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2013-11-27 01:24:12 AM  
Richter and the girl's mother, Sophia Richter, 32 were arrested and each charged with three counts of kidnapping

How do you kidnap your own kids?  Did someone else have custody of them?
 
2013-11-27 01:28:06 AM  
So is this pissant going to off himself before he gets the needle/life?
 
2013-11-27 01:28:57 AM  
metrouk2.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-11-27 01:29:10 AM  

fusillade762: How do you kidnap your own kids? Did someone else have custody of them?


If you share joint custody and flee leaving no new address, with the purpose of keeping the children from the other party, kidnapping is an easy charge to nail. It's the most common form of kidnapping IIRC
 
2013-11-27 01:31:09 AM  
"I can assure you we're doing everything we can to make sure these kids are kept safe," Capt. Michael Gillooly said at a news conference.

I wonder if this police captain is any relation to the infamous Jeff Gillooly. Wouldn't that be a kick in the shins!
 
2013-11-27 01:31:39 AM  

fusillade762: Richter and the girl's mother, Sophia Richter, 32 were arrested and each charged with three counts of kidnapping

How do you kidnap your own kids?  Did someone else have custody of them?


I could see making it at least false imprisonment, child endangerment, etc. But yeah, kidnapping is a confusing term for this.
 
2013-11-27 01:33:39 AM  

fusillade762: Richter and the girl's mother, Sophia Richter, 32 were arrested and each charged with three counts of kidnapping

How do you kidnap your own kids?  Did someone else have custody of them?


Just by holding them hostage and abusing them it is kidnapping, even if your own child.
 
2013-11-27 01:33:51 AM  

fusillade762: Richter and the girl's mother, Sophia Richter, 32 were arrested and each charged with three counts of kidnapping

How do you kidnap your own kids?  Did someone else have custody of them?


The kidnapping statute in Arizona is very broad.  Essentially, any time you purposefully restrict someone from leaving an area, it's kidnapping.   Source.

And yay, my home town made the news.  Not quite Ariel Castro, but still an ugly story.
 
2013-11-27 01:35:32 AM  
Have them bathed and. . . Chris Hanson? I love your "To catch a. . ." oh, I'll just have a seat.
 
2013-11-27 01:38:45 AM  
Finally a positive uplifting story to restore faith in the essential beneficence of humanity. Oh....oh I see, nevermind, yeah scratch that off the record...
 
2013-11-27 01:39:47 AM  
The getaway car

www.mydadstoys.co.uk

/obscure
//because the headline
 
2013-11-27 01:47:10 AM  
Another day, another oxygen thief
 
2013-11-27 01:47:30 AM  

HotWingAgenda: fusillade762: Richter and the girl's mother, Sophia Richter, 32 were arrested and each charged with three counts of kidnapping

How do you kidnap your own kids?  Did someone else have custody of them?

I could see making it at least false imprisonment, child endangerment, etc. But yeah, kidnapping is a confusing term for this.


It could just be that way there laws are written. It usually has something to do with Unlawful Detainment.
 
2013-11-27 01:47:31 AM  
RELATED: ARIEL CASTRO DID NOT DIE OF AUTOEROTIC ASPHYXIATION: REPORT

WTF? Unless I'm mistaken he hung himself in prison. Who thought he just got carried away whacking it?
 
2013-11-27 01:51:42 AM  

TheGogmagog: RELATED: ARIEL CASTRO DID NOT DIE OF AUTOEROTIC ASPHYXIATION: REPORT

WTF? Unless I'm mistaken he hung himself in prison. Who thought he just got carried away whacking it?


A not uncommon consequence of autoerotic asphyxiation is accidental strangulation/hanging... apparently there was some detail with how he was found that made them question it.

Or, you know, they just made it up to make him look like an even sicker bastard than he already was.
 
2013-11-27 01:54:16 AM  
How many of these cases does everyone think exist in America? How many situations of imprisonment (either minors or adults). It is scary to think that maybe right next door....
 
