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(Courthouse News Service)   17 year old steps in to break up a fight at his school. Cops arrive, promptly taser him, leaving him in a coma. Hey Drew, when do we get a Texas tag?   (courthousenews.com) divider line 147
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2013-12-01 09:19:14 AM
What did police do before they could just taser everyone?
 
2013-12-01 09:19:23 AM
He'll get over it.
 
2013-12-01 09:20:09 AM
Texas tag? Don't mess with them.
 
2013-12-01 09:22:17 AM

dajoro: What did police do before they could just taser everyone?


Beat them with nightsticks, maglites, and batons.

And maybe some pepper spray for good measure.

/Or possibly just shooting them
 
2013-12-01 09:22:41 AM

dajoro: What did police do before they could just taser everyone?


Shoot first, axe questions later.
 
2013-12-01 09:23:06 AM

dajoro: What did police do before they could just taser everyone?


Probably cried like a bunch of sissies repeatedly at being unable to prove just how macho they are.
 
2013-12-01 09:25:31 AM

glmorrs1: dajoro: What did police do before they could just taser everyone?

Beat them with nightsticks, maglites, and batons.

And maybe some pepper spray for good measure.

/Or possibly just shooting them


'Tactical' flashlights aren't weapons that can be used to cause injury to someone. TOP men told me so.
 
2013-12-01 09:25:46 AM

dajoro: What did police do before they could just taser everyone?


For better or worse, you can pretty much blame tasers on Rodney King.
 
2013-12-01 09:29:20 AM
D'acosta - Spanish name. Officer probably fumbled trying to get it out of the holster in his eagerness to get a "Mexican"
 
2013-12-01 09:30:46 AM
Many cops believe Tasers are harmless. Many cops aren't real bright.
 
2013-12-01 09:31:03 AM
One side of the story.  No statements from either the police or other witnesses.  Reserving judgement.
 
2013-12-01 09:31:55 AM

dajoro: What did police do before they could just taser everyone?


i.imgur.com

i.imgur.com

Tasers provide them a socially acceptable tool to use against people of all colors.
 
2013-12-01 09:32:23 AM

CivicMindedFive: dajoro: What did police do before they could just taser everyone?

For better or worse, you can pretty much blame tasers on Rodney King.


Yeah and not the cops who beat him mercilessly, amirite?
 
2013-12-01 09:34:56 AM
It's Tex-ass, people.

// Spanish for shiathole.
 
2013-12-01 09:36:20 AM

dajoro: What did police do before they could just taser everyone?


This is an isolate incident by an over zealous officer of the law.
 
2013-12-01 09:38:33 AM
Why don't people have respect for the law anymore? He's a cop, he was obviously in the right. He has a badge.
 
2013-12-01 09:39:50 AM
Acosta's son suffered "a severe brain hemorrhage" when McMillan Tasered him after the boy had successfully intervened to stop two girls fighting

Cop taught the little asshole a lesson. You never break up a catfight, if anything you throw some oil on both of them and let things take there course from there.

But seriously, this is why you never step in to break up any fight. All you do is call the police and wait for them to come break it up. If not you can end up being arrested as a participant in the fight or even worse, like this kid found out. Cops have an "arrest them all and let the judge sort it out attitude", and that can really fark up your life for a while.
 
2013-12-01 09:41:21 AM
Filthy pigs are probably drinking away  their depression for not killing the kid. Just take it one day at time, Earl, one day at a time.
 
2013-12-01 09:43:18 AM

wow it took fark this long to green a link on this??



Posted: 11:15 a.m. Friday, Nov. 22, 2013
 
2013-12-01 09:44:28 AM

Muta: dajoro: What did police do before they could just taser everyone?

This is an isolate incident by an over zealous officer of the law.


what is the "official" number on how many isolated incidents before it becomes a commonplace patern? I am sure someone has come up with a number by now.
 
2013-12-01 09:44:52 AM
Every statement about what happened in that article is qualified by 'the mother claims', so obviously this is one side of the story.  About the only things that are not in dispute (i.e. not relying on presumed intent and would have necessarily been witnessed by the officer) are that the boy was tased, hit his head and lay unconscious, was attended to by EMS and was airlifted to a hospital to undergo surgery, and is now in a medically induced coma.

Either the cop was overzealous and tased the kid despite not being an obvious threat, or the mother's account (not first hand, obviously) is incomplete and the officer had a legitimate reason to feel that he or others were threatened.

If (and that's a big if as I'm among the first to assume police misconduct) the cop felt justified I imagine this was an all too common case of someone trying to shout an explanation of how they weren't doing anything wrong to a person pointing a weapon at them instead of shutting up and doing what they were told.  You're better off being arrested and not charged after police questioning than being assaulted, arrested and charged with resisting before police questioning.  It's perfectly reasonable to be afraid of the police, and even though it's difficult you should try to stay smart while you're scared.
 
2013-12-01 09:44:57 AM

LeoffDaGrate: One side of the story.  No statements from either the police or other witnesses.  Reserving judgement.

