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(Telegraph)   British newspaper tries to explain the concept of American Thanksgiving and Black Friday to its baffled readers   (telegraph.co.uk) divider line 80
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2013-11-28 01:10:23 PM  
gfid:There are construction workers a block away hammering and sawing and building more homes.  FFS, I thought they would take the day off today.  I really am sick of all that noise.

They are probably thankful for their income.,
 
2013-11-28 01:11:27 PM  
Maybe you can explain Guy Fawke to us Americans.  Wasn't he the guy who tried to burn down the British government?  Why is he an idol to so many of you?

I'm American. With nice British friends that invite me over every year to crash with them, lend me a horse to foxhunt on, pub crawl, and basically let me indulge my rampant Anglophile tendencies. I adore the English countryside and traditional way of life.

In a nutshell, it's as if we had a national holiday where we build big bonfires and burn effigies of Benedict Arnold.

Fawke was a Catholic baddie who tried to blow up Parliament and re-establish Catholic control of England. The Protestant majority celebrates his defeat by burning effigies of him and assert their enthusiasm for the Royal Family.   Only later did he become a metaphor for people resisting the government.
 
2013-11-28 01:15:41 PM  

mark12A: With nice British friends that invite me over every year to crash with them, lend me a horse to foxhunt on


And of course by "foxhunting" you mean riding through the countryside in costumes while not hunting fozes.
 
2013-11-28 01:16:54 PM  

EngineerBob: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: What's cool is Hanukkah is happening on Thanksgiving.

The Jews celebrate supplies lasting eight days instead of one, while Americans celebrate food lasting one day instead of eight.

well, it IS eight days if you count leftovers...


Touché!
 
2013-11-28 01:19:55 PM  

Dansker: gfid:There are construction workers a block away hammering and sawing and building more homes.  FFS, I thought they would take the day off today.  I really am sick of all that noise.

They are probably thankful for their income.,


Well put.
 
2013-11-28 01:24:55 PM  
eating.  then, next day, shopping.

it's not that hard.
 
2013-11-28 01:57:09 PM  

EngineerBob: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: What's cool is Hanukkah is happening on Thanksgiving.

The Jews celebrate supplies lasting eight days instead of one, while Americans celebrate food lasting one day instead of eight.

well, it IS eight days if you count leftovers...


Heh, I was going to say... apparently SN has never had turkey for thanksgiving. Leftovers... sandwiches... some sort of casserole...Jesus... I swear, 10 days later it's turkey bone dust soup.
 
2013-11-28 02:04:22 PM  

MooseUpNorth: Relax, Francis. We have thanksgiving too. I'm not being serious. Not very, anyway.


Okay, sometimes I forget this is just Fark.

/ Except about the Black Friday nonsense. That sort of shat is why you guys keep getting stereotyped.

You have a point there.  I avoid shopping on Black Friday unless I'm out of beer and then it's only to buy beer.  Funny thing, the liquor stores never seem to have "door buster" specials on Black Friday.  Those bastards!

Dansker: They are probably thankful for their income.,


They probably are. I'm sure they're not building homes out of the goodness of their hearts.  I'm not saying they're bad, but I was hoping for a break from the noise.  This is what I get for moving into a nice quiet neighborhood on the outskirts of town that was mostly undeveloped at the time.
 
2013-11-28 02:05:50 PM  
Consume


/there you go... one word
 
2013-11-28 02:16:20 PM  

MooseUpNorth: It's pretty simple: it's a holiday where Americans have been conditioned to consume to excess, thinly justified by giving thanks for thoroughly farking over the native population.


And this why your family prefers that you sit at the little folding card table with the kiddies.
 
2013-11-28 02:25:19 PM  

I_Don't_Want_FOP: FTFA:
"Turkeys have little to be thankful for on this day - eating turkey is actually more associated with Thanksgiving than it is Christmas in the States...The same goes for cranberry sauce, brussels sprouts, and pecan pie."

