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(Newser)   Score one for the spend-Thanksgiving-at-home team: A Pizza Hut general manager in Indiana who says he was fired for refusing to open the store today has been told he can have his job back if he wants it   (newser.com) divider line 81
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2013-11-28 10:27:17 AM
only to be caught in some less publicly embarrassing alleged crime and fired mid January
 
2013-11-28 10:30:16 AM
I admire his principles.
 
2013-11-28 11:08:31 AM
Honestly it probably would have cost that particular Pizza Hut more to keep the store open than the revenues it potentially could have generated today.
 
2013-11-28 11:28:37 AM
They just don't want to pay unemployment........

/and they can't get another manager in such a short time
//but they will find one
 
2013-11-28 11:41:46 AM
It's like these companies haven't heard of the internet and how bad publicity resulting from being douchebags will hurt them.
 
2013-11-28 11:48:40 AM
Good.
 
2013-11-28 01:44:38 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Honestly it probably would have cost that particular Pizza Hut more to keep the store open than the revenues it potentially could have generated today.


I had to run to the grocery store (which is closing at 5PM today, so at least they get the evening off) to get something, and I noticed that the few restaurants that were open were deserted.

Honestly, before I saw this, no way would I have imagined that any Pizza Hut anywhere would be open today.  Why?
 
2013-11-28 01:50:32 PM
Yeah, principles and all that but I'm freezing my ass off on line waiting for Best Buy to open and I sure could use some Pizza right now.
 
2013-11-28 01:51:32 PM
Granted it was a full-service restaurant and not a Pizza Hut, but last year I worked serving tables on Thanksgiving and made $700+ in tips on my shift. Busiest night we'd ever seen.
All other restaurants were closed and many lonely miserable people, singles, couples who don't cook, retirees, and vacationers with no family here were hungry and no one else was open.

/CSB
 
2013-11-28 01:51:35 PM
It's so the Pizza Hut death squad knows his location.
 
2013-11-28 01:52:51 PM
The catch is he has to work today with his employees.
 
2013-11-28 01:55:43 PM

basemetal: They just don't want to pay unemployment........

/and they can't get another manager in such a short time
//but they will find one


They wouldn't have to, he was very much fired with cause.

But he is a fool if he goes back, his days are numbered. Every minor infraction will be documented until he is fired again. One minute late? Write up!
 
2013-11-28 01:57:09 PM
The only two places open in my town today are the K&W Cafeteria and Waffle House.  Both were packed.

/family tradition of eating at K&W - not that expensive, and worth every penny to not clean up
 
2013-11-28 01:58:47 PM
 
2013-11-28 01:59:21 PM
...so people can stay at home and toss a frozen pizza in the oven.
 
2013-11-28 01:59:34 PM

jake_lex: Honestly, before I saw this, no way would I have imagined that any Pizza Hut anywhere would be open today. Why?


People out of town or unable to cook themselves.  I've had to spend a Thanksgiving or two under those circumstances.  But I'll tell you, we didn't eat at f'ing Pizza Hut that night.

Majick Thise: only to be caught in some less publicly embarrassing alleged crime and fired mid January


Yep.  "He came in 5 seconds too late on three occasions and then he had a personal phone call and he didn't take his break as mandated by company policy when the store was hit by a late dinner rush, and one time he threw away a bad of onions that had gone bad without filling out the proper paperwork. "
 
2013-11-28 01:59:55 PM

basemetal: They just don't want to pay unemployment........

/and they can't get another manager in such a short time
//but they will find one


He refused to resign and they said he quit anyway so he wasn't going to get unemployment anyhow.  That by itself deserves investigation.  They may be scamming the unemployment security system to keep their experience rating down by lying about the condition of separation.  I have worked for a company that did this.  It cost me $5K I didn't have.  The cruelty of such a practice is abominable.
 
2013-11-28 02:00:45 PM

basemetal: They just don't want to pay unemployment........

/and they can't get another manager in such a short time
//but they will find one


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2013-11-28 02:02:43 PM
This is ridiculous. I normally don't defend big corportations but why is Thanksgiving such a big deal? A bunch of white people killed Indians and stole their crops and we're supposed to be thankful?
 
