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(Slate)   Playwright for Spider-Man: Turn Off the Dark explains just what went disastrously wrong with the biggest Broadway mistake since someone opened up a Chicago style pizza joint next to the theater   (slate.com) divider line 37
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2013-12-01 05:19:17 PM
So....New Yorkers finally being able to buy pizza kept the audiences away?
 
2013-12-01 05:37:35 PM
Well without reading TFA, I'm going to take a guess that besides all the deaths, I would imagine that the Venn diagram of Broadway musical fans and comic book fans probably looks something like this

O O

 
2013-12-01 05:43:54 PM

Mugato: Well without reading TFA, I'm going to take a guess that besides all the deaths, I would imagine that the Venn diagram of Broadway musical fans and comic book fans probably looks something like this

O O


Reminds me of the time I heard a techno remix of a Hootie and the Blowfish song. Who is *that* for, exactly?
 
2013-12-01 06:00:44 PM

fusillade762: Mugato: Well without reading TFA, I'm going to take a guess that besides all the deaths, I would imagine that the Venn diagram of Broadway musical fans and comic book fans probably looks something like this

O O

Reminds me of the time I heard a techno remix of a Hootie and the Blowfish song. Who is *that* for, exactly?


People who want to try things outside of their comfort zone? Broadway nerds who are looking for a familiar entry into "this comics thing" that seems to be all over the place lately? Techno fans who may not even remember who Hootie and the Blowfish even were, and just want a song that's interesting and different?

"there are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio..." and all that.
 
2013-12-01 06:05:50 PM

fusillade762: Mugato: Well without reading TFA, I'm going to take a guess that besides all the deaths, I would imagine that the Venn diagram of Broadway musical fans and comic book fans probably looks something like this

O O

Reminds me of the time I heard a techno remix of a Hootie and the Blowfish song. Who is *that* for, exactly?


Just like during the rage of Disco, DJ's and composers were reworking popular songs to be used in the clubs.Everyone was disco'ing the shiat out of everything..

then came the new rage of the club kids the childern of the people who went to the disco's, house music and techno, fueled by Ecstasy , replaced the Disco that was fueled by cocaine. The Limelite replaced Studeo54.

that is who that was for.. assholes, tweaked out on E and special K  who would dance to anything. And, By god, I was one of those assholes
 
2013-12-01 06:10:48 PM
Cerebral Knievel:  Just like during the rage of Disco, DJ's and composers were reworking popular songs to be used in the clubs.Everyone was disco'ing the shiat out of everything..

then came the new rage of the club kids the childern of the people who went to the disco's, house music and techno, fueled by Ecstasy , replaced the Disco that was fueled by cocaine. The Limelite replaced Studeo54.

that is who that was for.. assholes, tweaked out on E and special K  who would dance to anything. And, By god, I was one of those assholes


Go home, Grandpa, you're drunk.
 
2013-12-01 06:10:51 PM

Mugato: Well without reading TFA, I'm going to take a guess that besides all the deaths, I would imagine that the Venn diagram of Broadway musical fans and comic book fans probably looks something like this

O O


I could see it appealing to tourists.  Picture The SImpsons:

Marge: "Homer, you promised me for our anniversary, you'd take me to a Broadway play."
Homer: "Fiiiiine.  What do want to see?"
"Well, this one is based on the critically acclaimed, 19th century French novel by..."
"NEXT!"
"Okay.  This one is set in a French opera house, in the 1800s..."
"BOR-RING!"
"T.S. Elliot's magical world of talking cats comes to life in...
"Ugggghhhh..."
"Fine.  A boy's model train set comes to life through the magic of roller-disco."
"Oh come on, Marge.  Now you're just making things up."
Bart: "Hey, this one's got Spider-Man!"
Bart & Homer, in unison: "SPI-DER-MAN! SPI-DER-MAN! SPI-DER-MAN!"
Marge: "Hrrrmmmmph.  Fine, we'll see the stupid Spider-Man play."
Homer: "I love legitimate theater."
 
2013-12-01 06:11:18 PM

Mugato: Well without reading TFA, I'm going to take a guess that besides all the deaths, I would imagine that the Venn diagram of Broadway musical fans and comic book fans probably looks something like this

O O


Someone, at some point, actually thought there was some overlap:
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2013-12-01 06:30:26 PM

Cerebral Knievel: fusillade762: Mugato: Well without reading TFA, I'm going to take a guess that besides all the deaths, I would imagine that the Venn diagram of Broadway musical fans and comic book fans probably looks something like this

O O

Reminds me of the time I heard a techno remix of a Hootie and the Blowfish song. Who is *that* for, exactly?

Just like during the rage of Disco, DJ's and composers were reworking popular songs to be used in the clubs.Everyone was disco'ing the shiat out of everything..

then came the new rage of the club kids the childern of the people who went to the disco's, house music and techno, fueled by Ecstasy , replaced the Disco that was fueled by cocaine. The Limelite replaced Studeo54.

that is who that was for.. assholes, tweaked out on E and special K  who would dance to anything. And, By god, I was one of those assholes


I totally read this like Johnny Depp narrating Blow 2.
 
