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2013-11-28 10:11:01 AM
Good.  Maybe this'll prevent some kids from getting asthma.
 
2013-11-28 10:49:40 AM
Can a whole state be nominated for a Darwin Award?
 
2013-11-28 10:50:40 AM
I used to repo houses. If there was a smoker in the house, I would also find spent albuterol capsules or other asthma treatment paraphenalia in the kids' bedrooms.
/csb
 
2013-11-28 10:53:34 AM
They have the same law here in Nova Scotia.  It's really strange to see people standing outside of their car having a smoke in mid January when it's -20 and windy.  At least the drivers in Florida won't have that problem.
 
2013-11-28 10:55:43 AM
It's already a law in California.  I remember it showing up on the written portion of the driver's license exam that the make newcomers to the state take.
 
2013-11-28 11:00:42 AM
It just keeps getting better.
 
WGJ
2013-11-28 11:03:05 AM
I liked it when dad lit up a cigarette when we were driving, I thought it smelled good.
 
2013-11-28 11:07:34 AM
The thread in which filling your captive child's lungs with carcinogens is argued to be a freedom...
 
2013-11-28 11:08:32 AM
1-media-cdn.foolz.us
 
2013-11-28 11:09:36 AM
I still remember my dad rushing to finish a cigarette in the Blazer as I hacked and wheezed because no one understood my allergy to the ammonia sulfate preservative in white bread. Dough conditioner my ass.
 
2013-11-28 11:11:27 AM
If they smoke in their cars, I bet they smoke in their homes too.

And what about fourth hand smoke?
http://tobaccoanalysis.blogspot.com/2010/11/article-warns-of-dangers -o f-fourth-hand.html
 "smoke exposure resulting from being in the presence of someone who themselves was in the presence of a smoker. "
Or Fifth hand smoke?
http://smokles.wordpress.com/2010/07/05/smoking-in-the-movies-5th-ha nd -smoke/
 
2013-11-28 11:14:46 AM
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2013-11-28 11:17:56 AM
Everyone born the the 60's or before should be dead from second hand smoke now.
 
2013-11-28 11:18:01 AM
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2013-11-28 11:18:29 AM
How the hell can  anyone have a problem with this?
 
2013-11-28 11:20:31 AM
My parents are going to jail.

Well, they could anytime I decide to rat them out.

My Father smoked a pipe and sometimes cigarettes when nervous. We hated it. Even with the window open to suck as much smoke out as possible, you still choked on it. I remember eating in dive restaurants where the smoke was so thick my fish and chips tasted like an ashtray and visibility resembled the Great Smog of London. People smoked every where and their attitude was far from apologetic if you had asthma and were literally dying at the next table.

We were left in the car (without AC but with the windows cracked). You couldn't even do that with a dog nowadays. The temperature was easily over 100F and I remember putting my nose to the crack of fresh cool parking lot air to survive. And the poor dog. He may have had it worse because he was ALWAYS left in the car. A lot of stupid people wouldn't crack the windows even. How many people and pets had to die for them to clue in?

And in a thousand different ways, my parents failed as helicopter parents, letting us play outdoors and wander off on our own in stores and malls and so forth. I wandered off from school and home into the woods that were only a stone's throw away. Once or twice I didn't hear the bell calling the pupils back to class and only realized I had missed class the next day when they talked about things I didn't remember. Fortunately I was the teacher's pet and my Father was well-respected management so I didn't get punished where some of the more defiant working class kids would have gotten the strap or detention.

Also, everything my Mother fed us is now a deadly poison. We had so many steaks one year when my Father had the side of beef that he purchased for winter cut into too many steaks and not enough hamburger, that I got sick of having steak. A hotdog would have been a nice change.

NOT STEAK AGAIN!

My parents insisted we eat what was set before us, which is now a crime punishable by the International Court of Justice in The Hague. This did not work and they gave it up for the grandchildren. Also, it is now considered a good way to make your children obese and insane.

And don't even think about toys. I had a chemistry set with deadly poisons in it, a wood-burning kit, and good only knows how many other toys that were not recommended for children. You remember lawn darts--not the plastic tipped stuff they have know, deadly, eye-gouging lawn darts with metal tips? Even the kids were scared of them in the wrong hands. And they were always in the wrong hands.

I can hear Kevin Mooney's impression of his Mother in my head: BE CAREFUL WITH THOSE LAWN DARTS. YOU'LL PUT AN EYE OUT! ARE YOU CRAZY? I THINK THIS KID MUST BE ON GOOF-BALLS!

