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(New Hampshire Journal)   The war on conservative women goes on, led by the misogynistic left. Here's the latest Republican hottie they have turned their guns on   (nhjournal.com ) divider line 44
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2013-11-26 04:29:28 PM  
9 votes:
Saying that she's of the same ilk as another politician, but that the difference is that she wears heels, is not misogynistic.  Calling her a mental lightweight or comparing her unfavorably to someone like Kim Kardashian is also not misogynistic.  Words have meanings, learn to use them.
2013-11-26 05:08:30 PM  
5 votes:

BlastYoBoots: serial_crusher: timujin: Saying that she's of the same ilk as another politician, but that the difference is that she wears heels, is not misogynistic.  Calling her a mental lightweight or comparing her unfavorably to someone like Kim Kardashian is also not misogynistic.  Words have meanings, learn to use them.

What if you said that a particular candidate should be in the kitchen instead of in the white house or some such?  I mean, you could technically say that of either a man or a woman, so if you happened to say it about a woman it wouldn't be sexist, right?

/ sexist or not, it's certainly petty name calling.  Unless Kardashian has entered politics herself, I don't see why comparing a politician to her is relevant.

Part of me wants to agree with you, but the other part of me gets a kick out of something like one of you guys referring to Sarah Palin as "Snow Snooki" a couple weeks ago.



Given that Palin abruptly left public service mid-term for a life of grifting and 'reality' television, I think anybody should be able to call her "snow Snooki" and still rest easy at night.
2013-11-26 05:07:52 PM  
4 votes:

BlastYoBoots: Part of me wants to agree with you, but the other part of me gets a kick out of something like one of you guys referring to Sarah Palin as "Snow Snooki" a couple weeks ago.


Sarah Palin has spent longer as a reality TV star than a politician. The compassion is apt.
2013-11-26 04:40:18 PM  
4 votes:
FTFA: For too long women in our society have been judged by their appearance rather than their accomplishments and made subject to the ignorant assaults of men

And then subby called her a "hottie".
2013-11-26 05:59:19 PM  
3 votes:

Huggermugger: Isn't she running as a hottie?  Isn't she posing seductively for her campaign shots?  Isn't she professionally made-up and hairdressed?  Isn't she cashing in on her sex appeal?

/yes x4


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This is the last time a politician did not use professional hair and makeup for a photoshoot or television appearance.

A young attractive woman is running for Congress. Let's focus on her bad ideas, not her nice ass.
2013-11-26 05:29:25 PM  
3 votes:
She voted three times to make photo ID mandatory at elections.

You don't need to comment on her shoes to show that she's a bad choice.
2013-11-26 05:21:49 PM  
3 votes:
While I agree his comments were somewhat sexist, I also think that if femininity is off the table as a target, then masculinity should be as well... Women should stop trading on "old boys clubs" type remarks or playing on some idea that men are inherently clueless and self-serving and that being a woman brings you some greater capacity for empathy, understanding, and concern.

Either being a woman is an issue or it's not. You don't get to have it both ways.

It's like the stiletto heels remark. Does she wear stiletto heels? If so, then STFU. You don't get to try to trade on your looks and sexuality and then cry foul if you're called out on it.

"Pretty boy" politicians like John Edwards and Scott Brown take shiat for their looks. It's not sexist that glamour girl female politicians face the same. It's sexist if women are treated like fragile little porcelain dolls who can't handle "the game" the way men can and expect to get to play from the "ladies' tee."
2013-11-26 05:03:28 PM  
3 votes:

sammyk: Car_Ramrod: The mistake conservatives and libertarians keep making is that we try to be polite to the criminals and crazies of the left, hoping that they will grow up. They never do, and they assume our courtesy is just weakness. We think we can negotiate compromise with evil, but aside from the moral failure of that approach, the liberals never accept comprise - they just keep demanding more (the John McCain fallacy).

We don't want to become as dishonest and criminal as they are, but that means that we damn well have to learn to be just as tough, or more so.

Because calling someone an crazy evil dishonest criminal is being very polite.


Yeah. If conservatives and libertarians are claiming to be "polite" to the left, I would really hate to see "rude" (but I'm pretty sure it involves firearms).
2013-11-26 07:35:47 PM  
2 votes:
The GOP is outraged by this attack on women!

And now back to your regularly scheduled Hillary Clinton pantsuit joke.
2013-11-26 07:34:57 PM  
2 votes:

Mikey1969: Sullivan compared the three-term State Representative, who holds a Master's degree from Harvard's Kennedy School of Government, to reality television celebrity Kim Kardashian.

