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(NewsBusters)   Reality: Barack Obama praises Magic Johnson. Right-wing reality: Barack Obama disses Michael Jordan   (newsbusters.org) divider line 16
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2013-11-29 12:10:14 AM
3 votes:

MBK: Frederick: Those are compelling counter arguments.

Explain how he is overrated.

Don't say "Well, no one liked him, he was a dick teammate"

He was.  He'd be the first to admit it.  But you don't have to be liked by your peers to be a great player.  Who gives a shiat if the opposing center doesn't like you?  Who cares if their 2nd string point guard thinks you are a jerk.

Also, why would MJ care if he wasn't recognized outside of basketball?  He made his money in basketball, why should he go do something he isn't familiar with?  That is like saying "Tiger Woods isn't recognized outside of golf".


I could be mistaken, but I believe the point there was that the sum total of Magic's achievements, including his success and importance away from basketball, makes him more noteworthy as a subject of praise by the president.

Do feel free to continue with your entertainingly festive butthurt dance, though.
2013-11-29 12:44:45 AM
2 votes:
If Magic Johnson wasn't HIV+, he wouldn't have had to find money elsewhere. If it wasn't for that, he might have been considered just a really great basketball player. I remember the early 90's when people were saying that he shouldn't play for the NBA any longer since he could 'infect' his team and that he would 'probably just get sick and die before his contract was up'. Of course he didn't, but I remember the stigma against him when I was a little girl. People saying he was gay, or did drugs or whatever.

I think the same would be said for Michael Jordan if he had to stop playing basketball during the height of his career. Some of these guys are just headstrong and stubborn and want to win at whatever they do. Michael Jordan might have made some blunders, but as far as I know Air Jordans are still extremely hot commodities and 'vintage' Air Jordans fetch a high price. I don't remember seeing any stories about people shooting each other over tickets to see a movie at a Magic Johnson Theatre. Not that murdering other people should be a qualifier for how popular something is.

With Magic Johnson having to retire, he was able to branch out and put that energy elsewhere and he did a lot of good as a result. But if things were different and he weren't HIV... I have no doubt none of that would materialize and he'd just stick with the NBA before retiring.

But as far as the best NBA player of all time? Neither Magic Johnson or Michael Jordan.

Wilt Chamberlain. Kareem Abdul-Jabar as a close second.
2013-11-29 12:44:16 AM
2 votes:

HighOnCraic: At NBA legend Magic Johnson's house, Obama said he talked with David Remnick, the editor of The New Yorker, who's traveling with the president. Obama said Remnick, who was a sports reporter earlier in his career, asked him, "So, what about Magic? What does this mean to you?"
Obama seemed to completely dismiss Michael Jordan and his "hometown" Chicago Bulls by saying there's "nobody" who is a "bigger icon" than Magic:
"You watch this career unfold, and it's a magical career," Obama said. "For anybody who loves basketball as much as me, there's nobody who is a bigger icon than Magic Johnson."
More than his career on the court, Obama said he admires how Johnson handled his HIV diagnosis with grace and how he leveraged his fame and fortune to build institutions.
"It's for those two reasons that I'm proud to call Magic Johnson a friend," Obama said.

History's greatest monster.

Clearly, Obama hates Jordan, which just proves that he's a racist.


This might be the dumbest thing I've ever heard.  Someone asked Obama about Magic Johnson and because he didn't immediately start talking about Michael Jordan, some right winger gets all butthurt.  It takes serious commitment to hate someone that much.  If it was't so farking dumb, it would almost be impressive.

And why is hometown in quotes?
2013-11-28 11:16:11 PM
2 votes:

MBK: Frederick:

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Peter von Nostrand: Frederick:

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Those are compelling counter arguments.
2013-11-28 11:04:45 PM
2 votes:
In 2009, AP's Nancy Benac noted that the president's grandfather, Stanley Dunham, was in a supply and maintenance company, not in combat. That's noble work, but "fought in Patton's army" implies something else.

ANYONE who served under Patton in WWII "fought" in Patton's army. The drives he pushed his men on are legendary. That means the support people had to keep up and work under intense pressure/fire. My grandfather was a tank-commander in III Corps under Patton. Some people shot, some people kept the sh*t running. Also, remember that cooks and support personnel helped the 101st hold Bastogne. Hence the term, "every soldier a rifleman."


And they quote the "nobody" and think people will actually believe he meant that Jordon was a "nobody"?