I have never heard of eating brussels sprouts for Thanksgiving--around here, it is more likely to be collard/turnip/mustard greens.

*Does quick internet search, finds lots of recipes for Thanksgiving sprouts*

Well!  You learn something new every day.


Mmmm, tasty, tasty sprouts. With bacon and it's awesome!
 
2013-11-28 02:26:32 PM  

Nytfall: [img.fark.net image 692x389]

Approves


I don't recognize that picture, but that old guy is staring REALLY long and hard at the other guy's junk.

/long and hard
 
2013-11-28 02:28:37 PM  

gfid: mark12A: DA: We're about as interested in Thanksgiving as you lot are in Guy Fawke's Night.

I had a wonderful traditional Guy Fawke's Night visiting farmer friends in Wiltshire a few years back.  Big ass bonfire, fireworks, eating sausage rolls outside the farmhouse. A delightfully English evening.

Maybe you can explain Guy Fawke to us Americans.  Wasn't he the guy who tried to burn down the British government?  Why is he an idol to so many of you?


I wouldn't say he's idolised, but V for Vendetta and the whole anonymous movement have muddied the waters somewhat.
The reason for the bonfires was traditionally to burn effigies of Guy Fawkes. That seems to have died off a bit recently, but bonfires and fireworks are still done.

Then V for Vendetta came along and used the Guy Fawkes image for general anarchy and rebellion against the government. I think these days lots of people associate Fawkes with that general idea rather than the bloke who tried to get a bunch of Catholics into power.
 
2013-11-28 02:30:48 PM  

Oldiron_79: We make bigger gluttons of ourselves than normal on the 4th thursday of Nov and line up to buy crap on sale at the store the next morning.


The stampeding is good for burning off calories.


imfallen_angel: Consume


Which is a good thing in moderation in a sane market.  It is what keeps the economy going.  But the weeks before Christmas are not moderate in the least, and our country's manufacturing sector is anything but sane.
 
2013-11-28 02:35:11 PM  

FloydA: b0rscht: I look forward to the Chicago Tribune article explaining Boxing Day.


Boxing day is the day you respond appropriately to the people who gave you crappy Christmas gifts, obviously.


Thats a bingo
 
2013-11-28 02:51:50 PM  
FTA: More people in the US celebrate Thanksgiving than Chrismtas.


Of course, most of us have never even heard of Chrismtas.
 
2013-11-28 02:57:23 PM  

FloydA: b0rscht: I look forward to the Chicago Tribune article explaining Boxing Day.


Boxing day is the day you respond appropriately to the people who gave you crappy Christmas gifts, obviously.



That's actually not too far off the mark, since lots of people do returns of shiatty gifts on Boxing Day.  The punch to the face is more psychological.
 
2013-11-28 03:15:49 PM  

unyon: FloydA: b0rscht: I look forward to the Chicago Tribune article explaining Boxing Day.


Boxing day is the day you respond appropriately to the people who gave you crappy Christmas gifts, obviously.


That's actually not too far off the mark, since lots of people do returns of shiatty gifts on Boxing Day.   The punch to the face is more psychological.



Not in my house.
 
2013-11-28 03:17:32 PM  
The Macy's Day Parade also keeps many Americans glued to their screens - if they aren't braving this year's windy conditions on the New York streets.

Does no one edit online news any more?  What do they think Macy's Day supposed to be, exactly?
 
2013-11-28 03:21:49 PM  

Haircut2305: Then V for Vendetta came along and used the Guy Fawkes image for general anarchy and rebellion against the government. I think these days lots of people associate Fawkes with that general idea rather than the bloke who tried to get a bunch of Catholics into power.


Whenever I see those people in Guy Fawkes masks, I wonder if someone in Hollywood is getting royalties because most of the masks are direct copies of what was used in the movie.

I know one of things those people hate is the MPAA, so it would be hilarious if they are paying a portion of the cost of the mask to Hollywood to protest them.
 
