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(Fox 59)   Caught on video: two police officers hold down grandfather while he's shot in the back with a Taser by another officer... all in front of a gathering of schoolchildren   (fox59.com) divider line 137
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2013-11-29 10:20:47 AM  
"Knightstown police chief gets electrocuted to buy much-needed cruisers"

At least the new cruisers will look good in his funeral procession.
 
2013-11-29 10:22:51 AM  
Oh, subby needs a cockpunch for this one.
 
2013-11-29 10:40:59 AM  
You know how they could've made a shiat-ton of cash? Have people bid on who gets to shock the cop with a Taser.
 
2013-11-29 10:59:51 AM  
So.. a kinky cop who likes pain?

Shocking.
 
2013-11-29 11:26:54 AM  
Headline and subsequent article are.....shocking

/nice mis-direction subbs.
 
2013-11-29 11:26:54 AM  
He was shot with the Taser in a middle school gym on Wednesday, and the town clerk treasurer followed for what also became a teaching tool for young kids. A K9 officer also showed the crowd what his partner could do.


So, they're terrorists. Great. Way to show those kids who they can trust and rely on.
 
2013-11-29 11:27:49 AM  

SecretAgentWoman: Oh, subby needs a cockpunch for this one.


In before and the OMGWTFDRTFA KILL COPS HATE TEH PIGS LOLPAD
 
2013-11-29 11:29:49 AM  
So half the purpose of this was to send a message to the kids "this is what we do to you if you step out of line"?
 
2013-11-29 11:30:11 AM  
Fox 59 asked the chief what [his wife] was thinking ahead of the big jolt.  "She wants to pull the trigger," he said. "She likes to see me in pain, I guess."


Yeah, TMI there, chief.
 
2013-11-29 11:30:14 AM  

SecretAgentWoman: Oh, subby needs a cockpunch for this one.


www.hotflick.net
Wait, I got an idea...
 
GBB
2013-11-29 11:30:28 AM  
God forbid the townspeople pay any farking taxes to cover their public services.  Must be a red town/county/state.
 
2013-11-29 11:30:55 AM  
I got ampped up by reading subbies headline, but ohm further rectification, I have very little resistance to this mans capacitance for raising money by way of a highly charged demonstration of battery.

/Volts.
 
2013-11-29 11:32:15 AM  

Godscrack: So.. a kinky cop who likes pain?


Do you think his handcuffs have pink faux fur covers?
 
2013-11-29 11:32:50 AM  

GBB: God forbid the townspeople pay any farking taxes to cover their public services.  Must be a red town/county/state.


You mean "Freedom-loving, small government, free market capitalists". Palin-Americans
 
2013-11-29 11:35:13 AM  

GBB: God forbid the townspeople pay any farking taxes to cover their public services.  Must be a red town/county/state.


In a town with only 3 police officers, I imagine taxes simply alone simply can't support maintaining a fleet of cruisers like wealthy suburbs and large cities.

/Rural life is a lot different.
 
2013-11-29 11:36:29 AM  
I'm not sure whether it's smart to turn the use of weapons on people into entertainment, especially given that the audience consists of children.
 
2013-11-29 11:38:14 AM  

Target Builder: So half the purpose of this was to send a message to the kids "this is what we do to you if you step out of line"?


Pretty much man, pretty farking much. You see it is far easier to make a small child fear you then it is to get adults to fear you. Just like with tobacco products, the trick is to get them good and young.

still it sure would have been a good time getting to tazer a cop!
 
2013-11-29 11:38:38 AM  

PacManDreaming: You know how they could've made a shiat-ton of cash? Have people bid on who gets to shock the cop with a Taser.


Can they also yell "stop resisting arrest!" While the guy is still spasming on the ground? I think this would be highly relevant info.
 
2013-11-29 11:40:12 AM  

DubyaHater: GBB: God forbid the townspeople pay any farking taxes to cover their public services.  Must be a red town/county/state.

You mean "Freedom-loving, small government, free market capitalists". Palin-Americans


You mean Real Americans.
 
2013-11-29 11:40:46 AM  

Fluid: I'm not sure whether it's smart to turn the use of weapons on people into entertainment, especially given that the audience consists of children.


I do like the emphasis it puts on "eating your own dogfood" as it were. When that cop tazes someone, he knows exactly what that person is going to go through.

/me and my friends used to play "Lick the electric horse fence" long before tazers were a thing.
//It hurts.
///Then your friend laughs and says "let me try!"
////Ahhh. Youth.
 
2013-11-29 11:41:00 AM  
So paid vacations just in time for Christmas, then? And if people say mean things about them, they can claim disability and buy some extra presents.
 
2013-11-29 11:41:52 AM  
You know what would have been really cool is if he had a heart attack and died in front of all those kids.

Idiots.
 
2013-11-29 11:42:05 AM  

GBB: God forbid the townspeople pay any farking taxes to cover their public services.  Must be a red town/county/state.




Or perhaps a small town that does pay taxes, but has a budget shortfall.

/Typical blue state response. Tax people higher, government comes before all others.
 
2013-11-29 11:43:34 AM  

PacManDreaming: You know how they could've made a shiat-ton of cash? Have people bid on who gets to shock the cop with a Taser.


I imagine there would be a lot of folk who'd give up their 40oz malt liquor beverages for a month for a shot at that.

/sorry, my bad
 
2013-11-29 11:46:48 AM  
Overheard from the kids: "Hey, he pissed his pants just like me!"
 
2013-11-29 11:48:05 AM  

BMFPitt: So paid vacations just in time for Christmas, then? And if people say mean things about them, they can claim disability and buy some extra presents.


so you didnt read the article OR any of the comments?
 
2013-11-29 11:49:17 AM  

Loud_Mouth_Soup: Overheard from the kids: "Hey, he pissed his pants just like me!"


2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-11-29 11:49:57 AM  

fluffy2097: GBB: God forbid the townspeople pay any farking taxes to cover their public services.  Must be a red town/county/state.

In a town with only 3 police officers, I imagine taxes simply alone simply can't support maintaining a fleet of cruisers like wealthy suburbs and large cities.

/Rural life is a lot different.


It certainly is. The town I grew up in had one police officer, one police car, and very little crime. No tanks, no tasers, and no SWAT team. No one messed with our police officer, not because he was a bad-ass, but because he was one of us. He had to live there too.
 
2013-11-29 11:50:34 AM  
www.behindtheplayer.com

Unimpressed.
 
2013-11-29 11:51:56 AM  

SecretAgentWoman: Oh, subby needs a cockpunch for this one.


But cockfighting is illegal!
 
2013-11-29 11:52:35 AM  

SecretAgentWoman: Oh, subby needs a cockpunch for this one.


Ohhhhhhhhh wow. Subby you magnificent bastard.
 
2013-11-29 11:52:38 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Or perhaps a small town that does pay taxes, but has a budget shortfall.


Because math is hard

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: /Typical blue state response. Tax people higher, government comes before all others.


Because paying for the shiat we need is stupid. Gimme the MasterCard Mabel! I'm a-goin' to town!
 
2013-11-29 11:53:04 AM  

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: fluffy2097: GBB: God forbid the townspeople pay any farking taxes to cover their public services.  Must be a red town/county/state.

In a town with only 3 police officers, I imagine taxes simply alone simply can't support maintaining a fleet of cruisers like wealthy suburbs and large cities.

/Rural life is a lot different.

It certainly is. The town I grew up in had one police officer, one police car, and very little crime. No tanks, no tasers, and no SWAT team. No one messed with our police officer, not because he was a bad-ass, but because he was one of us. He had to live there too.


1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-11-29 11:53:33 AM  
Current fundraisers are bewildering.....
 
2013-11-29 11:53:39 AM  

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: It certainly is. The town I grew up in had one police officer, one police car, and very little crime. No tanks, no tasers, and no SWAT team. No one messed with our police officer, not because he was a bad-ass, but because he was one of us. He had to live there too.


