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2013-12-01 08:16:11 AM  
Only during the rainy season:  January 1 to December 31.
 
2013-12-01 08:17:23 AM  
Subby sounds like a Saints fan
 
2013-12-01 08:20:27 AM  
Two can be as bad as one, it's the loneliest number since the number one.
 
2013-12-01 08:23:50 AM  
Nobody likes them because of their gotdamn slideshows.  Kurt Cobain probably couldn't stand it.
 
2013-12-01 08:28:09 AM  
Nobody likes hipsters.

/especially other hipsters
 
2013-12-01 08:28:14 AM  
Because Seattle is full of douches all trying to out-douche each other?

/they were douches before it was cool
 
2013-12-01 08:41:17 AM  
"Study" seems to confuse "loneliness" with "loners".
 
2013-12-01 08:43:07 AM  
It's apparently 5th in the nation according to Sharecare (of real age infamy).  Maybe Seattle can write up a suicide pact with #4 city.
 
2013-12-01 08:52:27 AM  
Maybe if they could get a good night sleep they'd have more energy to socialise.
 
2013-12-01 08:52:42 AM  
Well, I felt sorry for her.  She was sitting down at the end of the bar, and had just been snubbed by Los Angeles of all cities.  You'd think that a smoker would be a little less choosy.  Anyway, one thing led to another and she ended up making me breakfast.  Fun girl, a bit of a crier, though.
 
2013-12-01 09:00:15 AM  
How the-ever-loving-fark do you "do" a city?
 
2013-12-01 09:09:36 AM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: How the-ever-loving-fark do you "do" a city?


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2013-12-01 09:12:56 AM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: How the-ever-loving-fark do you "do" a city?


answer
 
2013-12-01 09:44:16 AM  

Abox: DontMakeMeComeBackThere: How the-ever-loving-fark do you "do" a city?

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Haha, nice.
 
2013-12-01 09:44:30 AM  
Oh, look. It's *this* story again.
 
2013-12-01 09:58:22 AM  

Abox: DontMakeMeComeBackThere: How the-ever-loving-fark do you "do" a city?

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ohh mister greenfield!

Which is ironic since she only bones that one guy at the end.  The little one in the tennis sauna was better.
 
2013-12-01 10:49:58 AM  

Tatterdemalian: Nobody likes hipsters.

/especially other hipsters


QFT
 
2013-12-01 11:00:36 AM  

The Googles Do Nothing: Nobody likes them because of their gotdamn slideshows.  Kurt Cobain probably couldn't stand it.


Agreed.  Had a Stopped Reading There moment when I got to this: Why is Seattle such an anti-social city? Click the slideshow below to see our theories, then I came here to complain about it.

CSB:
Friend of mine did a postdoc in Seattle and complained that the women there were inaccessibly antisocial.  I told him a story of being invited to share a table with three lasses at karaoke, and he said that sort of thing never happens in Seattle.

ZzeusS: Abox: DontMakeMeComeBackThere: How the-ever-loving-fark do you "do" a city?

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ohh mister greenfield!

Which is ironic since she only bones that one guy at the end.  The little one in the tennis sauna was better.


I find the shower scene creepy.  They're supposed to be high school cheerleaders and their boyfriends, but the male actors are clearly in their 40s.  The C-section scar on one of the cheerleaders isn't helping either.

/Fark's text editor recognises postdoc as a real word, but not Fark
 
2013-12-01 11:03:24 AM  
As I sit here, looking out my window into the dark and cloudy Sunday morning, I realize that yes, indeed, I am from Seattle.
 
2013-12-01 11:05:05 AM  
Wasn't so bad back in the day.

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2013-12-01 11:15:31 AM  
Im going to go out on a limb here and say its because Seattle is mainly a professional city.  People live there for work and not much else... I dont know anybody who has ever been like "Oh boy, cant wait to raise the kids in Seattle!"

but I  do know a lot of single people who live and/or commute there for work.
 
