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(BBC)   Protesters and security forces continue to play chicken in Kiev   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 28
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2013-12-01 04:30:27 PM
Is Putin gonna have to go in there and start choking biatches?
 
2013-12-01 04:33:34 PM

Bslim: Is Putin gonna have to go in there and start choking biatches?


You mean choke those chickens?
 
2013-12-01 04:38:33 PM
" The US Ambassador to Kiev, Geoffrey Pyatt, ... said he "obviously" condemned the violence against peaceful demonstrators, adding: "Will have more to say.""

the American Occupy movement might beg to differ

has P**** Riot been released yet? (the phone did the asterisks not me )
 
2013-12-01 04:43:22 PM
+1 for the headline

/why yes I'm hungry now
 
2013-12-01 04:50:59 PM

JustinCase: " The US Ambassador to Kiev, Geoffrey Pyatt, ... said he "obviously" condemned the violence against peaceful demonstrators, adding: "Will have more to say.""

the American Occupy movement might beg to differ

has P**** Riot been released yet? (the phone did the asterisks not me )


You have a phone that censors p****?  Hey, what the h***?
 
2013-12-01 04:55:54 PM
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2013-12-01 05:03:34 PM
" The US Ambassador to Kiev, Geoffrey Pyatt, ... said he "obviously" condemned the violence against peaceful demonstrators, adding: "Will have more to say.""

the American Occupy movement might beg to differ

has P**** Riot been released yet? (the phone did the asterisks, not me )
 
2013-12-01 05:05:42 PM
[Yanukovych] said pressure from Russia had led him to make this decision.


Kiev gotta be kidding me.
 
2013-12-01 05:11:36 PM
 
2013-12-01 05:16:22 PM
Security forces?

FTFA: "It was horrible. We were holding a peaceful demonstration and they attacked us," said protester Lada Tromada

 Whose security?
 
2013-12-01 05:26:11 PM
FTFA: "The times of limited sovereignty are over in Europe," said European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso.

Well, that's funny coming from an EU bureaucrat.

/still better than kowtowing to Russia, though
 
2013-12-01 05:37:57 PM
Ooops. sorry
 
2013-12-01 05:40:28 PM

JustinCase: the American Occupy movement might beg to differ


You knew this comparison was coming.  Anyway, there are significant differences.

1. Occupy protesters were initially tolerated and sometimes even welcomed by civic leaders in the US
2. Then, as the weeks rolled, it became clear that Occupy wasn't really protesting anything specific and was actually just a bunch of hippies using Wall Street abuses as an excuse hold their social event on nice public land
3. It was also becoming clear that Occupy was a public health issue and nuisance, was denying use of public land to the public, and was preventing appropriate upkeep
4. Then they were evicted relatively peacefully

Constrast to Ukraine, where

1. Protesters had been there only for a couple days
2. They were protesting something very specific and it wasn't (just) an excuse for hippies to hold a party on public land
3. They were evicted with relative violence

On the continuum of balance between free speech rights and public safety and property rights, Ukraine is much further down the line.
 
2013-12-01 06:03:03 PM
upload.wikimedia.org

Chicken Kiev is delicious.
 
2013-12-01 06:10:04 PM

JustinCase: " The US Ambassador to Kiev, Geoffrey Pyatt, ... said he "obviously" condemned the violence against peaceful demonstrators, adding: "Will have more to say.""

the American Occupy movement might beg to differ

has P**** Riot been released yet? (the phone did the asterisks not me )


Do I have to explain the differences between Russia and Ukraine?

/Russia has Pussy Riot activists in the jail, is Putin, and is big
/Ukraine has no Pussy Riot activist in the jail, is not Putin, and is weak
 
2013-12-01 06:14:08 PM

JustinCase: " The US Ambassador to Kiev, Geoffrey Pyatt, ... said he "obviously" condemned the violence against peaceful demonstrators, adding: "Will have more to say.""

the American Occupy movement might beg to differ

has P**** Riot been released yet? (the phone did the asterisks not me )


What happened in Kyiv is nowhere near, it can not compare to what happened with your stoooooooopid "occupy".
Wish you were at the "Maidan".
 
2013-12-01 06:28:52 PM

traylor: JustinCase: " The US Ambassador to Kiev, Geoffrey Pyatt, ... said he "obviously" condemned the violence against peaceful demonstrators, adding: "Will have more to say.""

the American Occupy movement might beg to differ

has P**** Riot been released yet? (the phone did the asterisks not me )

Do I have to explain the differences between Russia and Ukraine?

/Russia has Pussy Riot activists in the jail, is Putin, and is big
/Ukraine has no Pussy Riot activist in the jail, is not Putin, and is weak


Agreed, the Ukraine is WEAK!
 
