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2013-12-01 08:51:12 AM
You've got to love people who move into a community then complain about it.
 
2013-12-01 08:54:15 AM

Bedstead Polisher: You've got to love people who move into a community then complain about it.


About as equally as those who complain about people who move into their communities.
 
2013-12-01 08:55:02 AM
If it wasn't for the church bells, I wouldn't know when to start drinking.
 
2013-12-01 08:56:35 AM
I'm not Catholic, nor a church going kinda guy, but I find church bells to be charming.
Too many people walk around with a stick up their ass.
 
2013-12-01 08:56:54 AM
It's not a matter of who moves in or if they've been there 50 years.  Churches have a responsibility to not ring their bells too loudly or for half an hour at a time (the church a few doors over from me had a problem with their electronic system a few months ago which they were extremely apologetic for; the system stuck a few times and rang the bells until someone pulled the plug on the system completely).  It's not a religious thing, it's a noise ordinance thing just like leaf blowing at 7 AM.
 
MFK
2013-12-01 09:01:37 AM
Ironically, as I type this, it's 9am on Sunday and I can hear no less than three farking churches ringing their bells simultaneously and it is an awful, cacophonous sound.

/Freedom of religion also means freedom FROM religion.
 
2013-12-01 09:02:04 AM

JosephFinn: It's not a matter of who moves in or if they've been there 50 years.  Churches have a responsibility to not ring their bells too loudly or for half an hour at a time (the church a few doors over from me had a problem with their electronic system a few months ago which they were extremely apologetic for; the system stuck a few times and rang the bells until someone pulled the plug on the system completely).  It's not a religious thing, it's a noise ordinance thing just like leaf blowing at 7 AM.




What do you have against Jesus and his leaf blower?
 
2013-12-01 09:03:04 AM
You don't like leaf blowing at 7am? When else do you expect people to perform phallic acts on leafs?
 
2013-12-01 09:04:18 AM
What's next Hindus harmonizing in my hallway?
 
2013-12-01 09:05:40 AM
of course atheists hate church bells

the sound reminds them that they're marginalised failures who lack a sense community
 
2013-12-01 09:08:51 AM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: What do you have against Jesus and his leaf blower?


I know he's got a family to support, but he can run his landscaping business during the week, when I'm less likely to have a crushing hangover.
 
2013-12-01 09:08:58 AM

EvilEgg: What's next Hindus harmonizing in my hallway?


It's like I always say - there's nothing an agnostic can't do if he really doesn't know whether he believes in anything or not.
 
2013-12-01 09:09:39 AM

EvilEgg: What's next Hindus harmonizing in my hallway?


Shintoists shattering sheet glass in the shiathouse and shouting slogans?
 
2013-12-01 09:10:13 AM
"That community may face greater barriers to acceptance in the area. This year, Gutierrez said, when the club plastered recruiting posters around campus, they were taken down within hours."

Yeah, the atheists are the only assholes here. The theists can have their loud obnoxious advertisement, but the atheists get their quiet fliers torn down.
 
2013-12-01 09:11:03 AM

letrole: the sound reminds them that they're marginalised failures who lack a sense community


This sentence is a failure that lacks a sense of of.
 
2013-12-01 09:12:33 AM

EvilEgg: What's next Hindus harmonizing in my hallway?


Well, you could always use the number 14 to St. Joseph-the-somewhat-divine-on-the-hill ballistic missile. It's in the attic.
 
2013-12-01 09:13:25 AM
Let's see how long it takes for my Athiest Bells to draw a dozen lawsuits, and whether they get retracted.

Religious scumbags are always screaming persecution when they get held to 10% of the standard that everyone else has to adhere to.

I am also amused to note that "Freedom Of Religion" has been dragged into this. (As usual, "freedom" means "we're going to ram this down your throat whether you like it or not, and fark anyone else of different beliefs".)

Happily, they're back to screwing poor people out of money, preaching hate, and banging their godbells as loudly as they want, so "freedom" wins again.
 
2013-12-01 09:14:54 AM
If they were calling people to prayers at a mosque it would be shut down immediately.
 
2013-12-01 09:16:58 AM

letrole: of course atheists hate church bells

the sound reminds them that they're marginalised failures who lack a sense community


Heh heh

I liked this one.
 
2013-12-01 09:17:51 AM

johnryan51: If they were calling people to prayers at a mosque it would be shut down immediately.


That's not what the guy from the council said.
 
2013-12-01 09:18:51 AM
But when my religion instructs me to blast Slayer at 7:00 on a Sunday morning, I'M the jerk...
 