I spend summers in rural NY. If you call 911, an air raid siren goes off to alert the volunteer fire department, and one of your neighbors shows up in a few minutes.

/I think they've got pagers too, but you always know when shiat's going down because the siren goes off.
 
2013-11-29 11:55:49 AM  
It's come to this?  When I was a boy (in Mayberry, NC) they used to hold talent shows to raise funds for the Sheriff's Office.
 
2013-11-29 11:57:41 AM  
"I have three full-time, five part-time, and nine reserves, and we all have to use the same car," said Knightstown Police Chief Danny Baker.

Judging by the picture, you and your officers could benefit from some walking.

art.ngfiles.com

fluffy2097: me and my friends used to play "Lick the electric horse fence" long before tazers were a thing.


Beavis:
When I was young, and had no sense
I took a wiz on an electric fence.
It hurt so bad. It shocked my balls.
Then I took a crap in my overalls!
 
2013-11-29 11:57:49 AM  

More_Like_A_Stain: Because math is hard


It's a town of 2100 or so people, with a median income of 40K per year.

They also have other public infrastructure to fund. Like roads, power lines, and the fire department, schools, etc. etc.

/I guess math is hard for you.
 
2013-11-29 11:59:05 AM  

Sin_City_Superhero: Beavis:
When I was young, and had no sense
I took a wiz on an electric fence.
It hurt so bad. It shocked my balls.
Then I took a crap in my overalls!


geek-news.mtv.com
/Ren and Stimpy saved me from that particular brand of pain.
 
2013-11-29 12:01:18 PM  

jmr61: You know what would have been really cool is if he had a heart attack and died in front of all those kids.

Idiots.



They were trying to get funding for a worthwhile cause and you not only want him to die, but, in front of kids?


/Wow!
//Dumbass
 
2013-11-29 12:06:53 PM  
FTA: The 63-year-old chief's wife of 38 years was in the audience during the event. Fox 59 asked the chief what she was thinking ahead of the big jolt.

"She wants to pull the trigger," he said. "She likes to see me in pain, I guess."


Don't they all, chief? Don't they all?

/also married
 
2013-11-29 12:09:20 PM  

ChipNASA: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: fluffy2097: GBB: God forbid the townspeople pay any farking taxes to cover their public services.  Must be a red town/county/state.

In a town with only 3 police officers, I imagine taxes simply alone simply can't support maintaining a fleet of cruisers like wealthy suburbs and large cities.

/Rural life is a lot different.

It certainly is. The town I grew up in had one police officer, one police car, and very little crime. No tanks, no tasers, and no SWAT team. No one messed with our police officer, not because he was a bad-ass, but because he was one of us. He had to live there too.


img.fark.net

That's about how intimidating he looked. Also, his initials were P.I.G. For reals! He had a son who was paralyzed from jumping out of a haybarn as a kid. Everyone would push him around town, and make sure his errands got taken care of. He once pulled over a couple of high school friends of mine. The girl hid a beer in her pants. He made her jump up and down, then made her pour the rest out. Then he sent them home. Different times, I guess.
 
2013-11-29 12:13:49 PM  

ChipNASA: Loud_Mouth_Soup: Overheard from the kids: "Hey, he pissed his pants just like me!"

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 403x403]



It's the coolest.
 
2013-11-29 12:14:09 PM  
Hilarious, subby.

But seriously - why the fark does some middle-of-nowhere, boondock town need a farking Hummer?
 
2013-11-29 12:14:51 PM  
From TFA: "He was shot with the Taser in a middle school gym on Wednesday, and the town clerk treasurer followed for what also became a teaching tool for young kids. A K9 officer also showed the crowd what his partner could do. "

I have a real problem with this.

They solicited "donations" after this show of force?

This is all kinds of farked up.
 
2013-11-29 12:15:09 PM  

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: fluffy2097: GBB: God forbid the townspeople pay any farking taxes to cover their public services.  Must be a red town/county/state.

In a town with only 3 police officers, I imagine taxes simply alone simply can't support maintaining a fleet of cruisers like wealthy suburbs and large cities.

/Rural life is a lot different.

It certainly is. The town I grew up in had one police officer, one police car, and very little crime. No tanks, no tasers, and no SWAT team. No one messed with our police officer, not because he was a bad-ass, but because he was one of us. He had to live there too.


Leprosy, well fark me...  so you guys were banished to the farkin boonies eh ?  sorry to here about all that. hope they let you live in a real city someday if you don't already.. had a friend that was an Arms dealer he used to visit you guys every now and then to lend a hand...
 
2013-11-29 12:15:33 PM  

Jill'sNipple: Hilarious, subby.

But seriously - why the fark does some middle-of-nowhere, boondock town need a farking Hummer?


Who doesn't want a hummer??

/ not a knock off military style vehicle.
 
2013-11-29 12:16:08 PM  

Jill'sNipple: Hilarious, subby.

But seriously - why the fark does some middle-of-nowhere, boondock town need a farking Hummer?


Because the big-city departments have all of that paramilitary stuff so WE NEED IT TOO!
 
2013-11-29 12:18:15 PM  
+1 internets to Subby for headline.
 
2013-11-29 12:21:48 PM  

Odoriferous Queef: +1 internets to Subby for headline.


I have to agree with you on that one.

+1 for all and all for +1
 
2013-11-29 12:26:05 PM  

GBB: God forbid the townspeople pay any farking taxes to cover their public services.  Must be a red town/county/state.


Really. Your mad because of donations? People will complain about anything
 
2013-11-29 12:27:04 PM  

Farty McPooPants: From TFA: "He was shot with the Taser in a middle school gym on Wednesday, and the town clerk treasurer followed for what also became a teaching tool for young kids. A K9 officer also showed the crowd what his partner could do. "

I have a real problem with this.

They solicited "donations" after this show of force?

This is all kinds of farked up.


What "show of force"? It wasn't forced upon him.
He did something that you have no concept of.
 
2013-11-29 12:32:51 PM  

jmr61: You know what would have been really cool is if he had a heart attack and died in front of all those kids.

Idiots.


pinkie.ponychan.net
 
2013-11-29 12:35:29 PM  

CruiserTwelve: "Knightstown police chief gets electrocuted to buy much-needed cruisers"

At least the new cruisers will look good in his funeral procession.


Indeed. It's not a hard concept: it's only electrocution if the person dies.

Just think "drowned" but for electric shocks.
 
2013-11-29 12:40:07 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: GBB: God forbid the townspeople pay any farking taxes to cover their public services.  Must be a red town/county/state.

Or perhaps a small town that does pay taxes, but has a budget shortfall.

/Typical blue state response. Tax people higher, government comes before all others.


yeah well that's how society works. you pay taxes for what you need. a 1 cent splost in the city would have probably taken care of it.
 
2013-11-29 12:44:20 PM  

GBB: God forbid the townspeople pay any farking taxes to cover their public services.  Must be a red town/county/state.


When I lived in Denver, I didn't like paying taxes to fund the police, mostly because they ignored actual criminals and gangs roaming around downtown and 16th street, but beat the crap out of random people for no particular reason. I was also pretty ticked that when my house got robbed, there was a speed trap with 5 squad cars less than a block away... yet it took more than 6 hours to get someone to my house, where he took a terse report and bluntly told me that it was unlikely I'd get any of my stuff back, as they weren't going to investigate at all Here in Grand County, I'm ok with paying higher taxes... because the Police and Fire departments regularly are on SAR missions, helping people, finding lost hunters, helping people get to hospitals in bad weather, and doing actual civil service.

Sometimes there's more to the argument than just "I hate taxes" or whatever derp you assign to people who don't necessarily want to fund some emergency services.
 
2013-11-29 12:44:53 PM  
Crank up the muzak, hit 'em with "the Voice of Reason", recording 2, and bring in the soma gas dispensers.

