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(The Wire)   Bad: The President gets heckled during a major speech. Somebody is getting fired: by one of the people that were invited up on stage to serve as a human backdrop for the speech   (thewire.com ) divider line
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2013-11-26 12:39:43 PM  
Staged.  Right afterwards he caught another pregnant woman who was fainting and fixed helped and helped a wounded veteran in the audience who dropped his cane.
 
2013-11-26 12:39:54 PM  
And also by a guy who apparently doesn't understand the concept of separation of powers.
 
2013-11-26 12:45:42 PM  

Mentat: And also by a guy who apparently doesn't understand the concept of separation of powers.


Well if the leader doesn't how can we except it from the citizenry?
 
2013-11-26 12:48:39 PM  

mrshowrules: Staged.  Right afterwards he caught another pregnant woman who was fainting and fixed helped and helped a wounded veteran in the audience who dropped his cane.


I know you're being sarcastic, but that's actually the first thing I thought...it was too perfect.
 
2013-11-26 12:50:32 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Mentat: And also by a guy who apparently doesn't understand the concept of separation of powers.

Well if the leader doesn't how can we except it from the citizenry?


Hold on a second, I got some herp in my eye.
 
2013-11-26 12:51:48 PM  

oh_please: mrshowrules: Staged.  Right afterwards he caught another pregnant woman who was fainting and fixed helped and helped a wounded veteran in the audience who dropped his cane.

I know you're being sarcastic, but that's actually the first thing I thought...it was too perfect.


Let me just say, if right-winger claimed this, I wouldn't give them too hard of a time.  I think if the tables were turned I would be calling fake.

I can see, a handler telling Obama sometime before the speech, "don't be surprised if the people in the audience behind you, get vocal".
 
2013-11-26 01:11:29 PM  

Mentat: And also by a guy who apparently doesn't understand the concept of separation of powers.


What was Mitch McConnell doing there?
 
2013-11-26 01:12:55 PM  
This guy is much more mature than I.
 
2013-11-26 01:14:41 PM  

Mentat: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Mentat: And also by a guy who apparently doesn't understand the concept of separation of powers.

Well if the leader doesn't how can we except it from the citizenry?

Hold on a second, I got some herp in my eye.


You should ask him to aim better.
 
2013-11-26 01:14:57 PM  
That guy was annoying. Really annoying.
 
2013-11-26 01:17:31 PM  

mrshowrules: Staged.  Right afterwards he caught another pregnant woman who was fainting and fixed helped and helped a wounded veteran in the audience who dropped his cane.


Considering that 1) The Secret Service would have swarmed him the moment that he opened his mouth (if he wasn't a plant), 2) that they screen the people who get that close to the president yet somehow missed than an illegal immigrant got back there and 3) that Obama's usual stammer (which was present at first) magically went away as he addressed what the guy was saying making it more likely that it was pre-written, I'd set the odds very high that you are correct.

/no, i'm not criticizing the presidents speech pattern but it is a tell as to when he is speaking off of the cuff
 
2013-11-26 01:19:27 PM  
So who got fired?
 
2013-11-26 01:20:08 PM  
Can you imagine ANY republican president calling off the secret service and engaging a heckler like this?
 
2013-11-26 01:20:29 PM  
And this is why Democrats can never get anything done. They wait until almost victory before shooting each other in the back.
 
2013-11-26 01:20:53 PM  

Radioactive Ass: mrshowrules: Staged.  Right afterwards he caught another pregnant woman who was fainting and fixed helped and helped a wounded veteran in the audience who dropped his cane.

Considering that 1) The Secret Service would have swarmed him the moment that he opened his mouth (if he wasn't a plant), 2) that they screen the people who get that close to the president yet somehow missed than an illegal immigrant got back there and 3) that Obama's usual stammer (which was present at first) magically went away as he addressed what the guy was saying making it more likely that it was pre-written, I'd set the odds very high that you are correct.

/no, i'm not criticizing the presidents speech pattern but it is a tell as to when he is speaking off of the cuff


Lol, what? Who said that?
 
2013-11-26 01:21:16 PM  
Personally, I just want to hear the president tell somebody to shut up. He doesn't need to explain himself to some idiot in the faux audience. This isn't a classroom or a debate, but if he feels like he really has to respond, then he should just tell the SoB to shut up.
 
