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(MSNBC)   Let us take a break from the "war on christmas" & "omg healthcare.gov is still broken" and examine how farked up North Carolina is again   (msnbc.com ) divider line
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2013-12-01 03:59:42 PM  
Still really messed up here...
 
2013-12-01 04:01:21 PM  
North Carolina has said no to expanding Medicaid under Obamacare, approved a tax plan that redistributes wealth from poor to rich, cut education by half a billion dollars, instituted perhaps the toughest voting restrictions in the country, weakened campaign-finance laws, and passed its own version of Texas' controversial abortion measure.

So... Republican Heaven then?

But, but, but a website isn't 100% efficient! Umbrellaghazi! Arugulagate!!
 
2013-12-01 04:03:09 PM  
north carolina hard right shift hits roadblock.

You'd think those NASCAR fans would know all you hit is a roadblock if you shift to the right. ..
 
2013-12-01 04:10:36 PM  
I know people in North Carolina and I hear it's a great state, but sometimes you have to hit rock bottom before you realize what a dumbass you were. Hopefully this experience will make people think twice about voting for Republicans.
 
2013-12-01 04:10:38 PM  
If North Carolina could somehow prevent the federal nanny state from supplying handouts to its people in the form of SNAP, TANF & WIC, they'd have a true Republican Paradise!

/Move farther this way -------------------------------------- ----->
 
2013-12-01 04:12:30 PM  

theorellior: I know people in North Carolina and I hear it's a great state, but sometimes you have to hit rock bottom before you realize what a dumbass you were. Hopefully this experience will make people think twice about voting for Republicans.


We had it too nice for a long time. Apparently a large chunk of us got so complacent that they completely forgot what A Republican sweep would really be like.

Hopefully they won't stay at home next election. And hopefully we can swing back enough to fix some of this mess.
 
2013-12-01 04:17:21 PM  

RepublicanTalkingPoints: If North Carolina could somehow prevent the federal nanny state from supplying handouts to its people in the form of SNAP, TANF & WIC, they'd have a true Republican Paradise!

/Move farther this way -------------------------------------- ----->


But if NC cut those programs, the state's Wal-Mart stores would lose a major income stream and subsidy.

// Remember kids, it's a gubment handout if you or I get it; if it's a corporation, then it's a public-private partnership.
 
2013-12-01 04:18:40 PM  
Another good article from the Charlotte Observer today...

The source of all McCrory's troubles?

"Moderate voters in Charlotte and across the state are kicking themselves for supporting consensus-building "Mayor Pat" only to find that Gov. Pat McCrory can be quite different. But my interview with him last week and a breakfast with him a couple weeks earlier make clear he hasn't changed a bit in one respect: This is a man obsessed with his image and how he's portrayed. It's clear he doesn't go a day without being deeply frustrated by what he sees as unfair attacks on his good name."

ends with...

"There's much more he sees, but you get the idea. Most of McCrory's troubles stem, in his mind, not from his support of policies that a majority of North Carolinians disagree with but from a media that, through bias or incompetency, just can't understand his greatness."

McCrory is so unpopular that he needed his cronies to launch a TV media campaign to promote him because of record low polling numbers - despite the next election for governor being in 2016.  The media campaign did not help - McCrory still has lower popularity ratings than crack-smoking Mayor Ford of Toronto.
 
2013-12-01 04:20:45 PM  

timswar: theorellior: I know people in North Carolina and I hear it's a great state, but sometimes you have to hit rock bottom before you realize what a dumbass you were. Hopefully this experience will make people think twice about voting for Republicans.

We had it too nice for a long time. Apparently a large chunk of us got so complacent that they completely forgot what A Republican sweep would really be like.

Hopefully they won't stay at home next election. And hopefully we can swing back enough to fix some of this mess.


mimg.ugo.com

That's all right. These things gotta happen every five years or so, ten years. Helps to get rid of the bad blood. Been ten years since the last one.
 
2013-12-01 04:21:20 PM  

theorellior: I know people in North Carolina and I hear it's a great state, but sometimes you have to hit rock bottom before you realize what a dumbass you were. Hopefully this experience will make people think twice about voting for Republicans.


Except that the rest of us will eventually have to pay for the damage caused by these assholes.
 
2013-12-01 04:29:05 PM  
Message to all sane people: you have to vote in EVERY election. Because the crazies do, for sure.
 