2013-11-27 01:56:25 AM  
Damn...I got excited...I confused with Raul Castro.
 
2013-11-27 02:01:02 AM  
Slavery is not a capital offense.  It should be.  It's actually a worse crime than just outright murdering someone.  Taking away someone's freedom like this is so offensive to everything I believe in, I would volunteer to throw the damn switch.
 
2013-11-27 02:02:57 AM  

symptomoftheuniverse: How many of these cases does everyone think exist in America? How many situations of imprisonment (either minors or adults). It is scary to think that maybe right next door....


An astounding 2,300 Americans are reported missing every day, including both adults and children
 
2013-11-27 02:14:25 AM  

Popular Opinion: symptomoftheuniverse: How many of these cases does everyone think exist in America? How many situations of imprisonment (either minors or adults). It is scary to think that maybe right next door....

An astounding 2,300 Americans are reported missing every day, including both adults and children


It but I would gather once you take out custodial interference and Voluntary dropouts you cut that number down by 90%
 
2013-11-27 02:14:43 AM  
Here I thought it was the Cuban Castro. Seriously, though, I don't even have kids and my protective instincts were kicking in while reading that story. Ex gf has two munchkins I bonded with while we were dating. Anything happens to them, the offending person better have a good head start. Nothing ITG about it, I love those kids.
 
2013-11-27 02:14:46 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: "I can assure you we're doing everything we can to make sure these kids are kept safe," Capt. Michael Gillooly said at a news conference.

I wonder if this police captain is any relation to the infamous Jeff Gillooly. Wouldn't that be a kick in the shins!


The guy who clubbed Nancy Kerrigan's knees?
 
2013-11-27 02:24:47 AM  

The Onion is prophetic: fusillade762: Richter and the girl's mother, Sophia Richter, 32 were arrested and each charged with three counts of kidnapping

How do you kidnap your own kids?  Did someone else have custody of them?

The kidnapping statute in Arizona is very broad.  Essentially, any time you purposefully restrict someone from leaving an area, it's kidnapping.   Source.


Thanks for the link. From that:

A person commits kidnapping by knowingly restraining another person with the intent to ... Inflict death, physical injury or a sexual offense on the victim

I guess that covers it in this situation. Otherwise I could see a lot of Arizona parents having this conversation with their kids:

"You're grounded."

"I'M CALLING THE POLICE!"
 
2013-11-27 02:54:58 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: "I can assure you we're doing everything we can to make sure these kids are kept safe," Capt. Michael Gillooly said at a news conference.

I wonder if this police captain is any relation to the infamous Jeff Gillooly. Wouldn't that be a kick in the shins!


Why him? WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYY??????????
 
2013-11-27 02:58:30 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-11-27 03:34:19 AM  
What in the capital fark is wrong with people?
 
2013-11-27 04:01:03 AM  
I guess I'm the first to point it out, but based on the info in the article, the mom was 14 or 15 when she had her oldest daughter, and between 18-20 when she had the other two  I'm guessing she has never had the kind of stability that would help her to realize the crap her husband was doing was totally wrong and she should leave him for the kids.
 
2013-11-27 04:02:33 AM  
How do these things even happen?

At some point they went to school, or must be on the grid somehow.

How do three minors simply stop existing, and no one looks into it?
 
2013-11-27 04:05:37 AM  

a login name very similar to this one: How do these things even happen?

At some point they went to school, or must be on the grid somehow.

How do three minors simply stop existing, and no one looks into it?


Move, take kids, leave kids in a hole and pretend you have no kids.  No one is watching.  No one cares.
 
2013-11-27 04:13:02 AM  

a login name very similar to this one: How do three minors simply stop existing, and no one looks into it?


That's what moving or homeschooling is for.
 
2013-11-27 04:49:01 AM  
Who the hell greenlights these headlines?

Subby and whoever greenlit this should feel bad - not just because of the story, but because it's making a sick joke out of it.
 
2013-11-27 04:58:56 AM  
Welcometofark.jpg in 3....2....1....
 
