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(Huffington Post)   It may be hard to understand but a city with the 7th highest tax rate in the nation located in a state with the highest tax rate in the nation faces a fiscal crisis. Obviously government spending is not the problem   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 121
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2013-12-01 10:44:39 AM  
Nice try, douchepublicanmitter
 
2013-12-01 10:46:22 AM  
I'm gonna follow that up with this:

"Last week, Bloomberg announced that his team had balanced the city's budget for Fiscal Year 2015, which begins in July, closing a projected $2 billion deficit."
 
2013-12-01 10:54:10 AM  
"Labor leaders are asking for current and retroactive raises"

LOL this will be awesome. The incoming union hero literally can't say yes.
 
2013-12-01 11:01:28 AM  
Some cities are different than others, particularly when gigantic. Film at 11.
 
2013-12-01 11:08:11 AM  
Just as it took a confirmed commie-hater like Dick Nixon to make peace with China, and Governor "Moonbeam" Brown to convince California's public service unions that massive retroactive and current raises weren't in the cards, Mayor de Blasio just may be the right man for the job.

[Good luck with that, sir...we're all counting on you.jpg]
 
2013-12-01 11:36:32 AM  

flucto: "Labor leaders are asking for current and retroactive raises"

LOL this will be awesome. The incoming union hero literally can't say yes.


the unions have to overreach, that's pretty much how negotiations work.
 
2013-12-01 11:40:06 AM  
What the fark is a retroactive raise?  Is it calculate the raise I would have had, then calculate another one on it to give to me now?  Or is it figure out a raise I should have had, then pay me the difference between when I should have had it and now?
 
2013-12-01 11:40:58 AM  

doublesecretprobation: the unions have to overreach, that's pretty much how negotiations work.


In the end they're going to get very little or comrade mayor will be one and done. Since a politician's goal is to stay in office, they're going to get very little.
 
2013-12-01 11:52:31 AM  

BizarreMan: What the fark is a retroactive raise?  Is it calculate the raise I would have had, then calculate another one on it to give to me now?  Or is it figure out a raise I should have had, then pay me the difference between when I should have had it and now?


the latter.

Yeah, the unions aren't going to get everything they want in negotiations, but that's why you start high and work your way down.
 
2013-12-01 11:52:50 AM  
is subby suggesting we somehow nationalize the city?
 
2013-12-01 11:55:02 AM  
Huh. I actually expected the answer to be somewhere in California. . .
 
2013-12-01 11:55:49 AM  

pueblonative: but that's why you start high and work your way down.


Which is how all negotiations work so in the end both sides can save face and claim victory.
 
2013-12-01 11:58:36 AM  
Here's a part that had me scratching my head:

members of the municipal labor force have been working on expired contracts for years, declining to negotiate with outgoing Mayor Michael Bloomberg in hopes of striking a more favorable deal with de Blasio.

How long ago did the newbie start running?
 
2013-12-01 11:59:27 AM  
Always a farking CRISIS.
No, just NO.
 
2013-12-01 12:03:24 PM  
"state with the highest tax rate in the nation"

California, you dolt!
 
2013-12-01 12:05:06 PM  
That headline was just completely full of failure.
 
2013-12-01 12:05:22 PM  

GlenninSac: Here's a part that had me scratching my head:

members of the municipal labor force have been working on expired contracts for years, declining to negotiate with outgoing Mayor Michael Bloomberg in hopes of striking a more favorable deal with de Blasio.

How long ago did the newbie start running?


You're not supposed to notice the details.
 
2013-12-01 12:05:27 PM  

pueblonative: BizarreMan: What the fark is a retroactive raise?  Is it calculate the raise I would have had, then calculate another one on it to give to me now?  Or is it figure out a raise I should have had, then pay me the difference between when I should have had it and now?

the latter.

Yeah, the unions aren't going to get everything they want in negotiations, but that's why you start high and work your way down.


And they sometimes get retroactive raises in cases where the negotiations should have finished prior to contracts being up.
 
2013-12-01 12:06:53 PM  

LasersHurt: Some cities are different than others, particularly when gigantic. Film at 11.


Cost of living varies from city to city, as much as the cost of doing business would.  City with the 7th highest tax rate may not be run as efficiently as it could be, but probably not the cheapest place in the world to get things done either.
 
2013-12-01 12:07:28 PM  
Unions and politicians who have given them more than they ever deserved over the years.