2013-12-01 11:18:15 AM  
If you aren't making friends in Seattle, then maybe you are trying to hang out with the wrong people. I never had fun with the downtown bar/club crowds. Most of the time I was going to BBQs, parties, camping trips or just having a beer after work with friends. My neighbors were real friendly too.
 
2013-12-01 11:28:08 AM  
It's the Seattle Freeze

People will chat with you anywhere but don't expect any invitations to dinner.  Personally, I like the Wikipedia explanation because when we lived in Minnesota the Scandanavians there were the same way.
 
2013-12-01 11:29:28 AM  
Is this the thread where outsiders pretend the Seattle freeze is a thing that exists and not just snobby people prejudging the city?
 
2013-12-01 11:44:01 AM  
For the benefit of Seattletransplants from the perspective of a Seattle native:

One thing I have found is that people in other areas of the country seem to be more open to building real friendships with co-workers (I spent a few months living in another area of the country, and all my co-workers were inviting me to go out and do stuff, I have it on good authority from out-of-town people who I have gotten to know that this is the case in many other areas, as well.).

Around here, its really about shared interests and activities people do outside of work where you find friends.  For people who don't expect that distinction, they probably get confused.

In the wintertime, I have bowling.  In the summertime, I have bicycling and hiking.  Plenty of people who want to do these things, and you find plenty of friends in the meanwhile.

So, IMHO, yes: the "Seattle Freeze" is a thing - kind of.  It isn't that people in Seattle are not friendly, its just that many of them separate their work lives from their personal lives.
 
2013-12-01 11:45:35 AM  
Then again, when you're really in need Seattleites are great at coming through. If it weren't for some Seattleites I could have been killed.

Seattle's awesome.  Smile more, you'll beat the freeze.
 
2013-12-01 12:00:36 PM  

Alonjar: Im going to go out on a limb here and say its because Seattle is mainly a professional city.  People live there for work and not much else... I dont know anybody who has ever been like "Oh boy, cant wait to raise the kids in Seattle!"

but I  do know a lot of single people who live and/or commute there for work.


You're not Alon, who lives in Seattle, are you?
 
2013-12-01 12:08:41 PM  
I'm a Seattle native and probably contribute in my own small way to the freeze, myself.  But I think that has more to do with my own introverted, loner tendencies than anything to do with Seattle.  Cause? Effect? I don't know, but I didn't suddenly behave any differently when I was in Hawaii or North Carolina.
 
2013-12-01 12:16:44 PM  
Head's up Seattle, at least you aren't Bellevue.
 
2013-12-01 12:17:20 PM  

ReverendJynxed: Head's up Seattle, at least you aren't Bellevue.


Gah heads. Kneed coffee.
 
2013-12-01 12:26:51 PM  
It's not that we don't like people, we just don't like you.   You come here from every farked up spot in the country, do nothing but biatch about how it ain't like there, and do every thing you can to make it as farked up as the place you just got here from.

Here's a pro tip from a native:  No one gives a shiat how you did it in New York, or LA, or Chicago, or wherever you came from.  If the first thing out of your yap is "Well, back in Stubenville we..." then just go home.  It's better there.
 
2013-12-01 12:31:06 PM  

ReverendJynxed: Head's up Seattle, at least you aren't Bellevue.


Or Renton.

/everything I know about Seattle I learned from Almost Live
//Be like Billy.  Mind your manners.
 
2013-12-01 12:34:43 PM  

Rent Party: It's not that we don't like people, we just don't like you.   You come here from every farked up spot in the country, do nothing but biatch about how it ain't like there, and do every thing you can to make it as farked up as the place you just got here from.

Here's a pro tip from a native:  No one gives a shiat how you did it in New York, or LA, or Chicago, or wherever you came from.  If the first thing out of your yap is "Well, back in Stubenville we..." then just go home.  It's better there.