Um, that's not "sexist".

He went on to refer to her as "[Republican State Rep.] Al Baldasarro [sic] in stiletto heels" ...

Meh, that really isn't, either.

...and "a lightweight."

Yeh, ALSO "not sexist". Farking morons. Learn what the word means before you try and lob it back. Oh, and also quote more than a SINGLE Democrat if you're going to label the attack as being made by "Democrats".


Yeaaah...it's not  polite, but it's not a comment on her gender other than saying 'she's exactly the same as X but a girl'. Sure, I'm not a fan of rudeness, but it's not actually sexist except to radfem lunatics.
2013-11-26 05:54:29 PM  
2 votes:
Isn't she running as a hottie?  Isn't she posing seductively for her campaign shots?  Isn't she professionally made-up and hairdressed?  Isn't she cashing in on her sex appeal?

/yes x4
2013-11-26 05:20:01 PM  
2 votes:
Democrats should hold themselves to a higher standard rather than behaving like republicans.
2013-11-26 05:16:58 PM  
2 votes:

phaseolus: colon_pow: it's okay when they do it.


Actually, it's not.

Unless she's routinely described as 'one of the few sane, thoughtful Republicans' or 'pragmatic moderate', I'm sure she has plenty of horrible Repubby opinions that she can be fairly criticized for. "xxxxx in heels" attacks are stupid, no matter where they come from.


It was an asshole thing to say, no doubt about it. Screw that guy.

But you gotta also love the fact that the story's first sentence is false ("New Hampshire Democrats" although it was one rep) and that the Weeners is "Nationally, libs are disgusting pieces of shiat and random stories of this nature justify this reputation." Thanks for reminding everybody who the bigger assholes are.
2013-11-26 05:03:36 PM  
2 votes:

colon_pow: it's okay when they do it.



Actually, it's not.

Unless she's routinely described as 'one of the few sane, thoughtful Republicans' or 'pragmatic moderate', I'm sure she has plenty of horrible Repubby opinions that she can be fairly criticized for. "xxxxx in heels" attacks are stupid, no matter where they come from.
2013-11-26 04:50:50 PM  
2 votes:
I do have to say, she apparently called the GOP "the party of old, white men", and propped up her femininity as a selling point.  It might be fair to say she opened the flood gates.
2013-11-26 04:42:12 PM  
2 votes:

timujin: Saying that she's of the same ilk as another politician, but that the difference is that she wears heels, is not misogynistic.  Calling her a mental lightweight or comparing her unfavorably to someone like Kim Kardashian is also not misogynistic.  Words have meanings, learn to use them.


What if you said that a particular candidate should be in the kitchen instead of in the white house or some such?  I mean, you could technically say that of either a man or a woman, so if you happened to say it about a woman it wouldn't be sexist, right?

/ sexist or not, it's certainly petty name calling.  Unless Kardashian has entered politics herself, I don't see why comparing a politician to her is relevant.
2013-11-27 08:29:43 AM  
1 vote:
So, let me get this straight.  Attacking a woman candidate = a war on women.

That woman candidate belongs to the GOP, a party that:

Opposes equal pay for women
Opposes reproductive rights, birth control, and a woman's right to choose
Opposes the ACA (which helps women - especially regarding child birth - by increasing the insurance pool and expanding medicaid)
Opposes marriage equality
Opposes a living wage for single working mothers
Opposes food stamps, SNAP, and other programs that help mothers in poverty feed their children
Opposes workers' rights
Consistently sides with big business and wealthy special interests, which are overwhelmingly run by and benefit a small number of wealthy men
Consistently characterizes anti-discrimination laws as vehicles for "frivolous litigation" and as imposing a "huge cost on businesses"


So remember kids, what people say in political campaigns is far more important than their substantive policy positions.
2013-11-26 09:40:06 PM  
1 vote:

Zeb Hesselgresser: Lee Jackson Beauregard: Remember, boys and girls:  It is sexist to call a moran a moran if she's a woman.

Probably for the same reason that it's racist to disagree with a black person, eh?


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2013-11-26 09:31:23 PM  
1 vote:

Shryke: LasersHurt: Something that has never been true, but has been a frequent complaint of racists and morons


Which one is Oprah? Or  both?


I await your citation that Oprah has said that any and all disagreements with Black people are racist.

/just kidding I am not waiting for anything, you and I both know you're full of shiat.
2013-11-26 09:24:08 PM  
1 vote:

Zeb Hesselgresser: Lee Jackson Beauregard: Remember, boys and girls:  It is sexist to call a moran a moran if she's a woman.

