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(Baltimore Sun)   Joe Flacco says Ravens' use of the wildcat offense makes it look like a "high school team". Or, as the Houston Texans fans would call that, an immediate improvement   (articles.baltimoresun.com) divider line 24
    More: Obvious, Joe Flacco, wildcat formation, Texans, safety blitz, Cam Cameron, Tyrod Taylor, Super Bowl XLVII, scrimmage line  
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2013-11-28 08:39:05 AM  
Wow, pouting ego much?

Sounds like someone thinks winning one Super Bowl and getting a big contract makes him too Elite™ to do things like experiment on offense. I'm sure that's exactly the mindset the Ravens need to get ahead. Stick to your guns, Joe.
 
2013-11-28 10:10:38 AM  

whistleridge: Wow, pouting ego much?

Sounds like someone thinks winning one Super Bowl and getting a big contract makes him too Elite™ to do things like experiment on offense. I'm sure that's exactly the mindset the Ravens need to get ahead. Stick to your guns, Joe.


Much like his, "I think I'm elite," statement from last year, would you want your quarterback to think anything other than the team's best bet for winning is having him contribute?

Or do you think the quarterback (or running back, or free saftey) should have the mindset that he's not the best guy for the job?
 
2013-11-28 10:25:35 AM  

Gecko Gingrich: whistleridge: Wow, pouting ego much?

Sounds like someone thinks winning one Super Bowl and getting a big contract makes him too Elite™ to do things like experiment on offense. I'm sure that's exactly the mindset the Ravens need to get ahead. Stick to your guns, Joe.

Much like his, "I think I'm elite," statement from last year, would you want your quarterback to think anything other than the team's best bet for winning is having him contribute?

Or do you think the quarterback (or running back, or free saftey) should have the mindset that he's not the best guy for the job?


There's a difference between "I am the best" and "I do the best job".

/never compliment on a child on being anything
//compliment them on doing something
 
2013-11-28 10:33:50 AM  
He's right, running the wildcat just for the sake of it is idiotic and counter productive. Just take him off the field completely next time you want to do a direct snap run.
 
2013-11-28 10:34:10 AM  

FrancoFile: Gecko Gingrich: whistleridge: Wow, pouting ego much?

Sounds like someone thinks winning one Super Bowl and getting a big contract makes him too Elite™ to do things like experiment on offense. I'm sure that's exactly the mindset the Ravens need to get ahead. Stick to your guns, Joe.

Much like his, "I think I'm elite," statement from last year, would you want your quarterback to think anything other than the team's best bet for winning is having him contribute?

Or do you think the quarterback (or running back, or free saftey) should have the mindset that he's not the best guy for the job?

There's a difference between "I am the best" and "I do the best job".

/never compliment on a child on being anything
//compliment them on doing something


Like winning a Superb Owl with an underdog team?
 
2013-11-28 10:39:57 AM  

elguerodiablo: FrancoFile: Gecko Gingrich: whistleridge: Wow, pouting ego much?

Sounds like someone thinks winning one Super Bowl and getting a big contract makes him too Elite™ to do things like experiment on offense. I'm sure that's exactly the mindset the Ravens need to get ahead. Stick to your guns, Joe.

Much like his, "I think I'm elite," statement from last year, would you want your quarterback to think anything other than the team's best bet for winning is having him contribute?

Or do you think the quarterback (or running back, or free saftey) should have the mindset that he's not the best guy for the job?

There's a difference between "I am the best" and "I do the best job".

/never compliment on a child on being anything
//compliment them on doing something

Like winning a Superb Owl with an underdog team?


Yes.  But his argument should be "I ***did*** lots of stuff that helped us win that trophy.  And I am continuing to ***do*** those things this season."

Unfortunately, he can't make that argument, because he isn't doing those things this season.
 
2013-11-28 10:50:47 AM  

FrancoFile: Yes.  But his argument should be "I ***did*** lots of stuff that helped us win that trophy.  And I am continuing to ***do*** those things this season."

Unfortunately, he can't make that argument, because he isn't doing those things this season.


That's how I feel about it. I'm a Ravens fan, but I have never really been a Flacco supporter. I just don't think he is that good. He has a strong arm for sure, and he certainly did a lot last year when it mattered and ended up winning it all. But when you look at his career, the playoff run last year was an outlier. That is the absolute best he will ever be, and that will only happen on rare occasion. It certainly won't always happen at the right time like it did last year. In the meantime, the offense needs to find ways to win.