2013-12-01 04:33:22 PM  
McCrory has always been a snake-oil salesman. He campaigned for Governor as the 'good ol' boy' who will 'fix what's wrong with NC' without being specific. Meanwhile his opponent, Walter Dalton, had to hurry into the campaign when the sitting governor, Bev Purdue, announced late she wasn't going to run for re-election. The problem in NC isn't McCrory, although he's been nothing but a rubber stamp. The problem is the legislature, which is dominated by conservatives in both houses. The conservatives ran on a "we aren't Democrats" platform in 2010 and a "jobs jobs jobs" platform in 2010, and way too many single-issue voters believed them despite the warning signs. The Democratic Party in NC has had it way too easy for decades here; they fielded weak candidates or the same old recycled ones for state legislature, and were surprised by the amount of money poured into the state Republican campaigns from groups like the Koch Brothers and ALEC.

Once they got in power, the first thing they did was redistrict the state legislative districts, then the Congressional House districts. After that they literally fell over themselves in their haste to undo what they saw as Democratic policies on business development, environmental legislation, education, local government power, voting rights, abortion rights, taxes, healthcare and government in general. McCrory lowered the pay grade level for protected government employees to the point where even front line workers can now be dismissed without cause at his whim, and has appointed many of his campaign workers and contributors to government positions at highly inflated salaries, many with little or questionable experience in that field.

Oh, and jobs are still scarce in the rural counties, despite the 'focus on jobs' McCrory and the legislature promised while they campaigned. The cities are doing better but they always would have been the first to recover anyway. Now the voters in those rural areas are starting to wake up that they got played for fools, but I'm still concerned there are far too many single issue voters who'll re-elect the same idiots they elected back in 2010 and 2012.
 
2013-12-01 04:35:06 PM  
My wife and I lived there for 2.5 years in the Triangle area.  We said they needed to change their state motto to, "North Carolina, Poorly Planned."
 
2013-12-01 04:36:07 PM  

ghare: Message to all sane people: you have to vote in EVERY election. Because the crazies do, for sure.


And, it's like what, once or twice a year MAX.  It's just sad how many people don't vote.  Unless you're the sort of person that participates in open mic time at city council meetings or writes your congressthing, it's truly the only way to get your opinions heard.  Yelling at the TV while the news is on and commenting on the internets doesn't do jack shiat.
 
2013-12-01 04:38:19 PM  
quatchi:

So... Republican Heaven then?

Well, it would be if all those damn stubborn poors would just hurry up and die.
 
2013-12-01 04:39:19 PM  
The problem with North Carolina rhymes with "Fart Dope."
 
2013-12-01 04:39:39 PM  

ghare: Message to all sane people: you have to vote in EVERY election. Because the crazies do, for sure.


It may not matter because of gerrymandering. I think NC will be farked for a long time.
 
2013-12-01 04:40:56 PM  

Elmo Jones: The problem with North Carolina rhymes with "Fart Dope."


Mart Soap?
 
2013-12-01 04:42:02 PM  
Christmas is fighting back. One radio station started playing christmas songs a few days before thanksgiving.

You just know that it's going to creep earlier and earlier until we go right from halloween into the christmas season on Nov 1.
 
2013-12-01 04:44:12 PM  
North Carolina did do SOMETHING worthwhile: requiring universities to allow students the right to legal council when facing penalties from their schools regarding a CRIMINAL offense.  As in, the school could kick a student out for something they think MAY have happened, like theft, harassment, or even rape (50.01% likelihood while allowing hearsay and placing the burden of proof on the accused versus higher standards of due process in actually criminal hearings).  This is also while using unqualified individuals such as deans, administrators, or students as judges and juries.

What is truly worrisome is that universities can still ban a student if they are found non-guilty in an actual court of law.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/09/09/north-carolina- st udents-right-to-attorney-college/2786691/
 
2013-12-01 04:44:20 PM  

theorellior: I know people in North Carolina and I hear it's a great state, but sometimes you have to hit rock bottom before you realize what a dumbass you were. Hopefully this experience will make people think twice about voting for Republicans.


Nah. In the typical republican BS way of "thinking", if your right wing extremist plans aren't working or blow up in your face, it's not because your right wing extremist plans are farked up and impossible to achieve in the real world. It's because some liberals sabotaged it.

Remember, these are the cretins who think Mitt "F*ck the lower 47%!" Romney lost because "he wasn't conservative enough". God help us all when they find some mouth-foaming candidate who is.
 
2013-12-01 04:45:48 PM  
HAHAHAHA! No butthurt like Liberal butthurt!

Tell you what. You let North Carolina go their way, and I'll let the People's Republic of California go their way, and we'll see who's better off in ten years.

/don't like it? Move.
//I'm getting the fark out of New Jersey. It's heading the same way as California
 
2013-12-01 04:51:17 PM  

mark12A: HAHAHAHA! No butthurt like Liberal butthurt!

Tell you what. You let North Carolina go their way, and I'll let the People's Republic of California go their way, and we'll see who's better off in ten years.

