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(The Detroit_News)   The Detroit News pauses on Thanksgiving to look back at some egregious automotive turkeys   (detroitnews.com) divider line 45
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2013-11-29 03:38:06 AM
The Aztec wasn't a bad car.


It was god awful.
 
2013-11-29 04:45:23 AM
Edsels are actually cool now.  The others, not so much.
 
2013-11-29 07:22:21 AM
The 1980 Pontiac Sunbird. What a complete pile of shiat. My mother's only new car. The damned thing died the month before the loan was paid off. It cost more to tow to the junk yard than we got for scarp an parts.
 
2013-11-29 07:27:16 AM
It's baffling how badly Toyota can fark up the subcompact Yaris when Honda builds a wonderful subcompact Fit.
 
2013-11-29 07:28:40 AM
The Aztec was not a turkey, it was just too far ahead of the times.  Look at every new crossover out there, it reminds me so much of the Aztec.  Granted it wasn't quite balanced in design with signature colors of yellow and burnt orange, and it's x-factor was an optional tent that could stick out of the back.

These are bad executive decisions, the car itself was ahead of it's time as we see now.
 
2013-11-29 07:35:51 AM
And the worst car ever, the cadillac cimmaron.  It shows how lazy GM can be by taking a specific frame and trying to adapt it to every division.  Same thing they did with pontiac and saturn.  Why did pontiac ever have a suv? Why did saturn become yet another division for GM.  Because and f**k you, that's why.

Take a cavalier, put every option on and a few extra bits, and you have a fuel efficient caddy.  Isn't it beautiful.

\And people wonder why people coming of Age in the US don't care about cars.
 
2013-11-29 07:35:57 AM
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Chevy Vega
 
2013-11-29 07:39:17 AM
I don't get that list. Seems like some of them are talking about the biggest POS they ever owned and some are just giving their opinion on certain brands. The Thunderbird shouldn't be there just because she bought a used pile of steaming crap.
 
2013-11-29 07:44:47 AM

abhorrent1: I don't get that list. Seems like some of them are talking about the biggest POS they ever owned and some are just giving their opinion on certain brands. The Thunderbird shouldn't be there just because she bought a used pile of steaming crap.



Came here for this.
 
2013-11-29 08:08:43 AM
I'm surprised the 1996 Ford Taurus didn't make the list. That stupid bubble design killed the brand for a while.
 
2013-11-29 08:11:16 AM

exatron: I'm surprised the 1996 Ford Taurus didn't make the list. That stupid bubble design killed the brand for a while.


That was "the Homer," not a Taurus
 
2013-11-29 08:21:52 AM
exatron
I'm surprised the 1996 Ford Taurus didn't make the list. That stupid bubble design killed the brand for a while.


The only way I can hate a taurus bubble design is for the blandness. Might as well hate SUVs, pickups and toyota camrys.
 
2013-11-29 08:22:58 AM
The Yaris wasn't that bad, except for the instrument cluster being dead center in the dash. Having to turn your head to see your speed can't be good for safety.

/doesn't Jalopnik run this same article/list every couple of weeks?
 
2013-11-29 08:24:09 AM

exatron: I'm surprised the 1996 Ford Taurus didn't make the list. That stupid bubble design killed the brand for a while.


My first car was an '88 Taurus.  My father currently drives an '04.  Both were nice-looking sedans.

Mrs. Samurai drives a '96 Taurus wagon.  It's a tank that sips fuel with its pinky extended, but I keep referring to her as Admiral Ackbar because damned if it doesn't look like a Mon Calamari cruiser.

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2013-11-29 08:24:20 AM
My dad had a 58 Edsel Ranger, very fast car. The push button transmission was neat but eventually failed.
Wish I had it now.
 
2013-11-29 08:25:05 AM
Absent from the list, is the Volvo 260 series, with it's Peugeot designed engine.
 
2013-11-29 08:28:20 AM
www.bogley.com
 
2013-11-29 08:39:42 AM

Enemabag Jones: The Aztec was not a turkey, it was just too far ahead of the times.  Look at every new crossover out there, it reminds me so much of the Aztec.  Granted it wasn't quite balanced in design with signature colors of yellow and burnt orange, and it's x-factor was an optional tent that could stick out of the back.

These are bad executive decisions, the car itself was ahead of it's time as we see now.


In 10th century Europe, syphilis would have been ahead of its time too.
 
2013-11-29 08:46:03 AM
The AMC Pacer made the Gremlin look like an Aston Martin. Wrong AMC product, Pete.

As for the Renault: The parents of my best friend in HS had one, an '83 with a slushbox. He and I drove it to Tennessee once to visit his sister. It would do 80mph downhill with your foot floorboarded and a tailwind. The body panels were made of aluminum foil (you could push them in with your thumb and they'd pop back out). I disagree on the handling though. For the period, I thought the car handled decently. It rolled like the Queen Mary in corners, but so did every other car of the time. It just felt fairly well balanced.
 
