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2013-11-26 01:23:43 PM
I'm typing this from outside of a Best Buy in Ashtabula, Ohio, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies. I've been camped out here for four days now, singing songs and breaking bread with my fellow Black Friday Rangers. There's a sense of comraderie and fellowship on this sidewalk that I don't expect you cynics to understand.

I'm 6th in line, so I'm pretty much gauranteed a 35" Vizio 750p flat screen for $159. That's a great price for a great product and if you don;t think it's worth it, you need to get over yourselves.
 
2013-11-26 01:25:07 PM
The next thing you'll tell me is that the local furniture store's 54th annual going-out-of-business sale with guaranteed 50-percent-off list prices isn't legit.
 
2013-11-26 02:33:56 PM

sigdiamond2000: I'm typing this from outside of a Best Buy in Ashtabula, Ohio, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies. I've been camped out here for four days now, singing songs and breaking bread with my fellow Black Friday Rangers. There's a sense of comraderie and fellowship on this sidewalk that I don't expect you cynics to understand.

I'm 6th in line, so I'm pretty much gauranteed a 35" Vizio 750p flat screen for $159. That's a great price for a great product and if you don;t think it's worth it, you need to get over yourselves.


LOL.  I'd love to have had regular updates showing the deterioration of the situation.

"Day 5:  Food is becoming scarce and moral is at an all time low.  Some are claiming there's talk of cannibalism, but I hope these are just rumors and speculation brought on by hunger, fatigue, cold and lack of sleep.  One fellow shopper has restorted to drinking his own urine.  The customers at the adjoining Barnes & Noble eye us with derision and contempt."
 
2013-11-26 02:37:23 PM
But to the point of TFA....

Yeah.  About three weeks ago I went to an outlet center.  "50% of all merchandise!" at one store.  Sounds great, until you see the original sticker price for a fleece jacket was $90.  Are people really that dumb?  Here in Orlando, I swear they've given up on the locals and are just trying to sucker tourists - especially tourists from other countries.
 
2013-11-26 02:41:14 PM
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2013-11-26 02:42:41 PM

Diogenes: But to the point of TFA....

Yeah.  About three weeks ago I went to an outlet center.  "50% of all merchandise!" at one store.  Sounds great, until you see the original sticker price for a fleece jacket was $90.  Are people really that dumb?  Here in Orlando, I swear they've given up on the locals and are just trying to sucker tourists - especially tourists from other countries.


The further you get from OIA (er... MCO) the better.
 
2013-11-26 02:43:01 PM
I don't think I've ever purchased anything from Kohl's without the 30% off coupon AND Kohl's cash. I know full well it's a marketing gimmick but I'll be damned if I don't leave that place without some sort of self-accomplishment.
 
2013-11-26 02:43:41 PM

Genju: Diogenes: But to the point of TFA....

Yeah.  About three weeks ago I went to an outlet center.  "50% of all merchandise!" at one store.  Sounds great, until you see the original sticker price for a fleece jacket was $90.  Are people really that dumb?  Here in Orlando, I swear they've given up on the locals and are just trying to sucker tourists - especially tourists from other countries.

The further you get from OIA (er... MCO) the better.


This is the one kinda sorta where Dolly Parton's Dixie Stampede used to be.  Total tourist area.
 
2013-11-26 02:43:47 PM
This is why you buy online, pick up in store, possibly get whatever door prizes they might hand you.  Usually the site has a non-black friday deal that's the same price.
 
2013-11-26 02:45:41 PM

Ponzholio: I don't think I've ever purchased anything from Kohl's without the 30% off coupon AND Kohl's cash. I know full well it's a marketing gimmick but I'll be damned if I don't leave that place without some sort of self-accomplishment.


Well of course.  You need to use the 30% to get the real price.  It would be dumb not to use it.  Just don't be fooled into thinking you're getting a real deal.

Comparison shopping is where it's at.  That, and potentially leveraging one place's deals against another's.  "We'll beat any competitor's prices..." yadda yadda.
 