/don't like it? Move.
//I'm getting the fark out of New Jersey. It's heading the same way as California


driber.net
 
2013-12-01 04:51:48 PM  

mark12A: HAHAHAHA! No butthurt like Liberal butthurt!

Tell you what. You let North Carolina go their way, and I'll let the People's Republic of California go their way, and we'll see who's better off in ten years.

/don't like it? Move.
//I'm getting the fark out of New Jersey. It's heading the same way as California


I guarantee California comes out better.
 
2013-12-01 04:53:33 PM  

quatchi: But, but, but a website isn't 100% efficient!


Indeed.
 
2013-12-01 04:56:17 PM  

mark12A: HAHAHAHA! No butthurt like Liberal butthurt!

Tell you what. You let North Carolina go their way, and I'll let the People's Republic of California go their way, and we'll see who's better off in ten years.

/don't like it? Move.
//I'm getting the fark out of New Jersey. It's heading the same way as California


Have fun in whatever rightard totalitarian sh*thole you'll immigrate to, chump. You'll soon find out that unless you happen to have ten million dollars in an offshore bank account, you'll be treated like peasant just like everyone else.

Then again, non-billionaire who votes GOP apparently licks the boots that presses down on their necks.

Enjoy your boot.
 
2013-12-01 04:58:32 PM  

Bonzo_1116: or writes your congressthing, it's truly the only way to get your opinions heard. Yelling at the TV while the news is on and commenting on the internets doesn't do jack shiat.


i live in LA. i write my governor, both senators and representative regularly. they may hear me but i don't see the results i wrote about.

but hey Obama blows me off too so it's consistent. i started left in 2004 disgusted by Bush and all that was going on. and i've kept going left disgusted by what passes for centrism now and the rights decent into cloud cuckoo land. how in the name of all that is holy did any tea party person anywhere get more than one or two votes?

that was rhetorical, no need to reply.
 
2013-12-01 04:59:07 PM  

TV's Vinnie: Then again, non-billionaire who votes GOP apparently licks the boots that presses down on their necks.

Enjoy your boot.


Ironically, there's a ton of places in San Francisco where he would feel right at home.
 
2013-12-01 04:59:17 PM  
FTFA: Republican lawmakers, too, have taken a major hit. A year before legislative elections, PPP shows Democratic candidates with a 2-point edge-a massive swing from 2010 when the GOP retook both the Assembly and Senate by a ten-point margin.

It ain't gonna be enough, unless the Democrats GOTV.  This state is gerrymandered to hell and gone.
 
2013-12-01 05:00:49 PM  

timswar: theorellior: I know people in North Carolina and I hear it's a great state, but sometimes you have to hit rock bottom before you realize what a dumbass you were. Hopefully this experience will make people think twice about voting for Republicans.

We had it too nice for a long time. Apparently a large chunk of us got so complacent that they completely forgot what A Republican sweep would really be like.

Hopefully they won't stay at home next election. And hopefully we can swing back enough to fix some of this mess.


Due to voter restrictions that have been enacted, they may not be able to actually get their vote to count.
 
2013-12-01 05:01:19 PM  
I guarantee California comes out better.

Doubtful. Their gub'mint is in a heinous financial hole, businesses and people who can flee are moving out, and illegals continue to stream in, further burdening services. In a couple years they'll be begging for a federal bailout...

/and I will say...No
 
2013-12-01 05:02:18 PM  
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2013-12-01 05:03:46 PM  

mark12A: I guarantee California comes out better.

Doubtful. Their gub'mint is in a heinous financial hole, businesses and people who can flee are moving out, and illegals continue to stream in, further burdening services. In a couple years they'll be begging for a federal bailout...

/and I will say...No


I got just the place for you then, coQface:

creativeconflictwisdom.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-12-01 05:05:31 PM  

Elmo Jones: Fart Dope


oh sure just blame obama for everything
 
2013-12-01 05:08:46 PM  

mark12A: I guarantee California comes out better.

Doubtful. Their gub'mint is in a heinous financial hole, businesses and people who can flee are moving out, and illegals continue to stream in, further burdening services. In a couple years they'll be begging for a federal bailout...

/and I will say...No


You sound extremely knowledgeable on the subject.

/that was sarcasm BTW
 
2013-12-01 05:10:54 PM  

ghare: Message to all sane people: you have to vote in EVERY election. Because the crazies do, for sure.


And no matter what, 25% of the country automatically supports and votes for the worst offered. They ALWAYS come out. So right off the bat, the worse has a huge guaranteed head start. A bigger chunk of voters is needed to cancel them out and then get the better candidate to win.

In today's political climate where one of the major parties is filled with self destructive lunatics, sitting out on election is letting the crazies win.
 
