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(BBC)   US flies nuclear bombers over China. It's been nice knowing you. Most of you. Some of you   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 130
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2013-11-26 05:52:16 PM  

What's wrong with exercising our stuff?


Can't let 'em sit around all the time .. they'll rust or something.



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2013-11-26 05:52:27 PM  
TV's Vinnie

Of all the things to send over? B-52s? The planes that SAMs could easily shoot down since the 1960's? Yeah. The brass in Beijing are p*ssing themselves now, I bet.

How come Fatty Dingdongs in Best Korea can get a B2 show but all the Chinese get are Grampa's bombers?


We're daring them to do something.  The equivilent of standing in front of some guy on the sidewalk with your hands down at your side, right up in his face.

"Hit me, asshole, and see what happens".
 
2013-11-26 06:01:46 PM  

ladyfortuna: vpb: I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed. But I do say no more than ten to twenty million killed, tops. Uh, depending on the breaks.

Suddenly glad I haven't moved out of the semi-safe zone yet (yes, I actually checked the government projection maps).


Depending on how it all goes down, you might not want to survive it. There are fates worse than death.
 
2013-11-26 06:03:39 PM  

studebaker hoch: TV's Vinnie

Of all the things to send over? B-52s? The planes that SAMs could easily shoot down since the 1960's? Yeah. The brass in Beijing are p*ssing themselves now, I bet.

How come Fatty Dingdongs in Best Korea can get a B2 show but all the Chinese get are Grampa's bombers?

We're daring them to do something.  The equivilent of standing in front of some guy on the sidewalk with your hands down at your side, right up in his face.

"Hit me, asshole, and see what happens".


Yup. Anything happens to one of those B-52s, it's showtime.
 
2013-11-26 06:08:26 PM  

mbillips: Cowthulu: Unarmed for a bomber like that means that the codes have not been uploaded and doesn't mean that the plane did not have any nuclear weapons onboard. It just means if the pilots wanted to they could not use the weapons.

B-52s don't routinely carry nukes. Just the SAC ones do, and there are few of those left. Strategic bombing is something of a fantasy; you can't escort Buffs all the way to their targets, and any modern air defense system would make short work of them. Buffs are still a very effective weapon against defenseless ground forces, but that doesn't describe China or Russia.


Oh yeah? Well, If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low... oh you oughta see it sometime. It's a sight. A big plane like a '52... varrrooom! Its jet exhaust... frying chickens in the barnyard!
 
2013-11-26 06:11:37 PM  

This text is now purple: Brontes: Are there only 600 million screaming china-men left?

Unlike Russia, the US doesn't have a land border with China over which those screaming Chinamen can run.

Because China doesn't have enough ships to ferry them all over.


they'll just purchase a metric butt-load of houses in Vegas and Phoenix, and slip in a few at a time.
 
2013-11-26 06:43:19 PM  

Jeep2011: SNAFU


This goes beyond SNAFU and right into TARFU territory
 
2013-11-26 06:54:30 PM  

This text is now purple: China likely considers Okinawa to be Chinese.


As far as I know, they don't.

(But yeah Okinawa is part of Japan only fairly recently as the history of Japan goes... it's sort of "Japan's Hawaii" in a lot of ways.)
 
2013-11-26 06:55:07 PM  

tuxq: Read up on the defensive uses of HAARP. There's a reason we stopped giving a damn about an orbit-based anti-missile platform ("Star Wars")

Personally, I won't be losing any sleep over a threat from China or any other b*tch a*s country that thinks they can challenge the United States of America.


/'Murica!
//I acknowledge my own arrogance, thank you very much.


Im feeling slowed by a new bourbon "Stetson", could you perhaps explain to me the defensive uses of HAARP?
 
2013-11-26 06:56:51 PM  

studebaker hoch: [img.fark.net image 464x261]

If only there was some way we could divide the territory up between the two countries.


no need to, they belong to japan. China is just being a petulant brat
 
2013-11-26 07:01:13 PM  

TV's Vinnie: Of all the things to send over? B-52s? The planes that SAMs could easily shoot down since the 1960's? Yeah. The brass in Beijing are p*ssing themselves now, I bet.