2013-12-01 09:18:58 AM
They rang the crap out of them every morning in the town I lived in in Switzerland. I really miss that.
 
2013-12-01 09:22:22 AM

edmo: Bedstead Polisher: You've got to love people who move into a community then complain about it.

About as equally as those who complain about people who move into their communities.


My uncle is one of many people who built houses in a farm area somewhat close to a city. It's still a farm area but apparently some of these city people who've moved in have started a petition to get slow-moving tractors off the roads. It's ridiculous.
You bought your house, you knew what you were getting into!
 
2013-12-01 09:22:39 AM

EvilEgg: johnryan51: If they were calling people to prayers at a mosque it would be shut down immediately.

That's not what the guy from the council said.


I'm sure he meant it too.
 
2013-12-01 09:26:58 AM
I'm not religious at all and I enjoy the bells on Sunday. Relaxing on the porch I can hear two of them. I also like the bugle at the military academy in town and the sea lions barking all day. Stuff like that gives a neighborhood charecter.
 
2013-12-01 09:52:34 AM
Live near 2 churches and don't mind the bells but when I hear 5 minutes of bell songs I get annoyed.
 
2013-12-01 09:55:23 AM

macross87: You don't like leaf blowing at 7am? When else do you expect people to perform phallic acts on leafs?


Wendell Clark's dressing room?
 
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2013-12-01 10:07:59 AM
"Churchs (sic) are not above the law," online commenter Genaro Montelongo posted before the charge was dropped. "I hope the judge gets it right and instructs them to obey the city ordinance. People shouldn't have to put up with this."

To some extent, churches are above the law. For example, around here they are protected from municipal zoning.
 
2013-12-01 10:20:48 AM
I don't see the problem with bells.  As long as they're following the standard noise ordinances, it's fine.

Even as an atheist who thinks that religion is retarding the progress of all mankind, I really can't find anything to get upset about when it comes to ringing bells.  I certainly don't think of bell noises as religious.
 
2013-12-01 10:21:57 AM

MFK: Ironically, as I type this, it's 9am on Sunday and I can hear no less than three farking churches ringing their bells simultaneously and it is an awful, cacophonous sound.

/Freedom of religion also means freedom FROM religion.


Freedom of Speech means Freedom FROM Speech. I disagree with you, so STFU.
 
2013-12-01 10:35:56 AM

SHUT UP YOU BASTARDS!!!!!!

 
2013-12-01 10:39:37 AM
I've grown to hate church bells over the last few days. I'm on vacation in New Orleans and some church close to my hotel rings their amazingly loud bells every 15 minutes starting at 7am. I can only imagine they do it to punish the hungover sinners.
 
2013-12-01 10:43:30 AM
I live next door to the Church of St Anthony of Padua.  Bells ring a few times a day.  It's not so bad in the winter, when all my windows are closed, but it is really funny when the ezan and the bells overlap.
 
2013-12-01 10:45:52 AM
I grew up near a church.  They used to ring their bell around either 9 or 10 on Sundays.  It was fine as it was just for a short period of time.

Bedstead Polisher: edmo: Bedstead Polisher: You've got to love people who move into a community then complain about it.

About as equally as those who complain about people who move into their communities.

My uncle is one of many people who built houses in a farm area somewhat close to a city. It's still a farm area but apparently some of these city people who've moved in have started a petition to get slow-moving tractors off the roads. It's ridiculous.
You bought your house, you knew what you were getting into!


I grew up in a rural county.  It now has a right to farm law because of a similar situation to what you described.
 
2013-12-01 10:54:26 AM
Oh dammit boy... the bells, the bells are calling
 
2013-12-01 10:56:37 AM

crotchgrabber: I'm not religious at all and I enjoy the bells on Sunday. Relaxing on the porch I can hear two of them. I also like the bugle at the military academy in town and the sea lions barking all day. Stuff like that gives a neighborhood charecter.


Agreed. Plus the town I'm in has the occasional random bagpiper...
 
2013-12-01 10:56:40 AM

MrKevvy: EvilEgg: What's next Hindus harmonizing in my hallway?

Shintoists shattering sheet glass in the shiathouse and shouting slogans?


Eight egotistical egotists, echoing egotistical egotisms.
 
2013-12-01 11:04:26 AM

Bedstead Polisher: You've got to love people who move into a community then complain about it.


Can you please explain how your position would work in the case of Marc Kessler

http://www.salon.com/2013/07/24/americas_scariest_police_chief_shoot s_ libtards_and_forms_militias/
 
2013-12-01 11:06:31 AM

47 is the new 42: I grew up near a church.  They used to ring their bell around either 9 or 10 on Sundays.  It was fine as it was just for a short period of time.