2013-12-01 06:34:55 PM
Putin has Pussy Riot, and Ukraine has Tymoshenko:
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-12-01 06:38:32 PM
Wow, it's kind of hard to tell whether Europe's struck an amazing ideological blow for itself, or Russia's managed to earn enough fear to make this happen.  Getting into compliance with all the EU regulations is going to be very, very expensive for Ukraine, nor is there any guarantee that joining will actually be economically beneficial (Croatia just joined and, oh, wow, guess who needs an IMF bailout now).  But the people perceive EU membership, in opposition to joining Russia's new "Customs Union," as being of far more importance, much of it relating to notions of freedom.  Is the EU that well respected or Russia that much feared?
 
2013-12-01 07:37:12 PM

sage254: Putin has Pussy Riot, and Ukraine has Tymoshenko:
[upload.wikimedia.org image 620x388]


They also have Viktor "Polonium" Yushchenko, if anyone needs to be reminded what happens to you if you mess with Putin.

On the opposite side there is also the former WBC heavyweight champion Vitali Klitschko. You can see him here breaking up a fight between protesters and the police.

/I'd really like to see a bare hand fight between Klitschko and Putin
/heavyweight boxer vs black belt taekwondo, who wins?
 
2013-12-01 07:49:26 PM

telemakhos: nor is there any guarantee that joining will actually be economically beneficial (Croatia just joined and, oh, wow, guess who needs an IMF bailout now).


Wow, EU sucks
 
2013-12-01 07:53:39 PM

traylor: /I'd really like to see a bare hand fight between Klitschko and Putin
/heavyweight boxer vs black belt taekwondo, who wins?


Link, The foundation's president, Chungwon Choue, awarded Putin an honorary ninth-degree black belt certificate and a taekwondo uniform in recognition the president's work in developing taekwondo in Russia.
 
2013-12-01 08:35:39 PM
 
2013-12-01 09:39:36 PM

BullBearMS: aerojockey: 1. Occupy protesters were initially tolerated and sometimes even welcomed by civic leaders in the US

Oh, Really?

It was more sophisticated than we had imagined: new documents show that the violent crackdown on Occupy last fall - so mystifying at the time - was not just coordinated at the level of the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security, and local police. The crackdown, which involved, as you may recall, violent arrests, group disruption, canister missiles to the skulls of protesters, people held in handcuffs so tight they were injured, people held in bondage till they were forced to wet or soil themselves -was coordinated with the big banks themselves.


http://www.amazon.com/Reynolds-Wrap-Aluminum-Foil-Pack/dp/B001R2NM5U
 
2013-12-01 10:11:40 PM

aerojockey: BullBearMS: aerojockey: 1. Occupy protesters were initially tolerated and sometimes even welcomed by civic leaders in the US

Oh, Really?

It was more sophisticated than we had imagined: new documents show that the violent crackdown on Occupy last fall - so mystifying at the time - was not just coordinated at the level of the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security, and local police. The crackdown, which involved, as you may recall, violent arrests, group disruption, canister missiles to the skulls of protesters, people held in handcuffs so tight they were injured, people held in bondage till they were forced to wet or soil themselves -was coordinated with the big banks themselves.

http://www.amazon.com/Reynolds-Wrap-Aluminum-Foil-Pack/dp/B001R2NM5U


FBI documents obtained through the Freedom of Information Act require tinfoil in your damaged little mind?

The documents show stunning range: in Denver, Colorado, that branch of the FBI and a "Bank Fraud Working Group" met in November 2011 - during the Occupy protests - to surveil the group. The Federal Reserve of Richmond, Virginia had its own private security surveilling Occupy Tampa and Tampa Veterans for Peace and passing privately-collected information on activists back to the Richmond FBI, which, in turn, categorized OWS activities under its "domestic terrorism" unit. The Anchorage, Alaska "terrorism task force" was watching Occupy Anchorage. The Jackson, Mississippi "joint terrorism task force" was issuing a "counterterrorism preparedness alert" about the ill-organized grandmas and college sophomores in Occupy there. Also in Jackson, Mississippi, the FBI and the "Bank Security Group" - multiple private banks - met to discuss the reaction to "National Bad Bank Sit-in Day" (the response was violent, as you may recall). The Virginia FBI sent that state's Occupy members' details to the Virginia terrorism fusion center. The Memphis FBI tracked OWS under its "joint terrorism task force" aegis, too. And so on, for over 100 pages.

The banks coordinated with the feds to treat peaceful American protestors like terrorists.
 
2013-12-01 10:46:34 PM
It's a shame Yanukovych is such a coward.
 
2013-12-02 02:35:21 AM

BullBearMS: The banks coordinated with the feds to treat peaceful

disruptive American protestors land squatters like terrorists typical troublemakers.
 
2013-12-02 09:39:36 AM

aerojockey: BullBearMS: The banks coordinated with the feds to treat peaceful disruptive American protestors land squatters like terrorists typical troublemakers.


You mean they were protesting the banks destroying the economy in public spaces???

The horror.

Thank goodness the Feds worked with the Banks to put a stop to that.

/Right of assembly.
//Not yours
 
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