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(Telegraph)   In case you don't have enough reasons to hate YouTube, the site is now censoring an erotic promotional film by Penelope Cruz   (telegraph.co.uk) divider line 47
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2013-12-01 07:52:13 AM
I thought it would be about that upcoming movie she has as a Bosnian war widow, or something.  That may be understandable.

Hot women in lingerie?  Don't hide that from the world.

BTW, I think YouTube makes you log in to confirm you're an adult.. and I used to have an account, but ever since they insisted I couldn't log in without signing up for a new gmail account, I've been refusing.
 
2013-12-01 07:54:06 AM
Internet users attempting to watch it are greeted with a message saying it "may be inappropriate for some viewers" and are asked to sign in to confirm their age.


THAT'S NOT CENSORSHIP, YOU TWIT.

In fact, that's the opposite of censorship.
 
2013-12-01 07:59:27 AM

Kyosuke: Internet users attempting to watch it are greeted with a message saying it "may be inappropriate for some viewers" and are asked to sign in to confirm their age.

THAT'S NOT CENSORSHIP, YOU TWIT.

In fact, that's the opposite of censorship.


Go on.. I want to hear how you explain that.
 
2013-12-01 08:27:21 AM

Alphax: Kyosuke: Internet users attempting to watch it are greeted with a message saying it "may be inappropriate for some viewers" and are asked to sign in to confirm their age.

THAT'S NOT CENSORSHIP, YOU TWIT.

In fact, that's the opposite of censorship.

Go on.. I want to hear how you explain that.


Ok. Censorship would have been removing the video entirely, thus preventing anyone from seeing it (on YouTube, at least).

YouTube kept they video available for people to see, while adding a measure to prevent idiots (aka: American Family Assoc., et al) from being able to cause a legitimate stink about it. Keeping the video available for viewing would in fact be the opposite of removing it from the site entirely.
 
2013-12-01 08:38:00 AM
I didn't even get the "may be inappropriate" warning.  Of course that could be because Google knows this is practically "The 1820's good christian girl fashion hour"  compared to what I usually search for.
 
2013-12-01 08:40:39 AM
I think I found it.

"Sign in to confirm your age."

So no, it's not available.
 
2013-12-01 09:03:35 AM

Kyosuke: Alphax: Kyosuke: Internet users attempting to watch it are greeted with a message saying it "may be inappropriate for some viewers" and are asked to sign in to confirm their age.

THAT'S NOT CENSORSHIP, YOU TWIT.

In fact, that's the opposite of censorship.

Go on.. I want to hear how you explain that.

Ok. Censorship would have been removing the video entirely, thus preventing anyone from seeing it (on YouTube, at least).

YouTube kept they video available for people to see, while adding a measure to prevent idiots (aka: American Family Assoc., et al) from being able to cause a legitimate stink about it. Keeping the video available for viewing would in fact be the opposite of removing it from the site entirely.


Or forcing the user to place black bars over any naughty bits, or forcing the user to edit out the nudity in some way, etc.

I'm with you... Filtered access is not the same idea as censorship. The former is a flimsy cya move on YouTube's part to restrict access to really honest children. The latter is about preventing content from being fully expereiened by any audience.
 
2013-12-01 09:07:11 AM

Alphax: I think I found it.

"Sign in to confirm your age."

So no, it's not available.


So requiring registration = censorship now. Neat.
 
2013-12-01 09:12:45 AM

costermonger: Alphax: I think I found it.

"Sign in to confirm your age."

So no, it's not available.

So requiring registration = censorship now. Neat.


(blinks)  That's a joke, right?
 
2013-12-01 09:16:15 AM
Oh, and since no one else will: The video in question.
 
2013-12-01 09:22:40 AM
 
2013-12-01 09:29:20 AM
"...erotic blah blah...Penelope Cr-

TO THE INTERNETS!
 
2013-12-01 09:31:12 AM
I thought the Hero tag was missing because they meant Ted Cruz.
 