2013-11-26 02:46:09 PM

Ponzholio: I don't think I've ever purchased anything from Kohl's without the 30% off coupon AND Kohl's cash. I know full well it's a marketing gimmick but I'll be damned if I don't leave that place without some sort of self-accomplishment.


Bed Bath and Beyond doesn't do cash AFAIK, but their 20% off coupon is a necessity as well.  It's the cheapest place I've found to buy razor blades, believe it or not, if I have one of those coupons.

/Please tell me if you know of a place to get inexpensive Mach 3 blades
 
2013-11-26 02:47:17 PM
Got a sweet deal on a 24" at HHGregg. $109 or something like that. It's for the Airstream and a 32" would be too large for where it needs to go. Plus, I am not blind.
 
2013-11-26 02:47:34 PM
I'm shopping in Feb, when they have tons of crap they can't unload.
 
2013-11-26 02:48:05 PM
In other news, there is a Best Buy in Ashtabula, Ohio.
 
2013-11-26 02:51:53 PM
I'm not going to dig, but isn't there a whole psychology behind sale prices? Buying "regular price" vs a slightly marked up discounted price?
 
2013-11-26 02:53:33 PM

born_yesterday: Ponzholio: I don't think I've ever purchased anything from Kohl's without the 30% off coupon AND Kohl's cash. I know full well it's a marketing gimmick but I'll be damned if I don't leave that place without some sort of self-accomplishment.

Bed Bath and Beyond doesn't do cash AFAIK, but their 20% off coupon is a necessity as well.  It's the cheapest place I've found to buy razor blades, believe it or not, if I have one of those coupons.

/Please tell me if you know of a place to get inexpensive Mach 3 blades


Try FastTech
 
2013-11-26 02:53:38 PM
So how much do you folks make an hour that you are willing to wait around for 2 or 3 days to save 200 bucks on a tv or whatever?
 
2013-11-26 02:55:45 PM

Diogenes: Genju: Diogenes: But to the point of TFA....

Yeah.  About three weeks ago I went to an outlet center.  "50% of all merchandise!" at one store.  Sounds great, until you see the original sticker price for a fleece jacket was $90.  Are people really that dumb?  Here in Orlando, I swear they've given up on the locals and are just trying to sucker tourists - especially tourists from other countries.

The further you get from OIA (er... MCO) the better.

This is the one kinda sorta where Dolly Parton's Dixie Stampede used to be.  Total tourist area.


I'm trying to remember, but isn't there one about 15 minutes from MCO where all the upper class live? There's a Banana Republic, American Eagle, Armani, etc. It's one giant outdoor mall that is almost impossible to ever find a parking spot.

/always shops after Christmas
 
2013-11-26 02:56:35 PM
Hey, subby, how do you grammar? You're missing a "from."
 
2013-11-26 02:59:13 PM

sigdiamond2000: I'm typing this from outside of a Best Buy in Ashtabula, Ohio, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies. I've been camped out here for four days now, singing songs and breaking bread with my fellow Black Friday Rangers. There's a sense of comraderie and fellowship on this sidewalk that I don't expect you cynics to understand.

I'm 6th in line, so I'm pretty much gauranteed a 35" Vizio 750p flat screen for $159. That's a great price for a great product and if you don;t think it's worth it, you need to get over yourselves.


What is your time worth, per hour? X

How many hours will you spend in line? Y

How much money are you saving waiting in line? Z

If X times Y is less than Z, then you are doing the smart thing.
If X times Y is greater than Z, then you are wasting time trying to save money. It's your life, it's your time. Your time is the only thing you own.
 
2013-11-26 02:59:49 PM

zulius: I'm not going to dig, but isn't there a whole psychology behind sale prices? Buying "regular price" vs a slightly marked up discounted price?


Yes.  Abandoning the "markup and have a sale price" model is one of the reasons JC Penny went into the shiatter this year.  People want to feel like they're getting a deal, even when they're not.
 
2013-11-26 02:59:57 PM
Diogenes

sigdiamond2000: I'm typing this from outside of a Best Buy in Ashtabula, Ohio, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies. I've been camped out here for four days now, singing songs and breaking bread with my fellow Black Friday Rangers. There's a sense of comraderie and fellowship on this sidewalk that I don't expect you cynics to understand.

