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(KOB4)   Problem: Teen dies after overdosing on Ecstasy and allergy medicine while attending a concert. Solution: Ban alcohol sales at restaurants   (kob.com) divider line 90
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2013-11-27 07:10:05 PM
New Mexico now needs a tag.
 
2013-11-27 07:28:36 PM
Reminds me of a similar problem involving DUIs at a base in Germany. After numerous DUIs, the base commander banned alcohol at the base movie theater. Mind you, none of the DUIs originated and/or involved the theater as they left from the NCO Club, Officer Club, barracks and base housing.

But the commander took "effective management action" so there you go.
 
2013-11-27 07:38:37 PM
Whiskey
Tequila
F*ckup
?
 
2013-11-27 08:30:56 PM
gun control
 
2013-11-27 08:52:54 PM
New Mexico is the state that banned clove cigarettes because a somebody in the legislature's daughter smoked  two packs of them in a couple hours and got sick or died or something.
 
2013-11-27 09:26:32 PM
Republican logic detected.
 
2013-11-27 09:26:45 PM
Naturally the story leaves out who authored this garbage (repugnoncons) and the obvious issue that someone is obviously getting money out of the illegal drug trade and not legal liquor sales.
 
2013-11-27 09:27:45 PM
God I hate busybodies.

/ BUUUUT IT'S FUR DA CHULLREN!

No it's not, fark off.
 
2013-11-27 09:28:39 PM
WHAT you expected a real solution?
 
2013-11-27 09:28:54 PM
When is New Mexico going to get its own tag?
 
2013-11-27 09:31:04 PM
This reminds me of the loon that's trying to keep new Walmart Neighborhood Markets out of San Jose.
I'm no fan of Walmart, and there are plenty of reasons to oppose their further infiltration into society, but this guy takes the angle of opposing their liquor license. That would probably be the easiest way to get any store shut down, if that were actually something anybody cared about, which it isn't. His rants just come out sounding like a prohibitionist, rather an opponent of laissez-faire capitalism run amok.
 
2013-11-27 09:33:02 PM
That's why you drop Acid, and smoke a little weed to take off the edge. No deaths ever involved.
 
2013-11-27 09:33:35 PM
It's ridiculous the bullshiat people go through just to keep a couple underage kids from having a beer.
 
2013-11-27 09:36:17 PM

zimbach: This reminds me of the loon that's trying to keep new Walmart Neighborhood Markets out of San Jose.
I'm no fan of Walmart, and there are plenty of reasons to oppose their further infiltration into society, but this guy takes the angle of opposing their liquor license. That would probably be the easiest way to get any store shut down, if that were actually something anybody cared about, which it isn't. His rants just come out sounding like a prohibitionist, rather an opponent of laissez-faire capitalism run amok.


We had somebody like that (New Mexico again) opposing the retail (off premises) liquor license for a Wal Mart because the floor plan indicated that there would be a Mc Donald's in the store, and he was vehemently opposed to the idea of people being served beer in the McDonald's and getting drunk while their wife and kids were shopping, then driving them all home.
 
2013-11-27 09:37:59 PM
Excuse me while I go next door and break my neighbors coffee mug because my dog pee'd on the carpet.
 
2013-11-27 09:39:00 PM
Ban teens
 
2013-11-27 09:39:35 PM
Drugs and alcohol, there's nothing to do in this state! good thing we're getting an Applebees adjacent to the gun shop!
 
2013-11-27 09:41:17 PM

Harry_Seldon: That's why you drop Acid, and smoke a little weed to take off the edge. No deaths ever involved.


When real MDMA is involved there rarely are any deaths involved either. You have to consume a large amount of MDMA to get to the fatal overdose point. It's typically easier to overdose on aspirin.
 
2013-11-27 09:42:15 PM
there seem to be acceptable numbers of deaths associated with tobacco and alcohol, but one person dies from nearly any other drug and all hell breaks loose.

Personally I think the occasional person dying from E is no big deal, and that if it was regulated as pure MDMA there would be even fewer deaths.

No molecule is inherently evil: punish the behaviour, not the substance.

Also, treat em equally. don't gimme some BS that cigarettes and alcohol, as dangerous and addictive as they are, are somehow OK because fatcats are paid millions to keep them 'legal'.

Christ, what a farking world.
 
2013-11-27 09:43:14 PM

Ex-Texan: Drugs and alcohol, there's nothing to do in this state! good thing we're getting an Applebees adjacent to the gun shop!


I do like my shooting ranges to be close by.
 
2013-11-27 09:45:52 PM

MayoSlather: Harry_Seldon: That's why you drop Acid, and smoke a little weed to take off the edge. No deaths ever involved.