2013-11-26 01:21:40 PM  

Radioactive Ass: mrshowrules: Staged.  Right afterwards he caught another pregnant woman who was fainting and fixed helped and helped a wounded veteran in the audience who dropped his cane.

Considering that 1) The Secret Service would have swarmed him the moment that he opened his mouth (if he wasn't a plant), 2) that they screen the people who get that close to the president yet somehow missed than an illegal immigrant got back there and 3) that Obama's usual stammer (which was present at first) magically went away as he addressed what the guy was saying making it more likely that it was pre-written, I'd set the odds very high that you are correct.

/no, i'm not criticizing the presidents speech pattern but it is a tell as to when he is speaking off of the cuff


We know the guy was an illegal how again?
 
2013-11-26 01:22:26 PM  
It's funny when the pre-show handlers get caught when assembling the human backdrop.  "OK, no, enough white people, we need a minority.  No, we've got enough blacks, too.  Got some Asians for me?"

Can't leave that diversity thing to chance, now, can we?  (And by "diversity" they only mean diversity of look, as usual.)
 
2013-11-26 01:24:07 PM  

Fart_Machine: Radioactive Ass: mrshowrules: Staged.  Right afterwards he caught another pregnant woman who was fainting and fixed helped and helped a wounded veteran in the audience who dropped his cane.

Considering that 1) The Secret Service would have swarmed him the moment that he opened his mouth (if he wasn't a plant), 2) that they screen the people who get that close to the president yet somehow missed than an illegal immigrant got back there and 3) that Obama's usual stammer (which was present at first) magically went away as he addressed what the guy was saying making it more likely that it was pre-written, I'd set the odds very high that you are correct.

/no, i'm not criticizing the presidents speech pattern but it is a tell as to when he is speaking off of the cuff

We know the guy was an illegal how again?


Because all messicans are illegal wetbacks.
 
2013-11-26 01:25:28 PM  

Radioactive Ass: mrshowrules: Staged.  Right afterwards he caught another pregnant woman who was fainting and fixed helped and helped a wounded veteran in the audience who dropped his cane.

Considering that 1) The Secret Service would have swarmed him the moment that he opened his mouth (if he wasn't a plant), 2) that they screen the people who get that close to the president yet somehow missed than an illegal immigrant got back there and 3) that Obama's usual stammer (which was present at first) magically went away as he addressed what the guy was saying making it more likely that it was pre-written, I'd set the odds very high that you are correct.

/no, i'm not criticizing the presidents speech pattern but it is a tell as to when he is speaking off of the cuff



1 and 2) Bush dodged not one, but two thrown shoes. Secret Service was nowhere.

3) People can be quite articulate and focused when they get pissed off. Obama finally had a face and voice for all of the sniping he's been taking for being a moderate and he could tell it off in a public venue. The predatory part of our brains loves those moments.
 
2013-11-26 01:25:28 PM  

Radioactive Ass: mrshowrules: Staged.  Right afterwards he caught another pregnant woman who was fainting and fixed helped and helped a wounded veteran in the audience who dropped his cane.

Considering that 1) The Secret Service would have swarmed him the moment that he opened his mouth (if he wasn't a plant), 2) that they screen the people who get that close to the president yet somehow missed than an illegal immigrant got back there and 3) that Obama's usual stammer (which was present at first) magically went away as he addressed what the guy was saying making it more likely that it was pre-written, I'd set the odds very high that you are correct.

/no, i'm not criticizing the presidents speech pattern but it is a tell as to when he is speaking off of the cuff


FTFA:
When Secret Service moved in to remove the protestor, Obama told them not to.

Try reading the article before you spout your talking points and maybe you can avoid sounding quite so stupid.
 
2013-11-26 01:25:52 PM  
Mr. President, why don't you just use your dictatorial powers and thug army to create your socialist utopia like the GOP/Conservative Lamestream Media says you are doing?
 
2013-11-26 01:26:56 PM  

JohnAnnArbor: It's funny when the pre-show handlers get caught when assembling the human backdrop.  "OK, no, enough white people, we need a minority.  No, we've got enough blacks, too.   Got some Asians for me?"

Can't leave that diversity thing to chance, now, can we?  (And by "diversity" they only mean diversity of look, as usual.)


You know this was taking place at the Chinese Recreation Center, right? Might be some Asians there, fyi.