In my day, children weren't having fun if they weren't being warned about losing an eye or drowning. Our eye patches helped to stave off global warming until we reached college age. Then it hit with a vengeance until the Somalis turned pirate after their fishing grounds were looted. The Flying Spaghetti Monster be praised I had glasses or else I would have lost an eye any number of times, although most likely, twice.
 
2013-11-28 11:21:57 AM
I enjoy a puff on a cigar or pipe, but not in the house or car, or around other people in confined spaces.  Learned those lessons a long time ago.  Last car I bought had neither a lighter, nor an ashtray.

/bought it in Florida, too!
 
2013-11-28 11:24:14 AM
Florida may not be that dumb after all.
 
2013-11-28 11:25:22 AM
Next thing you know is that they will ban manufacturing meth and crack in your home if kids are there. I suppose doing a joint while driving with kids is out of the question too? I guess for the children's  sake the only safe thing will be some kind of pills. Think of the children.
 
2013-11-28 11:27:24 AM

Kyle Butler: Everyone born the the 60's or before should be dead from second hand smoke now.


i1.ytimg.com

CARCINOGENIC COMPOUNDS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY!

Good night!
 
2013-11-28 11:30:46 AM

brantgoose: My parents are going to jail.

Well, they could anytime I decide to rat them out.

My Father smoked a pipe and sometimes cigarettes when nervous. We hated it. Even with the window open to suck as much smoke out as possible, you still choked on it. I remember eating in dive restaurants where the smoke was so thick my fish and chips tasted like an ashtray and visibility resembled the Great Smog of London. People smoked every where and their attitude was far from apologetic if you had asthma and were literally dying at the next table.

We were left in the car (without AC but with the windows cracked). You couldn't even do that with a dog nowadays. The temperature was easily over 100F and I remember putting my nose to the crack of fresh cool parking lot air to survive. And the poor dog. He may have had it worse because he was ALWAYS left in the car. A lot of stupid people wouldn't crack the windows even. How many people and pets had to die for them to clue in?

And in a thousand different ways, my parents failed as helicopter parents, letting us play outdoors and wander off on our own in stores and malls and so forth. I wandered off from school and home into the woods that were only a stone's throw away. Once or twice I didn't hear the bell calling the pupils back to class and only realized I had missed class the next day when they talked about things I didn't remember. Fortunately I was the teacher's pet and my Father was well-respected management so I didn't get punished where some of the more defiant working class kids would have gotten the strap or detention.

Also, everything my Mother fed us is now a deadly poison. We had so many steaks one year when my Father had the side of beef that he purchased for winter cut into too many steaks and not enough hamburger, that I got sick of having steak. A hotdog would have been a nice change.

NOT STEAK AGAIN!

My parents insisted we eat what was set before us, which is now a crime punishable by the International Court of Jus ...


yeah I'm an old fart and we led dangerous ,deadly lives back then. It's how we learned about the real world. Cars didn't have seat belts. No one wore a helmet or pads when riding a bike or skateboard. we swam in snake infested creeks. we climbed trees. we rode dirt bike motorcycles. we built hot rods and drove at breakneck speeds once we were old enough. our lives was were almost like Jackass the movie.
 
2013-11-28 11:30:58 AM
As per article, "So if a child was over 18 maybe they can make decision"

I'm so glad us over 18 children were represented in this debate.  I'm 37, yet I declared myself to be 11, somedays my wife agrees.

MI is also working on this same bill.

Spirit Hammer: If they smoke in their cars, I bet they smoke in their homes too.



Most likely, but houses don't hotbox the same as a car.  I saw a lady on day driving with her hand outside the window of her car holding her cigarette.  Doesn't sound odd, except the window was only open enough to allow her hand to stick out, she would pull it in to take a puff then stick it back out, because her kid was in the car.  I don't think she really understands how smoking works and how to limit the smoke exposure.
 
2013-11-28 11:31:13 AM

skozlaw: Kyle Butler: Everyone born the the 60's or before should be dead from second hand smoke now.

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CARCINOGENIC COMPOUNDS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY!

Good night!


Ah,but that's how they want you to think they do. And the thought police are in solid federation with the nicotine nannies.
 
2013-11-28 11:37:34 AM

Spirit Hammer: If they smoke in their cars, I bet they smoke in their homes too.

