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(UPI)   Investigators say speed "may" have been a factor in that crash that killed actor Paul Walker. Gee, ya think? Wow, nice to see all that fancy forensic training is paying off for the LAPD   (upi.com) divider line 70
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2013-12-01 11:07:03 AM
Personally, I blame gremlins.
 
2013-12-01 11:08:00 AM
Like, velocity or the drug?
 
2013-12-01 11:14:16 AM
Next they'll say it might have involved road rage or anger issues...
 
2013-12-01 11:19:22 AM
The scene couldn't have been complete without the SWAT team and some tactical armor.
 
2013-12-01 11:20:38 AM
I don't think it was speed so much as the sudden deceleration at the end.


And all the fire
 
2013-12-01 11:22:54 AM
I still believe they were driving a Tesla at the posted speed limit.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-12-01 11:23:14 AM
The cause of the crash has not yet been determined, but investigators say they're looking into the possibility that speed was a factor, the newspaper said.

Around here reporters and police feel obliged to mention speed and seatbelt use.

"A speeding car crashed into an alien spacecraft last night. It was not immediately known if occupants were wearing seat belts."
 
2013-12-01 11:53:59 AM
Maybe the tree was an Ent and jumped in front of the car because he was just sick of those movies.
 
2013-12-01 11:58:26 AM
I blame Jason Statham's character from the next movie
 
2013-12-01 12:41:08 PM
They weren't sure at first... but then they enhanced a photo taken by the Mars rover at the exact time of the accident. Well, that was all the proof they needed.
 
2013-12-01 12:42:45 PM
It's true: had they been driving a Town and Country at 5 mph below the speed limit, they would both still be here today to talk about it.
 
2013-12-01 01:04:53 PM
 
2013-12-01 01:22:54 PM

One Bad Apple: I don't think it was speed so much as the sudden deceleration at the end.

And all the fire


ALAS, that is pretty much what will kill you in an accident. That and not wearing a belt and become a missile shot from the car.
 
2013-12-01 01:36:17 PM

TheHighlandHowler: "make a mistake - it bites your head off"


Did he say magnesium transmission tunnel?    Flame on!
 
2013-12-01 02:02:46 PM
It's LAPD... At least they didn't shoot anybody
 
2013-12-01 02:06:37 PM

Peter von Nostrand: It's LAPD... At least they didn't shoot anybody


And it happened in the county so that's what I get for not reading the article first
 
2013-12-01 02:20:36 PM
The LAPD had nothing to do with this, Subby.

The accident happened in Santa Clarita, which isn't part of L.A. Santa Clarita has its own police department.

/never heard of Paul Walker until he was killed
 
2013-12-01 02:35:01 PM
Guess that was his final shot for Fast and Furious 7?
 
2013-12-01 02:40:41 PM
LA County != LAPD.
 
2013-12-01 02:41:46 PM
i290.photobucket.com
 
2013-12-01 02:46:05 PM
And Vin Diesel will now only drive fixies and Hoverounds.
 
2013-12-01 02:46:19 PM
I still say speed + someone turned off the traction control.

As for the ensuing fireball, no clue other than super cars are known to immolate themselves on a semi-regular basis, which is usually due to a design flaw or something.  However, this is a Porsche and they usually don't have the same passion for going up in flames like Italian cars.
 
2013-12-01 02:52:55 PM
Clearly we need mental background checks to prevent speed demons from getting licenses.
 
2013-12-01 02:53:53 PM
It was the L.A. County Sheriff Dept.
 
2013-12-01 02:57:07 PM
Lorelle never heard of Paul Walker until he was killed

how many years since you've owned a TV? T.I.L.  you could review the Sheriff's substation on Google:   https://plus.google.com/109395657519954726313

http://hometownstation.com/santa-clarita-news/update-paul-walker-san ta -clarita-ceo-reportedly-killed-car-crash-39250

FWIW this spot's about 2 miles Northeast of where the CHP's "Newhall Massacre" occurred which is also for you Porsche Hollywood Irony Fans the site of James Dean's last meal  http://www.scvhistory.com/scvhistory/pollack1108jamesdean.htm
 
2013-12-01 03:00:43 PM

mikalmd: It was the L.A. County Sheriff Dept.


Whether it's Lee Baca or Charlie Beck, you can be always be assured either department will turn anything into a clusterfark.  Both are equally douche-tastic
 
2013-12-01 03:04:19 PM

Glitchwerks: I still say speed + someone turned off the traction control.