2013-11-28 02:03:44 PM

jake_lex: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Honestly it probably would have cost that particular Pizza Hut more to keep the store open than the revenues it potentially could have generated today.

I had to run to the grocery store (which is closing at 5PM today, so at least they get the evening off) to get something, and I noticed that the few restaurants that were open were deserted.

Honestly, before I saw this, no way would I have imagined that any Pizza Hut anywhere would be open today.  Why?


So in some frigid town in the north east, some poor miserable sonofabiatch can spend his last 8 bucks on thanksgiving dinner in a grungy pizza hut full of miserable workers.
 
2013-11-28 02:03:53 PM

symbolset: basemetal: They just don't want to pay unemployment........

/and they can't get another manager in such a short time
//but they will find one

He refused to resign and they said he quit anyway so he wasn't going to get unemployment anyhow.  That by itself deserves investigation.  They may be scamming the unemployment security system to keep their experience rating down by lying about the condition of separation.  I have worked for a company that did this.  It cost me $5K I didn't have.  The cruelty of such a practice is abominable.


I don't get it though, even if they did fire him, it was because he wouldn't open the store when they told him to. That isn't going to get you unemployment. I think they claim he quit for PR reasons, not to cheat him out of the unemployment.
 
2013-11-28 02:04:49 PM

AcneVulgaris: jake_lex: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Honestly it probably would have cost that particular Pizza Hut more to keep the store open than the revenues it potentially could have generated today.

I had to run to the grocery store (which is closing at 5PM today, so at least they get the evening off) to get something, and I noticed that the few restaurants that were open were deserted.

Honestly, before I saw this, no way would I have imagined that any Pizza Hut anywhere would be open today.  Why?

So in some frigid town in the north east, some poor miserable sonofabiatch can spend his last 8 bucks on thanksgiving dinner in a grungy pizza hut full of miserable workers.


From the thread yesterday pizza places get a lot of biz today. People who eat late dinner call for lunch and people who eat at like 2 call late night. Apparently.
 
2013-11-28 02:06:06 PM

jake_lex: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Honestly it probably would have cost that particular Pizza Hut more to keep the store open than the revenues it potentially could have generated today.

I had to run to the grocery store (which is closing at 5PM today, so at least they get the evening off) to get something, and I noticed that the few restaurants that were open were deserted.

Honestly, before I saw this, no way would I have imagined that any Pizza Hut anywhere would be open today.  Why?


People who don't do Thanksgiving (and you wouldn't believe how many that is) aren't gonna be up when you made your grocery run, and especially ain't gonna be eating dinner. I'm open for business today sellin' Go-kart and bumper car rides. Who rides go go-cart on thanksgiving in 30° weather? About 10 an hour, that's who. If they weren't there, I wouldn't open either.

/Yes, I work the holiday, My 5-guy crew is way too close and personal not to.
//Special dinner come Monday across the street for all of them and their family
 
2013-11-28 02:07:28 PM

Mikeyworld: jake_lex: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Honestly it probably would have cost that particular Pizza Hut more to keep the store open than the revenues it potentially could have generated today.

I had to run to the grocery store (which is closing at 5PM today, so at least they get the evening off) to get something, and I noticed that the few restaurants that were open were deserted.

Honestly, before I saw this, no way would I have imagined that any Pizza Hut anywhere would be open today.  Why?

People who don't do Thanksgiving (and you wouldn't believe how many that is) aren't gonna be up when you made your grocery run, and especially ain't gonna be eating dinner. I'm open for business today sellin' Go-kart and bumper car rides. Who rides go go-cart on thanksgiving in 30° weather? About 10 an hour, that's who. If they weren't there, I wouldn't open either.

/Yes, I work the holiday, My 5-guy crew is way too close and personal not to.
//Special dinner come Monday across the street for all of them and their family


According to yesterday's thread you are a heartless monster for making people work.

Just curious, are you paying them extra?
 
2013-11-28 02:08:52 PM
You know the people who work on Thanksgiving?

