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(Forbes)   "...the PG rating for animated and family features is now as meaningless as the PG-13 rating is for mass-market tent poles"   (forbes.com) divider line 61
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2013-11-28 08:45:40 AM  
There's no doubt ratings are stricter now.

It's funny to look back at the 70's. G was given to movies that would get PG-13 these days.
Silent Running and The Andromeda Strain comes to mind.

Then there was the early 80's where Yellowbeard was PG and that would be probably be R today.
 
2013-11-28 09:42:47 AM  
Adults can make anything dirty. It's not the rating system, it's the thoughts in your own head.
 
2013-11-28 11:42:23 AM  
danceswithfat.files.wordpress.com

This is why.
 
2013-11-28 11:44:11 AM  
All the ratings are meaningless once you get the jackasses who demand that they paid for their tickets, dammit, and if they want to bring their infant into an R-rated film they damn well will, damn it!
 
2013-11-28 11:46:12 AM  
I blame the "R" porn-ers.
"They should make it R rated!"
/fark I hate people like that.
 
2013-11-28 12:04:24 PM  
Problem goes the other was as well. Quite a few movies in the 80s and 90s were re-cut in order to get a 'PG-13' instead of an 'R' because the studios wanted the teen demographic rather than the 20-something demographic. So the movies that should be for little kids get upgraded to something suitable for a teen while the movies that should be for adults get downgraded to something suitable for a teen. Thanks 0bama!
 
2013-11-28 12:27:47 PM  
Oh the era of boobs in a PG movie.  Good times, good times
 
2013-11-28 12:32:39 PM  
So the movie ratings system is vague, unclear, and useless?

Who knew?
 
2013-11-28 12:56:43 PM  
If you make it PG rated the parents are more likely to want to see it as well, so more will take their kids to see it. Give it a G rating and parents will think it's some kiddie snooze-fest and just rent it when it comes out on DVD.
 
2013-11-28 01:03:10 PM  
"Planet of the Apes" with Charlton Heston. Violence, lots of violence. Language ("Damn dirty ape"). Nudity (Heston's bare ass if a couple of scenes).

Rated G.
 
2013-11-28 01:04:02 PM  
The original "Anchorman" was rated PG-13, and had a lot of sexual innuendo. It's been ten years since the original has been released, and Will Ferrell has made  a number of hard-R comedies since then, so I wouldn't be surprised if "Anchorman 2" got an R rating, which is usually the opposite of what usually happens with sequels ("National Lampoon's Vacation" was given an R in 1983, before the PG-13 rating was introduced, but it had enough F-bombs and nudity to warrant that. The sequels were all PG-13).
 
2013-11-28 01:09:19 PM  

Richard_The_Clown: "Planet of the Apes" with Charlton Heston. Violence, lots of violence. Language ("Damn dirty ape"). Nudity (Heston's bare ass if a couple of scenes).

Rated G.


That being said, I saw "Spawn" when that came out in theaters. Thought it was okay, just really enjoyed watching Leguizamo ham it up on screen. Then it came out with a "Director's Cut", an R-rated version. So I rented that thinking that it was gonna have more intense action, more adult language and hopefully, Priest's boobies. The ONLY difference between the the two movies is Al calls out Wanda's name while you see him burn where as in the PG-13 one it's as he's going to Hell. The other is when he gets thrown out of the building and his suit saves him he says, "Hell yeah," in the PG-13 and "Ho-lee shiat" in the R.

At least the R-rated "Daredevil" deserved to be R rated...
 
2013-11-28 01:35:52 PM  
Can someone please tell me why Spinal Tap was rated R in the early 80s? Besides some inaudible strong swearing under the manager's breath, and his reference to drugs, it is as PG as you can get! This was at a time when JAWS got a PG rating!

/MPAA really sucks at their job
 
2013-11-28 01:57:23 PM  

ReapTheChaos: If you make it PG rated the parents are more likely to want to see it as well, so more will take their kids to see it. Give it a G rating and parents will think it's some kiddie snooze-fest and just rent it when it comes out on DVD.


Sadly, I think this is it. And remember, the film gets the rating the studio pays for.
 
