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(Guardian)   The results are in, and we have a clear winner for the prize of "dumbest headline you'll ever read"   (theguardian.com) divider line 97
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2013-11-28 10:34:55 AM
Because suspension of disbelief?
 
2013-11-28 10:52:10 AM
When did the Guardian start reprinting content from The Onion?
 
2013-11-28 11:00:19 AM
Perhaps its simply because it doesn't assert itself as being true.

No, it couldn't possibly be that.
 
2013-11-28 11:05:43 AM
In the comments of TFA people are having an interesting, thoughtful, and reasoned discussion...I honestly don't think I have ever seen that before.
 
2013-11-28 11:09:54 AM
stoppedreadingthere.jpg
 
2013-11-28 11:12:49 AM
Ok

/but what about the one on the article?
//that's pretty dumb, too
 
2013-11-28 11:13:04 AM
If you don't believe in the literal truth of [insert fictitious story here] you will burn for eternity, also we won't feel bad about murdering you.
 
2013-11-28 11:13:11 AM
Because The Doctor isn't a supernatural dick?
 
2013-11-28 11:13:46 AM
Doctor Who is for nerds.  True, die-hard, never got laid, sit at home alone on prom night nerds.  It's incredibly boring, has terrible special effects, painful dialogue, and a storyline more convoluted than a Mexican telenovella.  I'd rather rather watch 3-2-1 Contact! backwards than watch Doctor Who.

Who's with me?
 
2013-11-28 11:16:28 AM
Because one is science fiction and the other is dr who
 
2013-11-28 11:16:45 AM
I loled
 
2013-11-28 11:17:29 AM
Well, you'd have to be a TFer, but I'm pretty sure I've submitted more than a few that would probably be in the running.

Oh, and...

Because People in power are Stupid: Because suspension of disbelief?


Barfmaker: Perhaps its simply because it doesn't assert itself as being true.

No, it couldn't possibly be that.


These.
 
2013-11-28 11:18:03 AM
Deus Homo?

NTTAWWT.
 
2013-11-28 11:18:36 AM
Not only the dumbest headline I've ever read but one of the dumbest articles I've ever read.  Double your displeasure, double your unfun.
 
2013-11-28 11:19:13 AM
Because The Doctor is presented as a semi-competent technician with a universe generator, not an omnipotent overlord interested in our daily affairs.

Srsly, The Doctor (lessened by thy name) created this universe in the process of encapsulating his home world in order to prevent his people from committing crimes against time-space. It's a theology that works more potently than the one in the bible because it give a how and why as to the creation.
 
2013-11-28 11:20:43 AM

cman: When did the Guardian start reprinting content from The Onion Telegraph?


FTFY

I figured the Guardian must have been trying to capture some of the angry conservative readership.
 
2013-11-28 11:22:27 AM

pagansexgod: Because one is science fiction and the other is dr who


The bible is Fantasy not Science Fiction.
 
2013-11-28 11:22:27 AM
Shut Up, he explained....
 
2013-11-28 11:24:18 AM
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2013-11-28 11:25:00 AM
The Bible doesn't escape criticism. Stupid people still believe what's written there but that's another matter.
 
2013-11-28 11:25:00 AM
Goddamn the mobile app can't HTML worth a poop.
 
2013-11-28 11:25:30 AM
"how Doctor Who slips under the radar of contemporary scepticism in a way that Christianity doesn't. Perhaps its simply because it doesn't assert itself as being true. "

Perhaps because one is being sold as science fiction and the other is being sold as faithful fact?

Sheesh, it's not just the headline.  The entire article - absurd.
 
2013-11-28 11:26:23 AM
Because Doctor Who doesn't cover up child rape, bank for the Mafia or run the Magdalen Laundries?

/go on...
 
2013-11-28 11:26:27 AM

pagansexgod: Because one is science fiction and the other is dr who


I mentioned this before:  if you read in the last chapter of John, even Mary doesn't recognize Jesus right away after his resurrection.  It's because he didn't resurrect.  He regenerated.

Next time I'm in church and they tell us to rise to sing hymn #314159, I'll start whistling the theme to Doctor Who.

Also:  this article was from 1 week ago.  Just sayin'...
 