They order in pizza.
 
2013-11-28 02:11:12 PM
What is the name of the owner of that franchise? We should mock him publicly.
 
2013-11-28 02:11:24 PM
....and then he'll be officially fired once the heat has died down a few weeks later.
 
2013-11-28 02:13:15 PM
There are thousands of small Mom & Pop type eateries open today across America where they're feeding the homeless, the unemployed, the lonely all free of charge. With donations and volunteers.

I'm looking at you, Pizza Hut.
 
2013-11-28 02:16:13 PM
This guy so much as shows up 2 minutes late and he's out the farking door.
 
2013-11-28 02:18:11 PM

jst3p: symbolset: basemetal: They just don't want to pay unemployment........

...

I don't get it though, even if they did fire him, it was because he wouldn't open the store when they told him to. That isn't going to get you unemployment. I think they claim he quit for PR reasons, not to cheat him out of the unemployment.


In the unemployment system that is termination for cause, and unless he was dipping the till or something he's going to win on appeal.  Voluntary quit is harder to disprove because the burden of proof is on the employee and it's almost impossible to prove something didn't happen.  Auditing such a company will almost always find that no employees are ever fired - they always quit despite their adamant protests that they didn't.  The franchise owner saves on Unemployment payments and noone is ever the wiser.

More to the point, he didn't quit.  Saying he did to save money is fraud.
 
2013-11-28 02:19:56 PM
"We respect don't respect an employee's right to not work on a holiday, which is why the vast majority of Pizza Huts in America are closed on Thanksgiving he was fired. But, due to public outcry, and potential lack of revenue, we had to give the bastard his job back.," the office said in a statement.

/FTFY
/Nothing like corporate greed and showing you that your 10 plus years of faithful service mean nothing to them. Too bad it was the bad press that finally forced them to give the guy his job back and do the right thing. I wouldn't be surprised if he told them to stick it up their fat asses.
 
2013-11-28 02:20:35 PM

symbolset: In the unemployment system that is termination for cause, and unless he was dipping the till or something he's going to win on appeal.


So I can not show up to work, get fired, and collect unemployment? You seem more knowledgeable than I, or at least more confident, but that doesn't sound right.
 
2013-11-28 02:21:59 PM

jst3p: symbolset: In the unemployment system that is termination for cause, and unless he was dipping the till or something he's going to win on appeal.

So I can not show up to work, get fired, and collect unemployment? You seem more knowledgeable than I, or at least more confident, but that doesn't sound right.


Doesn't sound right at all:

In order to receive unemployment you have to be unemployed through no fault of your own.  If you get fired from your job your employer may have a valid reason for firing you, and thus it is your own fault that you are unemployed, and therefore you are ineligible to receive unemployment benefits.

http://unemploymenthandbook.com/unemployment-articles/all-about-unem pl oyment/181-can-you-get-unemployment-if-you-get-fired
 
2013-11-28 02:22:50 PM
You people who shop on Thanksgiving are straight-up ASSHOLES.

And frankly, I think Black Friday is some ol' bullshiat, too. We might as well make it a holiday and call it Greedy Asshole Day.

Seriously: F♥ck you people. You're lining up to be good little proles for the plutocrats who continue to make this country shiattier and shiattier every year, and all you can say is, "herp derp I gots me my TV for $75 off. Durrrr."

A S S H O L E S, the lot of you.
 
2013-11-28 02:22:52 PM

nickdaisy: This is ridiculous. I normally don't defend big corportations but why is Thanksgiving such a big deal? A bunch of white people killed Indians and stole their crops and we're supposed to be thankful?


Because more and more companies that where traditionally closed on certain holidays are staying open and bending over thier wage slaves.
 
2013-11-28 02:25:19 PM

ZeroCorpse: You people who shop on Thanksgiving are straight-up ASSHOLES.

And frankly, I think Black Friday is some ol' bullshiat, too. We might as well make it a holiday and call it Greedy Asshole Day.

Seriously: F♥ck you people. You're lining up to be good little proles for the plutocrats who continue to make this country shiattier and shiattier every year, and all you can say is, "herp derp I gots me my TV for $75 off. Durrrr."