2013-11-28 02:22:29 PM  
This is what you get when you let religious nutjobs run your movie rating system.
 
2013-11-28 02:32:31 PM  
Spawn deserves a higher budget remake with no concessions given to the bean counters. Dredd did well and that had a lot of graphic violence. HBO is showing worse stuff on prime time, AMC and FX aren't too far behind.
 
2013-11-28 03:17:52 PM  
www.thewrap.com
Gets an R rating because of two uses of the F-word

derekwinnert.com
Rated PG, had two uses of the F-word
 
2013-11-28 03:19:37 PM  
Dredd bombed, though.
 
2013-11-28 03:29:30 PM  
I took my kids to see Planes over the summer and bought them the Blu-Ray version the other day; I just assumed it was rated "G." Didn't notice until last night it was rated "PG" for whatever reason.


It's Disney! It's not like it's South Park: Big, Longer and Uncut (which a lot parents also took their kids to because it was "animated").
 
2013-11-28 03:33:38 PM  

Catsaregreen: I took my kids to see Planes over the summer and bought them the Blu-Ray version the other day; I just assumed it was rated "G." Didn't notice until last night it was rated "PG" for whatever reason.


It's Disney! It's not like it's South Park: Big, Longer and Uncut (which a lot parents also took their kids to because it was "animated").


I remember working in retail at a well known office supply store in the late 90s, and we got in a few 'movies on standard CD-ROM'.  The supervisor wanted to pull one out to play on one of the display computers, picked out the animated one.  That one was 'Ghost in the Shell'.  'Uh, no, you don't want that one!'
 
2013-11-28 03:38:07 PM  
It's the Republican run MPAA. I saw an awesome doc on it years ago, blew my mind. PG-13 can have all the death you can jam into a movie, as long as there is minimum/none blood/gore. Real life consequences seems to be a big part of protecting children, or I would assume.

Americans: More afraid of titties than guns.

Not EVERYBODY, but you know what I'm sayin'

Every 80's comedy had some titties, it's a god-damn shame these days...
 
2013-11-28 04:58:44 PM  
Does anyone even pay attention to MPAA ratings anymore?
 
2013-11-28 05:04:02 PM  

Alphax: Catsaregreen: I took my kids to see Planes over the summer and bought them the Blu-Ray version the other day; I just assumed it was rated "G." Didn't notice until last night it was rated "PG" for whatever reason.

It's Disney! It's not like it's South Park: Big, Longer and Uncut (which a lot parents also took their kids to because it was "animated").

I remember working in retail at a well known office supply store in the late 90s, and we got in a few 'movies on standard CD-ROM'.  The supervisor wanted to pull one out to play on one of the display computers, picked out the animated one.  That one was 'Ghost in the Shell'.  'Uh, no, you don't want that one!'


Back in my video store days I had a girl I worked with protest when I wanted to put "Police Squad" on in the store. She claimed it was "Rated R". I told her it was a TV show and she said "They put rated R stuff on TV all the time" (mind you this was the late 80s). I tried to convince her this wasn't true but after going back and forth about it a few times I finally just said "Listen, if you don't want to watch it just say so. No need to be a biatch about it" and walked away.
 
2013-11-28 05:14:40 PM  

Richard_The_Clown: "Planet of the Apes" with Charlton Heston. Violence, lots of violence. Language ("Damn dirty ape"). Nudity (Heston's bare ass if a couple of scenes).

Rated G.


Was there any blood?  I think back when the original Planet of the Apes was released in 1968, you had to feature blood or gore to bump it to an M (the precursor to PG) or an R.  It's been awhile but I don't remember seeing any serious on-screen bleeding or mutilation in that movie.  It was about on par with what was allowed on American network TV at that time.

As for the nudity, it got a pass because it was brief and non-sexual.  However, the MPAA proved not be so lenient regarding later films (especially if the nudity was female).
 
2013-11-28 05:28:35 PM  
I don't think I or anyone I know has ever differentiated between G and PG.