2013-12-01 06:38:31 PM
Caelistis:
Go home, Grandpa, you're drunk.

don't tell me what to do you little punk and GET. OFF. MY. LAWN

o/~ weee can sing, weee can dance, having the time of our lives... o/~
 
2013-12-01 06:46:05 PM

Sgt Otter: I could see it appealing to tourists.  Picture The SImpsons:


I'll admit that if I were the Homer character in that scenario, Spider-Man would be the way to go. Not that I would have a wife that would be into Broadway musicals. Anyway, I don't think that particular scenario would fill a...what do they call it? It's not a stadium....whatever.

I thought I heard they were moving it to Vegas (if they said so in TFA, I didn't read it). That I think is a much more proper venue for something like this. And when the performers accidentally kill themselves you can just bury them in the desert with the card counters.
 
2013-12-01 06:46:53 PM

Sgt Otter: Mugato: Well without reading TFA, I'm going to take a guess that besides all the deaths, I would imagine that the Venn diagram of Broadway musical fans and comic book fans probably looks something like this

O O

I could see it appealing to tourists.  Picture The SImpsons:

Marge: "Homer, you promised me for our anniversary, you'd take me to a Broadway play."
Homer: "Fiiiiine.  What do want to see?"
"Well, this one is based on the critically acclaimed, 19th century French novel by..."
"NEXT!"
"Okay.  This one is set in a French opera house, in the 1800s..."
"BOR-RING!"
"T.S. Elliot's magical world of talking cats comes to life in...
"Ugggghhhh..."
"Fine.  A boy's model train set comes to life through the magic of roller-disco."
"Oh come on, Marge.  Now you're just making things up."
Bart: "Hey, this one's got Spider-Man!"
Bart & Homer, in unison: "SPI-DER-MAN! SPI-DER-MAN! SPI-DER-MAN!"
Marge: "Hrrrmmmmph.  Fine, we'll see the stupid Spider-Man play."
Homer: "I love legitimate theater."


That's funnier than 95% of the anything the Simpsons has done in the past decade.
 
2013-12-01 06:48:23 PM
They loaded it up with subliminal dick-sucking messages but comic book nerds weren't bringing their SOs with them.
 
2013-12-01 06:53:54 PM
That play has more deaths and serious injuries than any Marvel story arc.
 
2013-12-01 07:07:53 PM

Cerebral Knievel: don't tell me what to do you little punk and GET. OFF. MY. LAWN

o/~ weee can sing, weee can dance, having the time of our lives... o/~


That's Mr. Johnson's yard, Grandpa, and for God's sake will you put on some pants before the van from the retirement home gets here?
 
2013-12-01 07:31:02 PM
How many shares in the production were available, and how many did they sell?
 
2013-12-01 07:45:01 PM
I want to see a musical based on Grumpy Cat.
 
2013-12-01 08:29:10 PM
I've walked by there nearly daily for two years and had no idea the story involved Arachne and Spider-man's mythical roots.  Good God, someone thought that was a good idea?  Holy shiat.
 
2013-12-01 09:01:04 PM

Uzzah: fusillade762: Mugato: Well without reading TFA, I'm going to take a guess that besides all the deaths, I would imagine that the Venn diagram of Broadway musical fans and comic book fans probably looks something like this

O O

Reminds me of the time I heard a techno remix of a Hootie and the Blowfish song. Who is *that* for, exactly?

People who want to try things outside of their comfort zone? Broadway nerds who are looking for a familiar entry into "this comics thing" that seems to be all over the place lately? Techno fans who may not even remember who Hootie and the Blowfish even were, and just want a song that's interesting and different?

"there are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio..." and all that.


What's the guy from CSI: Miami got to do with this?
 
2013-12-01 09:38:51 PM
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2013-12-01 09:48:02 PM

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: I've walked by there nearly daily for two years and had no idea the story involved Arachne and Spider-man's mythical roots.  Good God, someone thought that was a good idea?  Holy shiat.


The Spiderman play really is a classic example hiring an edgy artist who has had enough success in their past to the point where everyone is afraid to question the artist. Even to the point where enough damage has been done that it's too late.

The other interesting sidebar is that I know a lot of expensive shows now "are built" out of New York so they can tweak them before premiering on Broadway. I don't know if Taymor had any say in this choice...but it sounds like they could've done a starting run in Boston or Chicago to get things right before NY. But I can certainly see her using her credentials to convince everyone that a test run would not be needed as long as they "stayed on vision."
 
2013-12-01 10:34:34 PM

wildcardjack: They loaded it up with subliminal dick-sucking messages but comic book nerds weren't bringing their SOs with them.

don't have SOs.

FTFY.
 
2013-12-01 10:36:41 PM
Their first problem was the title. they try to be cute with "Turn off the dark". Should have came up with a title a little less of a head scratcher.
 
2013-12-01 11:14:52 PM
I think the real problem is that it was a musical about Spiderman, for christsakes. I mean, I never found myself thinking as a kid "Gee, you know what would make this battle with the Green Goblin better? Singing!"
 