As for the ensuing fireball, no clue other than super cars are known to immolate themselves on a semi-regular basis, which is usually due to a design flaw or something.  However, this is a Porsche and they usually don't have the same passion for going up in flames like Italian cars.


Isn't the Carrera GT on such a knife edge anyway? The stories I've heard regarding that car are such that it really seems like one of those "good idea on paper" kind of deals.
 
2013-12-01 03:04:49 PM
Well, you see, what happened was he was going 15 miles an hour and hit an unexpected speed bump, accidentally bit clean through his tongue, and bled out.
 
2013-12-01 03:05:44 PM
Ultimately it was either mechanical failure or poor judgment that caused the accident.

Speed a factor? Sure... it reduces the margin of error and increases the severity of the damage. Speed by itself isn't the cause, however. With the proper hardware, proper precautions, skill and course, people manage to drive 200+mph without colliding with immovable objects.

Like they say... it isn't the fall that kills you... it's the abrupt stop at the end.
 
2013-12-01 03:10:28 PM
Was fury also a factor?
 
2013-12-01 03:13:45 PM

LesserEvil: With the proper hardware, proper precautions, skill and course, people manage to drive 200+mph without colliding with immovable objects.


Some super cars have notorious traits for bad handling.  The Ferrari Enzo is known for dangerous snap oversteer and the 360 Modena is known for terrible understeer.

No idea about the Carrera GT though.

Rowan Atkinson did a review of the car comparing it the McLaren F1.  It's in an issue of Evo somewhere in storage.
 
2013-12-01 03:24:39 PM
I can imagine that the last words spoken were something like "watch what I can make this car do"...

People keep saying he was "unconscious" in the vehicle and they tried to pull him out.  There is no way he was "unconscious".  Even if they had pulled him out, he was dead on impact.
 
2013-12-01 03:27:00 PM

zabadu: I can imagine that the last words spoken were something like "watch what I can make this car do"...

People keep saying he was "unconscious" in the vehicle and they tried to pull him out.  There is no way he was "unconscious".  Even if they had pulled him out, he was dead on impact.


I'm pretty sure he looked like a version of this

www.hobbymasters.com

A new type of puzzle.
 
2013-12-01 03:28:11 PM

One Bad Apple: I don't think it was speed so much as the sudden deceleration at the end.


You jerk.
 
2013-12-01 03:28:34 PM

Glitchwerks: I still say speed + someone turned off the traction control.

As for the ensuing fireball, no clue other than super cars are known to immolate themselves on a semi-regular basis, which is usually due to a design flaw or something.  However, this is a Porsche and they usually don't have the same passion for going up in flames like Italian cars.


I think the car hit the pole on the passenger side and kind of wrapped around it.  Entirely possible that a fuel line was cut.
 
2013-12-01 03:34:54 PM

Glitchwerks: LesserEvil: With the proper hardware, proper precautions, skill and course, people manage to drive 200+mph without colliding with immovable objects.

Some super cars have notorious traits for bad handling.  The Ferrari Enzo is known for dangerous snap oversteer and the 360 Modena is known for terrible understeer.

No idea about the Carrera GT though.

Rowan Atkinson did a review of the car comparing it the McLaren F1.  It's in an issue of Evo somewhere in storage.


So you had nothing to add about this situation but thought you'd chime in with your know-nothingness anyway?

I get it.
 
2013-12-01 03:37:31 PM
zabadu People keep saying he was "unconscious" in the vehicle and they tried to pull him out.  There is no way he was "unconscious".  Even if they had pulled him out, he was dead on impact.

well-yikes, @ least, given the end results, you'd wish for that...the thing that's funny is the original "Fast & The Furious" was inspired by after-hours racing out around Rockefeller Ave in Ontario, Calif...& the warehouses & industrial parks in Newhall/Valencia/Santa Clarita/Saugus(impossible to tell where one 'city' end & the other begins) mimic that area, but are just within the TMZ, or 'Thirty Mile Zone' off La Cienega & Beverly for union filming rules...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NV3DrI_VJw
 
2013-12-01 03:45:44 PM

FlyingJ: how many years since you've owned a TV? T.I.L.  you could review the Sheriff's substation on Google:   https://plus.google.com/109395657519954726313

http://hometownstation.com/santa-clarita-news/update-paul-walker-san ta -clarita-ceo-reportedly-killed-car-crash-39250

FWIW this spot's about 2 miles Northeast of where the CHP's "Newhall Massacre" occurred which is also for you Porsche Hollywood Irony Fans the site of James Dean's last meal  http://www.scvhistory.com/scvhistory/pollack1108jamesdean.htm


Oh, I have a TV...I just don't watch it very much.

