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(NewsBusters)   Reality: Barack Obama praises Magic Johnson. Right-wing reality: Barack Obama disses Michael Jordan   (newsbusters.org) divider line 76
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2013-11-29 01:20:33 AM

Mrtraveler01: Harry_Seldon: YodaTuna: I have zero stake in this conversation, but to be fair, Michael Jordan is simply the face of Air Jordan's.  It's not his business or his marketing idea.  Magic, on the other hand, is actually a successful business man, not simply a commercial for an already existing brand.

To be fair, Michael Jordan is the majority owner of the Charlotte Bobcats.

You're not helping his case.


He made the deal that eventually became Damian Lilliard being drafted by the Blazers, so I am okay with it.
 
2013-11-29 01:22:03 AM

Frederick: Also if the conversation is purely NBA icon then the answer is Jerry West.  Literally the NBA's icon


I honestly wonder how many folks know that fact.
 
2013-11-29 01:22:30 AM
"In 2009, AP's Nancy Benac noted that the president's grandfather, Stanley Dunham, was in a supply and maintenance company, not in combat. That's noble work, but "fought in Patton's army" implies something else."

I'm sure that these people are just as harsh on Right Wingers who claim service they never saw or medals they never won, right?

And as for the whole Johnson/Jordan thing, this is actually the MOST ridiculous thing that these people have tried yet. This is all subjective, and there are probably a dozen or so players out there that people could argue are the "biggest icon in the sport". I'd have to say that Jordan is a bigger star than Johnson, but it isn't "dissing" Michael Jordan in some way for Obama to say this.

The good news is that the Right ' s complete inability to focus on REAL issues means that the actual valid complaints about Obama either flounder or disappear completely because they keep distracting the narrative with this bullshiat.
 
2013-11-29 01:25:38 AM

alienated: Frederick: Also if the conversation is purely NBA icon then the answer is Jerry West.  Literally the NBA's icon

I honestly wonder how many folks know that fact.


Maybe they should replace him with a more modern icon, such as Shaq.
 
2013-11-29 01:33:14 AM

Harry_Seldon: alienated: Frederick: Also if the conversation is purely NBA icon then the answer is Jerry West.  Literally the NBA's icon

I honestly wonder how many folks know that fact.

Maybe they should replace him with a more modern icon, such as Shaq.


nosureifserious.jpg      I liked Shaq, hell, I like Lebron also. But .... No. Jerry West not being still a part of the Lakers irks me to no end, and he , imho, will always be the icon of the NBA. Dont get me wrong- watching Jordan just school everyone was great, and I hate the frigging Bulls .
 
2013-11-29 01:33:30 AM

Frederick: Earvin "Magic" Johnson is notable outside of basketball as a savvy businessman.


He owns the Burger King down the street from me. Worst farking BK I've ever been to. I don't see how it stays in business because it doesn't appear that they ever bother to take orders at the drive thru. I tried a couple of times and no one ever came on the speaker. When I drive by, I never see anyone being served at the drive thru window. The next closest BK is a couple of miles, so if for some reason my brain is screwed up and wants fast food, I go to  the non MJ owned BK. Until I found out he owned the bad BK I thought it was being used as a drug front because the parking lot almost never has more than one or two cars.

My first job was working at Burger King. It's not hard. Not sure why his BK sucks so bad unless he's running it as a charity for people who can't hold down a job anywhere else.
 
2013-11-29 02:07:27 AM

EngineerAU: Frederick: Earvin "Magic" Johnson is notable outside of basketball as a savvy businessman.

He owns the Burger King down the street from me. Worst farking BK I've ever been to. I don't see how it stays in business because it doesn't appear that they ever bother to take orders at the drive thru. I tried a couple of times and no one ever came on the speaker. When I drive by, I never see anyone being served at the drive thru window. The next closest BK is a couple of miles, so if for some reason my brain is screwed up and wants fast food, I go to  the non MJ owned BK. Until I found out he owned the bad BK I thought it was being used as a drug front because the parking lot almost never has more than one or two cars.

My first job was working at Burger King. It's not hard. Not sure why his BK sucks so bad unless he's running it as a charity for people who can't hold down a job anywhere else.


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2013-11-29 02:24:00 AM

propasaurus: Enjoy Thanksgiving with your family and loved ones. Step away from the vitriol machine for one day.


Not necessarily mutually exclusive.
 
2013-11-29 02:47:45 AM

Brainsick: No Catchy Nickname: I think the main problem with your argument is that you use "MJ" to refer to one of the two players, when in fact those initials could be used for either one.

CSB:
Back in the late 80's (early 90's?) I was a white middle-class kid dying to get a pair of Air Jordans and my mom came home with these:
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Yes, that's MJ for Michael Jackson


You see, a really cool mother would have brought back a baggie of "MJ".
 
2013-11-29 02:53:30 AM

Gyrfalcon: Just when you thought they'd scraped the bottom of the derp outrage barrel,....


I know, right.

To me it feels like there's a bit of a "challenge accepted" vibe going on here.

It's like they said to themselves let's pluck a random story out of the papers in which Obama did absolutely nothing wrong and find a way to make him a bad guy.