I'm 6th in line, so I'm pretty much gauranteed a 35" Vizio 750p flat screen for $159. That's a great price for a great product and if you don;t think it's worth it, you need to get over yourselves.

LOL. I'd love to have had regular updates showing the deterioration of the situation.

"Day 5: Food is becoming scarce and moral is at an all time low. Some are claiming there's talk of cannibalism, but I hope these are just rumors and speculation brought on by hunger, fatigue, cold and lack of sleep. One fellow shopper has restorted to drinking his own urine. The customers at the adjoining Barnes & Noble eye us with derision and contempt."


Day 12 sigdiamond200 dies of dysentery.
 
2013-11-26 03:00:24 PM
I don't think this articles tells the whole story.  When I worked retail, I was able to look up the store's cost of items, and for the front page Black Friday deals, most were being sold below cost, particularly electronics where the margins are razor thin to begin with.  The idea being that they are willing to take a real loss on a few items in order to increase traffic into the store to buy other items with more traditional retail markup.
 
2013-11-26 03:01:31 PM

sigdiamond2000: I'm typing this from outside of a Best Buy in Ashtabula, Ohio, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies. I've been camped out here for four days now, singing songs and breaking bread with my fellow Black Friday Rangers. There's a sense of comraderie and fellowship on this sidewalk that I don't expect you cynics to understand.

I'm 6th in line, so I'm pretty much gauranteed a 35" Vizio 750p flat screen for $159. That's a great price for a great product and if you don;t think it's worth it, you need to get over yourselves.


750p huh?

/the latest amazing formatz!!1
//I'll be working friday
///not at a store
 
hej
2013-11-26 03:02:25 PM

sigdiamond2000: I'm typing this from outside of a Best Buy in Ashtabula, Ohio, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies. I've been camped out here for four days now, singing songs and breaking bread with my fellow Black Friday Rangers. There's a sense of comraderie and fellowship on this sidewalk that I don't expect you cynics to understand.

I'm 6th in line, so I'm pretty much gauranteed a 35" Vizio 750p flat screen for $159. That's a great price for a great product and if you don;t think it's worth it, you need to get over yourselves.


9/10, mostly because you've pulled it off well enough to make me lawl, and you got bites without having to resort to directly inflammatory comments.
 
2013-11-26 03:02:45 PM
The worst example of this was last year when Zellers (in the US, KMart would be a close approximation) went out of business up here in Canuckistan.  The "Final Liquidation - Everything MUST go!  Up to 90% off" signs went up a week before the cut off day.

My office was right next to a location so it was fairly easy to check out.  I used to like their "Hunt Club" Khakis, I had bought some reasonably recently and knew their prices went from 34.99 regular to around 20 bucks on sale.

The liquidation price?  69.99!!!!  The regular price was marked at 187 dollars.   I can tell you Zellers has NEVER farkin sold a pair of pants for almost 200 bucks.

It was insane, even the video games...nothing less than 20 bucks with "regular" prices in excess of 80 to 90 dollars.

How they go away with this shiat I will never know.
 
2013-11-26 03:02:55 PM

Genju: Diogenes: Genju: Diogenes: But to the point of TFA....

Yeah.  About three weeks ago I went to an outlet center.  "50% of all merchandise!" at one store.  Sounds great, until you see the original sticker price for a fleece jacket was $90.  Are people really that dumb?  Here in Orlando, I swear they've given up on the locals and are just trying to sucker tourists - especially tourists from other countries.

The further you get from OIA (er... MCO) the better.

This is the one kinda sorta where Dolly Parton's Dixie Stampede used to be.  Total tourist area.

I'm trying to remember, but isn't there one about 15 minutes from MCO where all the upper class live? There's a Banana Republic, American Eagle, Armani, etc. It's one giant outdoor mall that is almost impossible to ever find a parking spot.

/always shops after Christmas


Well, that selection of stores doesn't really narrow it down.  But I'm inclined to think you're talking about the ones on the far end of I-Drive.  Near Festival Bay.

But it could also be the ones I'm referring to.  They're not far from me, and I'm right down the B-line from the airport.