2013-12-02 12:35:06 AM

kermit the forg: I think the real problem is that it was a musical about Spiderman, for christsakes. I mean, I never found myself thinking as a kid "Gee, you know what would make this battle with the Green Goblin better? Singing!"


So much THIS. Who thought this was a good idea and why?
 
2013-12-02 01:07:14 AM
snowshovel:
The other interesting sidebar is that I know a lot of expensive shows now "are built" out of New York so they can tweak them before premiering on Broadway. I don't know if Taymor had any say in this choice...but it sounds like they could've done a starting run in Boston or Chicago to get things right before NY. But I can certainly see her using her credentials to convince everyone that a test run would not be needed as long as they "stayed on vision."

Testing & tweaking shows are as old as Broadway itself. Half the screwball comedies of the 30s & 40s seem to involve testing shows in the hinterlands of Pennsylvania.

But the big problem was that the elaborate rigging needed for Spider-Man was too expensive to move around and adapt for different theaters. At least, that's the excuse they gave.
 
2013-12-02 03:07:53 AM

Khazar-Khum: But the big problem was that the elaborate rigging needed for Spider-Man was too expensive to move around and adapt for different theaters. At least, that's the excuse they gave.


And yet, Batman Live toured successfully. Lots of wirework in that arena show, and the musical cues made it seem like they were always on the verge of breaking into song.
 
2013-12-02 04:53:28 AM

Uzzah: People who want to try things outside of their comfort zone? Broadway nerds who are looking for a familiar entry into "this comics thing" that seems to be all over the place lately? Techno fans who may not even remember who Hootie and the Blowfish even were, and just want a song that's interesting and different?


But actually, most people don't. If they did, Julia Roberts and Tom Cruise wouldn't be commanding $10m+ a film. Their value isn't in their acting, it's in the familiarity. People who watch shiatty movies and think Julia Roberts is good, because they've not seen much else, will keep watching shiatty Julia Roberts movies (Erin Brockovitch is a rather good movie spoiled by some horrible overacting).
 
2013-12-02 07:11:36 AM
The origin story took up so much of Act 1, it should be called "Peter Parker: Turn Off The Dork."

Also, who makes a musical that has zero chance to tour, and that no HS or community theater would ever consider?
 
2013-12-02 07:55:17 AM

Rising_Zan_Samurai_Gunman: wildcardjack: They loaded it up with subliminal dick-sucking messages but comic book nerds weren't bringing their SOs with them. don't have SOs.

FTFY.


Wow, what an apt stereotype. Is it 1980 already?
 
2013-12-02 09:50:30 AM
We're taking our kids this weekend since they are blowing out the remaining shows at $50 a pop.
The majority of broadway musicals these days are 'jukebox' shows where it's a series of unrelated songs tied together with a paper-thin story line. I can't believe people pay money for them.
The best musical I've seen recently was actually 'Frozen'. I was surprised at how it was structured exactly like a classic musical and I was really missing the showstopping song at the end.
 
2013-12-02 11:17:13 AM

snowshovel: The Spiderman play really is a classic example hiring an edgy artist who has had enough success in their past to the point where everyone is afraid to question the artist. Even to the point where enough damage has been done that it's too late.


I have no idea why Julie Taymor commands that kind of respect, most of her ideas have been crap.
 
2013-12-02 11:42:57 AM
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Hey. When I eat a pizza I don't expect to DROWN in it. Also, Spiderman Turn off the Dark sucked.
 
2013-12-02 11:44:56 AM
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That Spiderman musical was amazing! I got three blow jobs after the show!
 
2013-12-02 01:55:38 PM

Brainsick: Mugato: Well without reading TFA, I'm going to take a guess that besides all the deaths, I would imagine that the Venn diagram of Broadway musical fans and comic book fans probably looks something like this

O O

Someone, at some point, actually thought there was some overlap:
[farm8.static.flickr.com image 378x500][3.bp.blogspot.com image 238x320]


Wow; a LOT of people were doing the booger sugar back in the day weren't they?
 
2013-12-02 03:54:55 PM

Brainsick: Mugato: Well without reading TFA, I'm going to take a guess that besides all the deaths, I would imagine that the Venn diagram of Broadway musical fans and comic book fans probably looks something like this

O O

Someone, at some point, actually thought there was some overlap:
[farm8.static.flickr.com image 378x500][3.bp.blogspot.com image 238x320]


I'm not sure that is really in the same category as a superhero comic book. That looks like something that would much more lend itself to a lavish Broadway musical than farking Spider-Man, come on.
 
2013-12-02 11:39:04 PM

Mugato: Brainsick: Mugato: Well without reading TFA, I'm going to take a guess that besides all the deaths, I would imagine that the Venn diagram of Broadway musical fans and comic book fans probably looks something like this

O O

Someone, at some point, actually thought there was some overlap:
[farm8.static.flickr.com image 378x500][3.bp.blogspot.com image 238x320]

I'm not sure that is really in the same category as a superhero comic book. That looks like something that would much more lend itself to a lavish Broadway musical than farking Spider-Man, come on.


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