02 02:01:04 AM
I saw the 60 Minutes broadcast tonight and enjoyed the segment. I didn't know they were doing Amazon groceries in two cities, that's kinda neat. The delivery drones are cool and I'm looking forward to seeing if they can make them work. But I think rednecks and kids with potato guns are going to shoot them down. And dogs? "Dad, Woofy is killing the Amazoncopter."

I wonder if working in an Amazon distribution center sucks worse than working at Wal Mart. But that's another topic.
 
2013-12-02 04:38:52 AM

Triumph: Benevolent Misanthrope: High n the gee-whiz factor, but I really don;t see the value.  I wouldn't want my stuff left out in the open.  Now, if they could leave it on my apartment balcony, I'd be all for it.

Apartment balconies would eventually be a part of it. Customers will probably need to set up GPS coordinated delivery pads, probably mostly in backyards at first, which is a lot better than the current situation of leaning against the front door. So if you want a DVD or something else relatively small or light, Bezos' goal is to get it to you within about 5 hours.

The technology to do it all exists and Amazon can probably solve most issues on the supply end, but problems like trees, power lines and bad weather will be hard to solve on the delivery end. And since the drones would be making single-runs, it would be hard to overcome the cost efficiency of a driver on a route with a full truck.


Targeting isn't that big of an issue. It wouldn't be that difficult or expensive for Amazon to create a landing pad type thingy they would just ship you for free when you signed up for prime. Then you could place that where you think it is secure. Trees and powerlines are pretty static so simple navigation can make that a non-issue.

Weather is the big issue. Specifically wind. When your fleet of drones are grounded the warehouse is going to get backed up, and the logistics become a nightmare. Especially if you are trying to deliver perishables.

Don't forget about rednecks taking pot shots with shotguns, pellet guns and anything else they can try to take one down with.
 
2013-12-02 04:41:25 AM
I just joined Prime, but I have nothing to say.
 
2013-12-02 04:42:02 AM
I call bullsh*t.

Will the drone be as big as a UPS/FedEx Truck?

No? Amazon will single-task each and every delivery?

Based on Volume, the skies will be black with amazon drones and the merchandise it movies at current levels.

I commend Bezos on trolling the entire capitalist interwebs, but this won't be happening in our lifetime.

//C'monnnnnnnnnnnn
 
2013-12-02 04:44:22 AM
*moves
 
2013-12-02 04:57:52 AM

violentsalvation: I wonder if working in an Amazon distribution center sucks worse than working at Wal Mart. But that's another topic.


Packers are human robots.
Stand HERE
take item from robot picker delivery cart
put in pre-picked box
fill
close
tape
label
stack on belt

repeat
FASTER
boxes per hour

human robots
 
2013-12-02 05:16:18 AM
Once this technology makes it down to the pizza delivery level it's going to ruin porn storylines forever.
 
2013-12-02 05:17:09 AM

NewportBarGuy: Amazon has a pretty good shot of becoming the only store in America at some point.


this is my first year of ordering all my Christmas presents online through amazon.

I loved it.
 
2013-12-02 05:18:15 AM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Once this technology makes it down to the pizza delivery level it's going to ruin porn storylines forever.


nah.

"Oh. you must be here to fix the drone..."
 
2013-12-02 05:36:23 AM
I can't wait to see what insane theories Alex Jones will feed my crazy brother regarding the amazon drones.
 
2013-12-02 05:44:45 AM

Rincewind53: It's an absurd gimmick and a terrible idea in general, but it got Amazon and Jeff Bezos publicity so that's the real success there.


THIS.  But Bezos is not an idiot - it will happen eventually.  Not in 5 years.  I give it 20.
 
2013-12-02 05:46:53 AM
I'm a recovering redneck and the sight of that thing gave me the urge to blast it with a shotgun. Better contingency plan for that.
 
2013-12-02 05:47:55 AM
I saw this on 60 Minutes last night, and laughed and laughed.

Not that it's not feasible or won't happen, it's just the big deal he/they made of it.  It looked so stupid.
 
2013-12-02 05:51:28 AM
so, IF this actually becomes a thing, what are the odds that we will someday see some type of "drone air traffic controller" jobs opening up?
 
2013-12-02 05:55:22 AM
It'll work great!