Hard to say...parking is impossible regardless of the time year at both locations.  There's more residential area at the one nearer to me.
 
2013-11-26 03:04:02 PM

jclaggett: born_yesterday: Ponzholio: I don't think I've ever purchased anything from Kohl's without the 30% off coupon AND Kohl's cash. I know full well it's a marketing gimmick but I'll be damned if I don't leave that place without some sort of self-accomplishment.

Bed Bath and Beyond doesn't do cash AFAIK, but their 20% off coupon is a necessity as well.  It's the cheapest place I've found to buy razor blades, believe it or not, if I have one of those coupons.

/Please tell me if you know of a place to get inexpensive Mach 3 blades

Try FastTech


And ditch the Mach 3 for a fusion. It is sooooo much better.
 
2013-11-26 03:04:09 PM
obama.net

Can't wait
 
2013-11-26 03:04:56 PM

tcaptain: The worst example of this was last year when Zellers (in the US, KMart would be a close approximation) went out of business up here in Canuckistan. The "Final Liquidation - Everything MUST go! Up to 90% off" signs went up a week before the cut off day.


There is a furniture store here in Frederick -Routzahn's- that has been going out of business for the last seven years.
 
2013-11-26 03:07:52 PM

bopis: So how much do you folks make an hour that you are willing to wait around for 2 or 3 days to save 200 bucks on a tv or whatever?


The salary is determined by how many people are in your household.
 
2013-11-26 03:08:05 PM
born_yesterday


zulius: I'm not going to dig, but isn't there a whole psychology behind sale prices? Buying "regular price" vs a slightly marked up discounted price?

Yes. Abandoning the "markup and have a sale price" model is one of the reasons JC Penny went into the shiatter this year. People want to feel like they're getting a deal, even when they're not.


This is actually a very good point, look at Kohl's, this is the basis of their business model. I bought my kids winter coats in October from Kohl's. Regular price $135, on sale 50% off, I would have never bought them at $135 and I am sure selling them would be much tougher. Did I get a "great deal"... doubtful, but it makes be feel better than spending $135 a pop.
 
2013-11-26 03:11:15 PM

TomServo24: I don't think this articles tells the whole story.  When I worked retail, I was able to look up the store's cost of items, and for the front page Black Friday deals, most were being sold below cost, particularly electronics where the margins are razor thin to begin with.  The idea being that they are willing to take a real loss on a few items in order to increase traffic into the store to buy other items with more traditional retail markup.


That was my experience too.  My last retail job was part-time at a Circuit City over the holidays, and I the Black Friday prep was mostly, "build lanes surrounded by low-cost, high-markup items that lead towards the sale items we're losing money on".
 
2013-11-26 03:14:43 PM

The_Time_Master: sigdiamond2000: I'm typing this from outside of a Best Buy in Ashtabula, Ohio, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies. I've been camped out here for four days now, singing songs and breaking bread with my fellow Black Friday Rangers. There's a sense of comraderie and fellowship on this sidewalk that I don't expect you cynics to understand.

I'm 6th in line, so I'm pretty much gauranteed a 35" Vizio 750p flat screen for $159. That's a great price for a great product and if you don;t think it's worth it, you need to get over yourselves.

What is your time worth, per hour? X

How many hours will you spend in line? Y

How much money are you saving waiting in line? Z

If X times Y is less than Z, then you are doing the smart thing.
If X times Y is greater than Z, then you are wasting time trying to save money. It's your life, it's your time. Your time is the only thing you own.


I have a friend who is a Black Friday shopper. He's also one of those guys who will drive across town to save 0.10/gallon on gas, and don't you try to talk him out of it.
 
2013-11-26 03:17:28 PM
Wow, it doesn't get anymore obvious than this. Is this still news to ANYONE?

Here is a hint, retailers are not in the business of selling things, they are in the business of making money. If it does not make them money, they won't do it. Just keep that in mind.

Hence TFA is "news" (meaning new info to some), here I'll list few more things retailers do that might be news to you too

- The milk and egg's will be as far away from the door as possible. They want you to "see" as many things as possible before you get to the things that you must buy on a regular basis.