His contract is a sad, sad, joke.
 
2013-11-28 10:57:31 AM  

FrancoFile: elguerodiablo: FrancoFile: Gecko Gingrich: whistleridge: Wow, pouting ego much?

Sounds like someone thinks winning one Super Bowl and getting a big contract makes him too Elite™ to do things like experiment on offense. I'm sure that's exactly the mindset the Ravens need to get ahead. Stick to your guns, Joe.

Much like his, "I think I'm elite," statement from last year, would you want your quarterback to think anything other than the team's best bet for winning is having him contribute?

Or do you think the quarterback (or running back, or free saftey) should have the mindset that he's not the best guy for the job?

There's a difference between "I am the best" and "I do the best job".

/never compliment on a child on being anything
//compliment them on doing something

Like winning a Superb Owl with an underdog team?

Yes.  But his argument should be "I ***did*** lots of stuff that helped us win that trophy.  And I am continuing to ***do*** those things this season."

Unfortunately, he can't make that argument, because he isn't doing those things this season.


Well if you were the Ravens, would you pin your offensive hopes on Flacco, your 2.8 YPC backfield, or 5 plays to your backup QB that generated 7 yards?

I love to mock the Ravens and smack Flacco around for being an overpaid, above average QB who rode a hot streak to the SB (probably one of the best postseasons every in his defense), but he's absolutely right. It really isn't even a debate.
 
2013-11-28 10:59:14 AM  
There's a Houston Texan fan?
 
2013-11-28 11:08:21 AM  

WinoRhino: FrancoFile: Yes.  But his argument should be "I ***did*** lots of stuff that helped us win that trophy.  And I am continuing to ***do*** those things this season."

Unfortunately, he can't make that argument, because he isn't doing those things this season.

That's how I feel about it. I'm a Ravens fan, but I have never really been a Flacco supporter. I just don't think he is that good. He has a strong arm for sure, and he certainly did a lot last year when it mattered and ended up winning it all. But when you look at his career, the playoff run last year was an outlier. That is the absolute best he will ever be, and that will only happen on rare occasion. It certainly won't always happen at the right time like it did last year. In the meantime, the offense needs to find ways to win.

His contract is a sad, sad, joke.


That dude cashed in at the right time.  He is, at best, a moderately above average QB who got hot at just the right time.  I think the Ravens threw money at him because they were worried he would go to Cleveland with a sixty gazillion dollar contract and then continue his streak.  That would have embarrassed the hell out of the team.  It is interesting, though, as the new wave of QB negotiations begin, I think Flacco and Ryan's mega-contracts are going to allow GMs to say: look guys, we can give you tons of money and then you can play for a losing team, because we've not got the money for anyone else.

I will be very interested in the Kaep negotiations this offseason: will the 49ers use this season as an example of him not needing a big contract?  He doesn't strike me as the sort of guy who will want to enter into that discussion.

\as a Seahawks fan, I say: go Kaep, sink 'em for every dollar!
\\Joe Flacco=Dexter Jackson
 
2013-11-28 11:30:59 AM  
For a while I've thought Joe Flacco is the AFC's Eli Manning. At the top of their game they both are very capable QBs. Elite even. They aren't consistent though. They can string a few games together of high level play but an MVP season isn't going to happen. We have proof they can be dangerous in the playoffs but neither one can carry the team to the playoffs annually like Peyton, Brees, or Brady.

The important thing is that most teams would love to have an above average QB who can turn it up to eleven for the playoffs every few years.
 
2013-11-28 11:39:48 AM  
neither one can carry the team to the playoffs annually

Lolwut.jpg
 
2013-11-28 11:59:23 AM  

whistleridge: Wow, pouting ego much?


He says what pretty much every other QB in the league thinks, but is either too scared or too smart to say out loud.
 
2013-11-28 12:05:13 PM  

Harv72b: whistleridge: Wow, pouting ego much?

He says what pretty much every other QB in the league thinks, but is either too scared or too smart to say out loud.


Saying the Wildcat is silly is fine. Saying you don't think it's a smart use of resources is fine.
Saying you think it's a slap in the face, and maybe the offense should focus less on gimmicks and more on fundamentals is fine.

Refusing to run the play when it's called or to do your part is a dick move. No different from Randy Moss refusing to run hard for whatever reason.
 
2013-11-28 12:21:54 PM  

powdah: neither one can carry the team to the playoffs annually

Lolwut.jpg


If anything the Ravens defense and running game carried Flacco to the playoffs the past several years. Meanwhile the Giants only earn a spot every other year or so. Neither team has produced a great scoring offense with Flacco or Eli. And furthermore, etc.
 