And what about fourth hand smoke?
http://tobaccoanalysis.blogspot.com/2010/11/article-warns-of-dangers -o f-fourth-hand.html
 "smoke exposure resulting from being in the presence of someone who themselves was in the presence of a smoker. "
Or Fifth hand smoke?
http://smokles.wordpress.com/2010/07/05/smoking-in-the-movies-5th-ha nd -smoke/


What's next? Sixth hand smoke, from someone carrying unlit cigarettes. Seventh hand smoke, from someone who works in a convenience store and sells cigarettes, Eighth hand smoke (fill in your own ridiculous scenario here)...
 
2013-11-28 11:38:37 AM

Kyle Butler: Everyone born the the 60's or before should be dead from second hand smoke now.


Go look up the stats on cancer and lung disease in relation to smoking then get back to us you complete tool. I guarantee you'll know someone that dies from this some day.
 
2013-11-28 11:39:06 AM

Meethos: How the hell can  anyone have a problem with this?


They are addicted to cigarettes and want to keep smoking with the kids in the car?
 
2013-11-28 11:42:42 AM
Psiman42: Spirit Hammer: If they smoke in their cars, I bet they smoke in their homes too.

And what about fourth hand smoke?
http://tobaccoanalysis.blogspot.com/2010/11/article-warns-of-dangers -o f-fourth-hand.html
 "smoke exposure resulting from being in the presence of someone who themselves was in the presence of a smoker. "
Or Fifth hand smoke?
http://smokles.wordpress.com/2010/07/05/smoking-in-the-movies-5th-ha nd -smoke/

What's next? Sixth hand smoke, from someone carrying unlit cigarettes. Seventh hand smoke, from someone who works in a convenience store and sells cigarettes, Eighth hand smoke (Seen an ad for cigarettes on TV as a child)...
 
2013-11-28 11:44:40 AM
I remember when smoking got banned in clubs and bars in NYC. Quite a few people opined that the smoke smelled better than the sweat, urine, and vomit they now had to endure.
 
2013-11-28 11:46:08 AM
so smoking while parked will be okay then right?
 
2013-11-28 11:54:53 AM

Hobodeluxe: brantgoose: My parents are going to jail.

Well, they could anytime I decide to rat them out.

My Father smoked a pipe and sometimes cigarettes when nervous. We hated it. Even with the window open to suck as much smoke out as possible, you still choked on it. I remember eating in dive restaurants where the smoke was so thick my fish and chips tasted like an ashtray and visibility resembled the Great Smog of London. People smoked every where and their attitude was far from apologetic if you had asthma and were literally dying at the next table.

We were left in the car (without AC but with the windows cracked). You couldn't even do that with a dog nowadays. The temperature was easily over 100F and I remember putting my nose to the crack of fresh cool parking lot air to survive. And the poor dog. He may have had it worse because he was ALWAYS left in the car. A lot of stupid people wouldn't crack the windows even. How many people and pets had to die for them to clue in?

And in a thousand different ways, my parents failed as helicopter parents, letting us play outdoors and wander off on our own in stores and malls and so forth. I wandered off from school and home into the woods that were only a stone's throw away. Once or twice I didn't hear the bell calling the pupils back to class and only realized I had missed class the next day when they talked about things I didn't remember. Fortunately I was the teacher's pet and my Father was well-respected management so I didn't get punished where some of the more defiant working class kids would have gotten the strap or detention.

Also, everything my Mother fed us is now a deadly poison. We had so many steaks one year when my Father had the side of beef that he purchased for winter cut into too many steaks and not enough hamburger, that I got sick of having steak. A hotdog would have been a nice change.

NOT STEAK AGAIN!

My parents insisted we eat what was set before us, which is now a crime punishable by the International ...


Ah yes, remember the rope we had tied to the tree down by the creek? We all smoked by 16 anyway, remember the "Boys Room"? So freaking smoky you couldn't even see the urinal. Bike ramps? Stealing booze from our parents' liquor cabinet? Fries cooked in fat? Yep, we're all dead now, just sit around typing on the interweb.
 
2013-11-28 12:03:33 PM
That's been illegal in Ontario for years, good to see Florida do something right for a change.
http://www.mhp.gov.on.ca/en/smoke-fre e/simv/factsheet.asp
 
2013-11-28 12:08:16 PM

Prey4reign: Florida may not be that dumb after all.


But the do-gooders wanting every thought controlled by a politician who knows what is best for you are. And they are willing to have you killed to prove it.
 
2013-11-28 12:14:41 PM

cig-mkr: Psiman42: Spirit Hammer: If they smoke in their cars, I bet they smoke in their homes too.

