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(London Free Press)   Pregnant woman on a business trip to Britain and suffers a panic attack. Social workers: A) hospitalize her B) Force her to undergo a c-section C) keep the baby   (lfpress.com) divider line 112
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2013-11-30 11:41:41 PM
Is it C? Or all of the above?
 
2013-11-30 11:44:17 PM
storage.canoe.ca

I don't see the machine that goes "PING"...
 
2013-11-30 11:49:24 PM

fusillade762: [storage.canoe.ca image 650x446]

I don't see the machine that goes "PING"...


One ping only?
i1.ytimg.com
 
2013-11-30 11:49:30 PM
Please tell me this is fake.
 
2013-11-30 11:51:37 PM
 
2013-11-30 11:52:17 PM
They don't call it the Nanny State for nothing...
 
2013-11-30 11:52:26 PM
Seems like a lot of things missing in TFA. And why is it just hitting the news now when it happened nearly a year and a half ago?
 
2013-11-30 11:53:06 PM

cantsleep: Please tell me this is fake.


I have a sad for you
 
2013-11-30 11:53:12 PM

Bastard Toadflax: Is it C? Or all of the above?


All of the above, according to the article. I could see them being able to do that to a local, but a visiting citizen of another country?
 
2013-11-30 11:53:20 PM
But if they don't let crazy people have kids in Britain, how will the monarchy continue?
 
2013-11-30 11:54:36 PM

netcentric: They don't call it the Nanny State for nothing...


In this case it's a literal appellation, apparently.
 
2013-11-30 11:56:59 PM

ACunningPlan: Very odd story, but two other links:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/1048 52 81/Operate-on-this-mother-so-that-we-can-take-her-baby.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/10486452/Woman-has-child-take n- from-her-womb-by-social-services.html


Telegraph isn't that good of a source.
 
2013-11-30 11:59:05 PM

Satanic_Hamster: ACunningPlan: Very odd story, but two other links:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/1048 52 81/Operate-on-this-mother-so-that-we-can-take-her-baby.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/10486452/Woman-has-child-take n- from-her-womb-by-social-services.html

Telegraph isn't that good of a source.


I don't know, I can think of far worse in the U.K and other parts of the world, but to be fair I have been reading it for rather a long time so I'm likely biased:)
 
2013-11-30 11:59:20 PM
Nanny State.
 
2013-11-30 11:59:51 PM
How is this legal?
 
2013-11-30 11:59:56 PM
They need to do way instain mother.
 
2013-12-01 12:00:46 AM
Has anyone made a Nanny State comment yet?
 
2013-12-01 12:01:55 AM

HotWingAgenda: Bastard Toadflax: Is it C? Or all of the above?

All of the above, according to the article. I could see them being able to do that to a local, but a visiting citizen of another country?


I don't see why that would make any difference. It's appalling either way, but an Italian in Britain isn't much different than a Briton in Britain as far as the law is concerned. They're even allowed to vote and stand for election in local elections if they're EU citizens. Why should foreign nationals have a different standard for child endangerment than citizens? 

Between this and the cases coming out of New Mexico, I'm starting to think what we really need is hospitals and medical professionals who will say no to the cops. It should absolutely never be kosher to put someone under anesthesia when they explicitly refuse consent. I don't care if they have a warrant or a court order. Medical ethics trumps orders from the state.
 
2013-12-01 12:02:25 AM
A cure for panic attacks is a swift punch to the side of the head. Fictional illnesses,regardless of what Dr. Phil says.
 
2013-12-01 12:03:03 AM
I'm thinking there is something we aren't seeing here.   A "panic attack"?  I think this was a little more severe of a mental health episode than that.

Delivered the child by c-section after the mother had been in a mental ward for 5 months.  5 months, really?  Did it take that long to get her stable?  People generally don't end up in a psych ward for 5 months for a "panic attack" caused by missing a dose of medication.

That said, taking this child and putting it up for adoption in the UK, without consultation with Italian authorities and any investigation as to whether or not the child had relatives in Italy seems extremely unjust.
 
2013-12-01 12:03:34 AM
Curse you OBAMACARE!!!1!!1
 
2013-12-01 12:04:33 AM
Well at least the social workers didn't accuse her of being in a satanic cult and throw her in jail for years.

So in that respect the profession seems to have improved marginally since the 80s.
 
2013-12-01 12:04:41 AM
I'm sure 50 years from now this will be made into a heartwarming movie.


Ex-Texan: A cure for panic attacks is a swift punch to the side of the head. Fictional illnesses,regardless of what Dr. Phil says.


You must be bored.
 
