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(Daily Mail)   NASA plans to sow and nurture fake seeds on its fake moon set   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 34
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2013-12-01 07:36:22 AM
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2013-12-01 07:47:48 AM
Look's like the Chinese are going to beat us to the moon.
 
2013-12-01 07:50:16 AM
That can't be simulated on Earth for hundreds of millions less? Shirley zero-G germination experiments have been done by now. The radiation can be replicated.
 
2013-12-01 08:06:26 AM
Flower seedlings???  Sure...Gives a whole new meaning to being "over the moon high".
 
2013-12-01 08:12:33 AM
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Always appropriate.
 
2013-12-01 08:35:31 AM
Why would you want to live on the moon? That place looks boring.
 
2013-12-01 08:35:48 AM

foo monkey: Shirley zero-G germination experiments have been done by now.


The moon has gravity, and don't call me Shirley.
 
2013-12-01 08:40:57 AM

abhorrent1: Why would you want to live on the moon? That place looks boring.



Yeah, the place has no atmosphere at all.
 
2013-12-01 08:47:49 AM
Discord nods in approval.
 
2013-12-01 08:51:00 AM
static2.wikia.nocookie.net

Way ahead of you, chief!
 
2013-12-01 08:57:57 AM
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2013-12-01 10:23:30 AM
Meh. Been done. Years ago NASA did an experiment growing plants in a lab using lunar soil brought back by Apollo.Turns out plants grow OK...
 
2013-12-01 10:40:08 AM
tatianataran.org.ua
 
2013-12-01 10:56:10 AM
Can we get a source that's not the Daily Mail? 99% of what's on there is BS or hyperbole.
 
2013-12-01 11:41:56 AM
WE DONT WANT NO MOON CHEESE BABY!
 
2013-12-01 11:52:49 AM
Since it's the Daily Mail, I am even questioning if this "moon" thing exists
 
2013-12-01 11:57:03 AM
If the moon's radiation would mutate the plant, would it be considered an alien?
 
2013-12-01 12:28:15 PM

Richard C Stanford: Can we get a source that's not the Daily Mail? 99% of what's on there is BS or hyperbole.


http://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/cct/office/cif/2013/lunar_plant.htm l
 
2013-12-01 12:30:06 PM
Meh.  I hate the way Fark munges links.  IMO, when you hit "add comment", if it's going to make any changes at all, then it shouldn't submit, it should go to the "preview" thing instead.

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/cct/office/cif/2013/lunar_plant.htm l

This link should work.
 
2013-12-01 01:18:17 PM

mark12A: Meh. Been done. Years ago NASA did an experiment growing plants in a lab using lunar soil brought back by Apollo.Turns out plants grow OK...


Really? I wouldn't think that would be the case at all. It's not soil in the sense of soil. I'm going to have to look that up, because that's really interesting.

-runs off to look-

Doesn't look like that's been done. They did do this though: "One previous study conducted by ESA in 2008 concluded that plants such as marigolds can be grown in crushed rock, which closely resembles lunar soil." Source: http://www.spacesafetymagazine.com/2013/05/17/wageningen-ur-study-poss ibility-plant-growth-mars/

So you're correct in premise, which is still really fascinating. I wouldn't have thought they could grow in crushed rock without a lot of added nutrients and other minerals and whatnot.
 
2013-12-01 01:18:26 PM
Way to go, NASA.. sending plants off on a suicide mission. Hope you're happy.
 
2013-12-01 01:21:19 PM
Ooo dug a little further and found the Apollo experiments Mark12A was referring to!

http://www.howtogeek.com/117072/

Off to watch/read up on it, just wanted to add that correction in before I did! Soooo cool!
 
2013-12-01 05:24:03 PM

Lady Indica: mark12A: Meh. Been done. Years ago NASA did an experiment growing plants in a lab using lunar soil brought back by Apollo.Turns out plants grow OK...

Really? I wouldn't think that would be the case at all. It's not soil in the sense of soil. I'm going to have to look that up, because that's really interesting.

-runs off to look-

Doesn't look like that's been done. They did do this though: "One previous study conducted by ESA in 2008 concluded that plants such as marigolds can be grown in crushed rock, which closely resembles lunar soil." Source: http://www.spacesafetymagazine.com/2013/05/17/wageningen-ur-study-poss ibility-plant-growth-mars/

So you're correct in premise, which is still really fascinating. I wouldn't have thought they could grow in crushed rock without a lot of added nutrients and other minerals and whatnot.