"All is well, why can't we get along..."
 
2013-11-29 12:51:00 PM  

Jill'sNipple: But seriously - why the fark does some middle-of-nowhere, boondock town need a farking Hummer?


I'm guessing it's directly related to having to deal with middle-of-nowhere, boondock type problems... which I hear the HMMWV is good for.
 
2013-11-29 12:52:02 PM  
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-11-29 01:01:49 PM  

SecretAgentWoman: Oh, subby needs a cockpunch for this one.


No, the people who make the kinds of headlines being parodied here need a cockpunch.
They love using terms like "grandfather/grandmother", as if it's relevant that their offspring reproduced.
 
2013-11-29 01:02:28 PM  
 These threads always amaze me at how many people have not even the slightest comprehension of how things work outside of their 100,000+ person cities.  I especially like the whole theme of 'omg... donations?! Stupid bootstrappy bastards. These things are best handled with TAXES!! Need stuff? More taxes!'

Ignorant people are ignorant.
 
2013-11-29 01:03:28 PM  
Re: the headline: The problem is that it would not be outside the realm of everyday possibility for such a thing to happen in the US...
 
2013-11-29 01:05:08 PM  

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: That's about how intimidating he looked. Also, his initials were P.I.G.


The campus police officer where I went to university was name Sgt. Bacon.  No word of a lie.
 
2013-11-29 01:07:36 PM  

GBB: God forbid the townspeople pay any farking taxes to cover their public services.  Must be a red town/county/state.


I think the issue is this is such a significant sum for the town to pay in one setting, taxes would need a temporary but large hike and would take longer to occur, not only to pass but then to collect and distribute and spend, whereas this places money direct into the coffers of the department while raising awareness.
 
2013-11-29 01:10:51 PM  
A town that size needs 17 cops? fire fire 14 of them and do the taxpayers a favor instead of shocking yourself for even more cash.
 
2013-11-29 01:13:53 PM  

Xenomech: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: That's about how intimidating he looked. Also, his initials were P.I.G.

The campus police officer where I went to university was name Sgt. Bacon.  No word of a lie.


SHUT

the front door.

So, the OB/GYN who delivered my son was none other than Dr. Raper.

I shart you nart.
 
2013-11-29 01:16:40 PM  
I'd pay to see a cop get tased.
 
2013-11-29 01:18:27 PM  

kerrigand: Odoriferous Queef: +1 internets to Subby for headline.

I have to agree with you on that one.

+1 for all and all for +1


Adding my +1 also..
 
2013-11-29 01:20:13 PM  
jesus, I am never gonna be as fat as the blueboy on his left
 
2013-11-29 01:20:14 PM  
The Texas company that promised Baker $25,000 to skip the jolt and actually sent the check was none other than Glen Beck's The Blaze.
 
2013-11-29 01:22:32 PM  

Xenomech: Re: the headline: The problem is that it would not be outside the realm of everyday possibility for such a thing to happen in the US...


thatsthejoke.jpg
 
2013-11-29 01:25:31 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: "I have three full-time, five part-time, and nine reserves, and we all have to use the same car," said Knightstown Police Chief Danny Baker.

Judging by the picture, you and your officers could benefit from some walking.



fluffy2097: me and my friends used to play "Lick the electric horse fence" long before tazers were a thing.

Beavis:
When I was young, and had no sense
I took a wiz on an electric fence.
It hurt so bad. It shocked my balls.
Then I took a crap in my overalls!


settle down Beavis


/read it in his voice, nasal snorts and all
 
2013-11-29 01:32:12 PM  

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: ChipNASA: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: fluffy2097: GBB:   Must be a red town/county/state.

/Rural life is a lot different.

It certainly is. The town I grew up in had one police officer.  He had to live there too.

[img.fark.net image 252x320]

Different times, I guess.


CSB: I grew up in the 50s. My grandpa told me to drive him home when I was 10yo, barely able to push the pedals. He came over to get me for some chores he wanted me to do. When we walked to his 1949 F-1 Ford pickup, with a 3-speed floor shifter, he got in the passenger side and told me to get in. He explained the basics, and I hopped that puppy half a block to the stop sign. The local grocery was on this corner and a cop was sitting in the parking lot. Gramps waved at him and said, "Take it a little easier on the clutch". I got it going, but Gramps wouldn't let me shift, so we ground it out in first gear for three blocks. The cop followed us the whole way. I pulled into the the driveway and the cop stopped behind the truck. I had visions of (as 10yos will) of going to jail for the REST OF MY LIFE. Gramps got out and was talking to the cop when I walked up. The cop told me to keep practicing; that wasn't bad for my first time and it'll get easier when I get a little height. He then drove off and we got back to work :End CSB

/Different times, indeed
//The truck was as old as me.
///uncle has it, with a flathead V-8 in it, now.
 
2013-11-29 01:40:29 PM  

GBB: God forbid the townspeople pay any farking taxes to cover their public services.  Must be a red town/county/state.


Yeah, SCREW public officials who do their best to hold down costs for the people they serve. More taxes are always the answer, regardless of the question.

/ Nice job of turning this into a poltical thread, Sparkie
 
2013-11-29 01:42:05 PM  

More_Like_A_Stain: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Or perhaps a small town that does pay taxes, but has a budget shortfall.

Because math is hard

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: /Typical blue state response. Tax people higher, government comes before all others.

Because paying for the shiat we need is stupid. Gimme the MasterCard Mabel! I'm a-goin' to town!


They are paying for it, just not in a way you approve of. Deal with it.
 
2013-11-29 01:43:32 PM  

Target Builder: So half the purpose of this was to send a message to the kids "this is what we do to you if you step out of line"?


Fear will keep them in line. Fear of Tom Swift's Electric Rifle.
 
2013-11-29 01:44:19 PM  
Fiendish Subby.  Evil Subby.

Well played.  I'll jump the +1 Intertubes bandwagon as well.
 
2013-11-29 01:46:21 PM  

Mikeyworld: /Different times, indeed


I bet you can drive hell out of a manual by now, too! :)

/lost art
/learned how driving a tractor
 
2013-11-29 01:50:05 PM  

fluffy2097: GBB: God forbid the townspeople pay any farking taxes to cover their public services.  Must be a red town/county/state.

In a town with only 3 police officers, I imagine taxes simply alone simply can't support maintaining a fleet of cruisers like wealthy suburbs and large cities.

/Rural life is a lot different.


While this is a nicely reasoned post, it's wasted. The person you're replying to believes that the GOP is the same as the Taliban. You're not going to get through his derp with an intellectual argument.
 
2013-11-29 01:56:47 PM  

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Mikeyworld: /Different times, indeed

I bet you can drive hell out of a manual by now, too! :)

/lost art
/learned how driving a tractor


Oh yeah. being an ex-racer, manuals were the beast of choice. They provided more control than them slush-boxes. I believe the problem with traffic today is the lack of skills needed to drive. Mandatory stick shifters would keep the incompetents off the public streets.
 
2013-11-29 02:04:50 PM  

Mikeyworld: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Mikeyworld: /Different times, indeed

I bet you can drive hell out of a manual by now, too! :)

/lost art
/learned how driving a tractor

Oh yeah. being an ex-racer, manuals were the beast of choice. They provided more control than them slush-boxes. I believe the problem with traffic today is the lack of skills needed to drive. Mandatory stick shifters would keep the incompetents off the public streets.


They were different times back then. Sometimes, I forget that times now, aren't the same as they were. It doesn't mean we have to let go of them, we just have to adjust to them. Also doesn't mean, that it's different either. If you're an asshole now, probably means you were then too.(that's not being directed at you, I'm just saying it).

I forget this as much as anyone, yet the fact remains. Asshole now, would've still been an asshole then. People aren't different, times are.
 
2013-11-29 02:09:54 PM  
I knew the headline sounded to good to be true.
 
