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2013-11-28 01:49:33 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: So an incalculably rich monolith best known for legions of never-questioning acolytes bent on spreading the gospel under pain of death and for covering up wanton abuse of little boys...versus the Catholic Church?


You magnificent bastard. Thank you.
 
2013-11-28 01:50:46 PM

Three Crooked Squirrels: As a lapsed Catholic and non-believer, I've been thinking that I kind of like this Pope. The fact that Rush is at odds with him only confirms my suspicion: He must not be half bad.


Yeah, I might actually start going to church again.  I grew up Catholic, still call myself that if people ask, but I've only been marginally attached to the church - basically a Christmas and Easter Catholic.

I've always really respected the Jesuits, and I think we're long since overdue for a Jesuit pope.  I just hope he lives a long time - while hopefully we're past the days of cardinals murdering popes (or popes exhuming dead popes and putting them on trial...) I just worry that whenever he does pass, the ideological pendulum will swing hard in the other direction.
 
2013-11-28 01:51:14 PM
Pathetic Rush Limbaugh. He's thinks the pseudo-Christianity shilled by conservatives is the real thing. Talk about Jesus if it gets you votes but having sympathy for the poor is Marxism, Socialism, pinko commie talk. Like most people of his narrow mindset, he has no idea what a real Christian stands for.

I'd be surprised if Limbaugh even knows the difference between Marxism, Socialism, Communism, Facism, etc. but I know he knows his audience doesn't. You ever notice how conservatives sling those terms around as if they're interchangeable? Mainly because they know their audience is uneducated and has no idea. It's pathetic but Limbaugh is shameless. If I were Barack Obama, I'd have had his overlarge white ass accidentally droned by now.
 
2013-11-28 01:53:16 PM

riverwalk barfly: Why does anyone think that the pope has any impact on American culture or politics?  It's another way for Rush to beat his chest and rile his audience.

Supreme court is comprised of six Catholics and three Jews. (I bet that kills the evangelicals)

four decidedly conservative Catholics
one liberal
one moderate (Kennedy)

Boehner - Catholic
Pelosi  - Catholic
Paul Ryan - Catholic
Biden - Catholic.

There is no Catholic political common ground.   And the Pope makes no difference.


Vatican kinda sets the overall theme for the church.

If he theme is less "shame homosexuals and baby killers" and more "shame the greedy rich," well, great.
 
2013-11-28 01:55:08 PM

Corvus: Psst, the dude Christ was actually a bit of a socialist.


I posted this, my FB *lit up*with uber-christians telling me how absolutley wrong I was.   Posted scripture to counteract their messages, nadda.  "You're wrong!"
 
2013-11-28 01:55:45 PM

Mugato: Well he's right in that the Vatican is opulent but the new Pope can't do anything about that. So Rush has no point, except fark the poor.


Actually, he has.
 
2013-11-28 01:56:40 PM

square028: I'll take Franky the Pope in the 4th round with the Holy Hand Grenade.


"Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out."
 
2013-11-28 01:58:37 PM
The tight relationship between Catholics and conservative Protestants in the U.S. has always seemed bizarre to me. The only thing they seem to have in common is the abortion issue. Catholics have sold out on practically everything they ever believed in for that single issue.
 
2013-11-28 01:59:46 PM

sendtodave: riverwalk barfly: Why does anyone think that the pope has any impact on American culture or politics?  It's another way for Rush to beat his chest and rile his audience.

Supreme court is comprised of six Catholics and three Jews. (I bet that kills the evangelicals)

four decidedly conservative Catholics
one liberal
one moderate (Kennedy)

Boehner - Catholic
Pelosi  - Catholic
Paul Ryan - Catholic
Biden - Catholic.

There is no Catholic political common ground.   And the Pope makes no difference.

Vatican kinda sets the overall theme for the church.

If he theme is less "shame homosexuals and baby killers" and more "shame the greedy rich," well, great.


True.  But I went to Catholic School for twelve years.   My senior class produced to Priests.  One is very much like Francis and one is very much like Benedict.  I don't think either will change their sermons based on what the current Pope is preaching.  It's the American Catholic church - a whole other monster.
 