- The 2nd shelf from the bottom is where you will find most of the "kid's stuff". For the simple reason that it is at the eye level for kids, and if they see it, they will start nagging to get it.

- Stuff at the checkout aisle cost way more than stuff just a few feet away.

- the stuff nearest to you will have the earliest expiration date (not necessarily a bad thing).

- That expiration date is a wild guess, things may get worse way before it or be perfectly OK to consume way after it. Use your judgement before throwing anything out, or don't keep eating things even if it tastes funny just because it is still within expiration date.

- Retailers (as well as manufacturers) changes the expiration date on things and put them right back on.

- Expired vanilla ice creams are used to make chocolate ice creams all the time (enough with expiration date)

- If a product is easier for you to find (sitting in the center walkway), retailers are making bigger profit from it.

- If you do not need an item to begin with, buying things off of sale is not a good idea.

/enough with free advice.
 
2013-11-26 03:20:08 PM
Buy one, get one free is way better than 1/2 price.
 
2013-11-26 03:21:36 PM

Diogenes: sigdiamond2000: I'm typing this from outside of a Best Buy in Ashtabula, Ohio, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies. I've been camped out here for four days now, singing songs and breaking bread with my fellow Black Friday Rangers. There's a sense of comraderie and fellowship on this sidewalk that I don't expect you cynics to understand.

I'm 6th in line, so I'm pretty much gauranteed a 35" Vizio 750p flat screen for $159. That's a great price for a great product and if you don;t think it's worth it, you need to get over yourselves.

LOL.  I'd love to have had regular updates showing the deterioration of the situation.

"Day 5:  Food is becoming scarce and moral is at an all time low.  Some are claiming there's talk of cannibalism, but I hope these are just rumors and speculation brought on by hunger, fatigue, cold and lack of sleep.  One fellow shopper has restorted to drinking his own urine.  The customers at the adjoining Barnes & Noble eye us with derision and contempt."


Day 6: All hope is almost lost as the blizzard has moved in and buried most of the waiting crowd.  Please Lord forgive me but I cut open the recently deceased soccer mom from the suburbs and used what was left of her body heat to make it through the night.  She was number 3 in line so I am up to 4 as also number 2 wandered off during the whiteout and is presumed dead.  Through the blinding snow and frost on the Best Buy window I can still see my prize.  I covet the TV and it will soon be mine...all mine...I may even purchase the extended warranty but that could be the hypothermia taking.  I would weep but my tears would be frozen
 
2013-11-26 03:26:34 PM

JohnCarter: Diogenes: sigdiamond2000: I'm typing this from outside of a Best Buy in Ashtabula, Ohio, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies. I've been camped out here for four days now, singing songs and breaking bread with my fellow Black Friday Rangers. There's a sense of comraderie and fellowship on this sidewalk that I don't expect you cynics to understand.

I'm 6th in line, so I'm pretty much gauranteed a 35" Vizio 750p flat screen for $159. That's a great price for a great product and if you don;t think it's worth it, you need to get over yourselves.

LOL.  I'd love to have had regular updates showing the deterioration of the situation.

"Day 5:  Food is becoming scarce and moral is at an all time low.  Some are claiming there's talk of cannibalism, but I hope these are just rumors and speculation brought on by hunger, fatigue, cold and lack of sleep.  One fellow shopper has restorted to drinking his own urine.  The customers at the adjoining Barnes & Noble eye us with derision and contempt."

Day 6: All hope is almost lost as the blizzard has moved in and buried most of the waiting crowd.  Please Lord forgive me but I cut open the recently deceased soccer mom from the suburbs and used what was left of her body heat to make it through the night.  She was number 3 in line so I am up to 4 as also number 2 wandered off during the whiteout and is presumed dead.  Through the blinding snow and frost on the Best Buy window I can still see my prize.  I covet the TV and it will soon be mine...all mine...I may even purchase the extended warranty but that could be the hypothermia taking.  I would weep but my tears would be frozen


ROFL.  This would make a most excellent TotalFark Discussion thread.
 