And what about fourth hand smoke?
http://tobaccoanalysis.blogspot.com/2010/11/article-warns-of-dangers -o f-fourth-hand.html
 "smoke exposure resulting from being in the presence of someone who themselves was in the presence of a smoker. "
Or Fifth hand smoke?
http://smokles.wordpress.com/2010/07/05/smoking-in-the-movies-5th-ha nd -smoke/

What's next? Sixth hand smoke, from someone carrying unlit cigarettes. Seventh hand smoke, from someone who works in a convenience store and sells cigarettes, Eighth hand smoke (Seen an ad for cigarettes on TV as a child)...


Ninth hand smoke, watching Forest Gump and realize him and Jenny were running through a tobacco field.
 
2013-11-28 12:16:31 PM

wildcardjack: Ah,but that's how they want you to think they do. And the thought police are in solid federation with the nicotine nannies.


The good news is that, unlike most of the compounds in cigarettes, aluminum isn't particularly dangerous, so your hat won't be poisoning you anytime soon.
 
2013-11-28 12:22:41 PM
Boil that frog slooooooooowly.
 
2013-11-28 12:22:51 PM
When they proposed the same law for Louisiana (which I think has since passed), my parents (both smokers) freaked the fark out. 

It didn't matter that 3/4 of their kids already had asthma, the oldest son being sent to the ER on a regular basis with complications due to his asthma.  My farking mom and dad would still drive him to the hospital, both smoking, with him in the back seat and the farking windows rolled up, because it's LA and it's HOT in the summertime.

/still remember those long car trips with 2-3 adults chain smoking and the air in the car set to recirculate, because it stays cooler that way
//stench of cigarette smoke and those little fake maple syrup packages spilled all over the back seat of a car, while your thighs stick to the seat and you're shoved between two other kids... *shudder*
///I drew the one long straw and didn't get all-out asthma, but I get weird breathing issues when I'm around cigarette smoke.
////sometimes legislation needs to happen because parents are farking morons
//slashslashslash...
 
2013-11-28 12:32:48 PM
Hobodeluxe

brantgoose: My parents are going to jail.

Ah, yes. We climbed trees, played with BB guns, carried pocket knives, used hatchets and machetes, wandered miles through the woods on our own, had chemistry sets, lead melting sets, cooked over camp fires, harvested and ate raw oysters and clams and got frequently sunburned.

Some of us had Vac-U-Forms, used real glue to put together plastic models and ate unwashed wild berries right from the bushes.

My Dad had an early 1950's Ford truck, with running boards, power nothing, huge tires with tubes in them, no seat belts, sturdy steel painted dashboard, manual choke, starter button on the floor and heavy, metal chrome bumpers. The radio was high tech AM only and the speaker was set in the top of the dash.

How did we survive? I mean, what with all of that clean, fresh air, warm sun, no hidden toxins in the lakes, streams or lands, the rivers, lagoons and beaches full of fish and neighbors who were thoughtful of each other.

I haven't decided which is worse; a car full of cigarette smoke or kids living in a hostile, crime ridden, heavily polluted, city where they're afraid to leave their homes and 200,000 other people are crammed in the same few square miles. Not to mention all of the exhaust fumes they get to enjoy from 10,000 cars and trucks a day and the assorted pervs lurking all over the place along with the crazy people.

We picked our way through sand spurs, thorn bushes and vines, watching out for snakes and poison ivy. They get to tread lightly to avoid used needles, broken glass, human waste, overflowing dumpsters and the occasional brightly colored 'mystery pill' laying in the dirt.

I'll have to think about what is safer for kids.
 
2013-11-28 12:45:35 PM

I live in Florida and had my car window shot out while driving down the highway yesterday, so I'm getting a kick our of this headline.


/ya really

//very loud boom, scared the crap out of me

///thankfully the moran was shooting a shotgun instead of a rifle

////no the police didn't catch the moran, they took 45 minutes to show up

 
2013-11-28 12:56:24 PM

WGJ: I liked it when dad lit up a cigarette when we were driving, I thought it smelled good.


I did too, at least that first whiff. After that, meh. I think I was hooked.

Now the smell bothers the shiat out of me.
 
2013-11-28 01:06:29 PM

Rik01: Hobodeluxe

brantgoose: My parents are going to jail.

Ah, yes. We climbed trees, played with BB guns, carried pocket knives, used hatchets and machetes, wandered miles through the woods on our own, had chemistry sets, lead melting sets, cooked over camp fires, harvested and ate raw oysters and clams and got frequently sunburned.

Some of us had Vac-U-Forms, used real glue to put together plastic models and ate unwashed wild berries right from the bushes.