2013-11-28 02:03:04 PM
FTFA: "
As to Evangelii Gaudum, however, Limbaugh argued:
"I mean, it totally befuddled me.  If it weren't for capitalism, I don't know where the Catholic Church would be.  Now, as I mentioned before, I'm not Catholic.  I admire it profoundly and I've been tempted a number of times to delve deeper into it.  But the Pope here has now gone beyond Catholicism here, and this is pure political. ""

So Rush is saying he understands more about Catholics than the pope and then argues against the Gospels which clearly state that rich men should either give their money to help the poor if they would have any hope of being saved.  Not the writings of Paul but the Gospels!  Rush has stepped in it big time.  All Republicans tried as hard as they could to not speak too much about what the Gospels say about the wealthy, but this brings it into a mainline discussion.
 
2013-11-28 02:06:55 PM

riverwalk barfly: Why does anyone think that the pope has any impact on American culture or politics?  It's another way for Rush to beat his chest and rile his audience.

Supreme court is comprised of six Catholics and three Jews. (I bet that kills the evangelicals)

four decidedly conservative Catholics
one liberal
one moderate (Kennedy)

Boehner - Catholic
Pelosi  - Catholic
Paul Ryan - Catholic
Biden - Catholic.

There is no Catholic political common ground.   And the Pope makes no difference.


STRANGE
But when I cross states by religion, I see catholic states being pretty strongly blue.
 
2013-11-28 02:09:57 PM

The Dog Ate My Homework: The tight relationship between Catholics and conservative Protestants in the U.S. has always seemed bizarre to me. The only thing they seem to have in common is the abortion issue. Catholics have sold out on practically everything they ever believed in for that single issue.


Catholics or some Catholics?
Because while they preach against abortion, they get abortions like everyone else ...
 
2013-11-28 02:11:13 PM
That fat fark is really arguing that he understands Christianity better than the Pope, isn't he?
 
2013-11-28 02:11:13 PM

Darth Macho: "Now, up until this - I'm not Catholic. Up until this, I have to tell you, I was admiring the man.  I thought he was going a little overboard on the 'common man' touch...."

Yeah, isn't the Christian world a little too old for that 'blessed are the meek' nonsense?

"But regardless, what this is - Somebody has either written this for him or gotten to him.  This is just pure Marxism coming out of the mouth of the Pope."

Somebody has gotten to him! They've influenced Francis! It's almost as if since becoming the Pope there's some new insidious line of communication telling him these scandalous beliefs.

What horrible Marxist is speaking directly to Pope Francis?! Rush Limbaugh's never heard this before and he's afraid!


Rush obviously is completely ignorant of the name he chose: St. Francis of Assisi would have thought what the Pope said was a bit lenient on the rich.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_of_Assisi
 
2013-11-28 02:13:15 PM

Godscrack: Wonderful.

Two dark powers at war with each other.


It's like what would have happened if Saruman had gone to war with Sauron after all.
 
2013-11-28 02:13:44 PM
Greatest Pope since Paul VI. Still has a lot of work to do before he can reach those heights. He'll never be as great as John XXIII, but c'mon, J23 was one of the greatest men of the 20th century. Arguably the single most influential person of that period.
/We (Catholics) got a raw deal with JP1. I think he would have been a similar Pope to Francis had he had the time. JP2 was basically the (necessary) stenographer for the work of P6. Benedict XVI gets a bad rap for being the worst Pope of the last 50+ years but overall, those were some serious popes. I give him props for having the humility to step down as he did.
 
2013-11-28 02:14:49 PM

FatherDale: Dansker: More_Like_A_Stain: I_Am_Weasel: /I know it's not 'your royal popeness'

El Poparino?

The Popemeister!

His Extreme Popeliness


Snoop Popey Pope
 
2013-11-28 02:15:17 PM

Churchill2004: Do you know the way to Mordor: Catholicism and capitalism have historically been at odds- because it was Protestants who invented capitalism in the first place!

and the world is a much better place for it. 

I'll take capitalism over Catholicism any day, no apologies.


Remember though- Unfettered capitalism AND unfettered stateism have both trampled on human rights for centuries. What we need is a society where every institution, private and public, is constantly and permanently open and accountable to ALL the country's citizens.

A pipe dream, I know, but as long as people keep fighting for it we can at least keep the dream alive.
 
2013-11-28 02:18:51 PM
The American author WIlliam Faulkner was once asked what he thought of Christianity.

He replied that it seemed like a pretty good religion and that we should try it sometime.