Luckily I don't run into a lot of that, but damn if it isn't incredibly annoying when someone does that. Why the fark are you here if everything about Chicago is better? Shut the fark up and go back there already.
 
2013-12-01 12:49:35 PM  

Medic Zero: Rent Party: ...You come here from every farked up spot in the country, do nothing but biatch about how it ain't like there, and do every thing you can to make it as farked up as the place you just got here from.

Luckily I don't run into a lot of that, but damn if it isn't incredibly annoying when someone does that. Why the fark are you here if everything about Chicago is better? Shut the fark up and go back there already.


I used to run into that all the damn time in the 90s.
 
2013-12-01 01:01:26 PM  
Because they all wallow in depression while listening to Nirvana and Pearl Jam, still thinking they're edgy.
 
2013-12-01 01:31:01 PM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: How the-ever-loving-fark do you "do" a city?


The real answer
 
2013-12-01 01:37:10 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Is this the thread where outsiders pretend the Seattle freeze is a thing that exists and not just snobby people prejudging the city?


I think it's the thread where people who have never been to Seattle pretend that they know all about it because they heard that one Nirvana song and believe that we're all stuck living several decades in the past, just like they are back in whatever flyover state or deep south, 3rd world hell hole they live in.

This is also the thread for people who can't tell the difference between a healthy respect for privacy and "loneliness."  I don't live alone because I can't find friends, I live alone because I don't want them.  Sorry to break it to you, Mr. Gregarious, but my books are more interesting than you.
 
2013-12-01 01:45:19 PM  

FloydA: The My Little Pony Killer: Is this the thread where outsiders pretend the Seattle freeze is a thing that exists and not just snobby people prejudging the city?

I think it's the thread where people who have never been to Seattle pretend that they know all about it because they heard that one Nirvana song and believe that we're all stuck living several decades in the past, just like they are back in whatever flyover state or deep south, 3rd world hell hole they live in.

This is also the thread for people who can't tell the difference between a healthy respect for privacy and "loneliness."  I don't live alone because I can't find friends, I live alone because I don't want them.  Sorry to break it to you, Mr. Gregarious, but my books are more interesting than you.


So, I take it you're making yourself physically available to other people while you read. Why not go to a library?  There, it's enshrined in the rules that no one bother you while you're reading.  It seems to me you may be one of those that just wants to show others what you're reading, yet for some reason can't go the extra mile.

Please don't take this too personally, but how would you know if a gregarious person is less interesting than your book?  Intrinsically, by reading a book, that's a time investment and uses many cognitive abilities...well anyway people take even more time investment.
 
2013-12-01 01:57:02 PM  

Omnivorous: It's the Seattle Freeze

People will chat with you anywhere but don't expect any invitations to dinner.  Personally, I like the Wikipedia explanation because when we lived in Minnesota the Scandanavians there were the same way.


Seattle is a worker's city and many people don't want anything to do with their coworkers outside of the office.  It's an easy city to make friends in if you're an alcoholic, though.  Or smoke 1/4 oz a week and like to share.
 
2013-12-01 02:17:12 PM  

walktoanarcade: So, I take it you're making yourself physically available to other people while you read.


Sitting at a coffee shop =/= making one's self physically available to other people.

Just because I enjoy being places does not mean that I want some random stranger coming up to me and starting some inane small talk.  I already have friends, thanks; I don't need to get to know Fred from Tully's for my life to be complete.

I think this is the real explanation for the "Seattle Freeze".  People here, by and large, already have friends and don't really need more.  If you really feel the need to socialize with strangers, there are plenty of clubs to join, classes to take, etc.  Just stop taking it personally if the guy next to you on the bus isn't interested in being your bestest pal.
 