2013-12-01 09:52:48 AM

Kyosuke: Oh, and since no one else will: The video in question.


Thank you.  That was six minutes well spent.  Like me.
 
2013-12-01 09:55:32 AM
There was no nudity in that at all. Why are Steel Panther videos awash in naked breasts OK on Youtube but this ad is not?
 
2013-12-01 09:57:48 AM

Alphax: costermonger: Alphax: I think I found it.

"Sign in to confirm your age."

So no, it's not available.

So requiring registration = censorship now. Neat.

(blinks)  That's a joke, right?


I think you need a bloody mary or something.
 
2013-12-01 09:59:19 AM
American companies.

You've got Facebook showing beheading but God forbid a boob show up.
 
2013-12-01 10:30:44 AM

thamike: Alphax: costermonger: Alphax: I think I found it.

"Sign in to confirm your age."

So no, it's not available.

So requiring registration = censorship now. Neat.

(blinks)  That's a joke, right?

I think you need a bloody mary or something.


A swift kick in the dictionary might be more a pro pro
 
2013-12-01 10:35:12 AM

Thudfark: thamike: Alphax: costermonger: Alphax: I think I found it.

"Sign in to confirm your age."

So no, it's not available.

So requiring registration = censorship now. Neat.

(blinks)  That's a joke, right?

I think you need a bloody mary or something.

A swift kick in the dictionary might be more a pro pro


Since I still can't see the damned video, I'd say the censorship is pretty effective.
 
2013-12-01 10:40:56 AM

Alphax: Thudfark: thamike: Alphax: costermonger: Alphax: I think I found it.

"Sign in to confirm your age."

So no, it's not available.

So requiring registration = censorship now. Neat.

(blinks)  That's a joke, right?

I think you need a bloody mary or something.

A swift kick in the dictionary might be more a pro pro

Since I still can't see the damned video, I'd say the censorship is pretty effective.


Yes, youtube decided to censor you and you alone. The rest of the free world that clicks a button can see it.

i.stack.imgur.com
 
2013-12-01 10:52:40 AM

Thudfark: Alphax: Thudfark: thamike: Alphax: costermonger: Alphax: I think I found it.

"Sign in to confirm your age."

So no, it's not available.

So requiring registration = censorship now. Neat.

(blinks)  That's a joke, right?

I think you need a bloody mary or something.

A swift kick in the dictionary might be more a pro pro

Since I still can't see the damned video, I'd say the censorship is pretty effective.

Yes, youtube decided to censor you and you alone. The rest of the free world that clicks a button can see it.

[i.stack.imgur.com image 750x600]


Not true at all.  Is the pic for yourself?
 
2013-12-01 10:55:55 AM

Alphax: Thudfark: Alphax: Thudfark: thamike: Alphax: costermonger: Alphax: I think I found it.

"Sign in to confirm your age."

So no, it's not available.

So requiring registration = censorship now. Neat.

(blinks)  That's a joke, right?

I think you need a bloody mary or something.

A swift kick in the dictionary might be more a pro pro

Since I still can't see the damned video, I'd say the censorship is pretty effective.

Yes, youtube decided to censor you and you alone. The rest of the free world that clicks a button can see it.

[i.stack.imgur.com image 750x600]

Not true at all.  Is the pic for yourself?


So you're complaining about not being able to see the video that the rest of us can see and not really understanding what censorship is. Is that an accurate summary? Or do you need a clarification on what accurate means as well?
 
2013-12-01 11:02:06 AM

Thudfark: So you're complaining about not being able to see the video that the rest of us can see and not really understanding what censorship is. Is that an accurate summary? Or do you need a clarification on what accurate means as well?


They are requiring a YouTube account, which also now requires a Gmail signup, which is why my old YouTube account no longer works.

So no, the rest of you do not all see it, unless you all have YouTube accounts.
 
2013-12-01 11:03:35 AM

Alphax: Thudfark: So you're complaining about not being able to see the video that the rest of us can see and not really understanding what censorship is. Is that an accurate summary? Or do you need a clarification on what accurate means as well?