2013-11-27 05:09:06 AM  
So are we counting the one in London last week as a remake rather than a sequel?
 
2013-11-27 05:34:56 AM  

The Onion is prophetic: TheGogmagog: RELATED: ARIEL CASTRO DID NOT DIE OF AUTOEROTIC ASPHYXIATION: REPORT

WTF? Unless I'm mistaken he hung himself in prison. Who thought he just got carried away whacking it?

A not uncommon consequence of autoerotic asphyxiation is accidental strangulation/hanging... apparently there was some detail with how he was found that made them question it.

Or, you know, they just made it up to make him look like an even sicker bastard than he already was.


That's pretty offensive. Some people get their kicks different ways than you do. If someone wants to choke themselves, that's something they are willingly doing with their own bodies. For you to label then as "sick" and "bastards" makes you a "diarrhea-guzzling ashore" and you can go f yourself up the a, while you probably smoke a cigarette that is statistically hundreds of times more likely to kill a smoker than auto-erotic asphyxiation is to kill an auto-erotic asphyxiator.
 
2013-11-27 05:35:20 AM  

Brigandaca: So are we counting the one in London last week as a remake rather than a sequel?


We have our own scoring system over here. It's a contest. They're winning though.

gfid: Who the hell greenlights these headlines?

Subby and whoever greenlit this should feel bad - not just because of the story, but because it's making a sick joke out of it.


Haha, I almost thought I wasn't on Fark for a second there!
 
2013-11-27 05:36:05 AM  
ashore/asshole
 
2013-11-27 05:45:43 AM  

Slaxl: Brigandaca: So are we counting the one in London last week as a remake rather than a sequel?

We have our own scoring system over here. It's a contest. They're winning though.


Depends if you're counting number of victims of combined years of imprisonment.  If the latter, then I think London has the edge.
 
2013-11-27 06:18:39 AM  
I mean, my parents used to threaten to ground me for two years, but I never thought a parent would go through with it.... kids everywhere, beware.
 
2013-11-27 07:03:51 AM  
The neighbors would have called about the smell but the smell was not at all unusual for that neighborhood.
 
2013-11-27 07:35:29 AM  

Kalashinator: So is this pissant going to off himself before he gets the needle/life?


I sure hope so.
 
2013-11-27 07:35:57 AM  
What the fark is wrong with women?  Why are so many willing to share a bed with their children's rapists or sweep physical abuse under the rug or look the other way when their partner is emotionally abusing their children?  Sure, some men let their second wives terrorize the step-kids but you never hear about some guy standing by while his new wife locked his children in a diddler dungeon.
 
2013-11-27 07:38:35 AM  

The Onion is prophetic: TheGogmagog: RELATED: ARIEL CASTRO DID NOT DIE OF AUTOEROTIC ASPHYXIATION: REPORT

WTF? Unless I'm mistaken he hung himself in prison. Who thought he just got carried away whacking it?

A not uncommon consequence of autoerotic asphyxiation is accidental strangulation/hanging... apparently there was some detail with how he was found that made them question it.

Or, you know, they just made it up to make him look like an even sicker bastard than he already was.


Who gives a fark?  I'm GLAD he is dead.  At least my tax dollars won't go to supporting some sick fark for the rest of his life.
 
2013-11-27 07:38:59 AM  

Brigandaca: So are we counting the one in London last week as a remake rather than a sequel?


The one in London was a remake of the Ariel Castro one for a different market. Kinda like the american version of Top Gear.
This one is a sequel to the first.
 
2013-11-27 07:45:25 AM  

Omnis_evil_twin: What the fark is wrong with women?  Why are so many willing to share a bed with their children's rapists or sweep physical abuse under the rug or look the other way when their partner is emotionally abusing their children?  Sure, some men let their second wives terrorize the step-kids but you never hear about some guy standing by while his new wife locked his children in a diddler dungeon.


I don't understand how any biological parent could do that. I can understand how people themselves end up stuck in abusive situations, but unable to act in defense of their own children? No, that I don't get. It makes me think that they're psychopaths or narcissists or somehow otherwise impaired to where they simply must not have empathy for their own children.
 