/with apologies to James Lee Burke
 
2013-11-28 02:19:16 PM

Ablejack: John XXIII,


No love for Pope Leo XIII?
 
2013-11-28 02:21:25 PM

Ablejack: The Pope no more owns the Vatican than the President owns the White House. In fact, the Pope (literally) owns nothing and is paid nothing.


The President is not an absolute monarch. The Pope is. Unless you're going to try to argue that nobody owns the Vatican, which is ridiculous, then the Pope does. There's no "on behalf of the people" social-contract stuff going on with the Vatican. If anything, "owning" understates the Pope's relationship to the Vatican. If he ordered the place burned down or sold off tomorrow nobody could stop him, and he couldn't be charged with any crime for doing so. He can't even be removed from office against his will. By any reasonable standard, the Pope is one of the wealthiest men on the planet. The fig-leaf that it's all owned by the Holy See or the Church or the Vatican City State and not in the name of "Jorge Mario Bergoglio" (or "Francis") doesn't really have any bearing on that analysis, because all of those entities are entirely under the sole and absolute control of Francis/Bergoglio. If some billionaire owned his mansion and all his assets through a one-man corporation, you wouldn't accept that as proof of his actual poverty.
 
2013-11-28 02:23:34 PM
Good. Rush Limbaugh is proving what everyone who follows Jesus already know.. the GOP are lead by the anti-Christ and are false prophets.
 
2013-11-28 02:28:35 PM

More_Like_A_Stain: FatherDale: Dansker: More_Like_A_Stain: I_Am_Weasel: /I know it's not 'your royal popeness'

El Poparino?

The Popemeister!

His Extreme Popeliness

Snoop Popey Pope


Pope-a-doodle-doo
 
2013-11-28 02:29:49 PM
"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness."
John Kenneth Galbraith Rand Paul
 
2013-11-28 02:37:03 PM

Churchill2004: Ablejack: The Pope no more owns the Vatican than the President owns the White House. In fact, the Pope (literally) owns nothing and is paid nothing.

The President is not an absolute monarch. The Pope is. Unless you're going to try to argue that nobody owns the Vatican, which is ridiculous, then the Pope does. There's no "on behalf of the people" social-contract stuff going on with the Vatican. If anything, "owning" understates the Pope's relationship to the Vatican. If he ordered the place burned down or sold off tomorrow nobody could stop him, and he couldn't be charged with any crime for doing so. He can't even be removed from office against his will. By any reasonable standard, the Pope is one of the wealthiest men on the planet. The fig-leaf that it's all owned by the Holy See or the Church or the Vatican City State and not in the name of "Jorge Mario Bergoglio" (or "Francis") doesn't really have any bearing on that analysis, because all of those entities are entirely under the sole and absolute control of Francis/Bergoglio. If some billionaire owned his mansion and all his assets through a one-man corporation, you wouldn't accept that as proof of his actual poverty.


You're right, they should sell their priceless treasures and real estate to Goldman Sachs executives so that nobody but the rich would ever be able to see it again.
 
2013-11-28 02:41:01 PM
Ex-Catholic atheist here. I have posted before that I like Pope Francis. He reminds of the priests I had in SoCal as a kid. Like the "leftist" Catholics in Central and South America. Cast as villains because they spoke out about the same things. But the Catholics I met in other places I grew up, like Nebraska and West Virginia were far more conservative.
Pope Francis has now very publicly taken the ideology of the people who were the architects of those regimes. What are the odds that we could actually see a schism in the American Catholic Church?
 
2013-11-28 02:42:49 PM

USCLaw2010: Churchill2004: Ablejack: The Pope no more owns the Vatican than the President owns the White House. In fact, the Pope (literally) owns nothing and is paid nothing.

The President is not an absolute monarch. The Pope is. Unless you're going to try to argue that nobody owns the Vatican, which is ridiculous, then the Pope does. There's no "on behalf of the people" social-contract stuff going on with the Vatican. If anything, "owning" understates the Pope's relationship to the Vatican. If he ordered the place burned down or sold off tomorrow nobody could stop him, and he couldn't be charged with any crime for doing so. He can't even be removed from office against his will. By any reasonable standard, the Pope is one of the wealthiest men on the planet. The fig-leaf that it's all owned by the Holy See or the Church or the Vatican City State and not in the name of "Jorge Mario Bergoglio" (or "Francis") doesn't really have any bearing on that analysis, because all of those entities are entirely under the sole and absolute control of Francis/Bergoglio. If some billionaire owned his mansion and all his assets through a one-man corporation, you wouldn't accept that as proof of his actual poverty.

