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(The Week)   Blame yourself for the coming post-antibiotic bacteria hellscape. And the cows. And the free market   (theweek.com) divider line 42
    More: Scary, bacteria, pathogenic bacteria, antibiotics, penicillins, preventive action, evolutionary arms race, dermatitis, antibacterials  
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db2
2013-11-26 04:22:31 PM  
Peak penicillin! Run!
 
2013-11-26 04:23:44 PM  
Well, we can always resort to burning the sick.  And all their possessions.
 
2013-11-26 04:35:45 PM  
I should blame myself for the cows?
 
2013-11-26 04:36:15 PM  
Thank god my family has insanely powerful immune systems in the family tree.
 
2013-11-26 04:37:00 PM  
We freely circulated antibiotics and kept the recreational drugs under wraps.
 
2013-11-26 04:39:00 PM  
DNRTFA. The chickens are worse than the cows.
 
2013-11-26 04:43:03 PM  

dj_spanmaster: DNRTFA. The chickens are worse than the cows.


I hate picking the feathers out of my teeth.
 
2013-11-26 04:43:30 PM  
there is perhaps no greater example of why we can not rely on the private sector for fundamental basic science R&D.
 
2013-11-26 04:50:53 PM  
Ha!  You Athiest liberals with your evolutionary nonsense.   If millions of people die because of an unstoppable wave of pestilence rolling across the land then it is proof that God is angry with us for (insert reasons here.)  As long we we hew closely to His word which is translated flawlessly in the (enter version of Bible or holy text here here) then we will be blessed with prosperity.
 
2013-11-26 04:55:13 PM  
clinic I used to work at everyone wanted antibiotics, for a while i had the short straw of patient "advocate" had to listen to them and see if there was a resolution, that resolution was usually a zpack which most providers write like candy for everything.

Usually all I wanted was for them to spend a minute explaining to the people the difference between a virus and bacterial infection, 99.9% of the time they just wrote a script
 
2013-11-26 05:06:59 PM  
I remember reading somewhere that antibiotic resistance was very energy intensive for the bacteria, so in the absence of constant exposure to antibiotics (which is what happens in industrial feed lot operations), the non resistance types out compete the resistant types.

I really wish I'd bookmarked the article.
 
2013-11-26 05:20:24 PM  
Told ya so...

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-11-26 05:20:45 PM  

Leader O'Cola: there is perhaps no greater example of why we can not rely on the private sector for fundamental basic science R&D.


DTRFA so this might be covered in it, but lots of the big med companies have gotten out of anti-biotics specifically because they've decided there's more money in creating treatments for incurable, chronic conditions (blood-pressure, impotence, acne, ect) and less in creating actual cures for things.

"The Week" though? With that political cartoon comparing Kerry to Chamberlin and, by extension, the Iranians to the Nazis? Seems like a pretty hackish outfit to me :/
 
2013-11-26 05:24:42 PM  
Tragedy of the commons.
 
2013-11-26 05:26:02 PM  

Felgraf: Thank god my family has insanely powerful immune systems in the family tree.


You have carrion-eaters in your family tree?
 
2013-11-26 05:27:35 PM  
this reminds me of the great leech crisis of '07

/1507
 
2013-11-26 05:33:19 PM  

wildcardjack: We freely circulated antibiotics and kept the recreational drugs under wraps.


Mine are so powerful they wrapped back around into autoimmune diseases like psoriasis.
 
2013-11-26 05:35:06 PM  

Mad_Radhu: wildcardjack: We freely circulated antibiotics and kept the recreational drugs under wraps.

Mine are so powerful they wrapped back around into autoimmune diseases like psoriasis.


Oops, replied to the wrong comment.
 
2013-11-26 05:38:08 PM  

Felgraf: Thank god my family has insanely powerful immune systems in the family tree.


This is the one I meant to respond to.

My immune system is pretty beefy, one time it beat back TB without me even knowing I was infected. I still had to have a long course of antibiotics mop up the spores, though.
 
2013-11-26 05:38:39 PM  
That's what happens when we allow big agro to pump their animals with constant antibiotics.
 
2013-11-26 05:50:16 PM  

Mike Chewbacca: That's what happens when we allow big agro to pump their animals with constant antibiotics.


but cheap meat is so delicious!
 
2013-11-26 06:37:29 PM  
Hopefully the legislation to restrict meat industry antibiotic use will pass.  And hopefully the price of meat will double because of it.  Two benefits from one law.
 
2013-11-26 06:57:50 PM  
China's over-use of antibiotics is even more frightening:

http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2103733,00.html
 
2013-11-26 07:02:03 PM  

Felgraf: Thank god my family has insanely powerful immune systems in the family tree.


I haven't been sick at all in about 20 years. Coincidentally the last time i was sick was right after the last vaccine i got.

Although it doesn't seem to be the same for my family who get sick frequently, and i'm sure them always getting flu shots is just another coincidence.
 
2013-11-26 07:02:12 PM  
As with most things nanotech will save us.
 
2013-11-26 07:15:38 PM  
I blame Canada.
 
2013-11-26 07:38:44 PM  
Well, colloidal silver is supposed to be antibiotic.