That being said some of the stuff that makes it to PG is crazy.One of those Narnia movies had a huge freaking battle with stabbing and shooting but because they turned to stone instead of dying it's PG!  WTF are you trying to teach your kids!?
 
2013-11-28 07:18:26 PM  

NDP2: Richard_The_Clown: "Planet of the Apes" with Charlton Heston. Violence, lots of violence. Language ("Damn dirty ape"). Nudity (Heston's bare ass if a couple of scenes).

Rated G.

Was there any blood?  I think back when the original Planet of the Apes was released in 1968, you had to feature blood or gore to bump it to an M (the precursor to PG) or an R.  It's been awhile but I don't remember seeing any serious on-screen bleeding or mutilation in that movie.  It was about on par with what was allowed on American network TV at that time.

As for the nudity, it got a pass because it was brief and non-sexual.  However, the MPAA proved not be so lenient regarding later films (especially if the nudity was female).


The Burt Reynolds movie "Hooper" (1978) had this woman pop out of a cake topless and still got a PG.

s3.amazonaws.com
 
2013-11-28 08:34:46 PM  

SovietCanuckistan: It's the Republican run MPAA. I saw an awesome doc on it years ago, blew my mind. PG-13 can have all the death you can jam into a movie, as long as there is minimum/none blood/gore. Real life consequences seems to be a big part of protecting children, or I would assume.

Americans: More afraid of titties than guns.

Not EVERYBODY, but you know what I'm sayin'

Every 80's comedy had some titties, it's a god-damn shame these days...


I saw that documentary too I think (This Film is Not Yet Rated). What's funny is that the new Bond films have a fair bit of blood in them, yet they still get a PG-13 rating.
 
2013-11-28 08:46:33 PM  

Richard_The_Clown: "Planet of the Apes" with Charlton Heston. Violence, lots of violence. Language ("Damn dirty ape"). Nudity (Heston's bare ass if a couple of scenes).

Rated G.


These days it would get at least a PG-13 as soon as Heston takes a drag on whatever it is he's smoking during his opening monologue on the spacecraft. And he shoots himself up with an intravenous drug before he's done.
 
2013-11-28 09:41:01 PM  

fusillade762: Does anyone even pay attention to MPAA ratings anymore?


Not in the way that they're intended.  You can look at Zack Snyder's Watchmen, and there are scenes that are clearly there to bump it up to a "R" rating to give it street cred with fanboys (I will direct you to the moment when the camera lingers on a broken bone protruding from the skin during a fight scene).  There are horror fans (myself often included) that disregard any scary movie that comes out at less than a "R".
 
2013-11-28 10:13:27 PM  

Primitive Screwhead: There's no doubt ratings are stricter now.

It's funny to look back at the 70's. G was given to movies that would get PG-13 these days.
Silent Running and The Andromeda Strain comes to mind.

Then there was the early 80's where Yellowbeard was PG and that would be probably be R today.


I'm just waiting for the day when a Mario game gets an M rating.
 
2013-11-28 10:15:46 PM  

fusillade762: NDP2: Richard_The_Clown: "Planet of the Apes" with Charlton Heston. Violence, lots of violence. Language ("Damn dirty ape"). Nudity (Heston's bare ass if a couple of scenes).

Rated G.

Was there any blood?  I think back when the original Planet of the Apes was released in 1968, you had to feature blood or gore to bump it to an M (the precursor to PG) or an R.  It's been awhile but I don't remember seeing any serious on-screen bleeding or mutilation in that movie.  It was about on par with what was allowed on American network TV at that time.

As for the nudity, it got a pass because it was brief and non-sexual.  However, the MPAA proved not be so lenient regarding later films (especially if the nudity was female).

The Burt Reynolds movie "Hooper" (1978) had this woman pop out of a cake topless and still got a PG.

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I also like the "Anti-helmet poster inside." Now I imagine that anti-gun nuts will sound like the editors of this magazine in 20 years...
 
2013-11-28 10:21:03 PM  

fusillade762: NDP2: Richard_The_Clown: "Planet of the Apes" with Charlton Heston. Violence, lots of violence. Language ("Damn dirty ape"). Nudity (Heston's bare ass if a couple of scenes).

