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(Chicago Sun-Times)   More than 200 cars were towed in Chicago because people were too stupid to remember the annual overnight parking ban started at midnight   (suntimes.com ) divider line
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2013-12-01 07:32:27 PM  
TALO
 
2013-12-01 07:41:03 PM  
So let's see...$39,435 in fines per day times 121 days = almost $5 million.

Budget crisis solved!
 
2013-12-01 08:09:56 PM  
"This is bullcrap. I parked my car at 4AM..."

Ban is from 3AM-7AM
 
2013-12-01 08:11:28 PM  
I suppose it would be out of the question to have a short grace period during the....never mind.
 
2013-12-01 08:31:25 PM  
Obligatory

Link
 
2013-12-01 09:06:00 PM  
So the sign in TFA is irrelevant? This must be one of those places that let's the police make up speed limits.
 
2013-12-01 09:14:26 PM  
Where the hell are people supposed to park if they don't have garage space?
 
2013-12-01 09:27:18 PM  
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Considering the sheer number of people and cars in Chicago, I'd say a few hundred cars is pretty minor overall.
 
2013-12-01 09:29:59 PM  

Somacandra: the sheer number of people and cars in Chicago


You're not very good at reading graphs, are you?
 
2013-12-01 09:31:12 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Where the hell are people supposed to park if they don't have garage space?


i.imgur.com

As I understand it, these are a subset of arterial streets. These are not garden variety obscure side streets. But I'm sure there are some people on those streets having trouble. Where I live parking is part of the rental contract. Don't know how universal that is, though.
 
2013-12-01 09:33:24 PM  

dookdookdook: You're not very good at reading graphs, are you?


Yes, I was waiting for the inevitable "but....but...but..households/cars/ratio" comment. Surprised it came this early but not that it came from you. Congrats on the Dumbass award. Because even if there is 1 car for every ten people that's still a helluva lot of cars compared the 300.
 
2013-12-01 09:41:30 PM  

Somacandra: Yes, I was waiting for the inevitable "but....but...but..households/cars/ratio" comment.


So you knowingly posted two charts that individually have almost nothing to do with your point, then expected us to figure out what you were attempting to say with them and then do all the math ourselves?  Yeah, I'm far too lazy for that.


Congrats on the Dumbass award.

Hooray! :D  When do I get the plaque?
 
2013-12-01 10:38:49 PM  

Somacandra: Benevolent Misanthrope: Where the hell are people supposed to park if they don't have garage space?

[i.imgur.com image 710x63]

As I understand it, these are a subset of arterial streets. These are not garden variety obscure side streets. But I'm sure there are some people on those streets having trouble. Where I live parking is part of the rental contract. Don't know how universal that is, though.


1) yes - major streets
2) most rental in chicago does not include parking, esp since we are such a spread out city. there is tons of street parking.
3) 200 getting caught by this is a drop in the bucket. if they had more tow trucks, the number would probably have been much higher.
4) people who get caught and complain about this? YAWN. moops

happens every year, you FORGOT since last time? ROLF
first year here and you are too stupid to read the parking signs? ROFL
 
2013-12-01 11:34:42 PM  
And their "pizza" sucks
 
2013-12-01 11:38:18 PM  
If there's no snow, it's just a cash grab.
 
2013-12-01 11:38:44 PM  
Are there signs saying "No parking 3am-7am December to March"? Or are you expected to be familiar with local bylaws that are not posted?

/Three felonies a day
 
2013-12-01 11:39:16 PM  

jaylectricity: "This is bullcrap. I parked my car at 4AM..."

Ban is from 3AM-7AM


Bull crap!  We got daylight savings time suxka
 
2013-12-01 11:39:18 PM  
I'd laugh at these people but I've been burned by the fact that the city parking enforcement can ticket you for not having your plate updated.

Street parking is 130 bucks/year if you include a "zone" on your sticker and about 100 without one.  As long as you live west of Halsted, Chicago is a VERY easy city to park in.  The occasional fines for a screwup once a year or so is still way less than the 150/month I was burning to park in a garage in Washington-West Philly.
 