~

Yeah, this jumped out at me straight away: "a Texas sheriff's deputy Tasered him without cause in a school hallway, the boy's mother claims in court."
 
2013-12-01 09:45:11 AM
Let me be the first to ask the question that's on everyone's mind: was the kid from a rich family? Because if so this was totally unacceptable.
 
2013-12-01 09:45:13 AM
Why would there need to be a Texas tag for this? It happens everywhere.
 
2013-12-01 09:45:26 AM
control-h.org

Farkin'-A, man.
 
2013-12-01 09:45:30 AM
Wow, stories involving cops are so depressing! Thanks, Officer Buzzkill!
 
2013-12-01 09:46:32 AM

IntertubeUser: It's Tex-ass, people.

// Spanish for shiathole.


Considering there are just as many mexicans up there talk to kettle.
 
2013-12-01 09:46:46 AM
Inducing a seizure like state in the body using electricity. Sounds real safe. How about we run a study not paid for by the manufacturers?

/Should only be an option right before
 
2013-12-01 09:49:15 AM

illegal.tender: Let me be the first to ask the question that's on everyone's mind: was the kid from a rich family? Because if so this was totally unacceptable.


His mother was Hispanic, so everything is fine.
 
2013-12-01 09:49:51 AM

gozar_the_destroyer: Inducing a seizure like state in the body using electricity. Sounds real safe. How about we run a study not paid for by the manufacturers?

/Should only be an option right before


You ever notice when the police demonstrate how safe tasers are by tasering one of their own, they always have two people there to catch the cop they are demonstrating on?
 
2013-12-01 09:53:51 AM
Serious question:  What is the value of school resource officers?  Fights like this happened when I was in school 30 years ago, and it was handled by the school.  The principal/teachers broke it up, suspensions were handed out, and we all went back to class.

With the introduction of law enforcement in the schools, these incidents started resulting in arrests and records, and the occasional serious injury like the one mentioned in the article.  I don't see how that is a better thing.
 
2013-12-01 09:56:38 AM
Tasers are a "less lethal" alternative to fire-arms, for when the officer doesn't want to escalate the situation that much.

Less lethal does not mean safe, it just means the victims have a measurably higher survival rate.

Whatever happened to the good old days of police officers de-escalating situations?

/Oh, that's right
//The War on Some Drugs
///Almost forgot
 
2013-12-01 09:56:51 AM
We got to get these weapons out of the hands of these people.
 
2013-12-01 09:58:01 AM

ongbok: gozar_the_destroyer: Inducing a seizure like state in the body using electricity. Sounds real safe. How about we run a study not paid for by the manufacturers?

/Should only be an option right before

You ever notice when the police demonstrate how safe tasers are by tasering one of their own, they always have two people there to catch the cop they are demonstrating on?




i like how he holds it gangsta style
 
2013-12-01 09:59:32 AM
I dont understand why the police corruption and brutality in this country isn't bigger news than Obamacare, the NSA, and Black Friday. Chris Dorner was right. There, I said it. The way they handled his case was a perfect example of why he was right to try to do what he did.
 
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2013-12-01 10:05:24 AM
Does this police force have tasers that automatically record video of the scene?
 
2013-12-01 10:06:38 AM
Honestly, people. A few minutes on Google...

Of course the official police version is a bit different than TFA." He looked ready to fight." Oh, and when if he wakes up from the coma, they're charging him.

Another source.http://austin.ynn.com/content/news/296381/parents-of-bastrop-t een-tase d-by-school-officer-file-federal-suit

This link says there's cell phone video of the event. Although both sides disagree strongly about what exactly is on the videos. I personally hope like hell that at least one student was smart enough to hide their phone from the investigating officers. Also, the charges could not possibly be more of a threat against the parents: "He was resisting. He was interfering with public duties and he also assaulted the police officer," said Jones. "He is 17, so if we move forward with these charges, he could be placed in our jail."

If we move forward with these charges. Which we will of course have to do, if you move forward with your lawsuit.
 
2013-12-01 10:06:51 AM
i.dailymail.co.uk

Hands in the air, backing away as ordered?  That's a taserin', son.
 
2013-12-01 10:08:40 AM

vgss: D'acosta - Spanish name. Officer probably fumbled trying to get it out of the holster in his eagerness to get a "Mexican"


Agree with the sentiment, but D' is usually Italian. De is Spanish or French.
 
2013-12-01 10:10:59 AM

SBinRR: Serious question:  What is the value of school resource officers?  Fights like this happened when I was in school 30 years ago, and it was handled by the school.  The principal/teachers broke it up, suspensions were handed out, and we all went back to class.

With the introduction of law enforcement in the schools, these incidents started resulting in arrests and records, and the occasional serious injury like the one mentioned in the article.  I don't see how that is a better thing.


It's better because it familiarizes students with the idea that an agent of The Law is always on hand, and ready to stomp you down to gristle should you step out of line, citizen.