Obama when asked a question about Magic Johnson by a reporter in Magic Johnson's house says some nice things about Magic Johnson.

That's the story.

Obama didn't mention Micheal Jordan? Wow, he just dissed Micheal Jordan and by extension Da Bulls. Wotta Dick!

It must be like a game to them on a given level.

Obama single handedly figures out how to cure all forms of cancer with synthisized unicorn farts?

Thousand of oncologist facing job insecurity!!

Etc, etc etc ad nauseum ad infinitum.

Thanks Fartbama!
 
2013-11-29 02:53:59 AM
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2013-11-29 03:48:18 AM

TuteTibiImperes: MBK: Frederick: Those are compelling counter arguments.

Explain how he is overrated.

Don't say "Well, no one liked him, he was a dick teammate"

He was.  He'd be the first to admit it.  But you don't have to be liked by your peers to be a great player.  Who gives a shiat if the opposing center doesn't like you?  Who cares if their 2nd string point guard thinks you are a jerk.

Also, why would MJ care if he wasn't recognized outside of basketball?  He made his money in basketball, why should he go do something he isn't familiar with?  That is like saying "Tiger Woods isn't recognized outside of golf".

Some coworkers and I were having a discussion about Jordan the other day.  We came to the conclusion that while Scottie Pippen is a well known and respected player, he'd be remembered as one of the elite all-time greats if it weren't for playing under Jordan's shadow for so long.


If he hadn't been Jordan's teammate, Pippen would be remembered about as well as Paul Pressey.
 
2013-11-29 03:52:45 AM
Obama refused to mention Larry Bird due to his deep seated hatred of white people.
 
2013-11-29 04:47:39 AM

alienated: Harry_Seldon: alienated: Frederick: Also if the conversation is purely NBA icon then the answer is Jerry West.  Literally the NBA's icon

I honestly wonder how many folks know that fact.

Maybe they should replace him with a more modern icon, such as Shaq.

nosureifserious.jpg      I liked Shaq, hell, I like Lebron also. But .... No. Jerry West not being still a part of the Lakers irks me to no end, and he , imho, will always be the icon of the NBA. Dont get me wrong- watching Jordan just school everyone was great, and I hate the frigging Bulls .


No, not serious. Although....any of you Photoshop wizards want to replace the NBA log silhouette with Shaq?
 
2013-11-29 07:14:25 AM

Solid Muldoon: Magic Johnson opened a movie theater in my town. It failed.
They turned it into a high-class nightclub. It failed.
It became a bar that keeps getting shut down because people keep getting murdered there.

Thanks, Magic 0Bummer!


ft
 
2013-11-29 07:29:57 AM

Frederick: I thought the Washington Generals were due to win.


That game was fixed.  They were using a freakin' ladder, for God's sake.
 
2013-11-29 07:51:28 AM
Constantly got calls in his favor and travelled all over the court.  And Space Jam is a true piece of shiat.
 
2013-11-29 07:53:36 AM
The only ways to think Jordan was over - rated is to have never seen him play, not understand statistics, not understand basketball, and be drunk.

Wilt wasn't even the best player of his era. That was Bill Russell.
 
2013-11-29 07:57:17 AM
www.fotomage.com
 
2013-11-29 08:38:54 AM

Mike_LowELL: Then they measured the dude's heart after his death and it was twice as large as any of the competitors.


I heard it looked like a basketball filled with ricotta cheese.
 
2013-11-29 08:47:14 AM

Frederick: Micheal Jordan is not notable outside of basketball.

Earvin "Magic" Johnson is notable outside of basketball as a savvy businessman.

On the court Jordan is the most overrated player of all time.  If I were to pick any player from any time to begin a team I wouldnt start with Jordan.

/also Jordan is nowhere near as liked among peers as Magic


Michael Jordan was in Space Jam tho
 
2013-11-29 08:56:28 AM

Rascal King: The only ways to think Jordan was over - rated is to have never seen him play, not understand statistics, not understand basketball, and be drunk.

Wilt wasn't even the best player of his era. That was Bill Russell.


Jesus, this just isn't true. Wilt averaged 29 ppg against Russell and set the all-time rebounding record (55!) against Russell's "domination".

Russell just had a substantially more talented supporting cast. The Celtics had both the MVP and the Rookie of the Year for Russell's rookie system. Neither of whom were named Bill Russell.

Wilt, OTOH, earned both awards his first year. Additionally, a player has only scored 60 points in a game 62 times in NBA history. Wilt's responsible for over half of them.  He was the most athletic big man who ever lived and would have crushed Jordan 1v1. Would have gone something like this.
 
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2013-11-29 08:59:01 AM
Bad Subby. Today's right-wing credits all of those Bulls' championships to Will Perdue.
 
2013-11-29 09:31:36 AM
Since y'all keep mentioning Space Jam, please enjoy the original Space Jam website, which hasn't been updated since 1996: Link
 
2013-11-29 10:21:54 AM
Oh ffs Republicans.
 
2013-11-29 03:09:13 PM
Since y'all keep mentioning Space Jam and how great Michael Jordan is, don't forget, Magic Johnson did use up his last time out to congratulate Homer on saving Springfield from nuclear holocaust.
 
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