/SF is also a pretty diverse city
 
2013-11-26 01:28:24 PM  
Video is the umpteenth reminder that, no matter how divergent our political views, I like Obama.  He's a good guy.
 
2013-11-26 01:28:53 PM  

Radioactive Ass: mrshowrules: Staged.  Right afterwards he caught another pregnant woman who was fainting and fixed helped and helped a wounded veteran in the audience who dropped his cane.

Considering that 1) The Secret Service would have swarmed him the moment that he opened his mouth (if he wasn't a plant), 2) that they screen the people who get that close to the president yet somehow missed than an illegal immigrant got back there and 3) that Obama's usual stammer (which was present at first) magically went away as he addressed what the guy was saying making it more likely that it was pre-written, I'd set the odds very high that you are correct.

/no, i'm not criticizing the presidents speech pattern but it is a tell as to when he is speaking off of the cuff


Googled "uhh, Obama." Surprisingly, no one has shopped a Wizard of Uhhs yet for him. But there are potato amount of shops done on the subject.
 
2013-11-26 01:29:05 PM  

Nabb1: That guy was annoying. Really annoying.


The outburst is becoming a tired and stale tactic for attention.  You may not agree with the President, but when you're there you STFU and show respect, no matter whether you agree or not.

You get your voice heard at the ballot box, not by making a spectacle of yourself.
 
2013-11-26 01:29:40 PM  
Radioactive Ass:
Considering that 1) The Secret Service would have swarmed him the moment that he opened his mouth (if he wasn't a plant), 2) that they screen the people who get that close to the president yet somehow missed than an illegal immigrant got back there and 3) that Obama's usual stammer (which was present at first) magically went away as he addressed what the guy was saying making it more likely that it was pre-written, I'd set the odds very high that you are correct.

1) The SS did approach the man, and Obama waved them off.

2) Illegal? Que?

3) Derp. I've heard the man speak extemporaneously plenty of times before; this did not seem out of character at all.

So you're not just wrong. You're a wrong person saying wrong things and wallowing in a puddle of your own wrongness.
 
2013-11-26 01:30:22 PM  
FALSE FLAG
 
2013-11-26 01:30:52 PM  

Isitoveryet: Mr. President, why don't you just use your dictatorial powers and thug army to create your socialist utopia like the GOP/Conservative Lamestream Media says you are doing?


This. I want my death panels and FEMA trailer already.
 
2013-11-26 01:31:07 PM  

Skarekrough: Nabb1: That guy was annoying. Really annoying.

The outburst is becoming a tired and stale tactic for attention.  You may not agree with the President, but when you're there you STFU and show respect, no matter whether you agree or not.

You get your voice heard at the ballot box, not by making a spectacle of yourself.


i2.cdn.turner.com
 
2013-11-26 01:31:39 PM  
Another FALSE FLAG.  Why is the media being clearly duped by these staged events.
 
2013-11-26 01:35:46 PM  

Robin Hoodie: Personally, I just want to hear the president tell somebody to shut up. He doesn't need to explain himself to some idiot in the faux audience. This isn't a classroom or a debate, but if he feels like he really has to respond, then he should just tell the SoB to shut up.


There's video of Reagan doing just that.
 
2013-11-26 01:36:03 PM  

Skarekrough: Nabb1: That guy was annoying. Really annoying.

The outburst is becoming a tired and stale tactic for attention.  You may not agree with the President, but when you're there you STFU and show respect, no matter whether you agree or not.

You get your voice heard at the ballot box, not by making a spectacle of yourself.


It's cute you think that'll work.
 
2013-11-26 01:37:42 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Another FALSE FLAG.  Why is the media being clearly duped by these staged events.


I can't tell anymore if someone is serious about this stuff.
 
2013-11-26 01:38:15 PM  
President Obama handled that really really well. I'm impressed. I can't imagine many would have told the secret service not to kick them out and then calmy discussed the issue like that.
 
2013-11-26 01:38:46 PM  

Burning_Monk: JohnAnnArbor: It's funny when the pre-show handlers get caught when assembling the human backdrop.  "OK, no, enough white people, we need a minority.  No, we've got enough blacks, too.   Got some Asians for me?"

Can't leave that diversity thing to chance, now, can we?  (And by "diversity" they only mean diversity of look, as usual.)

You know this was taking place at the Chinese Recreation Center, right? Might be some Asians there, fyi.