How come Fatty Dingdongs in Best Korea can get a B2 show but all the Chinese get are Grampa's bombers?


Because the bombers were scheduled to take part in a routine exercise weeks before China very dubiously claimed sovereignty over that air space. We didn't fly them there for China's benefit (although we would if they wanted to make something of it). Sovereign coastal waters, after all, were originally whatever water you could cover with your cannons (later standardized at 3 miles, and still later extended to 12). China's now claiming it controls air space 200 MILES from its coastline. Part of exercising freedom of the seas is backing down bullies who want to write their own rules. We don't give notification when we fly through international air space, or travel through international waters.
 
2013-11-26 07:04:44 PM  

Mr. Pokeylope: Evil Twin Skippy: Eddie Adams from Torrance: It's not like China can attack us.. we're their best customer.

It would like WalMart launching SCUDs against the local trailer park.

It's not like China could attack us... period. They have no strategic bombers that could reach us, their Navy would have to get past our Navy, our air force, and hell, some of our Army units. And that is prior to landing. (I imagine an A-10 or a Apache could really get the better of a troop transport that strayed close enough to land.)

Now, if they would like to duke this out with Nuclear weapons, they could hit us. Our retaliation would be terrible. Heck, we might not even retaliate with nukes. We'd bomb them into oblivion with conventional weapons just so we can drag their leaders through the streets and hang them.

I always though that the problem was actually Russia? Like, they would  step in if we got aggressive with China?


Once upon a time that was an issue.  However after mao the pun split with Russia over which country should rule the communist world/revolutionary junk it was more like Russia would split China with us.
/or something which is why Mac should nuked the chinese and we could have north and south china and no north korea
//according to a tinfoil hat history prof i had
 
2013-11-26 07:30:15 PM  
zero to cave in 3...2...
 
Al!
2013-11-26 07:56:35 PM  

mbillips: Cowthulu: Unarmed for a bomber like that means that the codes have not been uploaded and doesn't mean that the plane did not have any nuclear weapons onboard. It just means if the pilots wanted to they could not use the weapons.

B-52s don't routinely carry nukes. Just the SAC ones do, and there are few of those left.


If by "few" you mean "none," then you are correct.  Strategic Air Command ceased being way back in 1992.  Those aircraft are now under numerous commands: ACC, AMC, PAF, USAFE, AFGSC.  The nukes would primarily be taken care of by AFGSC aircraft, but I'd imagine there aren't any stipulations that ACC, USAFE and PAF aircraft aren't allowed to carry nukes.
 
2013-11-26 08:04:14 PM  

KarmicDisaster: Oh yeah? Well, If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low... oh you oughta see it sometime. It's a sight. A big plane like a '52... varrrooom! Its jet exhaust... frying chickens in the barnyard!


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2013-11-26 08:18:35 PM  

zedster: nuclear bombers? really? We tried nuclear planes, they didn't work


sobchak.files.wordpress.com

/hot like an airborne reactor
 
2013-11-26 08:25:30 PM  
China should repossess all those planes when the US gov't defaults in March.
 
2013-11-26 08:25:39 PM  

WordsnCollision: zedster: nuclear bombers? really? We tried nuclear planes, they didn't work

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/hot like an airborne reactor


Well, technically, that wasn't nuclear powered.  They just flew a pretty much unshielded nuclear reactor around to see what would happen and stuff.
 
2013-11-26 09:03:24 PM  
Where the fark u at stealth drone?
 
2013-11-26 09:14:30 PM  
GratuityIncluded

Where the fark u at stealth drone?

Right next to the bombers.  ;)
 
2013-11-26 11:50:24 PM  
 
2013-11-26 11:57:25 PM  
Yea, when the Chinese fighters intercept the plane and force it to land so they can steal our technology get back to me. You know, like Bush did.

Otherwise, fark you subby.

If you don't know we keep B-52s loaded with nukes aloft at any time to prove to the jackasses we can obliterate their whole existence when they get stupid then you have no business commenting on this topic.

Dumbass.
 
2013-11-27 12:03:30 AM  
Farking morons. Jesus is not coming back no matter how hard you try to create some retarded ass doomsday scenario.