2013-11-29 08:46:10 AM
What, no love for the car that launched Ralph Nader's career, the Corvair?
 
2013-11-29 08:51:41 AM
No mention of the good ol' Ford Pinto, the turkey of a car where you could roast yourself and the frozen turkey you bought at the supermarket at the same time?
 
2013-11-29 09:08:36 AM

abhorrent1: I don't get that list. Seems like some of them are talking about the biggest POS they ever owned and some are just giving their opinion on certain brands. The Thunderbird shouldn't be there just because she bought a used pile of steaming crap.


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Actually, I think the stupid biatch confused her Matador with a Thunderbird.   Probably wouldn't know a Pontiac from a Peugot
 
2013-11-29 09:15:08 AM
Can any of these turkeys fly?
 
2013-11-29 09:39:32 AM
I had a '75 VW Bug that ate fuel pumps like popcorn (it went through 5 of the suckers), and had the carburetor replaced when that went bad (between fuel pumps 3 and 4). It was in the shop more often than on the road, which earned it the name "Puff, The Tragic 'Wagen." After a year and a half of dealing with it, I traded it in to a used car dealer who gave me a lightly used 76 Volvo 242DL in an almost even trade (I paid another $300 for it). Apparently, he was searching for a classic Bug for someone else and was almost drooling over my car when I pulled into the lot. Granted, the Bug's body and interior were in great shape, but they were the ONLY things about that Bug in great shape. I got the better deal by far.
 
2013-11-29 10:23:43 AM
Hmmm It's Detroit, So make a list of shiatty cars for thanksgiving. - Journalism 101.
 
2013-11-29 10:40:53 AM
I actually like the Gremlin and I keep looking for a good deal on one to fix up.
 
2013-11-29 11:59:44 AM
The column just seems like quick-and-dirty, blogger-style "journalism."

Please separate out the unreliable, poor-quality cars (whether "design" or "build") from everything else.

And then, make note of things like the Cadillac Cimmaron--basically a gussied-up Nova.

PINTO: In the end, no more unsafe (statistically) than compact competitors likewise built to federal specs.

TAURUS: 1996 redesign a bit ahead of its customer base, but I still think it'll hold up well in the long term. I've always been a Taurus Wagon lover, but realize they're not everyone's cup of tea ["pinky extended" gave me a smile, UNC_S]

AZTEK: Interesting "ahead of its time" comment from E.J. Still too angular for me, but darned versatile--and I'm not aware of any big quality problems over the longer haul.

CORVAIR: Daring and progressive GM design as compared with Ford's plain-vanilla Falcon. First-Gen swing axle design admittedly not ideal; 2nd-Gen car has much to recommend it (I'm still amazed it lasted until 1967).

AMC: They did the best they could with not-so-deep pockets for development and design.

YUGO: Dirt-cheap design and execution

YMMV, of course...
 
2013-11-29 12:29:48 PM
No Renault Le Car?
/old girlfriend's niece had one, the doors tended to pop open randomly

And no Vega??

Tho the one I think everyone forgot was, early to mid-70's Hondas. Excellent car anywhere there wasn't road salt or salt air.
 
2013-11-29 01:07:03 PM

The_Philosopher_King: Chevy Vega


I had an Astre. The upscale vega. Wasn't entirely horrible.
 
2013-11-29 02:09:04 PM

ReapTheChaos: [www.bogley.com image 640x384]


I had a Pacer once.
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2013-11-29 03:37:38 PM

CBob: No Renault Le Car?


img.fark.net
People tend to block out traumatic experiences.
 
2013-11-29 07:50:39 PM
I owned a 72 Gremlin and loved it. Not the best handling car on the road but there wasn't any thing that went wrong with it that I couldn't easy fix on my own. It had a V8  andan 8 track. Can't beat that combo.
 
2013-11-29 10:22:13 PM
I had a 1991 Chevy Blazer 2 door.

Once, I went away on business.

Came back, tried to start it.  No go.  In fact, dead to the floor, not even any lights or clicking.

Well, shiat, must have left the lights on or something.  Phone a coworker to bring over his car and jumper cables, pop the hood, connect the cables to the ba--

--where the fark did the battery go?

Yes, some cheezer STOLE THE BATTERY, left the rest of the vehicle untouched.
/ditto on the 'cost more to tow away than I got back in scrap', including taking a loss on the new battery I had installed...
 
2013-11-29 10:46:26 PM

Ishidan: I had a 1991 Chevy Blazer 2 door.

Once, I went away on business.