2013-11-28 12:28:48 PM  

OooShiny: There's a Houston Texan fan?


Yes.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-11-28 12:34:12 PM  

MyEnamine: powdah: neither one can carry the team to the playoffs annually

Lolwut.jpg

If anything the Ravens defense and running game carried Flacco to the playoffs the past several years. Meanwhile the Giants only earn a spot every other year or so. Neither team has produced a great scoring offense with Flacco or Eli. And furthermore, etc.


I'd agree about the ravens since 2010. 2008 / 2009... Not so much.
 
2013-11-28 12:57:47 PM  

NEDM: OooShiny: There's a Houston Texan fan?

Yes.

[i.imgur.com image 425x282]


You need a bigger bottle
 
2013-11-28 01:16:33 PM  

MyEnamine: We have proof they can be dangerous in the playoffs but neither one can carry the team to the playoffs annually like Peyton, Brees, or Brady.


Other than the fact that he has made it to the playoffs every year of his career.  100% success rate on that standard of measure, that sounds pretty good to me, and still have a shot this year, today's game will probably be the deciding factor.

Is he overpaid, sure, but argument can be made now for Romo and Matty Ice, I still would rather have Flacco under center than the other two.  Matt Ryan seems to have a choke factor that Flacco doesn't, and Romo suffers from Jekyll/Hide disease.

Wait until some other contracts for 'elite' QB's come up in the next couple of years and those will dwarf Flacco's.  Its just like baseball, every year there is a new "largest contract ever"

Raven's are in a rebuilding year, and to make the playoffs during rebuilding is still a success.

my football xmas wish is to get an O-line for next year so we can get back to the bread-and-butter offense.

Run, Run, Run, Run, Play-action for 60 yds, Run, Run, Run
 
2013-11-28 02:00:21 PM  

Hyjamon: MyEnamine: We have proof they can be dangerous in the playoffs but neither one can carry the team to the playoffs annually like Peyton, Brees, or Brady.

Other than the fact that he has made it to the playoffs every year of his career.  100% success rate on that standard of measure, that sounds pretty good to me, and still have a shot this year, today's game will probably be the deciding factor.


Has been in =/= carry
 
2013-11-28 07:16:39 PM  

whistleridge: Harv72b: whistleridge: Wow, pouting ego much?

He says what pretty much every other QB in the league thinks, but is either too scared or too smart to say out loud.

Saying the Wildcat is silly is fine. Saying you don't think it's a smart use of resources is fine.
Saying you think it's a slap in the face, and maybe the offense should focus less on gimmicks and more on fundamentals is fine.

Refusing to run the play when it's called or to do your part is a dick move. No different from Randy Moss refusing to run hard for whatever reason.


Here's the thing: THAT IS WHAT HE SAID. Except he specifically said he DIDN'T think it was a slap in the face. In fact, if you watch the press conference you see that someone asked him what he was supposed to do when he split out wide. THAT is when he said "I'm not doing anything". Here is a clip. It's right at the end, but I suggest you watch the whole thing because he covers all of the stuff you are talking about.

In that clip he says that he is not going to not do what he is asked to do and that he will do whatever he can do to make the play successful. He's not refusing to do what is asked, he is saying that he is told to do nothing when he is out there. And to be honest why would they ask him to do something when he is, for better or for worse, their franchise QB for the foreseeable future?
 
2013-11-28 08:30:28 PM  
Hyjamon:
Raven's are in a rebuilding year, and to make the playoffs during rebuilding is still a success.

my football xmas wish is to get an O-line for next year so we can get back to the bread-and-butter offense.
Run, Run, Run, Run, Play-action for 60 yds, Run, Run, Run


The big surprise about the Ravens offense this year is the ongoing train wreck that is their offensive line.
The wildcat should have been pulled out for the Chicago game, when some exotic run options could have led to big plays, so seeing it at home seemed an odd choice.
 
2013-11-28 09:52:06 PM  
Doesn't flacco qb the ravens into the playoffs every year? Certainly more often than brees.
 
2013-11-29 12:33:08 AM  

Lost Thought 00: He's right, running the wildcat just for the sake of it is idiotic and counter productive. Just take him off the field completely next time you want to do a direct snap run.


I despise the Wildcat. It's brought us nothing but vintage 2009 results - bland with a strong aftertaste of bitter.
 
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