I suppose that having skintone that makes you look like you are cosplaying Commander Data is better than being dead.
i.imgur.com
 
2013-11-26 07:39:28 PM  

Mad_Radhu: My immune system is pretty beefy, one time it beat back TB without me even knowing I was infected. I still had to have a long course of antibiotics mop up the spores, though.


That's nothin'! I shook off ebola with some chicken soup and a nice nap!
 
2013-11-26 07:55:51 PM  
Any knowledgeable Farkers know the drawbacks to bacteriophages?
 
2013-11-26 07:59:07 PM  

Mentalpatient87: Mad_Radhu: My immune system is pretty beefy, one time it beat back TB without me even knowing I was infected. I still had to have a long course of antibiotics mop up the spores, though.

That's nothin'! I shook off ebola with some chicken soup and a nice nap!


Ebola is a virus. Antibiotics wouldn't help you, anyway.
 
2013-11-26 08:10:43 PM  

Fabric_Man: Any knowledgeable Farkers know the drawbacks to bacteriophages?


It will end in gorillas.
 
2013-11-26 08:49:27 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Felgraf: Thank god my family has insanely powerful immune systems in the family tree.

This is the one I meant to respond to.

My immune system is pretty beefy, one time it beat back TB without me even knowing I was infected. I still had to have a long course of antibiotics mop up the spores, though.


Yeah we get happy-fun immune system stuff in this family, too. Mom developed Celiac's at 50, and also had to have her thyroid nuked.
 
2013-11-26 08:53:42 PM  

Mike Chewbacca: Mentalpatient87: Mad_Radhu: My immune system is pretty beefy, one time it beat back TB without me even knowing I was infected. I still had to have a long course of antibiotics mop up the spores, though.

That's nothin'! I shook off ebola with some chicken soup and a nice nap!

Ebola is a virus. Antibiotics wouldn't help you, anyway.


Then why the hell did Dr. Trunkdrugs sell me all those antibiotics?!

/aw, who cares
//they were gummy
 
2013-11-26 09:19:08 PM  
My mother-in-law had CDIFF and MRSA at the same time.  She was the first patient at that hospital to survive having both, but not without losing most of her innards.

Though I have a feeling that when family members of the C level and boards of the big pharmaceutical companies start coming down with antibiotic resistant infections that they just might start  thinking newer antibiotics are a worthy investment.
 
2013-11-26 09:20:04 PM  
www.troll.me
 
2013-11-26 09:33:13 PM  
Suppose bacteria are actually the controlling organisms of their hosts. They've been around hella lot longer than most anything else. Now suppose we managed to kill them all off with antibiotics...

What would that leave you with?

Zombies, that's what.
 
2013-11-26 09:42:06 PM  

ikanreed: Well, we can always resort to burning the sick.  And all their possessions.


Cleanse everything with the fire.  The fire, it purifies!
 
2013-11-26 10:37:43 PM  

Mike Chewbacca: That's what happens when we allow big agro to pump their animals with constant antibiotics.


Definitely too much use, but as usual, it's never that simple.  In 1994 the FDA outlawed the use of Bayer's Baytril in poultry (Bayer argued that broilers only lived for weeks before before being harvested and the addition of Baytril controlled the Campylobacter - GI bug - allowing for uniform growth of chickens and fewer intestinal contents loosed on the carcasses, by  the automated gutters, owing to undersized birds on the blades).  Owing to the short life (fewer generations of bacteria/resistant or not) of the chickens and decrease in potential contamination of carcasses Bayer asserted the use should continue.

It was also stipulated to that those who handle raw poultry at home have a far lower incidence of Campylobacter infection requiring treatment, than those who eat chicken in restaurants (under cooked bird/already infected human staff).

Another interesting finding, as regards ag use, in the EU, was the Czech commercial poultry producer accused of feeding the already proscribed Nitrofurasone to their chickens (tested for the breakdown product SEM in their waste stream).  However, it was the poultry facility being contaminated by the incoming water supply.  The source?  Human medicinal use of Nitrofurasone (flushed) and a small amount of additional SEM from the manufacture of plastic gaskets.

/scratch on elbow - disinfected and dressed - while in a hospital (very dangerous location) - one week later? On a ventilator - for 10 days - being pumped full of gent/vanc/(and you name it - very enthusiastic strain of staph) - doc called it septic arthritis for insurance purposes (internist/rheumatologist)
//DEA should have authority over antibiotics, and nothing else
 
2013-11-27 01:51:37 AM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: Well, colloidal silver is supposed to be antibiotic.

I suppose that having skintone that makes you look like you are cosplaying Commander Data is better than being dead.
[i.imgur.com image 474x337]


WTF!
 
2013-11-27 03:25:35 AM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: I suppose that having skintone that makes you look like you are cosplaying Commander Data is better than being dead.


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-11-27 05:39:32 AM  

Robin Hoodie: this reminds me of the great leech crisis of '07

/1507


Ah yes, the great leech crisis... it sucked.
 
2013-11-27 10:25:48 AM  

NateAsbestos: Vlad_the_Inaner: Well, colloidal silver is supposed to be antibiotic.

I suppose that having skintone that makes you look like you are cosplaying Commander Data is better than being dead.
[i.imgur.com image 474x337]

WTF!


Argyria
 
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