2013-11-28 03:39:35 PM  

nekom: That cartoon was turrible.  You can't just mention Squanto without mentioning his absolutely AMAZING life.  He wasn't just some injun who walked up out of nowhere, somehow knew English and said "hey, yinz jagoffs need a hand n'at?"


Agreed.  He's the most interesting part of the whole Thanksgiving story.  I personally love that the method of farming he taught the Pilgrims was one he learned watching farmers in England.  Them city slickers were ludicrously unprepared for their new lives.
 
2013-11-28 05:54:51 PM  

TV's Vinnie: MooseUpNorth: It's pretty simple: it's a holiday where Americans have been conditioned to consume to excess, thinly justified by giving thanks for thoroughly farking over the native population.

And this why your family prefers that you sit at the little folding card table with the kiddies.


[pats you on the head]
 
2013-11-28 06:07:32 PM  

Dansker: mark12A: With nice British friends that invite me over every year to crash with them, lend me a horse to foxhunt on

And of course by "foxhunting" you mean riding through the countryside in costumes while not hunting fozes.


You spelled "Fawkeses" wrong.
 
2013-11-28 06:35:09 PM  

gfid: There are construction workers a block away hammering and sawing and building more homes.  FFS, I thought they would take the day off today.  I really am sick of all that noise.


It must not be Mexican Thanksgiving.
 
2013-11-28 07:12:12 PM  

Mr. Ekshun: Dansker: mark12A: With nice British friends that invite me over every year to crash with them, lend me a horse to foxhunt on

And of course by "foxhunting" you mean riding through the countryside in costumes while not hunting fozes.

You spelled "Fawkeses" wrong.


Enough with your word games and misdirection, Mr. Ekshun!  I'm talking about dressed-up upperclass twits riding around frightening the wildlife for no particular reason.
 
2013-11-28 07:12:46 PM  
With nice British friends that invite me over every year to crash with them, lend me a horse to foxhunt on

And of course by "foxhunting" you mean riding through the countryside in costumes while not hunting fozes


Actually, a normal hunt ensues, chasing and occasionally catching a fox with the pack of hounds. We just keep it quiet. The police really don't care. It's the hunt sabs that will try to follow with video cams and try to catch us doing it. They generally fail....
 
2013-11-28 07:21:15 PM  

mark12A:
Actually, a normal hunt ensues, chasing and occasionally catching a fox with the pack of hounds. We just keep it quiet. The police really don't care. It's the hunt sabs that will try to follow with video cams and try to catch us doing it. They generally fail....


So you're an asshole and a criminal. What did foxes ever do to you?
 
2013-11-29 08:56:26 AM  

gfid: mark12A: DA: We're about as interested in Thanksgiving as you lot are in Guy Fawke's Night.

I had a wonderful traditional Guy Fawke's Night visiting farmer friends in Wiltshire a few years back.  Big ass bonfire, fireworks, eating sausage rolls outside the farmhouse. A delightfully English evening.

Maybe you can explain Guy Fawke to us Americans.  Wasn't he the guy who tried to burn down the British government?  Why is he an idol to so many of you?


That's like asking if the 4th of July is idolizing the British attempt to subjugate the colonies. You've got the holiday backward. 4th of July is a much more fitting parallel to Guy Fawkes Day, too.

Thanksgiving, on the other hand, is practically identical to American Christmas without the gift-giving now. That's a parallel Brits would instantly understand, although they might not know why we need to do it again a month before. Hell if I know why either, but we're such workaholics that we pretty much need extra time off by the end of the year.

Boxing Day's US name is Returns Day. We might as well call it Boxing Day, because it's all about boxing everything back up...
 
2013-11-29 08:59:08 AM  

foxyshadis: practically identical to American Christmas


Further research required....
 
2013-11-29 12:21:56 PM  
foxyshadis:
Thanksgiving, on the other hand, is practically identical to American Christmas without the gift-giving now. That's a parallel Brits would instantly understand, although they might not know why we need to do it again a month before.

Ran out of leftovers.  Obviously.
 
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