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(The Daily Beast)   Canada and the United States should merge economies, eliminate borders, be renamed the U.S., eh   (thedailybeast.com) divider line 252
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2013-12-01 03:36:00 PM  
I used to think that was inevitable as the Yurps merged more and more. The pressure to be bigger, etc. etc.

That was stupid. Why the hell would Cannuckistan want to join us? They should build a big ass wall.
 
2013-12-01 03:40:39 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-12-01 03:45:12 PM  
Haven't Canadians already suffered enough?
 
2013-12-01 03:47:27 PM  
New name: U.S. Eh?
 
2013-12-01 03:48:54 PM  
As in it needs the question mark.
 
2013-12-01 03:49:16 PM  

flucto: I used to think that was inevitable as the Yurps merged more and more. The pressure to be bigger, etc. etc.

That was stupid. Why the hell would Cannuckistan want to join us? They should build a big ass wall.


Don't think it hasn't crossed Canada's mind.

Canadians I talk to about economics believe that Canada has a far more robust economy than the US.  If you can't grow it, mine it, drill it up or ranch it, it's not real.  To oversimplify terribly, Canada has a resource-based economy.  The US economy is based on debt.  Our banks are more stable, because our banking system has more safeguards - because our mortgages and investment laws didn't follow all the "advancements" of the last 30-50 years in the US that made the housing collapse inevitable.  Come to think of it, it's kind of like the Galactica of banking, actually.

The US is now looking north for a life raft.  I hope we can fend them off.
 
2013-12-01 03:49:55 PM  
Sorry subby.  Why doesn't fark let us put punctuation at the end of headlines
 
2013-12-01 03:55:37 PM  
Benevolent Misanthrope:

The US is now looking north for a life raft.  I hope we can fend them off.

I'm sorry I can't hear you over the sound of American hockey teams winning
 
2013-12-01 03:56:52 PM  

flucto: I used to think that was inevitable as the Yurps merged more and more. The pressure to be bigger, etc. etc.

That was stupid. Why the hell would Cannuckistan want to join us? They should build a big ass wall.


Because we have better weather. 

I'm married to a Canadian. Canada is amazing. They have so many wonderful things, and their society is leaps and bounds ahead of ours.

...between April and October. 

The rest of ye--JESUS FARKING CHRIST ITS COLD I CANT WAIT TO GET HOME WHERE I BELONG!!!
 
2013-12-01 04:00:07 PM  

Tax Boy: Benevolent Misanthrope:

The US is now looking north for a life raft.  I hope we can fend them off.

I'm sorry I can't hear you over the sound of American hockey teams winning


I'm sorry I can't hear you over the roar of curling stones.
 
2013-12-01 04:02:10 PM  
It always seemed odd and arbitrary that, as somebody living for example in Milwaukee, I should supposedly feel some connection to people living in Miami or Honolulu that I don't have with somebody in Toronto or Winnipeg. I think the US could easily handle open borders on both sides, but there's really no good reason to not have open borders and a common market with Canada.
 
2013-12-01 04:06:54 PM  

whistleridge: flucto: I used to think that was inevitable as the Yurps merged more and more. The pressure to be bigger, etc. etc.

That was stupid. Why the hell would Cannuckistan want to join us? They should build a big ass wall.

Because we have better weather. 

I'm married to a Canadian. Canada is amazing. They have so many wonderful things, and their society is leaps and bounds ahead of ours.

...between April and October. 

The rest of ye--JESUS FARKING CHRIST ITS COLD I CANT WAIT TO GET HOME WHERE I BELONG!!!


Now, y'see, I'm a Southern girl who moved to Northern Alberta, and I like it fine in the winter.  Even at -40.  We're prepared for it, traffic-wise, and I get to dress up in nice down coats and snoogley-boogley sweaters and comfy boots.  My big-'ol shiat-kicker 4x4 truck works just as well here as it does in Georgia.

Plus, all the wonderful things you mentioned.  Like, cities who give a fark about their citizens' quality of life, and social advancements that took the place of legalizing corporate raiding.
 
2013-12-01 04:10:10 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Tax Boy: Benevolent Misanthrope:

The US is now looking north for a life raft.  I hope we can fend them off.

I'm sorry I can't hear you over the sound of American hockey teams winning

I'm sorry I can't hear you over the roar of curling stones.


Curling isn't a sport, just an excuse to drink beer. In which case, EVERYBODY WINS
 
2013-12-01 04:24:12 PM  

Tax Boy: Benevolent Misanthrope: Tax Boy: Benevolent Misanthrope:

The US is now looking north for a life raft.  I hope we can fend them off.

I'm sorry I can't hear you over the sound of American hockey teams winning

I'm sorry I can't hear you over the roar of curling stones.

Curling isn't a sport, just an excuse to drink beer. In which case, EVERYBODY WINS


Truer words were never spoken.
 
2013-12-01 04:33:31 PM  
If Cana ever would have entertained such an idea, it would have been long before our national derp had reached such dangerous levels.
 