You're right, they should sell their priceless treasures and real estate to Goldman Sachs executives so that nobody but the rich would ever be able to see it again.


That's not what I said. I just said it's ridiculous to assert the Pope isn't wealthy.
 
2013-11-28 02:48:13 PM

Churchill2004: Also, this is nothing new. Popes have been spouting empty, hypocritical social-democratic platitudes for well over a century.


Both sides are bad, vote Limbaugh.
 
2013-11-28 02:49:30 PM

The Dog Ate My Homework: The tight relationship between Catholics and conservative Protestants in the U.S. has always seemed bizarre to me. The only thing they seem to have in common is the abortion issue. Catholics have sold out on practically everything they ever believed in for that single issue.


No. They also have blah-man-in-the-White-House in common. Not to mention civil rights since 1964. Come to Chicago and talk to some white Catholics.
 
2013-11-28 02:51:14 PM

More_Like_A_Stain: FatherDale: Dansker: More_Like_A_Stain: I_Am_Weasel: /I know it's not 'your royal popeness'

El Poparino?

The Popemeister!

His Extreme Popeliness

Snoop Popey Pope


The Bishop Formerly Known as Popey
 
2013-11-28 02:52:41 PM
Well, this could make Thanksgiving with my very Catholic, very Republican in-laws interesting indeed.

/not bringing it up
 
2013-11-28 02:54:09 PM

Weaver95: Three Crooked Squirrels: As a lapsed Catholic and non-believer, I've been thinking that I kind of like this Pope. The fact that Rush is at odds with him only confirms my suspicion: He must not be half bad.

i'm openly pagan and even I like this Pope.  I don't agree with all his policies but...DAYUM does he got the prosperity gospel preachers and their minions in an uproar!  Francis is quite a thorny problem for the Republicans.  they can't simply dismiss him or his comments.  oh sure, the US evangelicals have never liked the Catholics but they need their support for the pro-life agenda.  so there's a limit on how far they can go with retaliation.  Not to mention that there is NOTHING the likes of Rush Limbaugh can do to threaten the Pope to bring him into line.  Even trying to lean on the Pope is a public relations nightmare for the Right wing.  They can't shut the guy up, they can't ignore him, and even when they disagree with him they have to be respectful of the Church or they risk a schism in the ranks.

Pope Francis is a smart guy.  He's found the one fracture point in the GOP that they can't do anything about and he just hammered a spike thru it with a sledgehammer.  I hope he gives it another whack!


I'm a Pagan and I like the Pope because he seems like a decent guy who honestly has a brain somewhere in his skull. The rest is just gravy. :p
 
2013-11-28 02:54:29 PM
Ooh, Francis is never going to win re-election now.
 
2013-11-28 02:54:35 PM

Skleenar: Both sides are bad, vote Limbaugh.


I'm pretty sure we're not going to see any election between an American talk-show idiot and an Argentinian voodoo-peddler living in Italy.
 
2013-11-28 02:55:59 PM

Churchill2004: Ablejack: The Pope no more owns the Vatican than the President owns the White House. In fact, the Pope (literally) owns nothing and is paid nothing.

The President is not an absolute monarch. The Pope is. Unless you're going to try to argue that nobody owns the Vatican, which is ridiculous, then the Pope does. There's no "on behalf of the people" social-contract stuff going on with the Vatican. If anything, "owning" understates the Pope's relationship to the Vatican. If he ordered the place burned down or sold off tomorrow nobody could stop him, and he couldn't be charged with any crime for doing so. He can't even be removed from office against his will. By any reasonable standard, the Pope is one of the wealthiest men on the planet. The fig-leaf that it's all owned by the Holy See or the Church or the Vatican City State and not in the name of "Jorge Mario Bergoglio" (or "Francis") doesn't really have any bearing on that analysis, because all of those entities are entirely under the sole and absolute control of Francis/Bergoglio. If some billionaire owned his mansion and all his assets through a one-man corporation, you wouldn't accept that as proof of his actual poverty.