2013-11-26 03:27:58 PM

thefonz37: TomServo24: I don't think this articles tells the whole story.  When I worked retail, I was able to look up the store's cost of items, and for the front page Black Friday deals, most were being sold below cost, particularly electronics where the margins are razor thin to begin with.  The idea being that they are willing to take a real loss on a few items in order to increase traffic into the store to buy other items with more traditional retail markup.

That was my experience too.  My last retail job was part-time at a Circuit City over the holidays, and I the Black Friday prep was mostly, "build lanes surrounded by low-cost, high-markup items that lead towards the sale items we're losing money on".


Sure, when you look at the suggested wholesale cost. Did your store buy directly from the manufacturer, or did you make an order and it came from your store's distro? Volume buying means deep discounts. Been done in the car biz, (or other commission based retail sales), for forever. There's wholesale the company pays, and another wholesale the company charges their own stores. If a store hires their own manufacturing plant in China and buys their own raw materials it gets even better - quick math question, what's the markup on a woman's top that normally retails for $13.99, when the true cost to manufacture and ship 0.025 cents?
 
2013-11-26 03:31:28 PM

Ficoce: thefonz37: TomServo24: I don't think this articles tells the whole story.  When I worked retail, I was able to look up the store's cost of items, and for the front page Black Friday deals, most were being sold below cost, particularly electronics where the margins are razor thin to begin with.  The idea being that they are willing to take a real loss on a few items in order to increase traffic into the store to buy other items with more traditional retail markup.

That was my experience too.  My last retail job was part-time at a Circuit City over the holidays, and I the Black Friday prep was mostly, "build lanes surrounded by low-cost, high-markup items that lead towards the sale items we're losing money on".

Sure, when you look at the suggested wholesale cost. Did your store buy directly from the manufacturer, or did you make an order and it came from your store's distro? Volume buying means deep discounts. Been done in the car biz, (or other commission based retail sales), for forever. There's wholesale the company pays, and another wholesale the company charges their own stores. If a store hires their own manufacturing plant in China and buys their own raw materials it gets even better - quick math question, what's the markup on a woman's top that normally retails for $13.99, when the true cost to manufacture and ship 0.025 cents?


That doesn't read right - meant 2.5 cents or $0.025
 
2013-11-26 03:33:27 PM

JohnCarter: Diogenes: sigdiamond2000: I'm typing this from outside of a Best Buy in Ashtabula, Ohio, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies. I've been camped out here for four days now, singing songs and breaking bread with my fellow Black Friday Rangers. There's a sense of comraderie and fellowship on this sidewalk that I don't expect you cynics to understand.

I'm 6th in line, so I'm pretty much gauranteed a 35" Vizio 750p flat screen for $159. That's a great price for a great product and if you don;t think it's worth it, you need to get over yourselves.

LOL.  I'd love to have had regular updates showing the deterioration of the situation.

"Day 5:  Food is becoming scarce and moral is at an all time low.  Some are claiming there's talk of cannibalism, but I hope these are just rumors and speculation brought on by hunger, fatigue, cold and lack of sleep.  One fellow shopper has restorted to drinking his own urine.  The customers at the adjoining Barnes & Noble eye us with derision and contempt."

Day 6: All hope is almost lost as the blizzard has moved in and buried most of the waiting crowd.  Please Lord forgive me but I cut open the recently deceased soccer mom from the suburbs and used what was left of her body heat to make it through the night.  She was number 3 in line so I am up to 4 as also number 2 wandered off during the whiteout and is presumed dead.  Through the blinding snow and frost on the Best Buy window I can still see my prize.  I covet the TV and it will soon be mine...all mine...I may even purchase the extended warranty but that could be the hypothermia taking.  I would weep but my tears would be frozen


Day 7: I might be delirious from hunger, but is $25 too much to pay for a hot dog from a food cart?  It tasted fantastic, or at least, it tasted better than my shoe did on day 6.  The extra $3 for mustard was totally worth it.
 
2013-11-26 03:35:11 PM

JohnCarter: Diogenes: sigdiamond2000: I'm typing this from outside of a Best Buy in Ashtabula, Ohio, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies. I've been camped out here for four days now, singing songs and breaking bread with my fellow Black Friday Rangers. There's a sense of comraderie and fellowship on this sidewalk that I don't expect you cynics to understand.