A S S H O L E S, the lot of you.


THIS, If some person stimulated the economy for the local body shops by keying the cars of the people doing the "black friday on thursday"sales Id have the "good" cat look on my face.
 
2013-11-28 02:29:10 PM
does this mean I can eat at pizza hut again or not?  should I still be outraged?  please let me know.
 
2013-11-28 02:32:57 PM
Corporations are made up of people. This was likely a disagreement between the General Manager and his boss. General Manager was told by his boss to open on Thanksgiving, General Manager made a judgement call that opening up on Thanksgiving was not worth the effort, got fired by his boss, and corporate HQ backed the General Manager.

It seems to me that folks in this thread are reading in their own prejudices about corporations and how they work in this thread.
 
2013-11-28 02:33:28 PM

ZeroCorpse: You people who shop on Thanksgiving are straight-up ASSHOLES.

And frankly, I think Black Friday is some ol' bullshiat, too. We might as well make it a holiday and call it Greedy Asshole Day.

Seriously: F♥ck you people. You're lining up to be good little proles for the plutocrats who continue to make this country shiattier and shiattier every year, and all you can say is, "herp derp I gots me my TV for $75 off. Durrrr."

A S S H O L E S, the lot of you.


Do you buy/shop local for everything? Where'd you get the computer/tablet/phone you posted this from? Hypocrite.
 
2013-11-28 02:33:47 PM

Bit'O'Gristle: "We respect don't respect an employee's right to not work on a holiday, which is why the vast majority of Pizza Huts in America are closed on Thanksgiving he was fired. But, due to public outcry, and potential lack of revenue, we had to give the bastard his job back.," the office said in a statement.

/FTFY
/Nothing like corporate greed and showing you that your 10 plus years of faithful service mean nothing to them. Too bad it was the bad press that finally forced them to give the guy his job back and do the right thing. I wouldn't be surprised if he told them to stick it up their fat asses.


Realistically? Even if he takes the job back, they'll target him, make his work difficult, and eventually get him out of there when the media is no longer paying attention.

This was just a show for the masses. A PR move. They know he's done there, and I'm sure he's savvy enough to know going back to work would be a limited-time thing that would suck until it ended.
 
2013-11-28 02:33:51 PM

acronym: does this mean I can eat at pizza hut again or not?  should I still be outraged?  please let me know.


Their pizza sucks, so I say not.
 
2013-11-28 02:35:04 PM

jst3p: jst3p: symbolset: In the unemployment system that is termination for cause, and unless he was dipping the till or something he's going to win on appeal.

So I can not show up to work, get fired, and collect unemployment? You seem more knowledgeable than I, or at least more confident, but that doesn't sound right.

Doesn't sound right at all:

In order to receive unemployment you have to be unemployed through no fault of your own.  If you get fired from your job your employer may have a valid reason for firing you, and thus it is your own fault that you are unemployed, and therefore you are ineligible to receive unemployment benefits.

http://unemploymenthandbook.com/unemployment-articles/all-about-unem pl oyment/181-can-you-get-unemployment-if-you-get-fired


Here you get a lawer.  If they say voluntary quit, you don't.  You get an Administrative Law judge and the employer gets a lawyer.

11. You might still be able to get unemployment if you were fired for exercising your legal rights as they relate to the workplace.  If you think this is the case, you should consult an employment or labor lawyer.
 
2013-11-28 02:36:17 PM

symbolset: jst3p: jst3p: symbolset: In the unemployment system that is termination for cause, and unless he was dipping the till or something he's going to win on appeal.

So I can not show up to work, get fired, and collect unemployment? You seem more knowledgeable than I, or at least more confident, but that doesn't sound right.

Doesn't sound right at all:

In order to receive unemployment you have to be unemployed through no fault of your own.  If you get fired from your job your employer may have a valid reason for firing you, and thus it is your own fault that you are unemployed, and therefore you are ineligible to receive unemployment benefits.

http://unemploymenthandbook.com/unemployment-articles/all-about-unem pl oyment/181-can-you-get-unemployment-if-you-get-fired

Here you get a lawer.  If they say voluntary quit, you don't.  You get an Administrative Law judge and the employer gets a lawyer.