2013-12-01 02:23:04 PM  
Somewhat related, I've heard Portland described as "friendly" and I don't see it. I'm a fourth-generation Portlander and the city seems colder and less welcoming over the years. With natives it seems less so, but that could be a generational thing or shared history or something. This has become very apparent to me since moving out of the area six years ago. Eugene OR is 180 degrees different, occasionally to a boundary-less extreme, but it's easier to dodge those weirdos than trying to wiggle into a clique. Eugene is also and extended version of SE Portland, which is very comfortable for me.

Or maybe there are friendly people and assholes in every city.
 
2013-12-01 02:47:27 PM  

Rent Party: It's not that we don't like people, we just don't like you.   You come here from every farked up spot in the country, do nothing but biatch about how it ain't like there, and do every thing you can to make it as farked up as the place you just got here from.

Here's a pro tip from a native:  No one gives a shiat how you did it in New York, or LA, or Chicago, or wherever you came from.  If the first thing out of your yap is "Well, back in Stubenville we..." then just go home.  It's better there.


Spoken like a true Seattlite. Insular, condesccending, and generally prickish.
 
2013-12-01 02:49:01 PM  
walktoanarcade:

So, I take it you're making yourself physically available to other people while you read.

I take the ferry to work, so I am often reading in a public place.  Once I'm off work, I read at home.


Why not go to a library?  There, it's enshrined in the rules that no one bother you while you're reading.  It seems to me you may be one of those that just wants to show others what you're reading, yet for some reason can't go the extra mile.


If it was possible for me to avoid traveling to get to work, I would, but unfortunately, that's not an option.  I understand that people who don't like reading think that anyone reading in public is just doing it out of spite and smugness.  However, that actually is not the case.  It seems to me that you're making assumptions on the basis of insufficient evidence.  I read on the boat because I enjoy reading; I do not care if anyone else sees me doing so, but gregarious people seem to be of the opinion that they are the center of the universe and my behavior is somehow directed at them.

Please don't take this too personally, but how would you know if a gregarious person is less interesting than your book?

Because if they were remotely interesting, they wouldn't need to advertise.
 
2013-12-01 03:00:56 PM  

FloydA: The My Little Pony Killer: Is this the thread where outsiders pretend the Seattle freeze is a thing that exists and not just snobby people prejudging the city?

I think it's the thread where people who have never been to Seattle pretend that they know all about it because they heard that one Nirvana song and believe that we're all stuck living several decades in the past, just like they are back in whatever flyover state or deep south, 3rd world hell hole they live in.

This is also the thread for people who can't tell the difference between a healthy respect for privacy and "loneliness."  I don't live alone because I can't find friends, I live alone because I don't want them.  Sorry to break it to you, Mr. Gregarious, but my books are more interesting than you.


+1

/This seems to be the week where the people I have favorited turn out to be even better than I already knew.
 
2013-12-01 03:11:29 PM  

Abox: DontMakeMeComeBackThere: How the-ever-loving-fark do you "do" a city?

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Doubly awesome because of this: Link.
 
2013-12-01 03:23:56 PM  
Medic Zero:

+1

/This seems to be the week where the people I have favorited turn out to be even better than I already knew.


i105.photobucket.com
 
2013-12-01 03:27:25 PM  

Rent Party: Here's a pro tip from a native


You're a professional native?
 
2013-12-01 03:36:38 PM  

Rent Party: It's not that we don't like people, we just don't like you.   You come here from every farked up spot in the country, do nothing but biatch about how it ain't like there, and do every thing you can to make it as farked up as the place you just got here from.

Here's a pro tip from a native:  No one gives a shiat how you did it in New York, or LA, or Chicago, or wherever you came from.  If the first thing out of your yap is "Well, back in Stubenville we..." then just go home.  It's better there.



THIS!
 
2013-12-01 03:37:50 PM  
Well, if the commenters from Seattle in this thread have shown me anything, it's that I shouldn't move to Seattle.
 
2013-12-01 03:42:33 PM  

brookgo: Well, if the commenters from Seattle in this thread have shown me anything, it's that I shouldn't move to Seattle.



You have our blessings.
 
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