They are requiring a YouTube account, which also now requires a Gmail signup, which is why my old YouTube account no longer works.

So no, the rest of you do not all see it, unless you all have YouTube accounts.


Odd. I do not have a gmail account. Yet I do have youtube accounts.
 
2013-12-01 11:06:57 AM

Alphax: Thudfark: So you're complaining about not being able to see the video that the rest of us can see and not really understanding what censorship is. Is that an accurate summary? Or do you need a clarification on what accurate means as well?

They are requiring a YouTube account, which also now requires a Gmail signup, which is why my old YouTube account no longer works.

So no, the rest of you do not all see it, unless you all have YouTube accounts.


And you think this is censorship? Really?
 
2013-12-01 11:08:01 AM
ZOMG fark made me type my password to post this! Censorship!
 
2013-12-01 11:13:30 AM

Thudfark: Alphax: Thudfark: So you're complaining about not being able to see the video that the rest of us can see and not really understanding what censorship is. Is that an accurate summary? Or do you need a clarification on what accurate means as well?

They are requiring a YouTube account, which also now requires a Gmail signup, which is why my old YouTube account no longer works.

So no, the rest of you do not all see it, unless you all have YouTube accounts.

And you think this is censorship? Really?


'Think' makes it sound like opinion.  I know it is.
 
2013-12-01 11:17:50 AM

Alphax: Thudfark: Alphax: Thudfark: So you're complaining about not being able to see the video that the rest of us can see and not really understanding what censorship is. Is that an accurate summary? Or do you need a clarification on what accurate means as well?

They are requiring a YouTube account, which also now requires a Gmail signup, which is why my old YouTube account no longer works.

So no, the rest of you do not all see it, unless you all have YouTube accounts.

And you think this is censorship? Really?

'Think' makes it sound like opinion.  I know it is.


That's, just like your opinion, man.
 
2013-12-01 11:20:16 AM

Thudfark: Alphax: Thudfark: Alphax: Thudfark: So you're complaining about not being able to see the video that the rest of us can see and not really understanding what censorship is. Is that an accurate summary? Or do you need a clarification on what accurate means as well?

They are requiring a YouTube account, which also now requires a Gmail signup, which is why my old YouTube account no longer works.

So no, the rest of you do not all see it, unless you all have YouTube accounts.

And you think this is censorship? Really?

'Think' makes it sound like opinion.  I know it is.

That's, just like your opinion, man.


And the 'opinion' of Penelope Cruz, who probably wants a broad audience for her work.
 
2013-12-01 11:21:14 AM

Alphax: Thudfark: Alphax: Thudfark: Alphax: Thudfark: So you're complaining about not being able to see the video that the rest of us can see and not really understanding what censorship is. Is that an accurate summary? Or do you need a clarification on what accurate means as well?

They are requiring a YouTube account, which also now requires a Gmail signup, which is why my old YouTube account no longer works.

So no, the rest of you do not all see it, unless you all have YouTube accounts.

And you think this is censorship? Really?

'Think' makes it sound like opinion.  I know it is.

That's, just like your opinion, man.

And the 'opinion' of Penelope Cruz, who probably wants a broad audience for her work.


Don't call chicks broads. They don't like that.
 
2013-12-01 11:24:27 AM

Alphax: They are requiring a YouTube account, which also now requires a Gmail signup, which is why my old YouTube account no longer works.

So no, the rest of you do not all see it, unless you all have YouTube accounts.


Gmail requires a password too. I can't believe Google is censoring emails from people.
 
2013-12-01 11:29:22 AM

Master of the Flying Guillotine: Alphax: They are requiring a YouTube account, which also now requires a Gmail signup, which is why my old YouTube account no longer works.

So no, the rest of you do not all see it, unless you all have YouTube accounts.

Gmail requires a password too. I can't believe Google is censoring emails from people.


