gopher321: "Papers, please."
cman: Old news is old and not new
log_jammin: gopher321: "Papers, please."[i131.photobucket.com image 500x281]
mediablitz: Montana has a border patrol station in Billings. Take a look at a map and explain that...
whistleridge: "Let me put it to you this way, sir: you're not in the US yet. Airports don't count. And if you don't let us search you, we'll be happy to deny you entry and put you right back on the plane."
padraig: whistleridge: "Let me put it to you this way, sir: you're not in the US yet. Airports don't count. And if you don't let us search you, we'll be happy to deny you entry and put you right back on the plane."I thought the right to reenter your home country could never be denied ?
whistleridge: CSB Time:I did my Peace Corps service in a very muslim area of West Africa. After two years, the only clothes I had left were clothes that you could wear everyday in a muslim town, ie light robes and head wraps. Despite my sparkling blue eyes, I'm sure I looked like a 'terrorist' when I landed in DC.And sure enough, for the first time in my life, I got 'randomly' selected for more intensive search procedures. After they asked me to come to the little room with them, I asked the guy a bit curiously:"Hey...my passport says I'm an American citizen, right?"Yes, sir""And you have no reason to believe I've done the slightest thing wrong, right? I mean, I didn't trigger a metal detector or anything like that?""Yes sir""And you know I had to go through security prior to boarding in Dakar, in full accordance with international treaty?""Yes. What's your point""I'm just curious what your legal justification is for searching my stuff. Fourth Amendment rights and all"*pause*"Let me put it to you this way, sir: you're not in the US yet. Airports don't count. And if you don't let us search you, we'll be happy to deny you entry and put you right back on the plane."*pause*"Fair enough. Search on, my good man"I wasn't really trying to be a dick. I was just curious. I figured he would cite some law or legal precedent, but he didn't. And he clearly had never been asked the question or considered an answer before either. People just seem to go with it, when it comes to airport searches. Odd./end CSB
wax_on: This has never made it to the SCOTUS? Not that they would do the right thing but still.
log_jammin: October 22, 2008
BSABSVR: Just because submitter just found out about the 100 mile zone around the border, doesn't mean nobody else knew. Especially those of us who have been within 100 miles of the US border.
TheShavingofOccam123: Keep hiring those illegal aliens to raise your kids, mow your yards and serve your restaurant meals. They're just hard working individuals who don't respect laws and have no effect on law-enforcement's behavior.
If the current generation of Americans does not challenge this creeping (and sometimes galloping) expansion of federal powers over the individual through the rationale of "border protection," we are not doing our part to keep alive the rights and freedoms that we inherited, and will soon find that we have lost some or all of their right to go about their business, and travel around inside their own country, without interference from the authorities.
Juc: Canadians had 4th ammendment rights?
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