11. You might still be able to get unemployment if you were fired for exercising your legal rights as they relate to the workplace.  If you think this is the case, you should consult an employment or labor lawyer.


"I didn't want to work that day" is a legal right?
 
2013-11-28 02:36:18 PM
Its more about the Huge PR mess than the unemployment as the loss of sales  due to customers pissed off likely could have cost them more than unemployment payments.

Besides would you want to have to explain to the judge/arbitrator  that you fired a guy for taking a stand about letting employees be with their families on thanksgiving?   I would not.   If it ended up before a jury it would be even less inclined to try to defend it.

While they may have been with in their rights it is makes them look like douchebags of the highest order.
 
2013-11-28 02:38:39 PM

ZeroCorpse: You people who shop on Thanksgiving  believe in a capitalist society are straight-up ASSHOLES.


just say what you really mean.

/not saying it is wrong.
 
2013-11-28 02:40:27 PM

jake_lex: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Honestly it probably would have cost that particular Pizza Hut more to keep the store open than the revenues it potentially could have generated today.

I had to run to the grocery store (which is closing at 5PM today, so at least they get the evening off) to get something, and I noticed that the few restaurants that were open were deserted.

Honestly, before I saw this, no way would I have imagined that any Pizza Hut anywhere would be open today.  Why?


I use to work at a grocery store and we seen a lot of women who just don't want to be at home(beaten), so they do a weeks worth of shopping on Thanksgiving
 
2013-11-28 02:40:46 PM

jst3p: symbolset: jst3p: jst3p: symbolset:

Here you get a lawer.  If they say voluntary quit, you don't.  You get an Administrative Law judge and the employer gets a lawyer.

11. You might still be able to get unemployment if you were fired for exercising your legal rights as they relate to the workplace.  If you think this is the case, you should consult an employment or labor lawyer.

"I didn't want to work that day" is a legal right?


Once you have a lawyer everything is negotiable.  The company can be sued for misrepresentations in court, among other things.  So it is essential that the franchise owner make sure the former employee doesn't have a lawyer if at all possible.
 
2013-11-28 02:41:31 PM

ZeroCorpse: You people who shop on Thanksgiving are straight-up ASSHOLES.

And frankly, I think Black Friday is some ol' bullshiat, too. We might as well make it a holiday and call it Greedy Asshole Day.

Seriously: F♥ck you people. You're lining up to be good little proles for the plutocrats who continue to make this country shiattier and shiattier every year, and all you can say is, "herp derp I gots me my TV for $75 off. Durrrr."

A S S H O L E S, the lot of you.


How does the fact that a bunch of people that you don't know have to work because a bunch of people you don't know want to shop make your world any "shiatier"?

Also, are you watching the game?
 
2013-11-28 02:42:12 PM

symbolset: Once you have a lawyer everything is negotiable.


Fair enough, but I am sure their lawyers are better than he can afford.
 
2013-11-28 02:42:39 PM

grimlock1972: Its more about the Huge PR mess than the unemployment as the loss of sales  due to customers pissed off likely could have cost them more than unemployment payments.

Besides would you want to have to explain to the judge/arbitrator  that you fired a guy for taking a stand about letting employees be with their families on thanksgiving?   I would not.   If it ended up before a jury it would be even less inclined to try to defend it.

While they may have been with in their rights it is makes them look like douchebags of the highest order.


/i agree. When i heard this story, both myself and my wife decided never to darken a PIzza Hut door again. And even them offering the guy his job back?   Bah, that's obviously a weak ass attempt at PR damage control because they were scared the public would shun them as money grubbing heartless corporate fatcats.  It was ok to fire him before, but now that everyone is pissed and we will lose money its all about the damage control.and making it look like "we are all family" blah blah blah....nobody is buying it, and I'm still not going to a Pizza Hut as long as i live. Godfathers on the other hand...mmmmm.
 
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