FOOL! Can't you see the repression inherent in the system? They're hiding everything form you! They don't want you to know the secrets to a longer, erecter penis! WAKE UP!
 
2013-12-01 11:33:48 AM

Alphax: And the 'opinion' of Penelope Cruz, who probably wants a broad audience for her work.


In TFA she also claims it was "banned".
 
2013-12-01 12:50:14 PM
Not one?  Wow!

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
kab
2013-12-01 12:50:55 PM
Not seeing how this is censorship.   And that song is terrible.

next.
 
2013-12-01 12:54:36 PM
We're supposed to hate YouTube now?

/Didn't get the memo
//So much to hate
 
2013-12-01 01:04:01 PM
Google f#@ked up YouTube when they integrated Google Plus.

Now, where I could see how many votes for 'up' or 'down' per comment, I can't see that.
Now, when I want to click someone posting a timestamp in a comment, to allow me to immediately reach that point in the video, I can't do that.
Now, if I want to try to remain quasi-anonymous, to just use my previous YouTube account, it won't let me.
Now, if I want to see comments posted in the order that they are being posted (as in, 2 hours ago, three weeks ago), I have a lot of trouble doing that.
Now, if I don't want to sign up for a Google plus account, I can barely comment to a video.
Now, if I want to...

And, of course, there is the lovely way that YouTube slash Google has treated your 'YouTube Inbox.' First, they removed it completely from your main page. Then, they hid it deep in 'Analytics.' Yea. Like people are going to think to look there. And now that Google Plus has taken over, even if someone does respond to your comment,  you won't find out in your Inbox.

Oh yea there are also multiple 'empty' comments all over YouTube now. Where it says 'from Google +' but there are no remarks because the person commented before Google Plus was integrated and for some damn reason their remarks aren't showing up as a result.

Then there is the beautiful way Google all but FORCED all this crap onto YouTube users.
The main concern seems to be privacy -- a lot of people have 'real names' on Google Plus but use semi-anonymous accounts (farker13423) for YouTube. By logging into  -- or being forced to log into -- Google Plus to comment, this option is out the window.

A seriously stupid and bad idea that Google is trying to play away from and insisting on doing despite all the idiots complaining. Don't get me started on all the bullcrap ASCII that morons are throwing into comments. "This is bob! Bob has a tank!"  I don't give a damn; you are flooding perfectly good (or what used to be perfectly good before Google Plus took over) comment threads. STOP IT.

YouTube, in a word, "sucks." And the majority of that reason is because of Google Plus.
 
2013-12-01 01:13:00 PM

jmr61: Not one?  Wow!

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 394x500]


It's sad isn't it?  Too much estrogen in our chickens is what I say.

1.bp.blogspot.com


image.funscrape.com

www.desktopas.com

www.deoveritas.com

3.bp.blogspot.com

3.bp.blogspot.com

cdn05.cdn.justjared.com

1.bp.blogspot.com

wallpapertopix.com
 
2013-12-01 01:21:10 PM

costermonger: Alphax: And the 'opinion' of Penelope Cruz, who probably wants a broad audience for her work.

In TFA she also claims it was "banned".


Because that gets press, I wadger she requested it be put behind the 'are you 18' check box just so she could complain about it
 
2013-12-01 03:06:22 PM

Kyosuke: Oh, and since no one else will: The video in question.


Unless Cruz suddenly changed her name to "John Cameron Mitchell", that's not the video in question.
 
2013-12-01 03:22:58 PM
Subby, if you selectively ignore parts of breastfeeding videos, you can see all the boobies you want.

/I'm just saying...
 
2013-12-01 03:27:20 PM

Alphax: Thudfark: So you're complaining about not being able to see the video that the rest of us can see and not really understanding what censorship is. Is that an accurate summary? Or do you need a clarification on what accurate means as well?

They are requiring a YouTube account, which also now requires a Gmail signup, which is why my old YouTube account no longer works.

So no, the rest of you do not all see it, unless you all have YouTube accounts.