2013-12-01 11:39:39 PM  
 
2013-12-01 11:42:15 PM  

bingethinker: If there's no snow, it's just a cash grab.


I see you've never lived in a big city in winter.
 
2013-12-01 11:42:28 PM  

Somacandra: [i.imgur.com image 539x340]

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Considering the sheer number of people and cars in Chicago, I'd say a few hundred cars is pretty minor overall.


Came here to point this out.
 
2013-12-01 11:42:58 PM  
Albany does this, though they have an awesome scheme where they ban overnight parking on alternating sides of the road, and also switch sides on odd- and even-numbered days, so it's easy for people to fark up and forget which side is supposed to be clear that day if you're not parking on a street with a lot of cars. They also tow and fine people even if it doesn't snow, when the stated justification is to clear the roads for plowing. As in this case, this shiat is just a revenue source for cities. Yeah, you should know better and not park where you aren't supposed to, but it's still obnoxious. I wonder how much of that money they'd actually need if they didn't pay crews to roam the streets towing folks from October to March every year.
 
2013-12-01 11:43:43 PM  
Are these the spots they sold off to that Middle Eastern company?
 
2013-12-01 11:43:56 PM  
On tonight's episode of Parking Wars: Chicago.......
 
2013-12-01 11:43:58 PM  
"It's pretty stupid because there is no snow on the ground,"

Enforcing the ban only when it is snowing kind of defeats the purpose. The point is to keep the roads clear in event that it snows and plows and salt trucks need to get down the streets. Such restrictions are quite common in snowy areas and usually well publicized.

Mugato: I suppose it would be out of the question to have a short grace period during the....never mind.


So they announce they don't enforce it until December 14, then you get the exact same thing two weeks later. They could not charge the fines for a period, but that would be pretty irrelevant because the tow fees and having your vehicle towed are the real penalties.
 
2013-12-01 11:47:41 PM  
And to add insult to injury, tow yards are always a hike out to the boonies.  It's bad enough your plans get f'd up and you have to pay $200+ for nothing, you have to somehow get to a part of town you'd never ever want to go for any reason.
 
2013-12-01 11:49:17 PM  

Bonanza Jellybean: They also tow and fine people even if it doesn't snow, when the stated justification is to clear the roads for plowing.


That's the whole point. You tow and fine the shiat out of people before it snows so you're not stuck with some dipshiat stopping the plow from coming through when it does. Once it snows, you can't tow him, so you tow him now and he learns.
 
2013-12-01 11:52:32 PM  

dookdookdook: So let's see...$39,435 in fines per day times 121 days = almost $5 million.

Budget crisis solved!


You forgot to add in union payoffs, political kickbacks, and assorted other graft.
 
2013-12-01 11:54:36 PM  
Hey, come on now. You have to keep city tow employees busy. What else do you do with people too stupid to scam off of welfare?
 
2013-12-01 11:55:27 PM  
Dear said a small army of tow trucks descended on Wicker Park early Sunday and towed away the cars of many clubgoers who were still enjoying late weekend bar hours.


It's kind of amusing how they pick on the hipster neighborhood
 
2013-12-01 11:55:55 PM  

thurstonxhowell: Bonanza Jellybean: They also tow and fine people even if it doesn't snow, when the stated justification is to clear the roads for plowing.

That's the whole point. You tow and fine the shiat out of people before it snows so you're not stuck with some dipshiat stopping the plow from coming through when it does. Once it snows, you can't tow him, so you tow him now and he learns.


It wouldn't matter, these would be the same people who would whine if it snowed, the plow couldn't come through their street because of too many cars being illegally parked, and they'd want to know "Why didn't the city do something about it before it snowed?!?"
 
2013-12-01 11:56:04 PM  

dookdookdook: So let's see...$39,435 in fines per day times 121 days = almost $5 million.

Budget crisis solved!


If only the budget crisis was only $5M.  They could pay that off out of the kickback fund.
 
2013-12-01 11:59:57 PM  

bingethinker: If there's no snow, it's just a cash grab.


If you park on the side of the road at 3AM and an unexpected snowstorm blows in at 5AM, you can really screw up rush hour traffic at 7AM.