2013-11-28 11:26:44 AM
I don't see why any skeptic would have a problem with Dr. Who.  There is plenty of hard, concrete and reproducible evidence that a group of people do in fact produce a science fiction/fantasy TV series and ancillary products tied to a fictional character called Dr. Who. We can still even talk to many of the primary sources spread across the entire endeavor.
 
2013-11-28 11:27:27 AM
<  Point

All y'all  >

What he is saying is that the verity of the story details do not matter in either case, and he is right. They point to and inspire something deeper and larger, and there they are similar.
 
2013-11-28 11:31:08 AM
Zygons as the main protagonist for the 50th Anniversary special?

That is the dumbest thing I'll ever read.

Moffat is going senile, or on crack, or something.
 
2013-11-28 11:31:37 AM

barefoot in the head: <  Point

All y'all  >

What he is saying is that the verity of the story details do not matter in either case, and he is right. They point to and inspire something deeper and larger, and there they are similar.


Except that that's utter bullshiat. Christians actually believe that Christ was the son of God and that he rose from the dead and ascended into heaven. That's not metaphor, or meant to inspire something bigger, it's what they believe literally happened.
 
2013-11-28 11:31:46 AM

nickdaisy: Doctor Who is for nerds.  True, die-hard, never got laid, sit at home alone on prom night nerds.  It's incredibly boring, has terrible special effects, painful dialogue, and a storyline more convoluted than a Mexican telenovella.  I'd rather rather watch 3-2-1 Contact! backwards than watch Doctor Who.

Who's with me?


Amen Brother

Let this current wave of Dr. Who popularity be washed away. So that we don't have to fake liking it while talking to that nerdy barista we are trying to Fark.
 
rpm
2013-11-28 11:32:29 AM

barefoot in the head: What he is saying is that the verity of the story details do not matter in either case, and he is right. They point to and inspire something deeper and larger, and there they are similar.


I don't see any laws being passed because of Dr. Who.
 
2013-11-28 11:32:29 AM

wildcardjack: Because The Doctor is presented as a semi-competent technician with a universe generator, not an omnipotent overlord interested in our daily affairs.


And he doesn't require you to give up sex, and he doesn't care if you're gay, and he doesn't expect you to believe that the universe is only 6,000 years old.

(Actually, that last is an upcoming story arc, but don't worry, they fix it.)
 
2013-11-28 11:34:55 AM

pagansexgod: Because one is science fiction and the other is dr who


I'd put in in the fantasy genre unless it really is about ancient aliens.
 
2013-11-28 11:37:18 AM

Barfmaker: In the comments of TFA people are having an interesting, thoughtful, and reasoned discussion...I honestly don't think I have ever seen that before.


Holy shiat you're right!

Barfmaker: Perhaps its simply because it doesn't assert itself as being true.

No, it couldn't possibly be that.


Also, this.

barefoot in the head: <  Point

All y'all  >

What he is saying is that the verity of the story details do not matter in either case, and he is right. They point to and inspire something deeper and larger, and there they are similar.


When people start claiming the events of Doctor Who actually happened, you might have a point.
 
2013-11-28 11:37:40 AM

Barfmaker: In the comments of TFA people are having an interesting, thoughtful, and reasoned discussion...I honestly don't think I have ever seen that before.


The Guardian is the newspaper of what Auberon Waugh calls "the chattering classes":  liberals, intellectuals, leftists, professors, social workers, teachers, historians, etc. This is the one class of society that is interested, thoughtful, and reasoned, if any of them are. They love to politely debate things they agree on at dinner parties, wine tastings, and over cocktails.

Many of the trolls on the Internet are people that nobody had to listen to before the invention of the Internet. Bores, cranks, loonies, political extremists, shut-ins, autistic children, Libertarians, hillbillies, barstool bullies, your Crazy Aunt Sally, your grandpa, etc.

It may surprise some, but the readers of the Wall Street Journal are just opinionated white trash writ large. Most serious scientific sites are over-run by cranks and denialists and creationists. Most serious newspapers are battlezones for partisans. But The Guardian escapes because it emits a deadly gas that kills right-wingers and just plain stupid people. To be sure, even Guardian readers realize that there is a lot of nonsense written, and that some of it finds its way into The Gruniad. Most of them are professional writers or editors or thinkers of some sort themselves: THEY KNOW THAT A LOT OF NONSENSE IS WRITTEN. Many of them have read Bouvard et Pécuchet in the original French.
 