Rated G.

Was there any blood?  I think back when the original Planet of the Apes was released in 1968, you had to feature blood or gore to bump it to an M (the precursor to PG) or an R.  It's been awhile but I don't remember seeing any serious on-screen bleeding or mutilation in that movie.  It was about on par with what was allowed on American network TV at that time.

As for the nudity, it got a pass because it was brief and non-sexual.  However, the MPAA proved not be so lenient regarding later films (especially if the nudity was female).

The Burt Reynolds movie "Hooper" (1978) had this woman pop out of a cake topless and still got a PG.

[s3.amazonaws.com image 616x793]


Yeah, but it wasn't a G like Planet of the Apes was.  Until PG-13 came along, you could get away with a fair amount of female nudity in a PG film.  (BTW, my pre-adolescent self thanks you, Geneviève Bujold, for letting us see every square inch of you during your entirely gratuitous skinny dip in the otherwise forgettable Swashbuckler. Also, I thank the MPAA for  apparently being asleepbecause there is no other explanation for how that scene could end up in a PG movie.)
 
2013-11-28 10:31:04 PM  
Back in the 80s, you could say "damn" -- more than once -- and still get a G.

I was kind of disturbed to get a recent DVD release of The Last Unicorn, a film I watched so much as a kid I still have a lot of the dialogue memorized, and discovered they not only removed both instances of "damn" but also didn't even try to dub in anything else (like maybe "darn" or "why" or "curses" or something). Just left these weird pauses where the character's mouth is still moving but there's no noise.

I think Nightmare Before Christmas was the first PG animated thing I saw -- and I understand that because it was stop action, made to look more realistic to a degree, and deliberately contained some spookiness and also a threat through the film that Santa Claus was going to be horribly murdered.
 
2013-11-28 10:52:36 PM  
Anyone remember this?

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2013-11-28 10:57:17 PM  
The MPAA ratings have been a complete joke for as long as I remember. I saw the Bad News Bears (the original one) in the theater without my parents in spite of the non-stop swearing. Naked side-boob gets you an R, but you can paint the wall with someone's brains in a PG.
 
2013-11-28 11:13:37 PM  
The ratings are useless.  It's why I end up taking a look at places like Common Sense Media to see what to expect from movies.  They tend to rate things a lot harsher than I would've.
I don't get my panties in a twist if one of the characters use the word damn or anything along those lines.  On the other hand, it's nice to know ahead of time if there's going to be really graphic gore or torture.  Scary can be thrilling, but I'm not looking to give my kid horrific nightmares for the next six months.
 
2013-11-28 11:23:16 PM  

NDP2: fusillade762: NDP2: Richard_The_Clown: "Planet of the Apes" with Charlton Heston. Violence, lots of violence. Language ("Damn dirty ape"). Nudity (Heston's bare ass if a couple of scenes).

Rated G.

Was there any blood?  I think back when the original Planet of the Apes was released in 1968, you had to feature blood or gore to bump it to an M (the precursor to PG) or an R.  It's been awhile but I don't remember seeing any serious on-screen bleeding or mutilation in that movie.  It was about on par with what was allowed on American network TV at that time.

As for the nudity, it got a pass because it was brief and non-sexual.  However, the MPAA proved not be so lenient regarding later films (especially if the nudity was female).

The Burt Reynolds movie "Hooper" (1978) had this woman pop out of a cake topless and still got a PG.

[s3.amazonaws.com image 616x793]

Yeah, but it wasn't a G like Planet of the Apes was.  Until PG-13 came along, you could get away with a fair amount of female nudity in a PG film.  (BTW, my pre-adolescent self thanks you, Geneviève Bujold, for letting us see every square inch of you during your entirely gratuitous skinny dip in the otherwise forgettable Swashbuckler. Also, I thank the MPAA for  apparently being asleepbecause there is no other explanation for how that scene could end up in a PG movie.)


Also remember that both Hooper and Swashbuckler predate PG-13 (introduced in 1984), It was created specifically to be an intermediate between PG and R because there was such a large gap of what was allowed in movies before they would get bumped up to R.
 
