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(Geek.com)   Fancy 90 Gigaflops in a package the size of a credit card that runs Linux for $99?   (geek.com) divider line 19
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2013-12-01 11:01:13 AM
4 votes:

doglover: What would I do with that much computation?


Celebrate winning the SETI with your basement full of mined Bitcoins!
2013-12-01 11:32:53 AM
3 votes:
I'd run Crysis on medium settings.
2013-12-01 11:18:19 AM
2 votes:
This thread has everything.

1) Windows weenies bashing linux.
2) Some guy claiming his GPU is faster.
3) Some guy who completely misunderstood the purpose of the project (and didn't read the article.)
4) Bitcoin
5) Porn

A researcher where I work has a cluster with a few thousand cores and 2ish petabytes of data. They spend tons of money on powering/cooling the cluster alone. IF (big IF) something like this could take over the processing duties, they could cut costs in power/cooling drastically and then purchase more CPU/disk.
2013-12-01 11:00:03 AM
2 votes:

doglover: What would I do with that much computation?


Run linux.

Cause when you run linux, that's pretty much all you can do.
2013-12-01 10:43:04 AM
2 votes:

doglover: What would I do with that much computation?


I dunno but I want one anyways
2013-12-01 07:18:33 AM
2 votes:
in 1981 you could buy a 80 MFLOP Cray I for about $5 million and it had up to 8 megabytes of memory.  This thing could be 1000 times faster.
2013-12-01 08:17:51 PM
1 votes:

gozar_the_destroyer: omeganuepsilon: The_Time_Master: Or run your computer to play a vastly lower number of outdated games or struggle with wine to kind of gimp along with a modern game.

FTFY

No window's fan myself, but gaming is never an apt argument for linux.  You argue like a dirty conservative politician that is denying he was caught doing coke and farking the bellboy on the government's dime.

It always strikes me as funny(in a very sad way), because it's a null argument from a technological standpoint anyways, it's all business deal what games get to which platform, not superior code or what have you.

So, what are your thoughts on SteamOS then?


Not speaking for Omegan.

Licensing
2013-12-01 07:53:20 PM
1 votes:

Great_Milenko: doglover: What would I do with that much computation?

Run linux.

Cause when you run linux, that's pretty much all you can do.


Well.. unless you're willing to get your hands dirty. Some of actually like digging through a system to configure it properly; I'll typically lose interest in a fully-functional system and start trying out different OS's just to play with them.

So obviously, Linux is a great system for myself and many others, but not for everyone.. just like not everyone who uses cars knows anything about what's under the hood, other than "Oil go here" and "Gas go here". :)
2013-12-01 06:59:02 PM
1 votes:

Great_Milenko: doglover: What would I do with that much computation?

Run linux.

Cause when you run linux, that's pretty much all you can do.


Or run your computer to play games, read email and surf the web.
Or run your phone.
Or run your car.
Or run your router.
Or run your thermostat.
Or run manufacturing machinery.
...
2013-12-01 12:46:29 PM
1 votes:

rocky_howard: Heh, wasn't that suppposed to be out by now?


It is out. It's been out since March. It's also been a complete flop, because, seriously? What were they thinking?
2013-12-01 12:18:25 PM
1 votes:

fluffy2097: Very few programs in fact lend themselves to massively parallel processing.


That's not really true. Lots of problems can be solved in parallel. The problem is that parallel programming is  hard. There's a lot more emphasis on building parallel code these days, and it's getting a lot easier. Enterprise languages, like .NET, are adopting some really clever approaches to simplifying (async/await, parallel.for, etc). Functional languages, like Haskell, already parallelize naturally. Erlang  forces you to write parallel code.

fluffy2097: Epiphany is an entirely seperate chip that doesn't even have direct access to RAM.


That's because Epiphany has its own memory. Not a lot, but that's how it's designed. Remember, their primary business case is to have a massively parallel chip suitable for embedded applications- like facial recognition for cellphones.

That said, yes- these Parallela boards are being massively oversold for what they are. At the $100 price point, these controllers definitely have applications, but it's not going to be the sort of thing you're putting on your desktop.
2013-12-01 11:55:57 AM
1 votes:

fluffy2097: Lemme give you a hint. Heat output and power use are proportional to how much work gets done.


If every architecture were identical, maybe.
2013-12-01 11:28:41 AM
1 votes:
Apparently the $99 doesn't get you the 90 gigaflop version...
2013-12-01 11:09:38 AM
1 votes:

fluffy2097: How many consumer applications support 64 cores? What use does a consumer have for massively parallel computing?


"This product which is clearly not a consumer product is pointless because it is not a consumer product."

At $100 a pop, it has lots of applications in scientific computing. It'd be a great platform to use for Erlang applications.
2013-12-01 11:05:33 AM
1 votes:

fluffy2097: Awesome. All that processing power is spread over 64 cores. Which equals out to 700 mhz a core.

How many consumer applications support 64 cores? What use does a consumer have for massively parallel computing?

/crickets
//You linux farks would be far better off getting rid of the X window system.
///This is the year of desktop linux! The year 1984 to 2014!


We're working on it!

/X is a flaming turd.
http://wayland.freedesktop.org/
2013-12-01 11:04:12 AM
1 votes:

fluffy2097: Awesome. All that processing power is spread over 64 cores. Which equals out to 700 mhz a core.

How many consumer applications support 64 cores? What use does a consumer have for massively parallel computing?

/crickets
//You linux farks would be far better off getting rid of the X window system.
///This is the year of desktop linux! The year 1984 to 2014!


My GPU has the same processing power and runs multiple cores. Besides 3d rendering, scientific research and bit coin mining, there are few applications for this board. Perhaps it can be used for low price robotics research and development. The reduced size and power consumption compared to other options does offer some serious possibilities.
2013-12-01 10:56:21 AM
1 votes:
genomics. to answer your question.
2013-12-01 10:31:53 AM
1 votes:

doglover: What would I do with that much computation?


since all your shiat won't fit on the smallish SSD's you would still wait on your 7200rpm hard drive to deliver data just like you do now
2013-12-01 07:11:47 AM
1 votes:

doglover: What would I do with that much computation?


Compute faster.
 
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