2013-11-28 11:38:32 AM
It's the British accent.
 
2013-11-28 11:38:57 AM
England, please stop using the term "telly" its sounds stupid.

Again, please stop.
 
2013-11-28 11:40:47 AM
I want to be a Dalek when I grow up.
 
2013-11-28 11:41:57 AM
You have to give the copy editor +1 for turning a stupid article into clickbait gold.
 
2013-11-28 11:42:00 AM

xanadian: pagansexgod: Because one is science fiction and the other is dr who

I mentioned this before:  if you read in the last chapter of John, even Mary doesn't recognize Jesus right away after his resurrection.  It's because he didn't resurrect.  He regenerated.

Next time I'm in church and they tell us to rise to sing hymn #314159, I'll start whistling the theme to Doctor Who.

Also:  this article was from 1 week ago.  Just sayin'...


Actually, you may be on to something here...over the course of an episode, The Doctor gets stabbed in the side, suffers injuries to his wrists and ankles, puncture wounds on his scalp, gets stuck in a timey-wimey ball that causes his beard and hair to grow at an accelerated rate, his clothes are burned off or damaged and all he can find to replace them is a white sheet...

Then the TARDIS ends up materialising in a cave somewhere in Judea about 28AD, The Doctor stumbles out the door and out of the cave mouth, and every fundamentalist viewer starts writing angry letters.
 
2013-11-28 11:42:23 AM
I thought Lord of The Rings was about as historically accurate as the bible.
 
2013-11-28 11:42:46 AM
Correction: Grauniad rather than Gruniad. The name was originated by Private Eye. When the paper was printed with hot metal type, the London edition was often poorly edited because it was sent down by train from Manchester before the errors could be spotted. So this is a footnote correcting a typo and now a footnote about historical typos. Ironic, n'est-ce-pas?
 
2013-11-28 11:43:44 AM
But what I am fascinated by is how Doctor Who slips under the radar of contemporary scepticism in a way that Christianity doesn't. Perhaps its simply because it doesn't assert itself as being true. Or perhaps it doesn't have genocidal followers of its own, as Christianity and other religious traditions obviously have had, and continue to have.

So. He answered his own question.

Those three lines are the only non-drivel in the whole article, and they are so obvious that it's excruciating. [ See what I did there, Giles? ]
 
2013-11-28 11:48:17 AM

LarryDan43: I thought Lord of The Rings was about as historically accurate as the bible.


More, probably, at least in terms of consistency.
 
2013-11-28 11:49:07 AM
Doctor Who is much better written and has more compelling characters.
 
SH
2013-11-28 11:49:14 AM
Thread over from a comment in the other thread on TFA page:

>Because Doctor Who doesn't pretend to be real.
 
2013-11-28 11:50:15 AM
It's actually a good question, for Sci-Fi rather than theological reasons.

Here in the US, Dr. Who has always had a devoted following that regarded the show as an intensely deep and cerebral exercise, even though the show often has a plot and dialog on par with the average G.I. Joe cartoon.  It's worth asking why Dr. Who seems to get a pass among among its adherents for rinky-dink writing, and why it is often so elevated above other shows in the same category.
 
2013-11-28 11:50:40 AM
This week I went to the cinema to see Gravity... a reflection on the unbearable lightness of being and our need for weight, for a gravity that pulls us towards each other and the Earth in all its beauty.

It may be just me, but I think he completely missed the point of this movie as well.
 
2013-11-28 11:52:23 AM

Xcott: It's actually a good question, for Sci-Fi rather than theological reasons.

Here in the US, Dr. Who has always had a devoted following that regarded the show as an intensely deep and cerebral exercise, even though the show often has a plot and dialog on par with the average G.I. Joe cartoon.  It's worth asking why Dr. Who seems to get a pass among among its adherents for rinky-dink writing, and why it is often so elevated above other shows in the same category.


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2013-11-28 11:52:34 AM

Because People in power are Stupid: Because suspension of disbelief?


Plain and simple:  marketing.
 
2013-11-28 11:54:03 AM

LarryDan43: I thought Lord of The Rings was about as historically accurate as tfarmedfarmed


Lord Of the Rings is just Farked over, warmed up Ring of the Niebelung
 
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