Simple as that.
 
2013-12-01 12:09:03 PM  
"Asinine" tag for submitter.
 
2013-12-01 12:09:46 PM  

jmr61: Unions and politicians who have given them more than they ever deserved over the years.

Simple as that.


What is simple as that?
 
2013-12-01 12:09:47 PM  

doublesecretprobation: flucto: "Labor leaders are asking for current and retroactive raises"

LOL this will be awesome. The incoming union hero literally can't say yes.

the unions have to overreach, that's pretty much how negotiations work.


Exactly, you never start a negotiation at the point you  want.  You start above that.  For all you teahadists out there, the prime example you'd be aware of is Pawn Stars.
 
2013-12-01 12:09:53 PM  

flucto: doublesecretprobation: the unions have to overreach, that's pretty much how negotiations work.

In the end they're going to get very little or comrade mayor will be one and done. Since a politician's goal is to stay in office, they're going to get very little.


Jesus farking Christ? Seriously?

Grow the fark up, you pussie.
 
2013-12-01 12:11:52 PM  

mediablitz: Grow the fark up, you pussie.


You seem to need a dictionary.
 
2013-12-01 12:16:27 PM  
Not that what Subby indicated holds water, but if it did, perhaps no longer spending enough to militarize a bloated police force might be a step in the right direction....
 
2013-12-01 12:18:46 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: jmr61: Unions and politicians who have given them more than they ever deserved over the years.

Simple as that.

What is simple as that?


Everything.  Everything in economics is simple.  Small government is always better, low regulation is always better, you name it.

Show me a complex problem and I'll show you a farker with a solution that is the intellectual equivalent of slapping electronics when they don't work.
 
2013-12-01 12:21:38 PM  
It's remarkable how expensive it is to keep up the moon hoax conspiracy, 45 years after they tore down NYC to make way for the soundstage.
 
2013-12-01 12:25:02 PM  

bronyaur1: Not that what Subby indicated holds water, but if it did, perhaps no longer spending enough to militarize a bloated police force might be a step in the right direction....


As much as I'd love to see de Blasio do that, I don't think the powers that be will allow it.
 
2013-12-01 12:26:36 PM  

BizarreMan: What the fark is a retroactive raise?  Is it calculate the raise I would have had, then calculate another one on it to give to me now?  Or is it figure out a raise I should have had, then pay me the difference between when I should have had it and now?


A retroactive raise is a gift of public funds under an assumed identity.
 
2013-12-01 12:29:37 PM  

mediablitz: flucto: doublesecretprobation: the unions have to overreach, that's pretty much how negotiations work.

In the end they're going to get very little or comrade mayor will be one and done. Since a politician's goal is to stay in office, they're going to get very little.

Jesus farking Christ? Seriously?

Grow the fark up, you pussie.


flucto: mediablitz: Grow the fark up, you pussie.

You seem to need a dictionary.


*hands mediablitz a dictionary*

You're still a pussie.
 
2013-12-01 12:30:45 PM  

GlenninSac: Here's a part that had me scratching my head:

members of the municipal labor force have been working on expired contracts for years, declining to negotiate with outgoing Mayor Michael Bloomberg in hopes of striking a more favorable deal with de Blasio.

How long ago did the newbie start running?




They don't expire, the just become amendable.
 
2013-12-01 12:30:46 PM  
It may be hard to understand but a city with the 7th highest tax rate in the nation located in a state with the highest tax rate in the nation faces a fiscal crisis. Obviously government spending is not the problem

I'm guessing subby got the 7th highest score in a class full of special ed kids.  We're proud of you subby, nice work.
 
2013-12-01 12:31:23 PM  

Jesus Farking Christ: You're still a pussie.


Oh how will I live through this brutal insult. Oh oh.
 
2013-12-01 12:32:34 PM  

omnibus_necanda_sunt: I'm gonna follow that up with this:

"Last week, Bloomberg announced that his team had balanced the city's budget for Fiscal Year 2015, which begins in July, closing a projected $2 billion deficit."


Thread over.
 
2013-12-01 12:34:53 PM  
Waaaa, why are they spending money on things I don't like?! -Rand Paul
 
2013-12-01 12:36:34 PM  

flucto: Jesus Farking Christ: You're still a pussie.

Oh how will I live through this brutal insult. Oh oh.