Something you might want to keep in mind is that formalized relationships do not necessarily accurately represent 'power', if you're relying on such in terms of defining ownership. If the pope indeed ordered the Vatican burned down tomorrow, I think it is very unrealistic to state that "nobody could stop him" - people would almost certainly do so, regardless of what the organizational chart says.

Just as the absolute monarchs you invoke did, in practice, not rule absolutely, neither does the pope.
 
2013-11-28 02:58:32 PM

Churchill2004: Skleenar: Both sides are bad, vote Limbaugh.

I'm pretty sure we're not going to see any election between an American talk-show idiot and an Argentinian voodoo-peddler living in Italy.


And yet, you've spent a inordinate amount of time in this thread running down the Argentinian voodoo-pedder.  I mean, you know, for someone who sees both sides as bad.
 
2013-11-28 02:59:44 PM
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/leo_xiii/encyclicals/documents/hf_l- xiii_enc_15051891_rerum-novarum_en.html

Pope Leo XIII had this to say in 1891:

"Hence, by degrees it has come to pass that working men have been surrendered, isolated and helpless, to the hardheartedness of employers and the greed of unchecked competition. The mischief has been increased by rapacious usury, which, although more than once condemned by the Church, is nevertheless, under a different guise, but with like injustice, still practiced by covetous and grasping men. To this must be added that the hiring of labor and the conduct of trade are concentrated in the hands of comparatively few; so that a small number of very rich men have been able to lay upon the teeming masses of the laboring poor a yoke little better than that of slavery itself. "

SOCIALISM!!!

" To remedy these wrongs the socialists, working on the poor man's envy of the rich, are striving to do away with private property, and contend that individual possessions should become the common property of all, to be administered by the State or by municipal bodies. They hold that by thus transferring property from private individuals to the community, the present mischievous state of things will be set to rights, inasmuch as each citizen will then get his fair share of whatever there is to enjoy. But their contentions are so clearly powerless to end the controversy that were they carried into effect the working man himself would be among the first to suffer. They are, moreover, emphatically unjust, for they would rob the lawful possessor, distort the functions of the State, and create utter confusion in the community. "

Oh. Or, justice. Whatever.
 
2013-11-28 03:03:21 PM

Skleenar: Churchill2004: Skleenar: Both sides are bad, vote Limbaugh.

I'm pretty sure we're not going to see any election between an American talk-show idiot and an Argentinian voodoo-peddler living in Italy.

And yet, you've spent a inordinate amount of time in this thread running down the Argentinian voodoo-pedder.  I mean, you know, for someone who sees both sides as bad.


Nobody in the thread is venerating Limbaugh as some kind of awesome dude.
 
2013-11-28 03:05:52 PM
I'm honestly surprised there's only been one white knight for Rush in here so far. Of course it is a holiday
 
2013-11-28 03:16:57 PM

Heron: Lenny_da_Hog: Are they fighting over which boys to boink?

This pope may actually go after the child-boinkers or, better yet, let secular authorities do so. The recent staff changes he's been making, both in the Papal "Court" and in the Vatican bank, have been to specifically remove men who were allies of those behind the child-boinker coverup. It's possible he's slowly getting ready to blow the lid off that entire terrible business.

I'm not a Catholic, but from a strategic pov that's something he needs to do. The child-molestation scandals lost them most of the US, French, and English congregations decades ago, but more recently it's cost them Ireland, the Catholic parts of Germany, and some of the Polish, Central American, and South American faithful as well. They really can't afford to not do anything about this in the hopes of winning back those European and American congregations.


It's something they need to do.

I guess that's why they elected a pope from Argentina, where child-sex is rampant.
 
2013-11-28 03:18:52 PM
33The Lord replied to Moses, "Whoever has sinned against me I will blot out of my book. 34Now go, lead the people to the place I spoke of, and my angel will go before you. However, when the time comes for me to punish, I will punish them for their sin."

-Rand Paul
 
2013-11-28 03:20:29 PM

Churchill2004: USCLaw2010: Churchill2004: Ablejack: The Pope no more owns the Vatican than the President owns the White House. In fact, the Pope (literally) owns nothing and is paid nothing.