Go back to farking you little sister and let us adults run the world.
 
2013-11-27 02:03:16 AM  

Langdon_777: They upped the stakes with a navel fleet (on exercises) http://www.news.com.au/world/united-states-responds-to-chinese-air-id e ntification-zone-over-japanese-claimed-islands-by-sending-b-52-bombers /story-fndir2ev-1226769154950


JSDF will respond in kind, or at least shadow them, I'm sure.

China is well aware that Japan is under our nuclear umbrella, so it won't become an all-out shooting war, but probably some small skirmishes here and there.

Since it's really all about the gas/fishing/minerals/etc..., it most likely won't spiral out of control. Lot's of saber-rattling, but very limited hostilities. After all, it's hard to extract gas/minerals or fish, when you're constantly under attack.

/Their aircraft carrier is cute. I like the little ramp.
 
2013-11-27 02:15:47 AM  

Hz so good: ladyfortuna: vpb: I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed. But I do say no more than ten to twenty million killed, tops. Uh, depending on the breaks.

Suddenly glad I haven't moved out of the semi-safe zone yet (yes, I actually checked the government projection maps).

Depending on how it all goes down, you might not want to survive it. There are fates worse than death.


Eh, I'll take my chances. Easy enough to end things later.
 
2013-11-27 03:04:13 AM  

itazurakko: This text is now purple: China likely considers Okinawa to be Chinese.

As far as I know, they don't.

(But yeah Okinawa is part of Japan only fairly recently as the history of Japan goes... it's sort of "Japan's Hawaii" in a lot of ways.)


It's more confusing than that. Basically a bunch of pro-government researchers are trying to cast doubts on Japanese ownership of Okinawa, playing against native Ryukyuan displeasure with Tokyo, while advancing the dubsious and insane claim that because once, at some time hundreds of years ago, the Okinawans sent some gifts to China, the PRC owns Okinawa. But now there's an important general going on damage control and saying it isn't the case.

And that's not all! Just look at the next 60 years!
 
2013-11-27 05:55:26 AM  

Kuroutesshin: itazurakko: This text is now purple: China likely considers Okinawa to be Chinese.

As far as I know, they don't.

(But yeah Okinawa is part of Japan only fairly recently as the history of Japan goes... it's sort of "Japan's Hawaii" in a lot of ways.)

It's more confusing than that. Basically a bunch of pro-government researchers are trying to cast doubts on Japanese ownership of Okinawa, playing against native Ryukyuan displeasure with Tokyo, while advancing the dubsious and insane claim that because once, at some time hundreds of years ago, the Okinawans sent some gifts to China, the PRC owns Okinawa. But now there's an important general going on damage control and saying it isn't the case.

And that's not all! Just look at the next 60 years!


China has also made noises about how much of North Korea is actually part of China, too. Absurd, of course.
 
2013-11-27 10:21:48 AM  

Langdon_777: They upped the stakes with a navel fleet (on exercises) http://www.news.com.au/world/united-states-responds-to-chinese-air-id e ntification-zone-over-japanese-claimed-islands-by-sending-b-52-bombers /story-fndir2ev-1226769154950


I see they deployed their Soviet museum piece.
 
2013-11-27 10:46:15 AM  
resources1.news.com.au

An American B-52 takes part in Operation Tin Roof Rusted over the East China Sea.
 
Al!
2013-11-27 05:26:17 PM  

Degenz: Yea, when the Chinese fighters intercept the plane and force it to land so they can steal our technology get back to me. You know, like Bush did.

Otherwise, fark you subby.

If you don't know we keep B-52s loaded with nukes aloft at any time to prove to the jackasses we can obliterate their whole existence when they get stupid then you have no business commenting on this topic.

Dumbass.


Where do you people get this information?  Did you recieve a telegraph, or maybe a parcel via the Pony Express?  The USAF hasn't run an alert mission since the early 1990's.  They were a deterrent against the USSR, an entity that also ceased to exist at around the same time.  There just isn't the same scale of threat from any other nation, and the missions were hugely expensive  and very, very dangerous
 
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