Probably for the same reason that it's racist to disagree with a black person, eh?


Not only do you not really have a point, there was no reason to mark your response in all bold.

We can see you just fine.
2013-11-26 09:01:11 PM  
1 vote:

Zeb Hesselgresser: Lee Jackson Beauregard: Remember, boys and girls:  It is sexist to call a moran a moran if she's a woman.

Probably for the same reason that it's racist to disagree with a black person, eh?


Something that has never been true, but has been a frequent complaint of racists and morons.
2013-11-26 08:52:48 PM  
1 vote:
So one guy I never heard of is a prick. Not exactly a democratic war on women though.
2013-11-26 08:12:19 PM  
1 vote:

serial_crusher: I do have to say, she apparently called the GOP "the party of old, white men", and propped up her femininity as a selling point.  It might be fair to say she opened the flood gates.


Good point. In criminal proceedings, character attacks can't be made till the defendant "opens the door" and introduces character as an issue. If she was the one who said first "Hey, look at me! I'm not an old fat white man! I'm a hot young Hispanic woman!" then the gloves are off as far as that goes.
2013-11-26 07:28:34 PM  
1 vote:
You do realize that New Hampshire has 400 state representatives, one per 3,300 residents, and are paid $100/year. The job attracts a lot of nuts, you can generally find one with an objectionable opinion on any topic, and being outlandish is about the only way to become noticed.
2013-11-26 07:19:53 PM  
1 vote:

Graffito: Men face other pressures in society, but being judged on their appearance is not one of them.


Except when they're Chris Christie.
2013-11-26 07:17:19 PM  
1 vote:

Marcus Aurelius: She's hot.  I'd vote for her.  As long as she's not stupid and/or derptastic.


A NH Republican? I'd go with derptastic.

/masshole
2013-11-26 06:40:02 PM  
1 vote:

technicolor-misfit: "Pretty boy" politicians like John Edwards and Scott Brown take shiat for their looks. It's not sexist that glamour girl female politicians face the same. It's sexist if women are treated like fragile little porcelain dolls who can't handle "the game" the way men can and expect to get to play from the "ladies' tee."


You are not seriously suggesting that men are judged on their appearance to anywhere near the degree that women are, are you?  Because that would be like comparing one derpy statement by a democrat to the mountains of derpitude that comes out of the mouths of republicans,

Men face other pressures in society, but being judged on their appearance is not one of them.
2013-11-26 06:39:41 PM  
1 vote:
So, who is this Peter Sullivan that he has come to represent all Democrats. I guess it is kind of sexist to bring up her choice of footwear. In political terms, it seems to be sort of mild sexism, but I do think it's fair to call it sexist. I just don't understand why this man is somehow the face of Democrats. Is he some rising star on the national front? He also appears to be plural - the article referred to "Dems" but only quoted this one man.
2013-11-26 06:39:09 PM  
1 vote:
Just remember she's a harpist, not a harpie.  While she may be a lightweight, not a sexist term, considering that Congress isn't exactly a font of deep thinking intellectuals, that should not disqualify her.
2013-11-26 05:53:38 PM  
1 vote:
i.imgur.com


It's mildly sexist. The guy should apologize. It's possible to avoid gender stereotypes while attacking her on issues.
2013-11-26 05:53:29 PM  
1 vote:
I like how the insult is to whom she is compared, but the drooling derpers latched on to the "stiletto heels" part.
2013-11-26 05:53:21 PM  
1 vote:

serial_crusher: timujin: Saying that she's of the same ilk as another politician, but that the difference is that she wears heels, is not misogynistic.  Calling her a mental lightweight or comparing her unfavorably to someone like Kim Kardashian is also not misogynistic.  Words have meanings, learn to use them.

What if you said that a particular candidate should be in the kitchen instead of in the white house or some such?  I mean, you could technically say that of either a man or a woman, so if you happened to say it about a woman it wouldn't be sexist, right?

/ sexist or not, it's certainly petty name calling.  Unless Kardashian has entered politics herself, I don't see why comparing a politician to her is relevant.


Do you really feel that comparing her to Kim Kardashian is not something one would normally say of a man?  Because I remember, back in '08, fairly frequent comparisons between Paris Hilton and a young lady named Barack Obama.

/however, I won't disagree that it is rather petty
2013-11-26 05:52:30 PM  
1 vote:

GlenninSac: The New Hampshire Journal-another e-derp-zine I'd never heard of; thanks a lot fark.