As long as you order hot, flaming, missiles.

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www.wired.com
 
2013-12-02 05:56:13 AM
The day Amazon uses drones is the day I buy a high-powered air rifle and a base-ball glove.
 
2013-12-02 05:56:15 AM
What if you ordered a drone from Amazon in the first place?
 
2013-12-02 05:58:02 AM
This reminds me of when Segways were supposed to change the world.
 
2013-12-02 05:59:55 AM
I love the idea, but when my wife pointed this story out to me earlier, I almost immediately came up with a list of about 15 things that can and most likely will go horribly wrong.

I imagine packages dropped from a few hundred feet, "hey! Free drone!", drones landing on people, dogs killing the drones (as was mentioned earlier in this thread), rednecks, etc.

Still, it'd be hilarious to watch.  I'd definitely use this if it were available.
 
2013-12-02 06:01:29 AM

dixiedownunder: I'm a recovering redneck and the sight of that thing gave me the urge to blast it with a shotgun. Better contingency plan for that.



CSB:  I was living in north Florida when Target first came into that area (about 25 years ago).  For the first few months, the store kept having to replace its street-side sign -- since the "bullseye" portion of their logo was repeatedly peppered with bullet-holes by local rednecks, who took the sign a bit too literally.  They finally solved the problem by moving the sign to the top of a very tall pole.

/lives 3000 miles away from there, now
 
2013-12-02 06:06:25 AM
Never going to happen.

images.fineartamerica.com

Not a chance in hell something flies in an urban environment, especially in the US.
 
2013-12-02 06:08:50 AM

GungFu: Never going to happen.

[images.fineartamerica.com image 850x523]

Not a chance in hell something flies in an urban environment, especially in the US.


"Pull! ..out the savings with Amazon.com!"
 
2013-12-02 06:09:16 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-12-02 06:10:56 AM
South park ups guy.jpeg is relieved.
 
2013-12-02 06:14:27 AM

PainInTheASP: It's just a bullshiat pie-in-the-sky dream.  They don't need drone delivery--they're about five years away from same-day delivery in most major areas anyway.  Why the hell would they spend a kabillion dollars on drones when they can just lease the remaining warehouses and buy the US Postal Service for a fraction of the cost?


Yeah, Amazon themselves will probably never do it.

Some start-up will probably do it and then Amazon will buy them if they manage to get it to work.

Seems like the basic technology is there but just needs to sort out all the annoying details.

I would think that there would be a designated Amazon pickup area (some parking lot) where the drone can drop off the package and you sign for it with your cellphone being there or drop it next to your car.

Or you set up an appointment with the drone and it will call you when it is close. Then, you find an open area like the roof or street and the drone will drop off the package.

Most people are assuming dropoffs will occur during office hours in their porch. With drones it can be anytime and will probably be most during evenings and weekends when you are home, like pizza delivery.
 
2013-12-02 06:15:44 AM
They won't say it, but there is no technological reason this wouldn't work. The reason for the delay is they know the rednecks are going to shoot them down for the free stuff.  They have a serious obstacle and I don't know if they can overcome it.
 
2013-12-02 06:16:28 AM

August11: I just joined Prime, but I have nothing to say.


I tried the free trial sometime over a year or so ago to get some stuff delivered quick - and free. I was pleased with their service. I was in the market to order some more stuff this holiday season and was going to purchase prime because of my experiences with it. So far it has been online shopping at it's best for me. They decided to offer me another free trial, 2 day free shipping during the holiday season? sign me up!

I've seen some deals on newegg/tigerdirect that I was interested in but ultimately went with the company that stole my heart.

<3 amazon.
 
2013-12-02 06:19:55 AM

mr0x: PainInTheASP: It's just a bullshiat pie-in-the-sky dream.  They don't need drone delivery--they're about five years away from same-day delivery in most major areas anyway.  Why the hell would they spend a kabillion dollars on drones when they can just lease the remaining warehouses and buy the US Postal Service for a fraction of the cost?

Yeah, Amazon themselves will probably never do it.

Most people are assuming dropoffs will occur during office hours in their porch. With drones it can be anytime and will probably be most during evenings and weekends when you are home, like pizza

(and weed) delivery.

madmikesamerica.com

Yes, please.
 
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