I do not have a Youtube account and I can see it, so you're wrong. Even if you did have to sign in, that isn't censorship.
 
2013-12-01 03:36:23 PM

puckrock2000: Kyosuke: Oh, and since no one else will: The video in question.

Unless Cruz suddenly changed her name to "John Cameron Mitchell", that's not the video in question.


This. While I certainly appreciated all the cavorting and writhing from Melissa George and company, I expected to see Penelope or Monica(preferably both) eventually join in on the fun.....


Needless to say, my disappointment is deep and abiding.
 
2013-12-01 06:57:23 PM
I don't really care about this video one way or another, but I popped in to point out that Alphax is technically totally right. When Youtube puts an age gate on a video, that's the very definition of internet censorship. Just ask the ACLU, EFF, Supreme Court, etc.
 
2013-12-01 08:04:18 PM

HotWingAgenda: I don't really care about this video one way or another, but I popped in to point out that Alphax is technically totally right. When Youtube puts an age gate on a video, that's the very definition of internet censorship. Just ask the ACLU, EFF, Supreme Court, etc.


So the ACLU, EFF, Supreme Court etc ruled in favour of letting 10 year olds watch hard core granny porn? Niiiice.

I will grant the technicality, not the spirit. Age restrictions are terms of service, not restrictions of free speech, hence not censorship in the way most people see censorship. China farking with the internet is censorship, Russia banning all sorts of crap is censorship. Really big difference if you ask me. Troubling people to log in to see some t&a can't be seriously seen as censorship, it may be cryptofacism, but not censorship.
 
2013-12-02 12:03:57 AM

Thudfark: HotWingAgenda: I don't really care about this video one way or another, but I popped in to point out that Alphax is technically totally right. When Youtube puts an age gate on a video, that's the very definition of internet censorship. Just ask the ACLU, EFF, Supreme Court, etc.

So the ACLU, EFF, Supreme Court etc ruled in favour of letting 10 year olds watch hard core granny porn? Niiiice.

I will grant the technicality, not the spirit. Age restrictions are terms of service, not restrictions of free speech, hence not censorship in the way most people see censorship. China farking with the internet is censorship, Russia banning all sorts of crap is censorship. Really big difference if you ask me. Troubling people to log in to see some t&a can't be seriously seen as censorship, it may be cryptofacism, but not censorship.


Censorship is any action taken to prevent someone from viewing material based on the censor's ethical or moral beliefs. When someone decides that only a certain group of people have the right to view something, that is censorship, period. It doesn't have to be done by a government body - an author can censor their own work, or a company like Google can censor user-submitted materials on their services.
 
2013-12-02 01:00:12 AM

HotWingAgenda: Thudfark: HotWingAgenda: I don't really care about this video one way or another, but I popped in to point out that Alphax is technically totally right. When Youtube puts an age gate on a video, that's the very definition of internet censorship. Just ask the ACLU, EFF, Supreme Court, etc.

So the ACLU, EFF, Supreme Court etc ruled in favour of letting 10 year olds watch hard core granny porn? Niiiice.

I will grant the technicality, not the spirit. Age restrictions are terms of service, not restrictions of free speech, hence not censorship in the way most people see censorship. China farking with the internet is censorship, Russia banning all sorts of crap is censorship. Really big difference if you ask me. Troubling people to log in to see some t&a can't be seriously seen as censorship, it may be cryptofacism, but not censorship.

Censorship is any action taken to prevent someone from viewing material based on the censor's ethical or moral beliefs. When someone decides that only a certain group of people have the right to view something, that is censorship, period. It doesn't have to be done by a government body - an author can censor their own work, or a company like Google can censor user-submitted materials on their services.


Like I said, I'll take the technical. And I realize anyone can will and does censor for whatever whim under strict interpretation of censorship. Again as I said, calling this censorship in the same breath as the other forms I mentioned is disingenuous, even if correct. It would be the same as calling murder assault.
 
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