By your logic, it should be legal to park in front of a fire hydrant as long as there is no fire at the time.
 
BBH
2013-12-02 12:03:50 AM  
There are signs on those streets that have the ban. This happens every year on 12/1.

Most of the two truck operators are independents, not city trucks. If they were city drivers they would be paid at least double time for working those hours.

I hate driving and parking in Chicago during the winter.
 
2013-12-02 12:04:50 AM  

dywed88: "It's pretty stupid because there is no snow on the ground,"

Enforcing the ban only when it is snowing kind of defeats the purpose. The point is to keep the roads clear in event that it snows and plows and salt trucks need to get down the streets. Such restrictions are quite common in snowy areas and usually well publicized.

Mugato: I suppose it would be out of the question to have a short grace period during the....never mind.

So they announce they don't enforce it until December 14, then you get the exact same thing two weeks later. They could not charge the fines for a period, but that would be pretty irrelevant because the tow fees and having your vehicle towed are the real penalties.


Sioux Falls, South Dakota enforces a parking ban on marked emergency snow routes (the main arteries) only when at least 2 inches of snow have fallen and streets are not yet plowed. If there's 2 inches of snow and you're in the way you'll get towed.

So, looks like Chicago is incompetent. Another city has proved their stupid law is stupid.
 
2013-12-02 12:05:10 AM  

dookdookdook: Hooray! :D When do I get the plaqueplague?


FTFY.

/pet peeve
 
2013-12-02 12:06:20 AM  
One more reason I love Texas!

/parked out front
//facing the wrong way
 
2013-12-02 12:08:25 AM  
CSB:

I have to park on the street because we have one driveway and two cars. There are signs along the street stating "1 hour parking" during normal business hours. That's because the commuter boat to Boston is within walking distance and they charge for parking.

Lived here for a couple years with no problem. Then some new neighbors move in across the street(tenants). My truck is parked in front of their house. One day I get a ticket. I go to fight the ticket. The parking commissioner guy clearly says, "This is neighbor driven. Nobody wants to go down that street just to write a (stupid) parking ticket."

End up getting the ticket removed but I paid for a "parking permit" just in case. $20 to the city.
 
2013-12-02 12:08:29 AM  

phaseolus: Dear said a small army of tow trucks descended on Wicker Park early Sunday and towed away the cars of many clubgoers who were still enjoying late weekend bar hours.


It's kind of amusing how they pick on the hipster neighborhood



Easy money.  Least change of getting shot or beat ta f*ck.
Makes sense.
 
2013-12-02 12:09:47 AM  
The rules don't apply to me!
I can do whatever I want!!
 
2013-12-02 12:10:14 AM  
One of the many reasons I will never live in a big city. I can't stand being anywhere where there isn't ample, free parking that isn't on a roadway. Dense urban areas just make me feel claustrophobic, especially when I need to park.
 
2013-12-02 12:17:00 AM  

LemSkroob: Hey, come on now. You have to keep city tow employees busy. What else do you do with people too stupid to scam off of welfare?


City tow employees?

I believe Chicago, like most cities, use private tow companies/yards. They get a franchise to "enforce" the city parking rules, which means free money, basically, just for cruising around an area and towing violators (there are always violators).

Bonanza Jellybean: They also tow and fine people even if it doesn't snow, when the stated justification is to clear the roads for plowing.


As others mentioned, you tow them so when it does snow, you aren't stuck with a bunch of people parked on the street when you need to plow them, since it might be clear at 3am, and 6 inches deep at 5am.
 
2013-12-02 12:22:27 AM  

jaylectricity: "bingethinker: If there's no snow, it's just a cash grab.

If you park on the side of the road at 3AM and an unexpected snowstorm blows in at 5AM, you can really screw up rush hour traffic at 7AM."



If only we had some sort of forecast system that could predict snowstorms more than a couple hours in advance...
 
2013-12-02 12:23:01 AM  

jaylectricity: "This is bullcrap. I parked my car at 4AM..."