2013-11-29 02:21:17 PM  
Really dumb -Tasers are not toys.
 
2013-11-29 02:26:02 PM  

Mikeyworld: Mandatory stick shifters would keep the incompetents off the public streets.


Truer words were never spoken. I never understood why high schools dropped driver education. It's a life skill, like learning how to balance a checkbook, or parenting skills. Practical things like these are what they should be teaching our children.
 
2013-11-29 02:35:24 PM  

edmo: Tasers are not toys.


Then why did I get some for my 3 and 4 year-old nephews for Christmas, smart-guy?
 
2013-11-29 02:37:57 PM  

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: like learning how to balance a checkbook

...

A wut?
 
2013-11-29 02:38:02 PM  

fluffy2097: GBB: God forbid the townspeople pay any farking taxes to cover their public services.  Must be a red town/county/state.

In a town with only 3 police officers, I imagine taxes simply alone simply can't support maintaining a fleet of cruisers like wealthy suburbs and large cities.

/Rural life is a lot different.


I may be wrong, but in a town with 3 cops, the size of the fleet should be relatively easy to cope with without overburdening the taxpayer.
 
2013-11-29 02:42:50 PM  

Click Click D'oh: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: like learning how to balance a checkbook...

A wut?


Sorry. How to not lose your ass to a credit card company. Got nostalgic there for a minute. :)
 
2013-11-29 02:45:42 PM  

Flab: fluffy2097: GBB: God forbid the townspeople pay any farking taxes to cover their public services.  Must be a red town/county/state.

In a town with only 3 police officers, I imagine taxes simply alone simply can't support maintaining a fleet of cruisers like wealthy suburbs and large cities.

/Rural life is a lot different.

I may be wrong, but in a town with 3 cops, the size of the fleet should be relatively easy to cope with without overburdening the taxpayer.


No, you're right. That's why you don't understand what your saying.

/sorry don't have the want to explain it to you.
//slashies...just because
 
2013-11-29 03:02:08 PM  

PacManDreaming: You know how they could've made a shiat-ton of cash? Have people bid on who gets to shock the cop with a Taser.


You could pay off the deficit with the money raised from that kind of auction.
 
2013-11-29 03:05:47 PM  

Flab: I may be wrong, but in a town with 3 cops, the size of the fleet should be relatively easy to cope with without overburdening the taxpayer.


Rural often equals poor. Like... destitute poor. We tend to think of poor people as being homeless bums in the city, but if you want to see some real, soul-crushing poverty, hit the sticks. People aren't living out there in dilapidated trailers made of arsenic for fun. A lot of rural areas can't even afford one officer and instead rely on staties to provide local coverage.
 
2013-11-29 03:09:22 PM  

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Mikeyworld: Mandatory stick shifters would keep the incompetents off the public streets.

 Practical things like these are what they should be teaching our children.


Yeah, exactly. There should be a class in junior high (6-9 grade) in practical matters. Call it life class. Teach the ideal, how you should be dealin', how you interview, traffic laws, birds and bees, how to budget, how to treat a cold, the basics of running a business, and a thousand other things that parents are dropping the ball on. At least the kids would know what they should be doing, and what their parents ain't tellin' 'em. Beyond that, they also know they know what they shouldn't be doing...and why.
 
2013-11-29 03:14:16 PM  

kerrigand: Flab: fluffy2097: GBB: God forbid the townspeople pay any farking taxes to cover their public services.  Must be a red town/county/state.

In a town with only 3 police officers, I imagine taxes simply alone simply can't support maintaining a fleet of cruisers like wealthy suburbs and large cities.

/Rural life is a lot different.

I may be wrong, but in a town with 3 cops, the size of the fleet should be relatively easy to cope with without overburdening the taxpayer.

No, you're right. That's why you don't understand what your saying.

/sorry don't have the want to explain it to you.
//slashies...just because


maybe instead of new hummers they buy a couple of old jeep cherokee 4wds? or some horses. :)
 
GBB
2013-11-29 03:16:33 PM  

Hobodeluxe: kerrigand: Flab: fluffy2097: GBB: God forbid the townspeople pay any farking taxes to cover their public services.  Must be a red town/county/state.

In a town with only 3 police officers, I imagine taxes simply alone simply can't support maintaining a fleet of cruisers like wealthy suburbs and large cities.

/Rural life is a lot different.

I may be wrong, but in a town with 3 cops, the size of the fleet should be relatively easy to cope with without overburdening the taxpayer.

No, you're right. That's why you don't understand what your saying.

/sorry don't have the want to explain it to you.
//slashies...just because

maybe instead of new hummers they buy a couple of old jeep cherokee 4wds? or some horses. :)


www.actionmoviefreak.com
Or, just put a light bar and some decals on your POV.
 
2013-11-29 03:20:03 PM  

Farty McPooPants: From TFA: "He was shot with the Taser in a middle school gym on Wednesday, and the town clerk treasurer followed for what also became a teaching tool for young kids. A K9 officer also showed the crowd what his partner could do. "

I have a real problem with this.

They solicited "donations" after this show of force?

This is all kinds of farked up.


This is what they show kids nowadays. 'Behave or we do X.' I would  hate to be in elementary school right now, I was scared enough of cops when I was a little kid.
 
2013-11-29 03:21:21 PM  

Carousel Beast: fluffy2097: GBB: God forbid the townspeople pay any farking taxes to cover their public services.  Must be a red town/county/state.

In a town with only 3 police officers, I imagine taxes simply alone simply can't support maintaining a fleet of cruisers like wealthy suburbs and large cities.

/Rural life is a lot different.

While this is a nicely reasoned post, it's wasted. The person you're replying to believes that the GOP is the same as the Taliban. You're not going to get through his derp with an intellectual argument.


So you think a rural town with 3 police officers should have a privately funded fleet of cruisers?
 
2013-11-29 03:27:52 PM  
Got me.

/Liter +1 subby.:b
 
2013-11-29 03:28:44 PM  

PsiChick: I would hate to be in elementary school right now,


Me too. Mostly because at 39 years old, I'd stick out like Billy Madison.
 
2013-11-29 03:32:08 PM  

PsiChick: Farty McPooPants: From TFA: "He was shot with the Taser in a middle school gym on Wednesday, and the town clerk treasurer followed for what also became a teaching tool for young kids. A K9 officer also showed the crowd what his partner could do. "

I have a real problem with this.

They solicited "donations" after this show of force?

This is all kinds of farked up.

This is what they show kids nowadays. 'Behave or we do X.' I would  hate to be in elementary school right now, I was scared enough of cops when I was a little kid.


How about the situation of where they show you "if you're a fark up and you fark up, we'll do this to you?" I wouldn't want to be elementary school right now, because of all of the snowflakes that are being taught that cops are beneath them and they don't have to listen to anyone but mommy.
 
2013-11-29 03:32:40 PM  

Carousel Beast: fluffy2097: GBB: God forbid the townspeople pay any farking taxes to cover their public services.  Must be a red town/county/state.

In a town with only 3 police officers, I imagine taxes simply alone simply can't support maintaining a fleet of cruisers like wealthy suburbs and large cities.

/Rural life is a lot different.

While this is a nicely reasoned post, it's wasted. The person you're replying to believes that the GOP is the same as the Taliban. You're not going to get through his derp with an intellectual argument.


They aren't the Taliban but they certainly are trying.
 
2013-11-29 03:43:16 PM  

kerrigand: PsiChick: Farty McPooPants: From TFA: "He was shot with the Taser in a middle school gym on Wednesday, and the town clerk treasurer followed for what also became a teaching tool for young kids. A K9 officer also showed the crowd what his partner could do. "

I have a real problem with this.

They solicited "donations" after this show of force?

This is all kinds of farked up.

This is what they show kids nowadays. 'Behave or we do X.' I would  hate to be in elementary school right now, I was scared enough of cops when I was a little kid.