The President is not an absolute monarch. The Pope is. Unless you're going to try to argue that nobody owns the Vatican, which is ridiculous, then the Pope does. There's no "on behalf of the people" social-contract stuff going on with the Vatican. If anything, "owning" understates the Pope's relationship to the Vatican. If he ordered the place burned down or sold off tomorrow nobody could stop him, and he couldn't be charged with any crime for doing so. He can't even be removed from office against his will. By any reasonable standard, the Pope is one of the wealthiest men on the planet. The fig-leaf that it's all owned by the Holy See or the Church or the Vatican City State and not in the name of "Jorge Mario Bergoglio" (or "Francis") doesn't really have any bearing on that analysis, because all of those entities are entirely under the sole and absolute control of Francis/Bergoglio. If some billionaire owned his mansion and all his assets through a one-man corporation, you wouldn't accept that as proof of his actual poverty.

You're right, they should sell their priceless treasures and real estate to Goldman Sachs executives so that nobody but the rich would ever be able to see it again.

That's not what I said. I just said it's ridiculous to assert the Pope isn't wealthy.


Which would suggest that the Pope has direct control over the Vatican's holdings which he really doesn't.
 
2013-11-28 03:21:05 PM
ClearChannel vs. the Vatican? What a nice early Christmas present a month out. I'm not even Christian, and Pope Francis makes me want to convert.

Aside from the reasons already stated in the comments, ClearChannel is on my eternal shiat list for cancelling the only real rock station in the Bay Area (KSJO) with no warning or notice. And this is a station that had a legendary vault of live rock recordings;  from classic Bay Area concerts of Jimi Hendrix, Led Zepplin, The Who, Carlos Santana and Bob Marley up to the studio jam of 'Tuesday's Gone' by Metalica featuring Les Claypool, Jerry Cantrel, and Garry Rossington (this was a good 3 years before it got released on an album).

So yeah, fark Clear Channel. They deserve to be tied into a dying broadcasting model.
 
2013-11-28 03:30:24 PM

Fart_Machine: Which would suggest that the Pope has direct control over the Vatican's holdings which he really doesn't


Nonsense- of course he does. That he chooses to exercise that control within self-imposed restraints doesn't change the fact that he has control over Vatican holdings. Not even in some abstract, in-name-only sense. As a day-to-day matter the Pope absolutely has the final say over what investments the Vatican Bank makes or whether this-or-that building gets renovated at such-and-such expense, etc. He has more practical power over those holdings than Elizabeth II has over her holdings, and nobody would say with a straight face that she isn't rich.
 
2013-11-28 03:42:01 PM

Dansker: More_Like_A_Stain: I_Am_Weasel: /I know it's not 'your royal popeness'

El Poparino?

The Popemeister!


My google-fu came up with "Your Holiness".

Good thing I checked, cos I was about to go with "Your Eminence"...but I guess that's for the bishops.
 
2013-11-28 03:42:44 PM

Churchill2004: He has more practical power over those holdings than Elizabeth II has over her holdings, and nobody would say with a straight face that she isn't rich.


Probably because the Queen has an actual portfolio handled by the government.  In theory the Pope could say that all Catholic assets now belong to the public.  In reality if he tried to do this the Cardinals would probably find other means of removing him which historically isn't unheard of.
 
2013-11-28 03:42:53 PM
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2013-11-28 03:44:15 PM

syzygy whizz: Dansker: More_Like_A_Stain: I_Am_Weasel: /I know it's not 'your royal popeness'

El Poparino?

The Popemeister!

My google-fu came up with "Your Holiness".

Good thing I checked, cos I was about to go with "Your Eminence"...but I guess that's for the bishops.


George Carlin used to talk about 'ways to say hello'.  His favorite?  'How's your hammer hanging?'

"I always wanted to say that to a high church official.  'Good evening, your Holiness.  How hangs the hammer?'"
 
2013-11-28 03:49:16 PM
Pope Francis couldn't have chosen better adversaries: Sarah Palin, antisemitic Holocaust deniers, now Rush Limbaugh.

Based on current trends, it's only a matter of time before Kanye West denounces him.
 
2013-11-28 03:56:25 PM

Captain Dan: Pope Francis couldn't have chosen better adversaries: Sarah Palin, antisemitic Holocaust deniers, now Rush Limbaugh.

Based on current trends, it's only a matter of time before Kanye West denounces him.


I'm waiting to hear what John Rocker has to say.
 
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