I'm 6th in line, so I'm pretty much gauranteed a 35" Vizio 750p flat screen for $159. That's a great price for a great product and if you don;t think it's worth it, you need to get over yourselves.

LOL.  I'd love to have had regular updates showing the deterioration of the situation.

"Day 5:  Food is becoming scarce and moral is at an all time low.  Some are claiming there's talk of cannibalism, but I hope these are just rumors and speculation brought on by hunger, fatigue, cold and lack of sleep.  One fellow shopper has restorted to drinking his own urine.  The customers at the adjoining Barnes & Noble eye us with derision and contempt."

Day 6: All hope is almost lost as the blizzard has moved in and buried most of the waiting crowd.  Please Lord forgive me but I cut open the recently deceased soccer mom from the suburbs and used what was left of her body heat to make it through the night.  She was number 3 in line so I am up to 4 as also number 2 wandered off during the whiteout and is presumed dead.  Through the blinding snow and frost on the Best Buy window I can still see my prize.  I covet the TV and it will soon be mine...all mine...I may even purchase the extended warranty but that could be the hypothermia taking.  I would weep but my tears would be frozen


Day 7: The white rabbit stopped by to talk to me again. He says he will hold my place in line so I can go get coffee from the forest badger, but I don't believe him. He wishes to own my tv. But I will not allow this to pass. I am so cold now. So very cold. I don't know if I am awake any more. I want to sleep but the chocolate cows are keeping me awake with their singing. I think I am getting better. I don't shiver any more. I think I will lay down in the snow and rest....just a little while....Tell Sally I love her...
 
2013-11-26 03:37:24 PM
Meh. I've waited outside a Best Buy once. Got up early and lined up at 3:30am. By 6:15 am, I drove off with a new desktop PC, monitor, and a printer for $400. Machine had what was a lot of memory for the time (8GB), quad core, 1TB drive, and comparable systems continued to sell for $650 for the next 5 or 6 months, without the monitor or printer.

So, in under three hours, I saved myself probably $350. That's more than I make in three hours, and since I'm salaried, I wasn't missing work to be there.

Not sure how they afforded that one. They were pushing some Geek Squad services, cables, and ink, so maybe that was enough for them if a few people said "yes" to any of that. The only other thing I can think is that HP subsidized the whole thing to sell ink and make some money off their bloatware. This was 3 years ago, and we're still using the PC, and haven't spent a penny on it since (ink or otherwise).

Hate on Black Friday all you want, but there are good deals, and they are not all difficult to get.
 
2013-11-26 03:38:45 PM

Diogenes: Genju: Diogenes: Genju: Diogenes: But to the point of TFA....

Yeah.  About three weeks ago I went to an outlet center.  "50% of all merchandise!" at one store.  Sounds great, until you see the original sticker price for a fleece jacket was $90.  Are people really that dumb?  Here in Orlando, I swear they've given up on the locals and are just trying to sucker tourists - especially tourists from other countries.

The further you get from OIA (er... MCO) the better.

This is the one kinda sorta where Dolly Parton's Dixie Stampede used to be.  Total tourist area.

I'm trying to remember, but isn't there one about 15 minutes from MCO where all the upper class live? There's a Banana Republic, American Eagle, Armani, etc. It's one giant outdoor mall that is almost impossible to ever find a parking spot.

/always shops after Christmas

Well, that selection of stores doesn't really narrow it down.  But I'm inclined to think you're talking about the ones on the far end of I-Drive.  Near Festival Bay.

But it could also be the ones I'm referring to.  They're not far from me, and I'm right down the B-line from the airport.

Hard to say...parking is impossible regardless of the time year at both locations.  There's more residential area at the one nearer to me.


Yeah I can't remember well. I just remember getting off a main road, all the shops / parking was on the left and the right was just some grass and a chain link fence across a large property.
 
2013-11-26 03:42:16 PM
Diogenes

Premier Outlets Orlando.
 
2013-11-26 03:45:54 PM

Genju: Diogenes

Premier Outlets Orlando.