How about the situation of where they show you "if you're a fark up and you fark up, we'll do this to you?" I wouldn't want to be elementary school right now, because of all of the snowflakes that are being taught that cops are beneath them and they don't have to listen to anyone but mommy.


Because thinking that showing a bunch of elementary-school kids someone being tazered is a bad idea is exactly the same as thinking cops are beneath you and you don't have to listen to anyone but mommy. Not like kids can get scared easily or get the wrong idea or anything, and  certainly not like we'd want to teach them to follow the rules because they  want to, not because someone's going to beat the shiat out of them if they don't, oh no...
 
2013-11-29 03:53:13 PM  

PsiChick: kerrigand: PsiChick: Farty McPooPants: From TFA: "He was shot with the Taser in a middle school gym on Wednesday, and the town clerk treasurer followed for what also became a teaching tool for young kids. A K9 officer also showed the crowd what his partner could do. "

I have a real problem with this.

They solicited "donations" after this show of force?

This is all kinds of farked up.

This is what they show kids nowadays. 'Behave or we do X.' I would  hate to be in elementary school right now, I was scared enough of cops when I was a little kid.

How about the situation of where they show you "if you're a fark up and you fark up, we'll do this to you?" I wouldn't want to be elementary school right now, because of all of the snowflakes that are being taught that cops are beneath them and they don't have to listen to anyone but mommy.

Because thinking that showing a bunch of elementary-school kids someone being tazered is a bad idea is exactly the same as thinking cops are beneath you and you don't have to listen to anyone but mommy. Not like kids can get scared easily or get the wrong idea or anything, and  certainly not like we'd want to teach them to follow the rules because they  want to, not because someone's going to beat the shiat out of them if they don't, oh no..


Your right, we need to rely on elementary school kids on having the knowledge to do "right" and not worry about what mommy says. It seems to me "most" of us. Note how I quote.."most", most of us, understood that if we screwed up, where we would end up and what would happen to us. Nowadays, it's not about where we might end up or what might happen to us, it's, what will mommy say and where's daddy? He'll take care of this and you're gonna be in big trouble for arresting me for robbing that store.

Dramatic much? yeah, sometimes I am, but sometimes that's what it takes to get through to people.
 
2013-11-29 03:54:42 PM  
The backlash of this is that these kids will leave with TWO impressions, and my that I mean some will have one and some will get the other:

A) Do what the law enforcement officers say always like good little citizens or they will use a taser on you and it hurts

or

B) Don't give a crap about the pigs because they will only tase you which really only hurts a bit for a second and they're stupid thugs

that's pretty much what they taught those kids....
O that and, "you can get tased for charity / cops need hummers"

/source: knows lots of stupid kids
 
2013-11-29 04:03:37 PM  

kerrigand: Your right, we need to rely on elementary school kids on having the knowledge to do "right" and not worry about what mommy says. It seems to me "most" of us. Note how I quote.."most", most of us, understood that if we screwed up, where we would end up and what would happen to us. Nowadays, it's not about where we might end up or what might happen to us, it's, what will mommy say and where's daddy? He'll take care of this and you're gonna be in big trouble for arresting me for robbing that store.

Dramatic much? yeah, sometimes I am, but sometimes that's what it takes to get through to people.


...Please never breed. Dear god, I don't think I'd trust you babysitting, let alone responsible for a kid.

Seriously, kids  want to be good. That is one of their most basic functions. And you can get them to be good  really farking easily, without scaring them. I've never needed to scare my sister, and I was her primary caretaker for a year. The kid is one of the politest, most well-behaved kids in her group, as noted by  other adults, regularly. Even dealing with pain-in-the-ass kids, they want to be good and they will be if you give them opportunities. Scaring the shiat out of them is never required.
 
2013-11-29 04:03:53 PM  

PacManDreaming: You know how they could've made a shiat-ton of cash? Have people bid on who gets to shock the cop with a Taser.


This!
 
2013-11-29 04:11:07 PM  

PsiChick: kerrigand: Your right, we need to rely on elementary school kids on having the knowledge to do "right" and not worry about what mommy says. It seems to me "most" of us. Note how I quote.."most", most of us, understood that if we screwed up, where we would end up and what would happen to us. Nowadays, it's not about where we might end up or what might happen to us, it's, what will mommy say and where's daddy? He'll take care of this and you're gonna be in big trouble for arresting me for robbing that store.

Dramatic much? yeah, sometimes I am, but sometimes that's what it takes to get through to people.

...Please never breed. Dear god, I don't think I'd trust you babysitting, let alone responsible for a kid.

Seriously, kids  want to be good. That is one of their most basic functions. And you can get them to be good  really farking easily, without scaring them. I've never needed to scare my sister, and I was her primary caretaker for a year. The kid is one of the politest, most well-behaved kids in her group, as noted by  other adults, regularly. Even dealing with pain-in-the-ass kids, they want to be good and they will be if you give them opportunities. Scaring the shiat out of them is never required.


Trust me, I'd never want you to be responsible for one either.

I never said it was needed to scare kids. But you do you have to teach them respect and responsibility. They do need to understand life, and shiat like this is real life. Trying to keep them from dealing with real life is one of the reasons why we're having this discussion.
Shiat happens in life and shiat like this happens in life. You can't shield them from everything that happens. If you try to, you're only building upon the snowflake issue. YOU can't shield them from everything, so the sooner you teach them, the sooner they learn. This BS of hiding them from real life, is a snowflake issue. You can try to argue this until hell freezes over. You know it's true.
 
2013-11-29 04:22:33 PM  

kerrigand: PsiChick: kerrigand: Your right, we need to rely on elementary school kids on having the knowledge to do "right" and not worry about what mommy says. It seems to me "most" of us. Note how I quote.."most", most of us, understood that if we screwed up, where we would end up and what would happen to us. Nowadays, it's not about where we might end up or what might happen to us, it's, what will mommy say and where's daddy? He'll take care of this and you're gonna be in big trouble for arresting me for robbing that store.

Dramatic much? yeah, sometimes I am, but sometimes that's what it takes to get through to people.

...Please never breed. Dear god, I don't think I'd trust you babysitting, let alone responsible for a kid.

Seriously, kids  want to be good. That is one of their most basic functions. And you can get them to be good  really farking easily, without scaring them. I've never needed to scare my sister, and I was her primary caretaker for a year. The kid is one of the politest, most well-behaved kids in her group, as noted by  other adults, regularly. Even dealing with pain-in-the-ass kids, they want to be good and they will be if you give them opportunities. Scaring the shiat out of them is never required.

Trust me, I'd never want you to be responsible for one either.

I never said it was needed to scare kids. But you do you have to teach them respect and responsibility. They do need to understand life, and shiat like this is real life. Trying to keep them from dealing with real life is one of the reasons why we're having this discussion.
Shiat happens in life and shiat like this happens in life. You can't shield them from everything that happens. If you try to, you're only building upon the snowflake issue. YOU can't shield them from everything, so the sooner you teach them, the sooner they learn. This BS of hiding them from real life, is a snowflake issue. You can try to argue this until hell freezes over. You know it's true.


My method has actually produced a healthy, happy, productive child. Your method has produced...well, apparently you, who thinks that 'you know it's true' is a valid argument.
 
2013-11-29 04:23:46 PM  
Subby,

gallery.zzq.org

/deserves Misleading Headline of the Year, you magnificent bastard
 
2013-11-29 04:33:45 PM  

PsiChick: kerrigand: PsiChick: kerrigand: Your right, we need to rely on elementary school kids on having the knowledge to do "right" and not worry about what mommy says. It seems to me "most" of us. Note how I quote.."most", most of us, understood that if we screwed up, where we would end up and what would happen to us. Nowadays, it's not about where we might end up or what might happen to us, it's, what will mommy say and where's daddy? He'll take care of this and you're gonna be in big trouble for arresting me for robbing that store.