When real MDMA is involved there rarely are any deaths involved either. You have to consume a large amount of MDMA to get to the fatal overdose point. It's typically easier to overdose on aspirin.


Since you sound like you know what you are talking about - why would anyone take allergy medicine to stack on it?!
 
2013-11-27 09:45:57 PM

MayoSlather: Harry_Seldon: That's why you drop Acid, and smoke a little weed to take off the edge. No deaths ever involved.

When real MDMA is involved there rarely are any deaths involved either. You have to consume a large amount of MDMA to get to the fatal overdose point. It's typically easier to overdose on aspirin.


It's very easy to overdose on aspirin.

1.  Take bottle of aspirin.
2.  Die a few weeks later of liver failure.

/or was it kidney failure?  either way, as an attempted suicide, no transplant for you
 
2013-11-27 09:46:10 PM

mrEdude: there seem to be acceptable numbers of deaths associated with tobacco and alcohol, but one person dies from nearly any other drug and all hell breaks loose.

Personally I think the occasional person dying from E is no big deal, and that if it was regulated as pure MDMA there would be even fewer deaths.

No molecule is inherently evil: punish the behaviour, not the substance.

Also, treat em equally. don't gimme some BS that cigarettes and alcohol, as dangerous and addictive as they are, are somehow OK because fatcats are paid millions to keep them 'legal'.

Christ, what a farking world.


Oh, F you and your reasonable opinion.
 
2013-11-27 09:46:12 PM
Clearly the problem is allergy medicine, idiots.
 
2013-11-27 09:46:27 PM
ban kids from bars, not restaurants that serve alcohol.

I saw a concert at some little dive bar (that didn't serve food) one time and they let in people under 21, but had the area for adults roped off.  As soon as the show started some teen hopped over the rope.  Security was all over his ass in 2 seconds flat.  I laughed, but really when I go to a bar, I do not want to see ids there.

Okay, this has nothing to do with ecstasy - I doubt anyone at that place was doing ecstasy.  Probably a lot of pot had been smoked, and maybe there were people doing coke or something, but I just thought I'd throw that out there.

Keep kids out of bars!
 
2013-11-27 09:47:26 PM

buzzcut73: zimbach: This reminds me of the loon that's trying to keep new Walmart Neighborhood Markets out of San Jose.
I'm no fan of Walmart, and there are plenty of reasons to oppose their further infiltration into society, but this guy takes the angle of opposing their liquor license. That would probably be the easiest way to get any store shut down, if that were actually something anybody cared about, which it isn't. His rants just come out sounding like a prohibitionist, rather an opponent of laissez-faire capitalism run amok.

We had somebody like that (New Mexico again) opposing the retail (off premises) liquor license for a Wal Mart because the floor plan indicated that there would be a Mc Donald's in the store, and he was vehemently opposed to the idea of people being served beer in the McDonald's and getting drunk while their wife and kids were shopping, then driving them all home.


And if someone bought a condom, then they might go out and have sex, and then later they could have unprotected sex with the girl and they might get pregnant, and then have a baby, and she would be a teenager, and they would be promoting teenage sex and also she would be on welfare and drop out of high school to raise her baby; so the thing to do is oppose birth control education in high schools.
 
2013-11-27 09:47:44 PM
What was the problem again?
 
2013-11-27 09:48:09 PM
No, just ban teens. Problem solved.
 
2013-11-27 09:48:23 PM

Mister Peejay: MayoSlather: Harry_Seldon: That's why you drop Acid, and smoke a little weed to take off the edge. No deaths ever involved.

When real MDMA is involved there rarely are any deaths involved either. You have to consume a large amount of MDMA to get to the fatal overdose point. It's typically easier to overdose on aspirin.

It's very easy to overdose on aspirin.

1.  Take bottle of aspirin.
2.  Die a few weeks later of liver failure.

/or was it kidney failure?  either way, as an attempted suicide, no transplant for you


It is Tylenol that will destroy your liver in above recommended dosages, and you don't need to take a bottle of it.
 
2013-11-27 09:50:16 PM
WHICH ecstasy? What's in it?

MDMA is actually not terribly dangerous, but "ecstasy" can be any number or combination of things now. Kinda like bathtub gin. Not very safe that way, especially mixed with yet more drugs...

Maybe if he had purer drugs he wouldn't be in the ground. Then again, some people never know when to stop, and won't until they're dead. Alcohol poisoning an cirrhosis pretty much prove this point.
 
2013-11-27 09:50:39 PM

GriffXX: Since you sound like you know what you are talking about - why would anyone take allergy medicine to stack on it?!