Remember that in order to maintain the culture of fear used to keep a significant percentage of the population in line, every altercation or incident, no matter how minor, must be treated as a SERIOUS THREAT, and allowing teachers and administrators to do things like exercise judgement and respond accordingly to the students in their charge is both incredibly dangerous, because you never know when a well meaning soft-hearted teacher will let slide some warning sign in a student who then goes on to MURDER ALL THE BABIES, and that's a risk that can't be taken, and also terrifying for the teachers, for what will happen to them if they make that mistake?  And so, in the interests allowing teachers and administrators to abdicate responsibility, and encourage the conditioning of the young towards conformity, schools have moved to Zero Tolerance, where administrators and teachers unthinkingly discipline students according to The Rules regardless of the circumstance, because nobody is special and you must always obey The Law; Anything involving violence must be escalated to The Law because absence of The Law could be seen as tolerance, of which there can be none.
 
2013-12-01 10:15:47 AM
Awesome! Stories like there are the reason I'm short TASR.
 
2013-12-01 10:16:51 AM

Jorn the Younger: Tasers are a "less lethal" alternative to fire-arms, for when the officer doesn't want to escalate the situation that much.

Less lethal does not mean safe, it just means the victims have a measurably higher survival rate.

Whatever happened to the good old days of police officers de-escalating situations?

/Oh, that's right
//The War on Some Drugs
///Almost forgot


Use your words!

Ever watch the RCMP version of cops? Same situations as the US version 90% of the time and they hardly ever used force or arrested anyone. Show was frankly a little boring.

Wonder what their crime rates are like compared to the US...
 
2013-12-01 10:21:59 AM
Is it common for schools to have their own mini police forces? What is the justification?
 
2013-12-01 10:22:30 AM

namegoeshere: Honestly, people. A few minutes on Google...

Of course the official police version is a bit different than TFA." He looked ready to fight." Oh, and when if he wakes up from the coma, they're charging him.

Another source.http://austin.ynn.com/content/news/296381/parents-of-bastrop-t een-tase d-by-school-officer-file-federal-suit

This link says there's cell phone video of the event. Although both sides disagree strongly about what exactly is on the videos. I personally hope like hell that at least one student was smart enough to hide their phone from the investigating officers. Also, the charges could not possibly be more of a threat against the parents: "He was resisting. He was interfering with public duties and he also assaulted the police officer," said Jones. "He is 17, so if we move forward with these charges, he could be placed in our jail."

If we move forward with these charges. Which we will of course have to do, if you move forward with your lawsuit.


FTA (you referenced): "The sheriff's office originally reported that the fight involved three male students and one resource officer."

They can't get their story straight.... but I am sure people polymorphed into female students which is why it was later corrected.

Protip: Cops are human too. They are therefore guilty of the things all other humans are such as lying, making mistakes, etc.

I suspect the truth is in the middle somewhere.
 
2013-12-01 10:22:49 AM

EggSniper: You're better off being arrested and not charged after police questioning repeated

anal probing.
 
2013-12-01 10:22:59 AM

gozar_the_destroyer: Ever watch the RCMP version of cops? Same situations as the US version 90% of the time and they hardly ever used force or arrested anyone. Show was frankly a little boring.


Frequent apologies go a long way towards defusing nasty situations.
 
2013-12-01 10:25:44 AM
I don't understand the whole freakout over a fight in school thing. Used to be a coach would grab the two fighters, drag them to the gym put the gloves and boxing helmets on and let them duke it out until they were tired. Now the swat team swoops in,the school goes on lock down and counselors are called in to make sure no snowflakes were traumatized by what they saw.

Teenagers are by design shiatheads whole will do shiathead things. They'll get past it...if you let them.
 
2013-12-01 10:27:39 AM

dajoro: What did police do before they could just taser everyone?


Run around with long extension cords that had bare wires on the end. The portable version is much handier.

Of course, that was still a lot better than the original invention...
compliance.safetysmart.com
Officer Ben Franklin taking down a violent criminal.
 
2013-12-01 10:28:29 AM

ongbok: Acosta's son suffered "a severe brain hemorrhage" when McMillan Tasered him after the boy had successfully intervened to stop two girls fighting

Cop taught the little asshole a lesson. You never break up a catfight, if anything you throw some oil on both of them and let things take there course from there.

But seriously, this is why you never step in to break up any fight. All you do is call the police and wait for them to come break it up. If not you can end up being arrested as a participant in the fight or even worse, like this kid found out. Cops have an "arrest them all and let the judge sort it out attitude", and that can really fark up your life for a while.


Let them fight it out until someone gets really hurt? I've broken up a couple of fights, most notably one between a deputy sheriff friend of mine and a guy who was just begging for an ass kicking. My deputy buddy thanked me later for saving him from an easy lawsuit and likely criminal charges since he had struck first. Every other pussy in the bar stood back and invited tragedy.
 
2013-12-01 10:28:59 AM

Target Builder: Is it common for schools to have their own mini police forces? What is the justification?


Because they have their own mini criminals?
 
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