Bedstead Polisher: edmo: Bedstead Polisher: You've got to love people who move into a community then complain about it.

About as equally as those who complain about people who move into their communities.

My uncle is one of many people who built houses in a farm area somewhat close to a city. It's still a farm area but apparently some of these city people who've moved in have started a petition to get slow-moving tractors off the roads. It's ridiculous.
You bought your house, you knew what you were getting into!

I grew up in a rural county.  It now has a right to farm law because of a similar situation to what you described.


My church is so old, the city is actually named after it.  (It's one of the original California Missions.)  Yes it has bells, and not only o they ring very briefly before services, they still tell the time on the hour which is something I've found useful when downtown and distracted.  I know they don't ring at night out of respect to the neighbors, but I'd have to ask what this "quiet hours" are.

Of course, I think it's also still legal here to drive a giant tractor down a county road provided it is transiting between farm properties and not an actual highway or a street in the city center.  25mph limit, right down the center line I seem to remember seeing.
 
2013-12-01 11:08:29 AM
I can see how one might want it to stop after a five minutes or so.


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/ likes church bells
 
2013-12-01 11:16:14 AM
In Dallas you never hear church bells because the Catholics cower in fear of the Baptists and Methodist.
 
2013-12-01 11:29:28 AM
Sounds like a brown (noise) problem. Note the council-person's stake being a graduate of Guadalupe. Conflict of interest. We really need a mosque to go in and start screaming from the balcony to put their assertion of equality to the test.
 
2013-12-01 11:30:30 AM

wildcardjack: In Dallas you never hear church bells because the Catholics cower in fear of the Baptists and Methodist.


How do Texans not starve on Sunday with all the dinner bells ringing at the wrong time?
 
2013-12-01 11:47:03 AM
Church bells are fine in modetation, especially if they're real bells and not some cheap loudspeaker system.

Now a mosque, that would be annoying. It would be like hearing the Lion King theme six times a day starting before dawn.
 
2013-12-01 11:54:25 AM
I like the sound of church bells, as long as they are real bells and not some horrible, tinny recording.  Don't like bells playing hymns though. Also like the Islamic call to prayer; spent a lot of my youth in the Middle East so it reminds me of that, plus it's got a nice lilt to it.  There's a mosque fairly close to where I live now, but they don't seem to do the call five times a day so I wonder if that's to accommodate the locals.  The happy clappy folk play atrocious Christian rock very loudly which would drive me insane if I lived near them, but it's only a couple of times a week.
 
2013-12-01 12:13:41 PM

ACunningPlan: I like the sound of church bells, as long as they are real bells and not some horrible, tinny recording.  Don't like bells playing hymns though. Also like the Islamic call to prayer; spent a lot of my youth in the Middle East so it reminds me of that, plus it's got a nice lilt to it.  There's a mosque fairly close to where I live now, but they don't seem to do the call five times a day so I wonder if that's to accommodate the locals.  The happy clappy folk play atrocious Christian rock very loudly which would drive me insane if I lived near them, but it's only a couple of times a week.


Hari Krishnas like Christian Rock? Learn something new every day ^_^
 
2013-12-01 12:15:24 PM

ReverendJynxed: ACunningPlan: I like the sound of church bells, as long as they are real bells and not some horrible, tinny recording.  Don't like bells playing hymns though. Also like the Islamic call to prayer; spent a lot of my youth in the Middle East so it reminds me of that, plus it's got a nice lilt to it.  There's a mosque fairly close to where I live now, but they don't seem to do the call five times a day so I wonder if that's to accommodate the locals.  The happy clappy folk play atrocious Christian rock very loudly which would drive me insane if I lived near them, but it's only a couple of times a week.

Hari Krishnas like Christian Rock? Learn something new every day ^_^


Erk! Hare too :P
 
2013-12-01 12:24:13 PM
One of the things I enjoyed most about Michigan State were the carillon concerts when I was a student there.
Suing over musical instruments being played regularly how they have been for 114 years (where they were
installed 114 years ago) is beyond petty. It breaks into entitled asshat territory.
 
2013-12-01 12:39:40 PM
The man who filed - then quickly dropped - a criminal noise complaint

He dropped it after several of his Christian neighbors politely suggested god might smite him.
Yeah that was it.
 
2013-12-01 12:43:10 PM
Well I've always said, There's nothing an agnostic can't do if he really doesn't know whether he believes in anything or not.
 
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