I haven't a clue. Could be coincidental for all I know.


Mister Peejay: /or was it kidney failure?  either way, as an attempted suicide, no transplant for you


Liver. Thousands die each year in the US due to an overdose. Often times they'll take aspirin over the recommended dose and something like Dayquil which also contains aspirin and their liver shuts down.
 
2013-11-27 09:53:39 PM
I see you've met the temperance crowd.

Unfortunately neither alcohol bans nor weed prohibition will help the youngsters who get off on uppers.  Ban dancing, or something.  I dunno

/Never really saw the appeal
 
2013-11-27 09:53:54 PM
The kid should have gone pharmaceutical grade, not that crunchy, herbal rave shiat.
 
2013-11-27 09:54:10 PM

Astorix: When is New Mexico going to get its own tag?


It needs to be something like this, but turned sideways...

imageshack.com
 
2013-11-27 09:54:33 PM
Harry_Seldon:

It is Tylenol that will destroy your liver in above recommended dosages, and you don't need to take a bottle of it.

Thanks.  I knew it was one of those.

I do an end-run around the issue by not taking any kind of pain meds altogether.  I'll deal with achy joints the old fashioned way: suck it up and deal with it.
 
2013-11-27 09:55:31 PM
Whatever we have to do to prevent this:
 
2013-11-27 09:55:51 PM

GriffXX: MayoSlather: Harry_Seldon: That's why you drop Acid, and smoke a little weed to take off the edge. No deaths ever involved.

When real MDMA is involved there rarely are any deaths involved either. You have to consume a large amount of MDMA to get to the fatal overdose point. It's typically easier to overdose on aspirin.

Since you sound like you know what you are talking about - why would anyone take allergy medicine to stack on it?!


I have no idea. It would have helped if they'd told us what kind of allergy medicine it was. My guess would be something like Benadryl that makes you sleepy, like some sort of halfass version of a speedball.

Almost all the deaths linked to E have been from overheating and/or dehydration. Even rarer are the deaths from drinking TOO MUCH water, causing hyponatremia, but that takes an awful lot of water. Death due to MDMA toxicity itself is almost unheard of.
 
2013-11-27 09:57:19 PM

Harry_Seldon: Mister Peejay: MayoSlather: Harry_Seldon: That's why you drop Acid, and smoke a little weed to take off the edge. No deaths ever involved.

When real MDMA is involved there rarely are any deaths involved either. You have to consume a large amount of MDMA to get to the fatal overdose point. It's typically easier to overdose on aspirin.

It's very easy to overdose on aspirin.

1.  Take bottle of aspirin.
2.  Die a few weeks later of liver failure.

/or was it kidney failure?  either way, as an attempted suicide, no transplant for you

It is Tylenol that will destroy your liver in above recommended dosages, and you don't need to take a bottle of it.


Tylenol is the number one cause of acute kidney failure, and second for liver.
 
2013-11-27 09:57:46 PM

Harry_Seldon: Mister Peejay: MayoSlather: Harry_Seldon: That's why you drop Acid, and smoke a little weed to take off the edge. No deaths ever involved.

When real MDMA is involved there rarely are any deaths involved either. You have to consume a large amount of MDMA to get to the fatal overdose point. It's typically easier to overdose on aspirin.

It's very easy to overdose on aspirin.

1.  Take bottle of aspirin.
2.  Die a few weeks later of liver failure.

/or was it kidney failure?  either way, as an attempted suicide, no transplant for you

It is Tylenol that will destroy your liver in above recommended dosages, and you don't need to take a bottle of it.


Had a GF who tried to commit suicide with aspirin. Didn't kill her but it did somehow succeed in making her almost deaf in one ear.
 
2013-11-27 09:58:05 PM

GriffXX: MayoSlather: Harry_Seldon: That's why you drop Acid, and smoke a little weed to take off the edge. No deaths ever involved.

When real MDMA is involved there rarely are any deaths involved either. You have to consume a large amount of MDMA to get to the fatal overdose point. It's typically easier to overdose on aspirin.

Since you sound like you know what you are talking about - why would anyone take allergy medicine to stack on it?!


Allergy medicine combined with X makes for spectacular hallucinations.  Just crazy wild stuff.
 
2013-11-27 10:00:46 PM

fusillade762: Harry_Seldon: Mister Peejay: MayoSlather: Harry_Seldon: That's why you drop Acid, and smoke a little weed to take off the edge. No deaths ever involved.

When real MDMA is involved there rarely are any deaths involved either. You have to consume a large amount of MDMA to get to the fatal overdose point. It's typically easier to overdose on aspirin.

It's very easy to overdose on aspirin.