2013-12-01 04:34:16 PM  
cdn.obsidianportal.com

UCAS forever baby!  yeah!
 
2013-12-01 04:35:04 PM  
Hmm...let me think...
1) Gun violence would migrate north2) Single-payer healthcare probably would disappear3) Idiots screaming about 2nd Amendment rights when all other rights are being violated4) Wall Street bankers making laws instead of the people5) You know what? I'll stop here...what exactly would Canadians GAIN???
 
2013-12-01 04:35:14 PM  

Tax Boy: Benevolent Misanthrope: Tax Boy: Benevolent Misanthrope:

The US is now looking north for a life raft.  I hope we can fend them off.

I'm sorry I can't hear you over the sound of American hockey teams winning

I'm sorry I can't hear you over the roar of curling stones.

Curling isn't a sport, just an excuse to drink beer. In which case, EVERYBODY WINS



It's kind of like a cross between shuffleboard and tidying up.
 
2013-12-01 04:43:10 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: The US is now looking north for a life raft.


No. We really don't think about you guys much. Sorry.
 
2013-12-01 04:52:30 PM  

flucto: Benevolent Misanthrope: The US is now looking north for a life raft.

No. We really don't think about you guys much. Sorry.


Your economists and industrialists think of us much more than you do.
 
2013-12-01 04:55:48 PM  

FloydA: Tax Boy: Benevolent Misanthrope: Tax Boy: Benevolent Misanthrope:

The US is now looking north for a life raft.  I hope we can fend them off.

I'm sorry I can't hear you over the sound of American hockey teams winning

I'm sorry I can't hear you over the roar of curling stones.

Curling isn't a sport, just an excuse to drink beer. In which case, EVERYBODY WINS


It's kind of like a cross between shuffleboard and tidying up.


With a side of chess and a helluva bar tab.
 
2013-12-01 04:57:04 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: FloydA: Tax Boy: Benevolent Misanthrope: Tax Boy: Benevolent Misanthrope:

The US is now looking north for a life raft.  I hope we can fend them off.

I'm sorry I can't hear you over the sound of American hockey teams winning

I'm sorry I can't hear you over the roar of curling stones.

Curling isn't a sport, just an excuse to drink beer. In which case, EVERYBODY WINS


It's kind of like a cross between shuffleboard and tidying up.

With a side of chess and a helluva bar tab.



Well yeah, but everything in Canada is like that.
 
2013-12-01 04:58:43 PM  

FloydA: Benevolent Misanthrope: FloydA: Tax Boy: Benevolent Misanthrope: Tax Boy: Benevolent Misanthrope:

The US is now looking north for a life raft.  I hope we can fend them off.

I'm sorry I can't hear you over the sound of American hockey teams winning

I'm sorry I can't hear you over the roar of curling stones.

Curling isn't a sport, just an excuse to drink beer. In which case, EVERYBODY WINS


It's kind of like a cross between shuffleboard and tidying up.

With a side of chess and a helluva bar tab.


Well yeah, but everything in Canada is like that.


True dat.
 
2013-12-01 04:59:46 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Your economists and industrialists think of us much more than you do.


I guess we ogle your resources but our economists like economies based on nothing.

//ex banker.
 
2013-12-01 05:29:57 PM  

Churchill2004: It always seemed odd and arbitrary that, as somebody living for example in Milwaukee, I should supposedly feel some connection to people living in Miami or Honolulu that I don't have with somebody in Toronto or Winnipeg. I think the US could easily handle open borders on both sides, but there's really no good reason to not have open borders and a common market with Canada.


A full on merger would never happen, but I do agree that opening the borders makes sense.  It used to be that you could go to and from Canada with just a US driver's license, now I'm pretty sure you need a passport (I haven't tried in ten years or so).  We should go back to the old way, the US/Canadian border doesn't need to be heavily guarded.

The US dollar and Canadian dollar have been near parity for quite a while as well.  I don't think we'd ever merge currencies like the EU, but it wouldn't be such a horrible idea.

As far as pipe dream stuff goes, I'd love for us to adopt the Canadian health care system.
 
2013-12-01 05:46:44 PM  
Depends.  Would Kinder Eggs become legal or illegal in this new country?
 
2013-12-01 06:02:30 PM  

whistleridge: flucto: I used to think that was inevitable as the Yurps merged more and more. The pressure to be bigger, etc. etc.

That was stupid. Why the hell would Cannuckistan want to join us? They should build a big ass wall.

Because we have better weather. 

I'm married to a Canadian. Canada is amazing. They have so many wonderful things, and their society is leaps and bounds ahead of ours.

...between April and October. 

The rest of ye--JESUS FARKING CHRIST ITS COLD I CANT WAIT TO GET HOME WHERE I BELONG!!!


Go to British Colombia.  Just don't forget your Wellies and rain coat. :P
 
2013-12-01 06:15:39 PM  
Eat shiat.
 
2013-12-01 06:16:41 PM  
I'm pretty sure Texas would finally make good on the threat to secede if that happened, so there's that.
 