Another fine example of "journalism" from the Pedophile Post.
2013-11-29 07:51:28 AM
1 votes:
Constantly got calls in his favor and travelled all over the court.  And Space Jam is a true piece of shiat.
2013-11-29 01:11:21 AM
1 votes:
Right-wing reality: They hate all three of them....And something about Larry Bird.....
2013-11-29 12:17:30 AM
1 votes:
Frederick:On the court Jordan is the most overrated player of all time.

Statistically speaking, that's not true.  If you look at the NBA records for almost any category there are three names that are repeatedly at the top: Dr. Shaquille O'Neal, Wilt Chamberlain, and Michael Jordan.  It could argued that he's not the greatest player of all time, but he's certainly among the greats and in no way overrated.

Now, if you want to say he was the most over-hyped player of all time, that could be true and is considerably more difficult to substantiate.
2013-11-29 12:07:06 AM
1 votes:
OK, I'll just get back to drinking now.  Can't seem to give a shait.
2013-11-29 12:03:17 AM
1 votes:

TuteTibiImperes: MBK: Frederick: Those are compelling counter arguments.

Explain how he is overrated.

Don't say "Well, no one liked him, he was a dick teammate"

He was.  He'd be the first to admit it.  But you don't have to be liked by your peers to be a great player.  Who gives a shiat if the opposing center doesn't like you?  Who cares if their 2nd string point guard thinks you are a jerk.

Also, why would MJ care if he wasn't recognized outside of basketball?  He made his money in basketball, why should he go do something he isn't familiar with?  That is like saying "Tiger Woods isn't recognized outside of golf".

Some coworkers and I were having a discussion about Jordan the other day.  We came to the conclusion that while Scottie Pippen is a well known and respected player, he'd be remembered as one of the elite all-time greats if it weren't for playing under Jordan's shadow for so long.


I think the simplest way to put it is that Pippen was to Jordan as James Worthy was to Magic.
2013-11-28 11:48:10 PM
1 votes:

MBK: Frederick: Those are compelling counter arguments.

Explain how he is overrated.

Don't say "Well, no one liked him, he was a dick teammate"

He was.  He'd be the first to admit it.  But you don't have to be liked by your peers to be a great player.  Who gives a shiat if the opposing center doesn't like you?  Who cares if their 2nd string point guard thinks you are a jerk.

Also, why would MJ care if he wasn't recognized outside of basketball?  He made his money in basketball, why should he go do something he isn't familiar with?  That is like saying "Tiger Woods isn't recognized outside of golf".


Some coworkers and I were having a discussion about Jordan the other day.  We came to the conclusion that while Scottie Pippen is a well known and respected player, he'd be remembered as one of the elite all-time greats if it weren't for playing under Jordan's shadow for so long.
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2013-11-28 10:59:35 PM
1 votes:

Frederick: Micheal Jordan is not notable outside of basketball.

Earvin "Magic" Johnson is notable outside of basketball as a savvy businessman.

On the court Jordan is the most overrated player of all time.  If I were to pick any player from any time to begin a team I wouldnt start with Jordan.

/also Jordan is nowhere near as liked among peers as Magic


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2013-11-28 10:57:34 PM
1 votes:

Frederick: Micheal Jordan is not notable outside of basketball.

Earvin "Magic" Johnson is notable outside of basketball as a savvy businessman.

On the court Jordan is the most overrated player of all time.  If I were to pick any player from any time to begin a team I wouldnt start with Jordan.

/also Jordan is nowhere near as liked among peers as Magic


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2013-11-28 10:54:39 PM
1 votes:

Frederick: On the court Jordan is the most overrated player of all time. If I were to pick any player from any time to begin a team I wouldnt start with Jordan.


Lol.  You think Jordan is overrated?  Stupid kids these days commenting on players they never saw play.  I watched him score 60 for the Bulls on the same day that he got four touchdowns for the Bears.  I watched him set the long jump world record on one of his dunks.  Then they measured the dude's heart after his death and it was twice as large as any of the competitors.  Or maybe it was Secretariat, but what's important is that Jordan was the best player of all-time and you are a n00b.  Lol.  You're just mad that Jordan bet on the Bulls and made a lot of money when he beat your team.  Lol.
2013-11-28 10:44:50 PM
1 votes:
Jesus. The derangement on that site is palpable.
2013-11-28 10:21:56 PM
1 votes:
Micheal Jordan is not notable outside of basketball.

Earvin "Magic" Johnson is notable outside of basketball as a savvy businessman.

On the court Jordan is the most overrated player of all time.  If I were to pick any player from any time to begin a team I wouldnt start with Jordan.

/also Jordan is nowhere near as liked among peers as Magic
 
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