2013-12-01 05:11:38 PM  

mark12A: I guarantee California comes out better.

Doubtful. Their gub'mint is in a heinous financial hole, businesses and people who can flee are moving out, and illegals continue to stream in, further burdening services. In a couple years they'll be begging for a federal bailout...

/and I will say...No


9.5/10

// I have a soft spot in my heart for mixing comedy and trolling.
 
2013-12-01 05:11:38 PM  
Like the opinion of those crowds really matter.  Look at them, not a single old rich white person among them.
 
2013-12-01 05:11:47 PM  
Was there anyone under the age of 40 in any of those protest pics?

As I've been told on Fark, the world will be better when the "hoverround brigade" dies off.
 
2013-12-01 05:11:56 PM  
fta It didn't help the law's cause when a local Republican official was forced last month to resign after saying of the measure, in an interview on The Daily Show: "If it hurts a bunch of lazy blacks that want the government to give them everything, so be it."

One bad apple!
 
2013-12-01 05:12:44 PM  

mark12A: I guarantee California comes out better.

Doubtful. Their gub'mint is in a heinous financial hole, businesses and people who can flee are moving out, and illegals continue to stream in, further burdening services. In a couple years they'll be begging for a federal bailout...

/and I will say...No


That's ok, I'm sure we'll miss out on your shining contribution.  Have fun in Texas, it works out for a lot of people with your mindset.
 
2013-12-01 05:13:49 PM  

ghare: Message to all sane people: you have to vote in EVERY election. Because the crazies do, for sure.


Exactly. Look at how Democrats have been doing so well these past few years. Thanks a lot, lunatics!
 
2013-12-01 05:18:21 PM  
That's ok, I'm sure we'll miss out on your shining contribution.  Have fun in Texas, it works out for a lot of people with your mindset.

It's even worse than that. I'm moving to New Hampshire, to join my fellow Free Staters. Gonna be awesome.
 
2013-12-01 05:19:16 PM  

Mrbogey: ghare: Message to all sane people: you have to vote in EVERY election. Because the crazies do, for sure.

Exactly. Look at how Democrats have been doing so well these past few years. Thanks a lot, lunatics!

NO U!

That would have saved quite a few keystrokes.
 
2013-12-01 05:21:28 PM  

mark12A: That's ok, I'm sure we'll miss out on your shining contribution.  Have fun in Texas, it works out for a lot of people with your mindset.

It's even worse than that. I'm moving to New Hampshire, to join my fellow Free Staters. Gonna be awesome.


You're a wonderful troll.  Don't ever change.
 
2013-12-01 05:28:54 PM  
I'm living in NC for exactly one more month.  Between this bullshiat and the royal farkfest that is my university's priorities, I've found a new postdoc in a place that isn't going to drive me to drink
 
2013-12-01 05:30:21 PM  

mark12A: That's ok, I'm sure we'll miss out on your shining contribution.  Have fun in Texas, it works out for a lot of people with your mindset.

It's even worse than that. I'm moving to New Hampshire, to join my fellow Free Staters. Gonna be awesome.


Too much snow, and not enough burritos.  Enjoy the state run package stores when you want to buy rum.

But on the plus side, local politics is like public access cable up there.  Wooly and wild, with low production values.
 
2013-12-01 05:31:23 PM  
California has about 20 billion dollars in projected surplus coming in the next 5 years. This state is making a comeback, largely thanks to Governor Uber Alles. I feel bad for North Carolina but that's what happens with a strong Republican trifecta with a high proportion of derp. That hasn't happened since the 50's in California.
 
2013-12-01 05:31:57 PM  
You're a wonderful troll.  Don't ever change.

It ain't trolling if it's true.

I was talking to my contractor. In the little town I'm moving to, they don't have building inspectors. Can't afford one. They don't even have a building code. They default to the state building code. And nobody from the state checks this stuff.

So, if you want to build something, like a garage, all you need for a building permit is to show that the garage will be built far enough away from the property line. That's it. Contrast that to New Jersey, where you have to submit plans, wait for the overlords to decide if they'll let you have a garage, then you have wait on building inspectors, showing up when they damm well please, to check if the foundation holes are deep enough before you pour, and check again for other crap, again, when they feel like it, and so forth.

Freedom. It's awesome.

Hell, I might even run for office up there. The state assembly only meets a few weeks a year, and paid $500 for it. My kind of government.
 
2013-12-01 05:32:55 PM  

mark12A: I guarantee California comes out better.

Doubtful. Their gub'mint is in a heinous financial hole, businesses and people who can flee are moving out, and illegals continue to stream in, further burdening services. In a couple years they'll be begging for a federal bailout...

/and I will say...No


Because the problem is them there illegals.
 
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