Yep!  That's the one by me.  That large empty property is where Dixie Stampede used to be.  They've expanded the outlets there now and have  Sak's Fifth Avenue over there.

It's been years since I found a truly good deal there.  It was the Bass outlet that 50% off a $90 fleece.  Meh.
 
2013-11-26 03:49:46 PM

sigdiamond2000: I'm typing this from outside of a Best Buy in Ashtabula, Ohio, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies. I've been camped out here for four days now, singing songs and breaking bread with my fellow Black Friday Rangers. There's a sense of comraderie and fellowship on this sidewalk that I don't expect you cynics to understand.

I'm 6th in line, so I'm pretty much gauranteed a 35" Vizio 750p flat screen for $159. That's a great price for a great product and if you don;t think it's worth it, you need to get over yourselves.


Four days plus $159. For me that's about a $1000 TV at that point and that's only counting the missed work.
 
2013-11-26 03:50:36 PM

Diogenes: Genju: Diogenes

Premier Outlets Orlando.

Yep!  That's the one by me.  That large empty property is where Dixie Stampede used to be.  They've expanded the outlets there now and have  Sak's Fifth Avenue over there.

It's been years since I found a truly good deal there.  It was the Bass outlet that 50% off a $90 fleece.  Meh.


Banana Republic had some good clearance stuff on plain (many different color choices) short sleeve T's for like 3 for $15 or something like that. American Eagle had some good jean deals. Those jeans have lasted me 2 years without a hole or anything unlike Levis or Arizona. But places like Armani (Exchange too) all were overpriced crap as far as more casual wear. Aldo shoes had some great deals but their selection left over were too narrow for my feet :(

I'll probably go again in January.
 
2013-11-26 03:52:03 PM

Ponzholio: I don't think I've ever purchased anything from Kohl's without the 30% off coupon AND Kohl's cash. I know full well it's a marketing gimmick but I'll be damned if I don't leave that place without some sort of self-accomplishment.


JC Penny's last year tried to bring sanity to this by saying "you know what? our sales and coupons are bullshiat, let's just lower the everyday prices and stop all this nonsense"

they got SLAUGHTERED by stupid consumers  who were angry they'd "raised prices" by discontinuing all those coupons

Similarly Wal-Mart generally doesn't have the lowest prices on things, except for 200 core items they know everybody generally knows the price of and certain electronics that are easy to compare across stores (though the model made for Wal-mart uses inferior components typically).  They do this to make you THINK they are cheaper than other places on everything

and for all my holier than though attitude I'm guilty of this too.  Used to feel like a failure if the "you saved" line on my grocery recipet wasn;t at least as much as the "you spent" one.

But then I joined Costco for other reasons and started shopping there and noticed my overall grocery bill was MUCH lower even though I wasn;t leveraging every coupon sale and markdown sticker like a madman.   (course now there is a "grocery outlet" near me where I can pick up $4/box  organic oatmeal for 3 boxes/$1 and wheels of $15/lb cheese for $1.99/lb and 4/$1 four packs of Greek Yogurt) the sickness is back a little)
 
2013-11-26 03:56:14 PM

Random Anonymous Blackmail: Diogenes

sigdiamond2000: I'm typing this from outside of a Best Buy in Ashtabula, Ohio, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies. I've been camped out here for four days now, singing songs and breaking bread with my fellow Black Friday Rangers. There's a sense of comraderie and fellowship on this sidewalk that I don't expect you cynics to understand.

I'm 6th in line, so I'm pretty much gauranteed a 35" Vizio 750p flat screen for $159. That's a great price for a great product and if you don;t think it's worth it, you need to get over yourselves.

LOL. I'd love to have had regular updates showing the deterioration of the situation.

"Day 5: Food is becoming scarce and moral is at an all time low. Some are claiming there's talk of cannibalism, but I hope these are just rumors and speculation brought on by hunger, fatigue, cold and lack of sleep. One fellow shopper has restorted to drinking his own urine. The customers at the adjoining Barnes & Noble eye us with derision and contempt."


Day 12 sigdiamond200 dies of dysentery.


ROFL should have hired a ferry instead of trying to ford the river.
 
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