I live about 20 miles from Santa Clarita, so I'm very familiar with the area, thanks.
 
2013-12-01 03:47:12 PM
static.guim.co.uk

Either little trees in California are made of something with the density of Dwarf Star Matter, or super-expensive cars are made of Kleenex and nitroglycerine.
 
2013-12-01 03:51:11 PM

TV's Vinnie: super-expensive cars are made of Kleenex and nitroglycerine.


Pretty much.
 
2013-12-01 03:53:17 PM

TV's Vinnie: [static.guim.co.uk image 460x276]

Either little trees in California are made of something with the density of Dwarf Star Matter, or super-expensive cars are made of Kleenex and nitroglycerine.


It's the North American Ironwood, commonly seen in video games and used as building material for telephone poles.
 
2013-12-01 03:56:11 PM
Psh, that was a weak Fark headline. The real one should read: Someone should have told the guy driving Paul Walkers porche that you NEVER go full Dan Wheldon. Swing and a miss Drew.
 
2013-12-01 03:58:50 PM

jmr61: So you had nothing to add about this situation but thought you'd chime in with your know-nothingness anyway?

I get it.


I'm just pointing out that it's not necessarily true that "with the proper hardware, proper precautions, skill and course, people manage to drive 200+mph without colliding with immovable objects."

But, hey, keep on trollin'.
 
2013-12-01 03:59:03 PM

TV's Vinnie: [static.guim.co.uk image 460x276]

Either little trees in California are made of something with the density of Dwarf Star Matter, or super-expensive cars are made of Kleenex and nitroglycerine.


The car ended up at that tree. From some "before" picture of the scene, it looks like the car went through a steel light post to end up there, which would explain why the back end of the car appears to be twisted upside and pointing the wrong direction next to the passenger side of the car.
 
2013-12-01 04:10:55 PM
 
2013-12-01 04:37:32 PM
Lorelle I live about 20 miles from Santa Clarita, so I'm very familiar with the area, thanks.

gotcha, underscoring my point about the Ontario-Newhal/Valencia dichotomy is Walker's crash site was just past the filming location for F.P.S. Corporate Offices in the X-Files Episode "First Person Shooter", which was supposed to be in Ontario, CA...

http://www.avclub.com/review/the-x-filesmillennium-first-person-shoo te rtheef-90013
 
2013-12-01 04:40:38 PM
Never heard of Paul Walker until his death?

That's okay. I've never heard of the Bronx until this morning' train derailment.

/and I don't own a train pass
 
2013-12-01 04:47:55 PM

FlyingJ: gotcha, underscoring my point about the Ontario-Newhal/Valencia dichotomy is Walker's crash site was just past the filming location for F.P.S. Corporate Offices in the X-Files Episode "First Person Shooter", which was supposed to be in Ontario, CA...

Ontario sure is a loooong way from Santa Clarita.


OtherLittleGuy: Never heard of Paul Walker until his death?

That's okay. I've never heard of the Bronx until this morning' train derailment.

/and I don't own a train pass


I confess to not keeping up with pop culture these days...but I did know what Kim Kardashian's ass looked like before I saw her face.
 
2013-12-01 05:29:05 PM

Lorelle: I confess to not keeping up with pop culture these days...but I did know what Kim Kardashian's ass looked like before I saw her face.


Don't feel too bad there. I didn't recognize the name right away either and I have seen most of the movies that he's been in. As a name he really hasn't been that high on the presses radar unless you mention that he's "That guy from Fast and Furious. No, not the bald guy, the other guy". For me anyway he was always more of a face that I recognized than a name. His name is a bit generic in that regard. That doesn't make his death any less tragic but I can see how someone might go "Who?" right at first.
 
2013-12-01 05:35:41 PM

stephenf1208: Psh, that was a weak Fark headline. The real one should read: Someone should have told the guy driving Paul Walkers porche that you NEVER go full Dan Wheldon. Swing and a miss Drew.


That doesn't even make sense- it wasn't Paul Walker's car, it was his friend's... Plus your headline isn't funny. ironic, clever, or even creative... It's just boring... Try again?
 
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