2013-11-27 07:52:32 AM  
I can't believe Fark missed it, but this is part 3. It happened in London last week, too.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2511842/Women-kept-slaves-Lo nd on-met-suspect-shared-ideology.html
 
2013-11-27 07:57:42 AM  

OgreMagi: Slavery is not a capital offense.  It should be.  It's actually a worse crime than just outright murdering someone.  Taking away someone's freedom like this is so offensive to everything I believe in, I would volunteer to throw the damn switch.


I will pay the electric bill.  Twice!!!  Just for good measure...
 
2013-11-27 08:00:10 AM  

Endive Wombat: OgreMagi: Slavery is not a capital offense.  It should be.  It's actually a worse crime than just outright murdering someone.  Taking away someone's freedom like this is so offensive to everything I believe in, I would volunteer to throw the damn switch.

I will pay the electric bill.  Twice!!!  Just for good measure...


Just to chime in, it's not worse than death. You can recover from slavery. Death you can't really recover from. No question or debate as to the heinous nature, I'm with you there. But it's not worse than death. That you might choose to die rather than be a slave would be your choice. Someone murdering you, removes all choice from you and takes your life.

That's the worst thing.
 
2013-11-27 08:00:12 AM  

Omnis_evil_twin: What the fark is wrong with women?  Why are so many willing to share a bed with their children's rapists or sweep physical abuse under the rug or look the other way when their partner is emotionally abusing their children?  Sure, some men let their second wives terrorize the step-kids but you never hear about some guy standing by while his new wife locked his children in a diddler dungeon.


I think it says a lot about the woman who decides to live with that kind of monster voluntarily. She wouldn't necessarily be malicious as... negligent. A lot of the "quiet" mothers who let the abusive fathers run loose might do it for any number of reasons.

One is the fear of the unknown. They would ask themselves whether or not they or their children could survive without the man around. Regardless of how much of a monster he is -- sometimes the fear of leaving that abusive life behind is even scarier than the abuse itself. Some women may not be able to handle the task of being a single mother. Some might be afraid of the man and that by threatening his control, they might be in danger. They could be living in mortal fear of the man. After all, if she dies... then who knows what could happen to their children if she's dead? She might be deluding herself into thinking she can 'help' or at least 'lessen' the abuse by being around.

She could also be similarly abused by the man. The "quiet" mothers might come from a background of abuse themselves and their warped idea of what a 'good' husband is... would be similar to their own fathers who might have abused them and/or their siblings and mother. Their own warped idea of what a family is 'supposed' to be like could be from their own childhood. There's a chance the man abuses the mother as well, and you just don't hear about it. If not physically assaulting her, he could be mentally and emotionally abusing her whenever she tries to speak up or against him. These monsters are manipulative and they can know the exact buttons to push on another person (particularly a woman they've lived with for some time) to get them to submit to them.

It could also be mental trauma in of itself. The woman could be so shocked she could be desensitized to it. By turning a blind eye and being willfully ignorant of the situation, she saves herself from further emotional damage. By pretending the abuse doesn't exist -- she convinces herself that it doesn't. This isn't just abuse -- this is a trait found in many human beings. We see it all the time in everyday life. We pretend something horrendous doesn't exist, therefore it doesn't. It's a very common coping mechanism -- and completely ineffectual. The mind tries to save itself. This is particularly the case for submissive women who don't like confrontation or conflict. Some would rather suffer and see others suffer than grow a spine and speak up.

The woman is not always a willing partner -- in many cases she's just as abused and manipulated as the children are.
 
2013-11-27 08:03:40 AM  

ransack.: "diarrhea-guzzling ashore"


Is that better or worse than diarrhea-guzzling at sea?
 
2013-11-27 08:11:27 AM  
ok, locking kids up like that is bad, but hiding an auto-play video in the middle of a text article is worse. FFS, at least put that shiat at the top so I don't have to play "where's waldo" trying to stop it.
 
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