2013-12-01 12:04:46 AM

Satanic_Hamster: Telegraph said something I don't want to hear, so it isn't that good of a source.


FTFM.

/also, the BBC isn't a good source any more either, since they mocked The One after he negotiated such a fair deal over Iran's nukes
//and NPR made fun of Obamacare, so they're clearly more right-wing than Faux News
 
2013-12-01 12:05:32 AM
The unnamed Italian national was in Britain for a work trip when she suffered a panic attack, which her family believes happened because she didn't take her medications for bipolar disorder.


The real story is, why do we let people with mental disorders to have children in the first place?
 
2013-12-01 12:08:13 AM

Churchill2004: I don't see why that would make any difference. It's appalling either way, but an Italian in Britain isn't much different than a Briton in Britain as far as the law is concerned. They're even allowed to vote and stand for election in local elections if they're EU citizens.


You don't have to be a resident of the UK to run for elected office in the UK? So I could run for mayor of Twatfordshire from the comfort of my home in California?
 
2013-12-01 12:11:18 AM
Prayers.
 
2013-12-01 12:12:27 AM

LemSkroob: The unnamed Italian national was in Britain for a work trip when she suffered a panic attack, which her family believes happened because she didn't take her medications for bipolar disorder.


The real story is, why do we let people with mental disorders to have children in the first place?


How else would you have got here?
 
2013-12-01 12:13:16 AM

HotWingAgenda: Churchill2004: I don't see why that would make any difference. It's appalling either way, but an Italian in Britain isn't much different than a Briton in Britain as far as the law is concerned. They're even allowed to vote and stand for election in local elections if they're EU citizens.

You don't have to be a resident of the UK to run for elected office in the UK? So I could run for mayor of Twatfordshire from the comfort of my home in California?


Not from California. You have to at least be some other form of Euroslime.
 
2013-12-01 12:14:20 AM

Silverstaff: month



Five months? The story said five weeks.
 
2013-12-01 12:15:33 AM

bigwf2007: Silverstaff: month


Five months? The story said five weeks.


Probably five weeks of her smearing shiat on the walls and attacking orderlies.
 
2013-12-01 12:15:44 AM

wildcardjack: Curse you OBAMACARE!!!1!!1


Adoption panels?
 
2013-12-01 12:18:02 AM
Bipolar is a serious mental illness and even more so when not taking medication.   There may be a good reason, perhaps her trying to keep the baby from being affected by the medicine.  This should have been sorted out before 15 months passed.  Not too long ago children were taken from the mentally ill parents to give them a safer environment.  A mother who is constantly freaking out cannot be healthy for a child.

/had people with bipolar in my life for years, including my brother.  When he is on his meds he is normal, when he is not, he loses his job and cannot support his family.  Always has a good reason to stop taking his meds.
 
2013-12-01 12:20:38 AM

Ex-Texan: A cure for panic attacks is a swift punch to the side of the head. Fictional illnesses,regardless of what Dr. Phil says.


Fascinating insight. Apparently I've been with two people who faked it. The first was scuba diving off Fort Bragg, and the second was leaning out the door 15k feet above Monterey. Having people uncontrollably claw at you is an interesting thing. Now that I know they faked it, I feel kinda silly for not just cutting them loose.
 
2013-12-01 12:25:05 AM
If they pulled that sh*t on an American woman, it would be like 1776 all over again here.
 
2013-12-01 12:26:32 AM

TV's Vinnie: If they pulled that sh*t on an American woman, it would be like 1776 all over again here.


No, she'd thank them for the free medical care.
 
2013-12-01 12:26:48 AM

HotWingAgenda: Churchill2004: I don't see why that would make any difference. It's appalling either way, but an Italian in Britain isn't much different than a Briton in Britain as far as the law is concerned. They're even allowed to vote and stand for election in local elections if they're EU citizens.

You don't have to be a resident of the UK to run for elected office in the UK? So I could run for mayor of Twatfordshire from the comfort of my home in California?


Once California becomes a member of the European Union and you've actually lived in Twatfordshire for a year, sure.
 
2013-12-01 12:28:19 AM
The joke is on the government, children are nothing but trouble.
 
2013-12-01 12:29:34 AM

Tatterdemalian: FTFM.

/also, the BBC isn't a good source any more either, since they mocked The One after he negotiated such a fair deal over Iran's nukes
//and NPR made fun of Obamacare, so they're clearly more right-wing than Faux News


Oh aren't you adorable.  Go back to reading the Daily Mail and the National Enquiror.
 