2013-11-29 12:03:37 AM  

Korzine: Also remember that both Hooper and Swashbuckler predate PG-13 (introduced in 1984), It was created specifically to be an intermediate between PG and R because there was such a large gap of what was allowed in movies before they would get bumped up to R.


...and because Gremlins had been released with a PG rating.
 
2013-11-29 12:20:06 AM  

penthesilea: The ratings are useless.  It's why I end up taking a look at places like Common Sense Media to see what to expect from movies.  They tend to rate things a lot harsher than I would've.
I don't get my panties in a twist if one of the characters use the word damn or anything along those lines.  On the other hand, it's nice to know ahead of time if there's going to be really graphic gore or torture.  Scary can be thrilling, but I'm not looking to give my kid horrific nightmares for the next six months.


CAP Alert is fun for that. They obsessively compile every curse word, sex scene, violence, etc as well as piercings, tattoos, parental disrespect, drug use and "offenses to God". Here's their list from "American Psycho" (which got a ZERO, their worst rating):

FINDINGS / SCORING: American Psycho (2000) CAP Thermometers

NOTE: Multiple occurrences of each item described below may be likely.

Wanton Violence/Crime (W):
butcher knife as solo object in lead-in
threats to kill, one with perversion
expression of killing being a drug with addictive properties
cover-up maneuvers
human head in refrigerator
toying with knives while talking to date
holding nailgun to date's head, threatening murder
two bloody bodies hanging in closet
yanking sheets off exposing bloody face (cannibalism)
chasing prostitute (while chaser is nude) with a chain saw
confession of murders to lawyer
notepad drawings of extreme bizarre imagery: perversion, vulgarity, murder, blood, nudity, rape, dismemberment, cannibalism, more

Impudence/Hate (I)(1):
27 uses of the most foul of the foul words
20 uses of the three/four letter word vocabulary
punk dress
orders to lie
sexual obsession over business cards
sitting studiously over victim's body after murder
laughing and crying at the same time with screaming in a mad frenzy, repeatedly

Sex/Homosexuality (S):
many scenes of full rear male nudity
long sequence of adult male in briefs only plus additional scenes of adults in underwear
talk of sexually immoral behavior
porno pictures
intercourse with nudity in a porno video, repeating
homosexual presence
most vulgar sexual comments
nudity in bathtub
order to strip clothes
adults in underwear doing vulgar dance
ordering perversion between two prostitutes
group intercourse with nudity
homosexual approach
plaque of nudity
buying prostitutes
inappropriate touching
intercourse between two with nudity
adult male in shower

Drugs/Alcohol (D):
booze
drinking
drunkenness
talk of illegal drug practice
smoking
illegal drug consumption
talk of drug dependence
abuse of prescription drugs

Offense to God (O)(2):
two uses of God's name in vain with the four letter expletive and 19 without
two abbreviations of "Christmas" without "Christ"

Murder/Suicide (M)(3):
knife murder
axe murder - multiple strikes w/ much blood splatter
intercourse/cannibalism murder
murder with a chainsaw as a spear
several gunfire murders
murder of four police officers by gunfire, explosion and fire
 
2013-11-29 12:32:38 AM  

Dwight_Yeast: Korzine: Also remember that both Hooper and Swashbuckler predate PG-13 (introduced in 1984), It was created specifically to be an intermediate between PG and R because there was such a large gap of what was allowed in movies before they would get bumped up to R.

...and because Gremlins had been released with a PG rating.


Along with Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.
 
2013-11-29 01:43:06 AM  
CAP Alert is fun for that. They obsessively compile every curse word, sex scene, violence, etc as well as piercings, tattoos, parental disrespect, drug use and "offenses to God". Here's their list from "American Psycho" (which got a ZERO, their worst rating): ...

Man, so much win in this list!

A lot of potential band names in there.

Also they don't have a section for offensive music ...
 
2013-11-29 02:33:44 AM  

fusillade762: CAP Alert is fun for that. They obsessively compile every curse word, sex scene, violence, etc as well as piercings, tattoos, parental disrespect, drug use and "offenses to God". Here's their list from "American Psycho" (which got a ZERO, their worst rating):


They also lie out their asses and misrepresent the shiat out of movies.
 