Came back, tried to start it.  No go.  In fact, dead to the floor, not even any lights or clicking.

Well, shiat, must have left the lights on or something.  Phone a coworker to bring over his car and jumper cables, pop the hood, connect the cables to the ba--

--where the fark did the battery go?

Yes, some cheezer STOLE THE BATTERY, left the rest of the vehicle untouched.
/ditto on the 'cost more to tow away than I got back in scrap', including taking a loss on the new battery I had installed...


Okay, someone stoled your battery, so not sure why the truck was so bad.

That generation Blazer was a better truck than the next generation.  I have seen many people get over 250k miles out of them.  Although, the 83-94 Blazers I seen rolling around here were likely built in Pontiac, MI.  The next generation weren't built in MI, and they sucked.  I wouldn't know where your's was built.
 
2013-11-29 11:17:01 PM
GrizzledVeteran: CORVAIR: Daring and progressive GM design as compared with Ford's plain-vanilla Falcon. First-Gen swing axle design admittedly not ideal; 2nd-Gen car has much to recommend it (I'm still amazed it lasted until 1967).
Actually until '69, but the cars from the wind-down years were practically hand-built due to the low production volume. The '65-'69 version with the independent rear suspension had wonderful handling, but for all of Nader's bullshiat, it was really the Mustang, the Camaro, and emissions regulations that killed the 'Vair. Its reputation wasn't helped by GM's use of neoprene pushrod tube seals (hello, oil leaks!) or by people used to small-block V8s overtightening the fan belt.

/learned to drive in a '68 Corvair and a Corvair-powered '71 VW bus
//wtf happened to the formatting buttons?
 
2013-11-29 11:25:34 PM

Fubegra: //wtf happened to the formatting buttons?


Turned out to be a PEBCAK error. I had somehow clicked the checkbox in PrefBar to turn off Javascript. D'OH!
 
2013-11-30 02:37:01 AM

tirob: What, no love for the car that launched Ralph Nader's career, the Corvair?


There was nothing wrong with the Corvair that GM didn't fix. There is plenty of things wrong with the USA thanks to Nader2000 giving the election to George Bush that will never be fixed.
 
2013-11-30 02:57:03 AM
Good job mother of the kid, you're raising a fine attention whore there :)
 
2013-11-30 03:54:56 AM

ReapTheChaos: [www.bogley.com image 640x384]


Have you ever seen the off-road Pacers? They actually look pretty cool:

http://offroadaction.ca/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/stone-vi.jpg

http://offroadaction.ca/2010/05/30/amc-pacern-off-road-race-car/
 
2013-11-30 03:57:43 AM

2wolves: The_Philosopher_King: Chevy Vega

I had an Astre. The upscale vega. Wasn't entirely horrible.


Did it have the aluminum engine block? IIRC, that was the main problem with them.
 
2013-11-30 03:58:58 AM

EngineerAU: CBob: No Renault Le Car?

[img.fark.net image 470x325]
People tend to block out traumatic experiences.


Wow, I've never seen that version (panel?) before. I'm assuming they only imported the standard sedan version to the U.S.?
 
2013-11-30 04:02:14 AM

Enemabag Jones: The Aztec was not a turkey, it was just too far ahead of the times.  Look at every new crossover out there, it reminds me so much of the Aztec.  Granted it wasn't quite balanced in design with signature colors of yellow and burnt orange, and it's x-factor was an optional tent that could stick out of the back.

These are bad executive decisions, the car itself was ahead of it's time as we see now.


You know (SPOILER ALERT*) when I saw Breaking Bad and he was driving one in a dust color, the first thing that came to mind was "Hey! That's not a factory color! Who would repaint one? And that color"?! Then I realized it was part of the chromatic theming of the show. In fact, I think it was the Aztek's color that first clued me in to that. Somewhere on the web, someone does a very detailed break-down of the color associations of the different characters.


* Not really a spoiler!
 
2013-11-30 08:41:34 AM

Kevin72: tirob: What, no love for the car that launched Ralph Nader's career, the Corvair?

There was nothing wrong with the Corvair that GM didn't fix. There is plenty of things wrong with the USA thanks to Nader2000 giving the election to George Bush that will never be fixed.


1.  My recollection is that at the time--I am old enough to remember the Corvair being marketed--it was a car that was pretty well held in contempt much of the driving public.  Nader picked a soft target.

2.  Agreed that we'd have been better off if Nader had stuck to consumer protection.
 
2013-11-30 08:47:04 AM
...in contempt *by* much of the driving public...
 
2013-11-30 09:36:01 AM

EngineerAU: CBob: No Renault Le Car?

[img.fark.net image 470x325]
People tend to block out traumatic experiences.


www.theonecar.com
And the trauma starts over anew.
 
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