2013-12-01 12:30:59 AM

rev. dave: Bipolar is a serious mental illness and even more so when not taking medication.   There may be a good reason, perhaps her trying to keep the baby from being affected by the medicine.  This should have been sorted out before 15 months passed.  Not too long ago children were taken from the mentally ill parents to give them a safer environment.  A mother who is constantly freaking out cannot be healthy for a child.

/had people with bipolar in my life for years, including my brother.  When he is on his meds he is normal, when he is not, he loses his job and cannot support his family.  Always has a good reason to stop taking his meds.


Sort of what I was thinking. A lot of people who really need psych meds just hate taking them because whatever reason. And a person with bipolar disorder having 'a panic attack' sounds to me like 'she stopped taking her meds and went full fledge psychotic and the doctors feared for the child's life due to drug interactions'.
 
2013-12-01 12:35:09 AM
Well that's what happens when you visit a mideast shi-

Wait, that's Britain, not Bahrain. WTF
 
2013-12-01 12:37:59 AM
Five weeks in a hospital ward costs a lot more than an ambulance back to Italy. Something's missing in this story.
 
2013-12-01 12:40:13 AM

Churchill2004: HotWingAgenda: Churchill2004: I don't see why that would make any difference. It's appalling either way, but an Italian in Britain isn't much different than a Briton in Britain as far as the law is concerned. They're even allowed to vote and stand for election in local elections if they're EU citizens.

You don't have to be a resident of the UK to run for elected office in the UK? So I could run for mayor of Twatfordshire from the comfort of my home in California?

Once California becomes a member of the European Union and you've actually lived in Twatfordshire for a year, sure.


So you DO have to be a resident. The chick in TFA wasn't a resident of England, she was a visitor. She was in town for a business seminar, and they took the baby out of her belly and unilaterally changed its citizenship. That would be like the US finding a visiting English citizen just in town to see NYC's New Year's Eve party, and forcing them to buy American health insurance for the rest of their life.
 
2013-12-01 12:47:07 AM

kroonermanblack: rev. dave: Bipolar is a serious mental illness and even more so when not taking medication.   There may be a good reason, perhaps her trying to keep the baby from being affected by the medicine.  This should have been sorted out before 15 months passed.  Not too long ago children were taken from the mentally ill parents to give them a safer environment.  A mother who is constantly freaking out cannot be healthy for a child.

/had people with bipolar in my life for years, including my brother.  When he is on his meds he is normal, when he is not, he loses his job and cannot support his family.  Always has a good reason to stop taking his meds.

Sort of what I was thinking. A lot of people who really need psych meds just hate taking them because whatever reason. And a person with bipolar disorder having 'a panic attack' sounds to me like 'she stopped taking her meds and went full fledge psychotic and the doctors feared for the child's life due to drug interactions'.


Even if all that was true....why did they then take the baby, foster it out to British parents and then put it up for adoption in Britain...instead of notifying the woman's family and friends in Italy? or calling the Italian Consulate? This is just too weird.
 
2013-12-01 12:51:58 AM
 I would imagine the Italian government would have something to say about unilaterally seizing and changing citizenship of an Italian National.
 I would really hope they would take action to retrieve the child. Especially if it involved using whatever the Italian equivalent ofa SEAL Team is called - though that is probably far too much to hope, its what the Brits deserve.
 
2013-12-01 12:53:01 AM

LemSkroob: The unnamed Italian national was in Britain for a work trip when she suffered a panic attack, which her family believes happened because she didn't take her medications for bipolar disorder.


The real story is, why do we let people with mental disorders to have children in the first place?


Some mental disorders are hereditary. We get them from our children.
 
2013-12-01 12:56:53 AM
I get the feeling that we're not seeing the whole story on this one.  You'll note that nowhere in any linked article do we see any information from anyone other than the woman or her lawyer.  I'm always suspicious when only one side is presented.  If things are as presented, yea, it's horrible and everyone involved from the social services side needs fired, beaten and stuck in public stocks naked for a month; I'm willing to bet there's some reasoning (good or not) on their side, though.
 
2013-12-01 12:58:06 AM

sleep lack: They need to do way instain mother.


I never thought I would say this, but I miss that meme. Ahh the babby forming nostalgia...
 
2013-12-01 12:58:30 AM
Panic attack?

No no no. Panic attack is what happens when I (or someone) go to a mall and sweat through everything, throw up, scream at the BOGO people, throw up again, and cry.

Something is missing from this story.

No one would take a kid from me because I puked in a shoe store and vaguely threatened people nearby.
 
2013-12-01 01:03:02 AM

ReapTheChaos: fusillade762: [storage.canoe.ca image 650x446]

I don't see the machine that goes "PING"...

One ping only?


Well, exactly. A fellow can't be everywhere at once. I'll make it next time.
 
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