Oh how will we ever live through several years of a mayor that  flucto does not approve! Oh oh.
 
2013-12-01 12:37:31 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Oh how will we ever live through several years of a mayor that flucto does not approve! Oh oh.


who says I don't approve? I've said for a while I think he's an interesting experiment.
 
2013-12-01 12:39:33 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: flucto: Jesus Farking Christ: You're still a pussie.

Oh how will I live through this brutal insult. Oh oh.

Oh how will we ever live through several years of a mayor that  flucto does not approve! Oh oh.



We could give him retroactive greenlights--

Hey, I'm just bargaining here!

Don't look at me like that.
 
2013-12-01 12:40:00 PM  
 
2013-12-01 12:42:28 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: bronyaur1: Not that what Subby indicated holds water, but if it did, perhaps no longer spending enough to militarize a bloated police force might be a step in the right direction....

As much as I'd love to see de Blasio do that, I don't think the powers that be will allow it.


Probably because a city facing a financial problem doesn't need a crime wave.

Luckily we can look back at history and see how previous policies affected the city. Getting a lot of police on the street and making the NYPD very aggressive is a large part of the reason why crime dropped. The main group of people I'm seeing who love cutting the police seem to be the ones who loved the "gritty" New York of the 1970s and early 80s. In other words, it's people who should be ignored.
 
2013-12-01 12:43:57 PM  

Mrbogey: In other words, it's people who should be ignored.


Look out. That kind of comment will have the local sophisticates calling you bad names. There's just no bouncing back from that kind of dressing down.
 
2013-12-01 12:44:37 PM  

Mrbogey: Probably because a city facing a financial problem doesn't need a crime wave.

Luckily we can look back at history and see how previous policies affected the city. Getting a lot of police on the street and making the NYPD very aggressive is a large part of the reason why crime dropped


Aren't you one of those guys that's always railing about freedom? Do you really think that de-militarizing the police, stopping blanket surveillance of Muslims and halting stop-and-frisk will make the city less safe?
 
2013-12-01 12:45:17 PM  

flucto: cameroncrazy1984: Oh how will we ever live through several years of a mayor that flucto does not approve! Oh oh.

who says I don't approve? I've said for a while I think he's an interesting experiment.


Yeah, "comrade" is generally a term of endearment.
 
2013-12-01 12:47:18 PM  

flucto: Mrbogey: In other words, it's people who should be ignored.

Look out. That kind of comment will have the local sophisticates calling you bad names. There's just no bouncing back from that kind of dressing down.


Tards of a feather I see.
 
2013-12-01 12:47:40 PM  

flucto: cameroncrazy1984: Oh how will we ever live through several years of a mayor that flucto does not approve! Oh oh.

who says I don't approve? I've said for a while I think he's an interesting experiment.


That's the "Just asking questions" of political stances.
 
2013-12-01 12:47:55 PM  

Mrbogey: Getting a lot of police on the street and making the NYPD very aggressive is a large part of the reason why crime dropped.


The crime drop in NYC (just like everywhere else) coincides with a national trend of decreasing crime.  NYC has also gotten much more expensive to live in.  The poor can no longer afford to live there.
 
2013-12-01 12:49:26 PM  

mediablitz: Jesus farking Christ? Seriously?

Grow the fark up, you pussie.


He supported the Sandinistas. He been a supporter of radical socialism for a long time.

On his return, he joined the Nicaragua Solidarity Movement of Greater New York, which had a goal to 'end capitalism, replace with democratic socialism.' [link]

You can't deny these things happened and give insight into his mindset.
 
2013-12-01 12:51:11 PM  

machodonkeywrestler: That's the "Just asking questions" of political stances.


naw. I'm highly dubious of the guy because of his lefty-extremism a few decades ago. But it's going to be very useful to see what he does for the city. Hey I wasn't all that happy about Bloomberg coming in but took the same stance then. I just don't have the kind of brand loyalty that most people here seem to worship.
 
2013-12-01 12:54:56 PM  

RevRaven: mediablitz: Jesus farking Christ? Seriously?

Grow the fark up, you pussie.

He supported the Sandinistas. He been a supporter of radical socialism for a long time.

On his return, he joined the Nicaragua Solidarity Movement of Greater New York, which had a goal to 'end capitalism, replace with democratic socialism.' [link]

You can't deny these things happened and give insight into his mindset.



The Sandinistas also supported a militarized police force when they took power.
 
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