1.  Take bottle of aspirin.
2.  Die a few weeks later of liver failure.

/or was it kidney failure?  either way, as an attempted suicide, no transplant for you

It is Tylenol that will destroy your liver in above recommended dosages, and you don't need to take a bottle of it.

Had a GF who tried to commit suicide with aspirin. Didn't kill her but it did somehow succeed in making her almost deaf in one ear.


Aspirin does that. If I take it or anything with aspirin in it, I get awful tinnitus in both ears--drives me insane.
 
2013-11-27 10:01:09 PM
They're just following the federal government's logic. After all, a bunch of Saudis flew planes into our buildings, so logically, we invaded Iraq.
 
2013-11-27 10:02:19 PM
OK, this is getting tiresome.  She did not get Molly, which is pure MDMA.  She got a mix that probably contained Methylone.  Molly is pure MDMA and that's it.

GriffXX: MayoSlather: Harry_Seldon: That's why you drop Acid, and smoke a little weed to take off the edge. No deaths ever involved.

When real MDMA is involved there rarely are any deaths involved either. You have to consume a large amount of MDMA to get to the fatal overdose point. It's typically easier to overdose on aspirin.

Since you sound like you know what you are talking about - why would anyone take allergy medicine to stack on it?!


There is no reason to stack it with the diphenhydromine as far as I know unless it would supposedly make you loopier, but I don't know why you would need it if you have MDMA.

I'm in an FDA and DEA approved MDMA study for treating PTSD, and the only thing that I get is Gatorade and maybe an Ambien that night if I can't go to sleep 5 hours after coming down from the treatment.  This person got bad drugs and bad advice.  Also, if she took $100 worth she is a moron because 100mgs is enough to totally dump your serotonin thus making any more useless.

Final verdict, she got sold bath salts in a capsule, took way too much, and ingested a lot of Benedryl.
 
2013-11-27 10:02:59 PM
New Mexico has always needed a tag. Went there once when I was 23. My friend was 21. They wouldn't let him drink because his license was vertical. Natural result of liberal policy I guess.

Slutter McGee
 
2013-11-27 10:04:22 PM

fusillade762: GriffXX: MayoSlather: Harry_Seldon: That's why you drop Acid, and smoke a little weed to take off the edge. No deaths ever involved.

When real MDMA is involved there rarely are any deaths involved either. You have to consume a large amount of MDMA to get to the fatal overdose point. It's typically easier to overdose on aspirin.

Since you sound like you know what you are talking about - why would anyone take allergy medicine to stack on it?!

I have no idea. It would have helped if they'd told us what kind of allergy medicine it was. My guess would be something like Benadryl that makes you sleepy, like some sort of halfass version of a speedball.

Almost all the deaths linked to E have been from overheating and/or dehydration. Even rarer are the deaths from drinking TOO MUCH water, causing hyponatremia, but that takes an awful lot of water. Death due to MDMA toxicity itself is almost unheard of.


Yup, this^
 
2013-11-27 10:05:39 PM
Alcohol is a gateway drug. How many people have been drunk have also done hard drugs.
 
2013-11-27 10:11:16 PM

fusillade762: Harry_Seldon: Mister Peejay: MayoSlather: Harry_Seldon: That's why you drop Acid, and smoke a little weed to take off the edge. No deaths ever involved.

When real MDMA is involved there rarely are any deaths involved either. You have to consume a large amount of MDMA to get to the fatal overdose point. It's typically easier to overdose on aspirin.

It's very easy to overdose on aspirin.

1.  Take bottle of aspirin.
2.  Die a few weeks later of liver failure.

/or was it kidney failure?  either way, as an attempted suicide, no transplant for you

It is Tylenol that will destroy your liver in above recommended dosages, and you don't need to take a bottle of it.

Had a GF who tried to commit suicide with aspirin. Didn't kill her but it did somehow succeed in making her almost deaf in one ear.


WHAT DID YOU SAY? I HAVE A BAD HEADACHE AND JUST TOOK A BUNCH OF BAYER
 
2013-11-27 10:12:30 PM
Im no chemist, but you would have to take a lot of X to overdose. It was probably designer drug methylone, which the kids these days call molly, even though molly REALLY means pure X. And why the fark would you take Benedryl?! Its the exact opposite of a good time.
If you're that farking stupid Darwin was going to get you sooner or later.
 
2013-11-27 10:14:00 PM

fusillade762: Had a GF who tried to commit suicide with aspirin. Didn't kill her but it did somehow succeed in making her almost deaf in one ear.


Lucky for her she didn't stuff it in both of them
 
2013-11-27 10:15:47 PM
This read like satire.

Stop the planet, I want off.
 
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