Dramatic much? yeah, sometimes I am, but sometimes that's what it takes to get through to people.

...Please never breed. Dear god, I don't think I'd trust you babysitting, let alone responsible for a kid.

Seriously, kids  want to be good. That is one of their most basic functions. And you can get them to be good  really farking easily, without scaring them. I've never needed to scare my sister, and I was her primary caretaker for a year. The kid is one of the politest, most well-behaved kids in her group, as noted by  other adults, regularly. Even dealing with pain-in-the-ass kids, they want to be good and they will be if you give them opportunities. Scaring the shiat out of them is never required.

Trust me, I'd never want you to be responsible for one either.

I never said it was needed to scare kids. But you do you have to teach them respect and responsibility. They do need to understand life, and shiat like this is real life. Trying to keep them from dealing with real life is one of the reasons why we're having this discussion.
Shiat happens in life and shiat like this happens in life. You can't shield them from everything that happens. If you try to, you're only building upon the snowflake issue. YOU can't shield them from everything, so the sooner you teach them, the sooner they learn. This BS of hiding them from real life, is a snowflake issue. You can try to argue this until hell freezes over. You know it's true.

My method has actu ...


Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to argue with you about kids being good. They're all good. That's what they know. They don't know good from bad. That's why you have to teach them. You're getting bent out of shape because you think I'm saying all kids are bad. That's not the case in any way, shape or form. But you do have to teach them, and you can't shield them from life. I'm glad that in your caretaking of 1 year that you were able to help shape a young child into a productive person. But that's not really relevant here now is it? Are you going to be one of those mommies that demand her child gets a participation trophy? If so, then bad on you. If not, then congrats, you might actually have a clue as to how to raise children.
 
2013-11-29 04:44:42 PM  

kerrigand: Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to argue with you about kids being good. They're all good. That's what they know. They don't know good from bad. That's why you have to teach them. You're getting bent out of shape because you think I'm saying all kids are bad. That's not the case in any way, shape or form. But you do have to teach them, and you can't shield them from life. I'm glad that in your caretaking of 1 year that you were able to help shape a young child into a productive person. But that's not really relevant here now is it? Are you going to be one of those mommies that demand her child gets a participation trophy? If so, then bad on you. If not, then congrats, you might actually have a clue as to how to raise children.


I'm 'bent out of shape' because you think that showing kids a man being held down and tazed is a  good idea. That's like saying that 2+2=5--it doesn't mean you're right, it means you're an idiot who doesn't know the most basic thing they're talking about. Having 'feelings in your gut' is not a substitute for actually knowing what the hell you're doing.
 
2013-11-29 04:47:25 PM  

PsiChick: kerrigand: Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to argue with you about kids being good. They're all good. That's what they know. They don't know good from bad. That's why you have to teach them. You're getting bent out of shape because you think I'm saying all kids are bad. That's not the case in any way, shape or form. But you do have to teach them, and you can't shield them from life. I'm glad that in your caretaking of 1 year that you were able to help shape a young child into a productive person. But that's not really relevant here now is it? Are you going to be one of those mommies that demand her child gets a participation trophy? If so, then bad on you. If not, then congrats, you might actually have a clue as to how to raise children.

I'm 'bent out of shape' because you think that showing kids a man being held down and tazed is a  good idea. That's like saying that 2+2=5--it doesn't mean you're right, it means you're an idiot who doesn't know the most basic thing they're talking about. Having 'feelings in your gut' is not a substitute for actually knowing what the hell you're doing.


4 kids, 7 grandchildren and helped out with numerous others. Until you get there, don't even talk to me about that. You don't have the qualification. When you do, you just let me know. Then and only then, will you be able to hold a qualified conversation.
 
2013-11-29 04:52:29 PM  

PsiChick: kerrigand: Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to argue with you about kids being good. They're all good. That's what they know. They don't know good from bad. That's why you have to teach them. You're getting bent out of shape because you think I'm saying all kids are bad. That's not the case in any way, shape or form. But you do have to teach them, and you can't shield them from life. I'm glad that in your caretaking of 1 year that you were able to help shape a young child into a productive person. But that's not really relevant here now is it? Are you going to be one of those mommies that demand her child gets a participation trophy? If so, then bad on you. If not, then congrats, you might actually have a clue as to how to raise children.

I'm 'bent out of shape' because you think that showing kids a man being held down and tazed is a  good idea. That's like saying that 2+2=5--it doesn't mean you're right, it means you're an idiot who doesn't know the most basic thing they're talking about. Having 'feelings in your gut' is not a substitute for actually knowing what the hell you're doing.


I'll go ya one more on this one. The only thing a real parent has to go by it a "gut" feeling. That's the only thing. You'll realize that when you become a parent. It's not a substitute for any, it's the only thing.
 
2013-11-29 04:59:43 PM  

kerrigand: PsiChick: kerrigand: Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to argue with you about kids being good. They're all good. That's what they know. They don't know good from bad. That's why you have to teach them. You're getting bent out of shape because you think I'm saying all kids are bad. That's not the case in any way, shape or form. But you do have to teach them, and you can't shield them from life. I'm glad that in your caretaking of 1 year that you were able to help shape a young child into a productive person. But that's not really relevant here now is it? Are you going to be one of those mommies that demand her child gets a participation trophy? If so, then bad on you. If not, then congrats, you might actually have a clue as to how to raise children.

I'm 'bent out of shape' because you think that showing kids a man being held down and tazed is a  good idea. That's like saying that 2+2=5--it doesn't mean you're right, it means you're an idiot who doesn't know the most basic thing they're talking about. Having 'feelings in your gut' is not a substitute for actually knowing what the hell you're doing.

4 kids, 7 grandchildren and helped out with numerous others. Until you get there, don't even talk to me about that. You don't have the qualification. When you do, you just let me know. Then and only then, will you be able to hold a qualified conversation.


Respond to the bolded part. Explain to me, logically, what you think that bolded part is going to do.
 
2013-11-29 05:01:15 PM  

kerrigand: PsiChick: kerrigand: Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to argue with you about kids being good. They're all good. That's what they know. They don't know good from bad. That's why you have to teach them. You're getting bent out of shape because you think I'm saying all kids are bad. That's not the case in any way, shape or form. But you do have to teach them, and you can't shield them from life. I'm glad that in your caretaking of 1 year that you were able to help shape a young child into a productive person. But that's not really relevant here now is it? Are you going to be one of those mommies that demand her child gets a participation trophy? If so, then bad on you. If not, then congrats, you might actually have a clue as to how to raise children.

I'm 'bent out of shape' because you think that showing kids a man being held down and tazed is a  good idea. That's like saying that 2+2=5--it doesn't mean you're right, it means you're an idiot who doesn't know the most basic thing they're talking about. Having 'feelings in your gut' is not a substitute for actually knowing what the hell you're doing.

I'll go ya one more on this one. The only thing a real parent has to go by it a "gut" feeling. That's the only thing. You'll realize that when you become a parent. It's not a substitute for any, it's the only thing.


Wait.... what?
 
2013-11-29 05:04:07 PM  

PsiChick: Seriously, kids want to be good. That is one of their most basic functions. And you can get them to be good really farking easily,



I would have eaten you alive. No offense, but it's pretty naive to believe that your one approach works for everyone, or even anyone else besides your one family example.

Seriously, I was a hellion. I would have taken advantage of your naivety badly.
 
2013-11-29 05:08:24 PM  

PsiChick: kerrigand: PsiChick: kerrigand: Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to argue with you about kids being good. They're all good. That's what they know. They don't know good from bad. That's why you have to teach them. You're getting bent out of shape because you think I'm saying all kids are bad. That's not the case in any way, shape or form. But you do have to teach them, and you can't shield them from life. I'm glad that in your caretaking of 1 year that you were able to help shape a young child into a productive person. But that's not really relevant here now is it? Are you going to be one of those mommies that demand her child gets a participation trophy? If so, then bad on you. If not, then congrats, you might actually have a clue as to how to raise children.