My Dad had an early 1950's Ford truck, with running boards, power nothing, huge tires with tubes in them, no seat belts, sturdy steel painted dashboard, manual choke, starter button on the floor and heavy, metal chrome bumpers. The radio was high tech AM only and the speaker was set in the top of the dash.

How did we survive? I mean, what with all of that clean, fresh air, warm sun, no hidden toxins in the lakes, streams or lands, the rivers, lagoons and beaches full of fish and neighbors who were thoughtful of each other.

I haven't decided which is worse; a car full of cigarette smoke or kids living in a hostile, crime ridden, heavily polluted, city where they're afraid to leave their homes and 200,000 other people are crammed in the same few square miles. Not to mention all of the exhaust fumes they get to enjoy from 10,000 cars and trucks a day and the assorted pervs lurking all over the place along with the crazy people.

We picked our way through sand spurs, thorn bushes and vines, watching out for snakes and poison ivy. They get to tread lightly to avoid used needles, broken glass, human waste, overflowing dumpsters and the occasional brightly colored 'mystery pill' laying in the dirt.

I'll have to think about what is safer for kids.


And I was forced to attend a school that had asbestos, not only that the chemistry teacher let us play with mercury
 
2013-11-28 01:08:45 PM

jst3p: WGJ: I liked it when dad lit up a cigarette when we were driving, I thought it smelled good.

I did too, at least that first whiff. After that, meh. I think I was hooked.

Now the smell bothers the shiat out of me.


You must go through a lot of underwear.
 
2013-11-28 01:42:29 PM

omeganuepsilon: jst3p: WGJ: I liked it when dad lit up a cigarette when we were driving, I thought it smelled good.

I did too, at least that first whiff. After that, meh. I think I was hooked.

Now the smell bothers the shiat out of me.

You must go through a lot of underwear.


Freballing with a kilt, the only way to go.
 
2013-11-28 01:47:24 PM

Meethos: How the hell can  anyone have a problem with this?


Because there are lots of "anyones" that will believe anything, especially if afeared or nannyed up..
 
2013-11-28 01:50:45 PM
I hate to break this to you subby, but, drinking, texting, shooting at passing cars, in Florida will get you a ticket for the first two, and arrested for number 3. And probably in the other 56 states, as  well.
 
2013-11-28 03:53:05 PM

OBBN: I live in Florida and had my car window shot out while driving down the highway yesterday, so I'm getting a kick our of this headline.
/ya really//very loud boom, scared the crap out of me///thankfully the moran was shooting a shotgun instead of a rifle////no the police didn't catch the moran, they took 45 minutes to show up


//And you still can't spell moron.

I'm OK with Florida doing this.  As a parent (in Florida), it sickens me to see newborns exposed to second-hand smoke.  I just wish it was a moving violation.
 
2013-11-28 04:01:17 PM

djones101: OBBN: I live in Florida and had my car window shot out while driving down the highway yesterday, so I'm getting a kick our of this headline.
/ya really//very loud boom, scared the crap out of me///thankfully the moran was shooting a shotgun instead of a rifle////no the police didn't catch the moran, they took 45 minutes to show up

//And you still can't spell moron.

I'm OK with Florida doing this.  As a parent (in Florida), it sickens me to see newborns exposed to second-hand smoke.  I just wish it was a moving violation.


It's a meme. Like vodak. You're not new at this.
thegospelcoalition.org
 
2013-11-28 04:02:00 PM

djones101: OBBN: I live in Florida and had my car window shot out while driving down the highway yesterday, so I'm getting a kick our of this headline.
/ya really//very loud boom, scared the crap out of me///thankfully the moran was shooting a shotgun instead of a rifle////no the police didn't catch the moran, they took 45 minutes to show up

//And you still can't spell moron.

I'm OK with Florida doing this.  As a parent (in Florida), it sickens me to see newborns exposed to second-hand smoke.  I just wish it was a moving violation.


I'm not sure how it could read in the law books, but it being a non moving violation might make it more of something that could prove a more serious charge later with child abuse charges.  Not making it a moving violation does make sense because what if the car is parked, then you can still issue the ticket.
 
2013-11-28 06:40:59 PM

Chiquidin: Can a whole state be nominated for a Darwin Award?


No, South Dakota already got it
 
2013-11-28 07:31:36 PM
That does it. THAT'S THE LAST STRAW. I lived with second hand smoke for almost half my life...cough cough...and it...cough cough...didn't...cough cough...affect me at all...cough cough...

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2013-11-29 01:17:44 AM
Is masturbating while driving OK id you don;t use your hands?

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WHAT NOT TO DO.
 
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