I think you're missing a bet by not calling it the New  Herpshire Journal.
2013-11-26 05:42:29 PM  
1 vote:

Krymson Tyde: Democrats should hold themselves to a higher standard rather than behaving like republicans.


I haven't seen any photoshops of her barefoot and pregnant standing a in kitchen yet. THAT would be Republican-like. And a Democratic politician would have to forward that from their governmental email to really seal it.
2013-11-26 05:20:04 PM  
1 vote:
Sullivan compared the three-term State Representative, who holds a Master's degree from Harvard's Kennedy School of Government, to reality television celebrity Kim Kardashian.

Um, that's not "sexist".

He went on to refer to her as "[Republican State Rep.] Al Baldasarro [sic] in stiletto heels" ...

Meh, that really isn't, either.

...and "a lightweight."

Yeh, ALSO "not sexist". Farking morons. Learn what the word means before you try and lob it back. Oh, and also quote more than a SINGLE Democrat if you're going to label the attack as being made by "Democrats".
2013-11-26 05:18:16 PM  
1 vote:

Lando Lincoln: nyseattitude: Marcus Aurelius: She's hot.  I'd vote for her.  As long as she's not stupid and/or derptastic.

She's a Tea Party ideologist

But wait! There's more!
Features not only include derptastic but now, for a limited time only, get all the derptastic AND herptastic qualities of Teabaggers!
It's like defecating and vomiting all over yourself at once!

FOR NO EXTRA CHARGE! (Just pay separate derptastic and herpdastic processing fees)

She want's to repeal Obamacare too..

I'm gonna hold off on my vote until I hear how well she spits out teabagger buzzwords.


She actually has some good ideas and notions as an individual. Problem is it all goes out the window when she's campaigning at the state and national level.

Her self descriptive "claim to fame" if you will;
new generation conservative committed to reducing the size, scope and cost of the federal government

Quite the original statement huh?

Considering Americans have never heard that before I expect her to be on the Presidential ticket in the near future. Oh wait....
2013-11-26 05:10:06 PM  
1 vote:
the comment section was like Bizzaro Fark.
2013-11-26 05:05:34 PM  
1 vote:
Throughout the 2012 and 2013 election cycles, national Democrats launched repeated attacks accusing Republicans of using rhetoric they claimed was demeaning to women.

It wasn't really the rhetoric that was the main problem, though that wasn't great, it was the attempted legislation that constituted the "War on Women".

Jaymark108: But then he reverses himself by saying that she's exactly like another GOP politician "in heels". So, is she a capable politician or isn't she? Taken together, both statements are sexist.


Well, the third option is that the other GOP politician is not a capable politician either. So by comparing the two, he's not contradicting himself, but merely strengthening his argument.

To be honest, I have no opinion on this either way as I don't know enough about any of the parties involved.
2013-11-26 05:02:58 PM  
1 vote:
sarah palin is joe the plumber in skinny jeans

gary johnson is ron paul in a tee shirt and sport coat

chris christie is bill o'reilly in a fat suit
2013-11-26 05:00:38 PM  
1 vote:

Marcus Aurelius: She's hot.  I'd vote for her.  As long as she's not stupid and/or derptastic.


Well she's a republican so odds are, she is at least one if not both.
2013-11-26 04:58:57 PM  
1 vote:

Car_Ramrod: The mistake conservatives and libertarians keep making is that we try to be polite to the criminals and crazies of the left, hoping that they will grow up. They never do, and they assume our courtesy is just weakness. We think we can negotiate compromise with evil, but aside from the moral failure of that approach, the liberals never accept comprise - they just keep demanding more (the John McCain fallacy).

We don't want to become as dishonest and criminal as they are, but that means that we damn well have to learn to be just as tough, or more so.


Because calling someone an crazy evil dishonest criminal is being very polite.
2013-11-26 04:56:47 PM  
1 vote:
conservative cargo cult debate tactics strike again
2013-11-26 04:56:46 PM  
1 vote:
And by "they," you of course mean "he," right subby?

His comments were lame name calling, but they were his comments, not their comments.
2013-11-26 04:46:42 PM  
1 vote:
Ehhh..I'm not super comfortable with comparing someone to another person "..in heels". That's sort of the same thing as  McConnell calling his female opponent an "empty dress".  I also don't see why he had to compare her to Kim Kardashian- does she have a reality TV show? Is she married to a jackass?

Why not "she's a right wing hack who will not be good for the state".  Take the higher ground.

However, apologizing to Kim Kardashian is hilarious.
 
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