I'm 'bent out of shape' because you think that showing kids a man being held down and tazed is a  good idea. That's like saying that 2+2=5--it doesn't mean you're right, it means you're an idiot who doesn't know the most basic thing they're talking about. Having 'feelings in your gut' is not a substitute for actually knowing what the hell you're doing.

4 kids, 7 grandchildren and helped out with numerous others. Until you get there, don't even talk to me about that. You don't have the qualification. When you do, you just let me know. Then and only then, will you be able to hold a qualified conversation.

Respond to the bolded part. Explain to me, logically, what you think that bolded part is going to do.



I don't know, what is it supposed to show them? Maybe that, police aren't the bad people that you make them out to be? Maybe that, not only are they police officers, but they're also people? Maybe, that they're your neighbors and they're up for the people just as much as you? That they're here for you as much as they would like for you to be for them? That they're willing to do for you as much as themselves? In Briarwood California, I doubt any of this would even register to you. But in Smallville, US, which is where most people actually live. It means a lot. Not only to the people, but to the kids.  Enlighten us.  What is it supposed to show them?
 
2013-11-29 05:15:25 PM  

FarkinHostile: PsiChick: Seriously, kids want to be good. That is one of their most basic functions. And you can get them to be good really farking easily,


I would have eaten you alive. No offense, but it's pretty naive to believe that your one approach works for everyone, or even anyone else besides your one family example.

Seriously, I was a hellion. I would have taken advantage of your naivety badly.


So was my brother. My mom used exactly the same bag of tricks, and he turned out fine.

/Admittedly, he ended up in his room a lot more than the rest of us, but.
//Also, channeling pyromania turned out to involve creativity.

kerrigand: PsiChick: kerrigand: PsiChick: kerrigand: Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to argue with you about kids being good. They're all good. That's what they know. They don't know good from bad. That's why you have to teach them. You're getting bent out of shape because you think I'm saying all kids are bad. That's not the case in any way, shape or form. But you do have to teach them, and you can't shield them from life. I'm glad that in your caretaking of 1 year that you were able to help shape a young child into a productive person. But that's not really relevant here now is it? Are you going to be one of those mommies that demand her child gets a participation trophy? If so, then bad on you. If not, then congrats, you might actually have a clue as to how to raise children.

I'm 'bent out of shape' because you think that showing kids a man being held down and tazed is a  good idea. That's like saying that 2+2=5--it doesn't mean you're right, it means you're an idiot who doesn't know the most basic thing they're talking about. Having 'feelings in your gut' is not a substitute for actually knowing what the hell you're doing.

4 kids, 7 grandchildren and helped out with numerous others. Until you get there, don't even talk to me about that. You don't have the qualification. When you do, you just let me know. Then and only then, will you be able to hold a qualified conversation.

Respond to the bolded part. Explain to me, logically, what you think that bolded part is going to do.


I don't know, what is it supposed to show them? Maybe that, police aren't the bad people that you make them out to be? Maybe that, not only are they police officers, but they're also people? Maybe, that they're your neighbors and they're up for the people just as much as you? That they're here for you as much as they would like for you to be for them? That they're willing to do for you as much as themselves? In Briarwood California, I doubt any of this would even register to you. But in Smallvil ...


A) They're seeing a guy get zapped with a taser. If you think the 'charity' part registers, you are highly overestimating the intelligence of, say, your average second-grader.

B) ...I can't tell if you missed the fact that 'Briarwood, California' isn't a real city, or if that Smallville comment just made it pretty epic.
 
2013-11-29 05:21:41 PM  

PsiChick: FarkinHostile: PsiChick: Seriously, kids want to be good. That is one of their most basic functions. And you can get them to be good really farking easily,


I would have eaten you alive. No offense, but it's pretty naive to believe that your one approach works for everyone, or even anyone else besides your one family example.

Seriously, I was a hellion. I would have taken advantage of your naivety badly.

So was my brother. My mom used exactly the same bag of tricks, and he turned out fine.

/Admittedly, he ended up in his room a lot more than the rest of us, but.
//Also, channeling pyromania turned out to involve creativity.

kerrigand: PsiChick: kerrigand: PsiChick: kerrigand: Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to argue with you about kids being good. They're all good. That's what they know. They don't know good from bad. That's why you have to teach them. You're getting bent out of shape because you think I'm saying all kids are bad. That's not the case in any way, shape or form. But you do have to teach them, and you can't shield them from life. I'm glad that in your caretaking of 1 year that you were able to help shape a young child into a productive person. But that's not really relevant here now is it? Are you going to be one of those mommies that demand her child gets a participation trophy? If so, then bad on you. If not, then congrats, you might actually have a clue as to how to raise children.

I'm 'bent out of shape' because you think that showing kids a man being held down and tazed is a  good idea. That's like saying that 2+2=5--it doesn't mean you're right, it means you're an idiot who doesn't know the most basic thing they're talking about. Having 'feelings in your gut' is not a substitute for actually knowing what the hell you're doing.

4 kids, 7 grandchildren and helped out with numerous others. Until you get there, don't even talk to me about that. You don't have the qualification. When you do, you just let me know. Then and only then, will you ...



Look I realize you're trying to deflect your ignorance upon others. I don't really hold that against you. But, until you raise your own kids, you really don't need to be trying to tell others how to raise theirs. There is no set in stone way raise each child. I know you think there is, but there isn't. Like I said earlier, when you get to where I am, and you haven't killed anyone of them or yourself. Then let me know. Then you can have a qualified chat with the people that have.
 
2013-11-29 05:45:44 PM  

kerrigand: Look I realize you're trying to deflect your ignorance upon others.


Funny. I've provided the (entirely logical) assertion that seeing someone tazed will scare kids. You haven't provided a single reason why it wouldn't, and only brought up your credentials when you wanted to avoid answering me. Which of us is deflecting, again?
 
2013-11-29 05:59:00 PM  

PsiChick: kerrigand: Look I realize you're trying to deflect your ignorance upon others.

Funny. I've provided the (entirely logical) assertion that seeing someone tazed will scare kids. You haven't provided a single reason why it wouldn't, and only brought up your credentials when you wanted to avoid answering me. Which of us is deflecting, again?



What is it supposed to show them? Not to get into a situation that you need to be tazed? Was it fun for the kids? I would ask you to ask them. I would be willing to bet that most weren't scared as much as they had fun and enjoyed what they were seeing. Something that they wouldn't want to happen to them. If you asked them if it scared them, I'd say most of them would say that it didn't. But, I would be willing to bet if you asked them if they had respect for it afterwards, I'd bet most of them would say that they did. Now I know you're just going to try to come up with something else to degrade what this guy did for the community, so go ahead. Get it off your chest and let's see what your next issue or problem is. I know, it might've scared a child or two. You never been scared? According to you, you turned out just fine.

Now, let's get to the question that I asked you and you deflected from answering? What was it supposed to have shown them?

M
 
2013-11-29 06:07:44 PM  

kerrigand: PsiChick: kerrigand: Look I realize you're trying to deflect your ignorance upon others.

Funny. I've provided the (entirely logical) assertion that seeing someone tazed will scare kids. You haven't provided a single reason why it wouldn't, and only brought up your credentials when you wanted to avoid answering me. Which of us is deflecting, again?


What is it supposed to show them? Not to get into a situation that you need to be tazed? Was it fun for the kids? I would ask you to ask them. I would be willing to bet that most weren't scared as much as they had fun and enjoyed what they were seeing. Something that they wouldn't want to happen to them. If you asked them if it scared them, I'd say most of them would say that it didn't. But, I would be willing to bet if you asked them if they had respect for it afterwards, I'd bet most of them would say that they did. Now I know you're just going to try to come up with something else to degrade what this guy did for the community, so go ahead. Get it off your chest and let's see what your next issue or problem is. I know, it might've scared a child or two. You never been scared? According to you, you turned out just fine.