I don't think cotton balls have any minerals or whatnot but I grew some shiat in those when I was a kid.
Smelled terrible.
 
2013-12-01 08:22:54 PM
Have to send a monkey before humans go to the moon.
 
2013-12-01 08:25:17 PM

mark12A: Meh. Been done. Years ago NASA did an experiment growing plants in a lab using lunar soil brought back by Apollo.Turns out plants grow OK...


That just means there isn`t anything too toxic in there. They would have fed them nutrients.

Cotton is grown on a plant and if you keep it wet it will rot and release nutrients. And smell.
 
2013-12-01 08:40:54 PM
Djembe

Way to go, NASA.. sending plants off on a suicide mission.


imgc.allpostersimages.com


"NASA has ordained that the plants they sent to the Moon to explore in peace, will remain on the moon to rest in peace."
 
2013-12-01 10:36:38 PM

Lady Indica: mark12A: Meh. Been done. Years ago NASA did an experiment growing plants in a lab using lunar soil brought back by Apollo.Turns out plants grow OK...

Really? I wouldn't think that would be the case at all. It's not soil in the sense of soil. I'm going to have to look that up, because that's really interesting.

-runs off to look-

Doesn't look like that's been done. They did do this though: "One previous study conducted by ESA in 2008 concluded that plants such as marigolds can be grown in crushed rock, which closely resembles lunar soil." Source: http://www.spacesafetymagazine.com/2013/05/17/wageningen-ur-study-poss ibility-plant-growth-mars/

So you're correct in premise, which is still really fascinating. I wouldn't have thought they could grow in crushed rock without a lot of added nutrients and other minerals and whatnot.


FYI - yes they have done this. NASA created simulated lunar soil as close as we can get chemically here on earth and practiced growing multiple types of crops over several years. They even got local school kids involved to help grow and care for the crops. Also long as certain nutrients and minerals are supplemented into the soil the lunar soil can sustain certain crops rather well.
 
2013-12-02 02:22:07 AM
Water.  We're mostly water and we don't live long without it.  Lemme know when they manage to install water there.
 
2013-12-02 03:25:43 AM

foo monkey: That can't be simulated on Earth for hundreds of millions less? Shirley zero-G germination experiments have been done by now. The radiation can be replicated.


Ain't zero G we're talking about.  We're talking about the environment you find of the farkin' moon.
 
2013-12-02 11:03:56 AM

NASABOY: Lady Indica: mark12A: Meh. Been done. Years ago NASA did an experiment growing plants in a lab using lunar soil brought back by Apollo.Turns out plants grow OK...

Really? I wouldn't think that would be the case at all. It's not soil in the sense of soil. I'm going to have to look that up, because that's really interesting.

-runs off to look-

Doesn't look like that's been done. They did do this though: "One previous study conducted by ESA in 2008 concluded that plants such as marigolds can be grown in crushed rock, which closely resembles lunar soil." Source: http://www.spacesafetymagazine.com/2013/05/17/wageningen-ur-study-poss ibility-plant-growth-mars/

So you're correct in premise, which is still really fascinating. I wouldn't have thought they could grow in crushed rock without a lot of added nutrients and other minerals and whatnot.

FYI - yes they have done this. NASA created simulated lunar soil as close as we can get chemically here on earth and practiced growing multiple types of crops over several years. They even got local school kids involved to help grow and care for the crops. Also long as certain nutrients and minerals are supplemented into the soil the lunar soil can sustain certain crops rather well.


It doesn't sound like this round is about the soil anyways.  The seeds are in a module and just have water added after landing.  All the needed nutrients are already included.  It's just measuring the effects of the radiation and gravity to see whether they all become sterile or have other genetic issues.  Presumably simulated radiation wouldn't be close enough to reliably test that.  It might not cost as much as it seems like, since it is a small module added to a commercial flight.
 
2013-12-02 11:23:53 AM
bunner

Lemme know when they manage to install water there.

It's there now.
 
2013-12-02 11:52:36 AM

studebaker hoch: bunner

Lemme know when they manage to install water there.

It's there now.


Wonderful news!  Do we have the tech to keep Gidney and Cloyd at bay?   :  )
 
2013-12-02 12:24:29 PM
I don't think you guys appreciate the timeless wonder of the whole thing....

You see, we sow the seeds.

Then, nature grows the seeds.

Then, we eat the seeds!
 
2013-12-02 01:00:35 PM
Given the moon's lesser gravity, most likely the plants will be able to fly.

...And shoot laser beams out of their eyes. If they had eyes.

Maybe they should send potatoes.
 
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