2013-12-01 06:17:08 PM  

xanadian: whistleridge: flucto: I used to think that was inevitable as the Yurps merged more and more. The pressure to be bigger, etc. etc.

That was stupid. Why the hell would Cannuckistan want to join us? They should build a big ass wall.

Because we have better weather. 

I'm married to a Canadian. Canada is amazing. They have so many wonderful things, and their society is leaps and bounds ahead of ours.

...between April and October. 

The rest of ye--JESUS FARKING CHRIST ITS COLD I CANT WAIT TO GET HOME WHERE I BELONG!!!

Go to British Colombia.  Just don't forget your Wellies and rain coat. :P


She's from northern Quebec. You know...the part that is FURTHER NORTH OF MONTREAL THAN MONTREAL IS NORTH OF MIAMI:

img.fark.net
 
2013-12-01 06:17:40 PM  
Those Ameros aren't going to spend themselves.
 
2013-12-01 06:18:35 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: flucto: I used to think that was inevitable as the Yurps merged more and more. The pressure to be bigger, etc. etc.

That was stupid. Why the hell would Cannuckistan want to join us? They should build a big ass wall.

Don't think it hasn't crossed Canada's mind.

Canadians I talk to about economics believe that Canada has a far more robust economy than the US.  If you can't grow it, mine it, drill it up or ranch it, it's not real.  To oversimplify terribly, Canada has a resource-based economy.  The US economy is based on debt.  Our banks are more stable, because our banking system has more safeguards - because our mortgages and investment laws didn't follow all the "advancements" of the last 30-50 years in the US that made the housing collapse inevitable.  Come to think of it, it's kind of like the Galactica of banking, actually.

The US is now looking north for a life raft.  I hope we can fend them off.


Nonsense.

The US has just as much natural resources if not more.  Moreover, the assets on it;s balance sheet are much greater; in wealth, natural resources, future productivity, and people.

And it uses them to leverage new investment.  That's not a bad thing, and that's what every economy is built on.
 
2013-12-01 06:21:40 PM  
[howaboutno]
 
2013-12-01 06:25:04 PM  
Every part of Canada hates every other part of Canada.  Why would we want to join a country that even it hates?
 
2013-12-01 06:27:05 PM  
Don't do it, Canada

/some of us may need a place to go if the derp gets too thick
 
2013-12-01 06:33:07 PM  

flucto: I used to think that was inevitable as the Yurps merged more and more. The pressure to be bigger, etc. etc.

That was stupid. Why the hell would Cannuckistan want to join us? They should build a big ass wall.


They could get football and rap music, and we could get curling and health care.
 
2013-12-01 06:33:08 PM  
Just merge everything north of Costa Rica.
 
2013-12-01 06:34:12 PM  
You now it's coming. Best get your ameros now.

img.fark.net
 
2013-12-01 06:35:04 PM  

Without Fail: Just merge everything north of Costa Rica

Colombia.

Why not go whole-hog?
 
2013-12-01 06:35:28 PM  

Weaver95: [cdn.obsidianportal.com image 850x430]

UCAS forever baby!  yeah!


I was wondering when that was going to show up. We can always count on you *thumbsup*

/I'd chime in with 'Cal Free State Forever!'  but there's a Red Samurai glaring at me right now...
 
2013-12-01 06:36:30 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: Depends.  Would Kinder Eggs become legal or illegal in this new country?


Dragonlance party rule number one. KILL THE KINDER. They are never worth the trouble they cause.
 
2013-12-01 06:37:43 PM  
I just read that article. It was kinda silly. But, hey, it gets us snarking on United North America, so why not.
 
2013-12-01 06:39:32 PM  
What could Canada possibly gain from this? It's not as if they aren't getting their fair share of technology and food from USA already. They don't need a bigger military. All I see is USA exploiting their natural resources.
 
2013-12-01 06:39:33 PM  
Have lived in both. Will give this "concept" a pass. Nice to visit amurika but will pass on a union.
 
2013-12-01 06:39:45 PM  
This won't be enough drama

Now, if you were to talk about forcibly merging Pakistan with India, now THAT would be entertaining

/Dunno if the Urban legend is true or not, but when I was in Iraq, I heard of a story of Indian workers brawling with Pakistanis at a dining facility. As I said, I dunno its veracity.
 
2013-12-01 06:40:21 PM  

flucto: I used to think that was inevitable as the Yurps merged more and more. The pressure to be bigger, etc. etc.

That was stupid. Why the hell would Cannuckistan want to join us? They should build a big ass wall.


Pretty much this. Plus politicians on both sides of the border would fear a lessening of their power, and would sabotage the idea
 
2013-12-01 06:41:34 PM  
Cool,  they would help pay off our debt.    And Canada would finally get a military.   win win
 
2013-12-01 06:43:08 PM  
Not until you stop being a fear nation and stop being such assholes towards each other.
 
2013-12-01 06:43:14 PM  
Oh, hells yes the US and Canada should merge. It's the only way to achieve a United Federation of Planets.
 
2013-12-01 06:48:03 PM  
If we (the US) get legalized weed and regulated prostitution, I'm all for it.
 
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