Now, let's get to the question that I asked you and you deflected from answering? What was it supposed to have shown them?

M


I think what he did for the community was admirable. It's the doing-in-front-of-kids part that I take issue with. Yes, it was  supposed to show them a guy being loyal to his community, I think. (I'm not honestly sure what they were thinking.) I doubt it actually came through that way. Is that clear enough?
 
2013-11-29 06:19:14 PM  

PsiChick: kerrigand: PsiChick: kerrigand: Look I realize you're trying to deflect your ignorance upon others.

Funny. I've provided the (entirely logical) assertion that seeing someone tazed will scare kids. You haven't provided a single reason why it wouldn't, and only brought up your credentials when you wanted to avoid answering me. Which of us is deflecting, again?


What is it supposed to show them? Not to get into a situation that you need to be tazed? Was it fun for the kids? I would ask you to ask them. I would be willing to bet that most weren't scared as much as they had fun and enjoyed what they were seeing. Something that they wouldn't want to happen to them. If you asked them if it scared them, I'd say most of them would say that it didn't. But, I would be willing to bet if you asked them if they had respect for it afterwards, I'd bet most of them would say that they did. Now I know you're just going to try to come up with something else to degrade what this guy did for the community, so go ahead. Get it off your chest and let's see what your next issue or problem is. I know, it might've scared a child or two. You never been scared? According to you, you turned out just fine.

Now, let's get to the question that I asked you and you deflected from answering? What was it supposed to have shown them?

M

I think what he did for the community was admirable. It's the doing-in-front-of-kids part that I take issue with. Yes, it was  supposed to show them a guy being loyal to his community, I think. (I'm not honestly sure what they were thinking.) I doubt it actually came through that way. Is that clear enough?


Your rationale, while quite admirable, isn't a good one. I most certainly want to protect the kids as much as you do, if not more. But, when you start denying them reality, then that's when they lose. Now, while I agree that this, if in another context happened, it might be a shock to a lot of kids. But to most in this situation, this was a guy they knew. He was a neighbor, a friend, maybe even a dad of one of the kids. It wasn't like that this happened out of the blue and was some guy that fell down in front of them from a taser after robbing a quick-e-mart. The people of the town knew this ahead of time, they made the choice, they, not you, not me, they, made the choice and they alone thought the kids we're up to understand what was going on. It's not up to you, nor me, to tell them or even really judge them on what they chose to do. You're welcome to your opinion as well as I am to mine. You just have no right to impress it upon them as if you were their parents. Nor do I. We done? We good?
 
2013-11-29 08:01:43 PM  
A 63-yo tasered for donations?

They are being accepted at the Knightstown Police Department:

They are being accepted posthumously, I assume.
 
2013-11-29 08:27:29 PM  

PsiChick: Farty McPooPants: From TFA: "He was shot with the Taser in a middle school gym on Wednesday, and the town clerk treasurer followed for what also became a teaching tool for young kids. A K9 officer also showed the crowd what his partner could do. "

I have a real problem with this.

They solicited "donations" after this show of force?

This is all kinds of farked up.

This is what they show kids nowadays. 'Behave or we do X.' I would  hate to be in elementary school right now, I was scared enough of cops when I was a little kid.


It's pretty sad that this seems to be lost on 3/4 of the people in this thread.

A demonstration for kids with k9 and tazers? I remember those gatherings in the school auditorium from growing up in the backwoods. They used to have youth events in my town for teenagers (teens only swimming, etc) where the cops would show up beforehand, unadvertised, and force us to listen to a detailed explanation of what happens when your stomach gets pumped for drugs. Let's just say there was no indication we were allowed to leave if we didn't want to hear it. (Sometimes the k9 guys would hang out by the exit with the dog sitting in front of it)

farking cops. I wish this dipshiat died.
 
2013-11-29 08:43:48 PM  
Now that's some liberal greatness there.

We have one that's scared of their own shadow and another one that wants people to die.

/Imagine that.
//typical
 
2013-11-29 08:50:16 PM  

kerrigand:

Dramatic much?

Just dumb.

4 kids, 7 grandchildren and helped out with numerous others. Until you get there, don't even talk to me about that. You don't have the qualification. When you do, you just let me know. Then and only then, will you be able to hold a qualified conversation.

I'm a parent. Not that it really means anything to you. Next it will be, "Until you have the same number of grandchildren as me you can't have opinions!"

kerrigand: I most certainly want to protect the kids as much as you do, if not more. But, when you start denying them reality,


No, you really don't. I agree that kids should be told about the reality of the situation, that cops are a protected class of citizen who are allowed to bully, torture, and murder the rest of us without repercussion, but that doesn't mean I approve of or encourage it.
 
2013-11-29 08:54:49 PM  

Kurgan Warlord: Now that's some liberal greatness there.

We have one that's scared of their own shadow and another one that wants people to die.

/Imagine that.
//typical


You keep using that word. A liberal is to me what a housecat is to a salamander. Two different animals. Try not to strain yourself by imagining something other than dichotomy.

Also, I wish cops would die, not people.
 
2013-11-29 08:56:59 PM  

Bandito King: kerrigand:

Dramatic much?

Just dumb.

4 kids, 7 grandchildren and helped out with numerous others. Until you get there, don't even talk to me about that. You don't have the qualification. When you do, you just let me know. Then and only then, will you be able to hold a qualified conversation.

I'm a parent. Not that it really means anything to you. Next it will be, "Until you have the same number of grandchildren as me you can't have opinions!"

kerrigand: I most certainly want to protect the kids as much as you do, if not more. But, when you start denying them reality,

No, you really don't. I agree that kids should be told about the reality of the situation, that cops are a protected class of citizen who are allowed to bully, torture, and murder the rest of us without repercussion, but that doesn't mean I approve of or encourage it.


You really sound butthurt.  Seen the backseat of a few cruisers, have ya?
 
2013-11-29 08:57:39 PM  

kerrigand: But, when you start denying them reality


Would you also like to discuss that in Africa rape is a military tactic? The  point of kids is to protect them from reality, and introduce them slowly. Kids in, say, kindergarten, don't need to know cops can hurt you, so let's not farking tell them.
 
2013-11-29 08:58:21 PM  

Bandito King: Kurgan Warlord: Now that's some liberal greatness there.

We have one that's scared of their own shadow and another one that wants people to die.

/Imagine that.
//typical

You keep using that word. A liberal is to me what a housecat is to a salamander. Two different animals. Try not to strain yourself by imagining something other than dichotomy.

Also, I wish cops would die, not people.


What world do you live in? Last time I checked they were one and the same.
Wanna try again?
 
2013-11-29 09:07:32 PM  

Kurgan Warlord:

You really sound butthurt.  Seen the backseat of a few cruisers, have ya?

Seen a hell of a lot worse than that.

Kurgan Warlord: Last time I checked they were one and the same.
Wanna try again?


No need, you're mistaken. Police consider themselves a separate breed and I support them in this.
 
2013-11-30 01:39:48 AM  
That's some fine trolling there Lou.
 
2013-11-30 05:15:29 AM  
Ha! It got posted on Facebook as: "Have you ever seen such cruelty?"

i1.ytimg.com
 
2013-11-30 09:07:37 AM  

Snarfangel: SecretAgentWoman: Oh, subby needs a cockpunch for this one.

But cockfighting is illegal!


You owe me a new keyboard.
 
2013-11-30 10:23:10 AM  
Meh he got done once ONCE!!! Now let him get hit mutliple times whilst his arm is being bent behind him and there is a knee in the back of his neck.
 
2013-11-30 02:44:37 PM  
i41.tinypic.com
 
2013-12-01 02:15:26 AM  
I got trolled right on in.  I'm not fond of that.
 
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