Ban is from 3AM-7AM


I think he was more upset by the last part of his statement "they towed my car 10 minutes later". If they're supposed to give you a ticket first 10 minutes doesn't seem like enough time.
 
2013-12-02 12:24:36 AM  

thurstonxhowell: Bonanza Jellybean: They also tow and fine people even if it doesn't snow, when the stated justification is to clear the roads for plowing.

That's the whole point. You tow and fine the shiat out of people before it snows so you're not stuck with some dipshiat stopping the plow from coming through when it does. Once it snows, you can't tow him, so you tow him now and he learns.


LesserEvil: LemSkroob: Hey, come on now. You have to keep city tow employees busy. What else do you do with people too stupid to scam off of welfare?

City tow employees?

I believe Chicago, like most cities, use private tow companies/yards. They get a franchise to "enforce" the city parking rules, which means free money, basically, just for cruising around an area and towing violators (there are always violators).

Bonanza Jellybean: They also tow and fine people even if it doesn't snow, when the stated justification is to clear the roads for plowing.

As others mentioned, you tow them so when it does snow, you aren't stuck with a bunch of people parked on the street when you need to plow them, since it might be clear at 3am, and 6 inches deep at 5am.


That's predicated on the idea that there is a consistent, finite subset of people who will park incorrectly only once, early on, when there is no snow, and that after they have been towed, nobody else will ever do it when there is snow.
 
2013-12-02 12:27:57 AM  

fusillade762: jaylectricity: "This is bullcrap. I parked my car at 4AM..."

Ban is from 3AM-7AM

I think he was more upset by the last part of his statement "they towed my car 10 minutes later". If they're supposed to give you a ticket first 10 minutes doesn't seem like enough time.


I've seen them tucked under the wiper of a car that's hooked up to be towed. I'm not sure if notice is required.
 
2013-12-02 12:32:31 AM  
"It's pretty stupid because there is no snow on the ground," said Reinstein, who lives in Rogers Park, but stayed in Logan Square on Saturday night.

Slut!
 
2013-12-02 12:34:45 AM  

fusillade762: jaylectricity: "This is bullcrap. I parked my car at 4AM..."

Ban is from 3AM-7AM

I think he was more upset by the last part of his statement "they towed my car 10 minutes later". If they're supposed to give you a ticket first 10 minutes doesn't seem like enough time.


It could just be a coincidence that they parked right as the meter maids were coming around that blo-HAHAHAHA I can't finish that sentence!
 
2013-12-02 12:41:36 AM  

99.998er: "It's pretty stupid because there is no snow on the ground," said Reinstein, who lives in Rogers Park, but stayed in Logan Square on Saturday night.

Slut!



Right?  Pretty expensive lay.
 
2013-12-02 12:43:37 AM  

Nem Wan: dywed88: "It's pretty stupid because there is no snow on the ground,"

Enforcing the ban only when it is snowing kind of defeats the purpose. The point is to keep the roads clear in event that it snows and plows and salt trucks need to get down the streets. Such restrictions are quite common in snowy areas and usually well publicized.

Mugato: I suppose it would be out of the question to have a short grace period during the....never mind.

So they announce they don't enforce it until December 14, then you get the exact same thing two weeks later. They could not charge the fines for a period, but that would be pretty irrelevant because the tow fees and having your vehicle towed are the real penalties.

Sioux Falls, South Dakota enforces a parking ban on marked emergency snow routes (the main arteries) only when at least 2 inches of snow have fallen and streets are not yet plowed. If there's 2 inches of snow and you're in the way you'll get towed.

So, looks like Chicago is incompetent. Another city has proved their stupid law is stupid.


Chicago has a 2" snow ban as well. The purpose of the overnight ban, as I always understood it, is to allow curb-to-curb plowing as needed if it snows less than 2 inches.

Practically speaking, you're probably not going to get towed during the day if there's less than 6 inches of snow on the ground, since the tow companies would be fighting a lot of people claiming that there wasn't more than 2" of snow in their neighborhood, and the plows are going to be more concerned with keeping the actual driving lanes clear. It's much easier to wait until 3am, tow the idiots who didn't move their cars, and plow the rest of the street then.
 
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