2013-11-29 03:29:22 AM  
Big studios can pretty much get the rating they want.  They control the system.  Indie films don't have the political clout, so will get screwed.
 
2013-11-29 06:04:33 AM  

Sobekneferu: Back in the 80s, you could say "damn" -- more than once -- and still get a G.


Just about every kids movie in the 80s -- Flight of the Navigator, Goonies, Back to the Future, Spacecamp, Explorers, Big Shots, Transformers, etc. -- all had the expletive "shiat" in them. No f-bombs, but plenty of s-words. It was the gold standard of filthy language in 80s comedy films. For f-bombs, you needed the action movies: Die Hard, Lethal Weapon, Commando, Robocop, etc...
 
2013-11-29 06:28:55 AM  

Surool: The MPAA ratings have been a complete joke for as long as I remember. I saw the Bad News Bears (the original one) in the theater without my parents in spite of the non-stop swearing. Naked side-boob gets you an R, but you can paint the wall with someone's brains in a PG.


[citation needed]

/hyperbole FTW!
 
2013-11-29 06:33:04 AM  

Electrify: Can someone please tell me why Spinal Tap was rated R in the early 80s? Besides some inaudible strong swearing under the manager's breath, and his reference to drugs, it is as PG as you can get! This was at a time when JAWS got a PG rating!

/MPAA really sucks at their job



The F-bombs fly between June Chadwick and whatshisname.
 
2013-11-29 10:22:59 AM  

Son of Streak: fusillade762: Does anyone even pay attention to MPAA ratings anymore?

Not in the way that they're intended.  You can look at Zack Snyder's Watchmen, and there are scenes that are clearly there to bump it up to a "R" rating to give it street cred with fanboys (I will direct you to the moment when the camera lingers on a broken bone protruding from the skin during a fight scene).  There are horror fans (myself often included) that disregard any scary movie that comes out at less than a "R".


I think blue penis and the sex scene (both of which were in the book) would've bumped it up to an R-rating anyway.
 
2013-11-29 11:16:35 AM  
I was surprised when I heard that "Frozen" was rated PG. "Parental Guidance Suggested? As if any parent would be sending their kid to this movie alone?"

I think the "problem" is that audiences' perception of a movie is based in a large part on the rating. I'm guilty of this. If I'm interested in seeing something on TV after my kids have gone to bed, and all I know about a movie is the name and the MPAA rating, I assume that any G, PG, or PG-13 movie is "kid stuff".

Of course, if I look up a movie and read the absolute least amount possible about it and NEVER know the MPAA rating I'd probably be far better off in choosing a movie on TV.

But that said, what's going on in "Frozen" that should have parents concerned that they should make sure they monitor the movie while their kids are watching it?
 
2013-11-29 12:10:50 PM  

FeedTheCollapse: Son of Streak: fusillade762: Does anyone even pay attention to MPAA ratings anymore?

Not in the way that they're intended.  You can look at Zack Snyder's Watchmen, and there are scenes that are clearly there to bump it up to a "R" rating to give it street cred with fanboys (I will direct you to the moment when the camera lingers on a broken bone protruding from the skin during a fight scene).  There are horror fans (myself often included) that disregard any scary movie that comes out at less than a "R".

I think blue penis and the sex scene (both of which were in the book) would've bumped it up to an R-rating anyway.


I think that you're probably right.  I just remember sitting in the theater and thinking, "Wow, we're lingering extra long on this gruesome injury."  It just seemed like an extra precaution to make absolutely sure.
 
2013-11-29 02:15:08 PM  

peterthx: Surool: The MPAA ratings have been a complete joke for as long as I remember. I saw the Bad News Bears (the original one) in the theater without my parents in spite of the non-stop swearing. Naked side-boob gets you an R, but you can paint the wall with someone's brains in a PG.

[citation needed]

/hyperbole FTW!


I'm sorry you are sheltered and don't know about these things, but which part do you feel needs a citation?
 
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