/SF is also a pretty diverse city


I'm saying "in general," not for this specific thing.  The handlers are as race-conscious as university admissions officers, for all the wrong reasons ("we must look diverse for the cameras").
 
2013-11-26 01:39:13 PM  
For all of those asking, Ju Hong (the heckler) is here illegally and is under deferred action for being here illegally under Obama's present immigration policies. His parents brought him here when he was 11 on a tourist visa and never left.

He is an illegal immigrant in Berkley and a pretty well known activist on the subject. Maybe you all should read a bit more outside of your daily talking points being fed to you by your masters before you jump on people pointing out what the media won't tell you. Yes I RTFA and no they conveniently left out what a simple Google search would have told them.
 
2013-11-26 01:39:13 PM  
One of my (rich liberal white Berkeley "activist") acquaintances is friends with this guy, and is all proud of him for this. I had to ask her what she expects Obama to do. Senate passed reform 68-32 in June, Boehner said he'll never bring it up in the House.

Fartbongo is already doing deferred action by executive order. What else is he supposed to exactly? I hate how progressives save their hate for their friends and not their enemies. Why isn't this dude hunger striking or picketing Boehner's office if he wants to call attention to the matter? Why not interrupt a Republican house rep event? Dumbass.
 
2013-11-26 01:40:41 PM  
"You have the power to stop the deportation process," the young man said. "Actually, I don't," Obama responded.

Bullshiat
 
2013-11-26 01:42:09 PM  

ladodger34: Because all messicans are illegal wetbacks.


My, how vey enlightened of you... Wait did I say enlightened? I meant racist. The Heckler is Asian. You assumed that he was Mexican though so I guess that that says a lot about you.
 
2013-11-26 01:42:27 PM  
Yeah, if Fartbongo looks good it's gotta be fake, right?
 
2013-11-26 01:43:36 PM  
"MR. PRESIDENT WHY WON'T YOU SIGN AN EXECUTIVE ORDER TO BRING BACK SPRINKLE SPANGLES CEREAL?!"

"If in fact I could bring back Sprinkle Spangles without passing something in Congress, I would do so. But we're also a nation of Cookie Crisp. That's part of our tradition. And so the easy way out is to try to yell and pretend like I don't want to be spangled from every angle with sprinkles. What I'm proposing is the harder path, which is to use overwhelming force, drones and NSA spying techniques to strong arm General Mills into halting production of the obviously inferior Sprinkled Cookie Crisp Cereal and resuming manufacture of those delicious sweetened corn puffs with sprinkles. But it won't be as easy as just shouting. It requires star-shaped pieces, multicolored sprinkles, and a little bit of magic. If you wish it, I dish it, America."
 
2013-11-26 01:45:43 PM  

RanDomino: "You have the power to stop the deportation process," the young man said. "Actually, I don't," Obama responded.

Bullshiat



Concur.  Pretty sure Obama has the ability to stem the flow of deportations... Clinton did it.
 
2013-11-26 01:46:04 PM  

Radioactive Ass: ladodger34: Because all messicans are illegal wetbacks.

My, how vey enlightened of you... Wait did I say enlightened? I meant racist. The Heckler is Asian. You assumed that he was Mexican though so I guess that that says a lot about you.


Mea culpa. That's what I get for NRTFA.
 
2013-11-26 01:47:54 PM  
 
2013-11-26 01:48:02 PM  
This isn't a "free speech" issue, it's about being a douchebag.

There is an unwritten understanding (that is increasingly having to be written and explained to morons) regarding public speeches by important figures (or anyone giving a speech really).  They agree to come to a place and say their piece to a crowd; the crowd agrees to hear it and not act like infants.  If you don't want to sit still and hear what the guest has to say, then DON'T GO.  If you can't abide by this agreement, then you are not welcome in the venue and you are trespassing and the host has every right to make you leave.  This isn't tyranny, it's called behaving like a civilized adult and not being a douchebag to the speaker and to everyone else who's there to hear him.
 
2013-11-26 01:49:31 PM  
Anyone remember the old "Shimmer floor wax" commercial from SNL? It's all I can think of when barraged by these headlines.


"Obama is a marxist socialist dictator who will take your guns! No Obama is an empty stuffed suit community organizer who couldn't lead Fox News to a scandal!....He's BOTH!"
 
2013-11-26 01:51:47 PM  

Radioactive Ass: ladodger34: Because all messicans are illegal wetbacks.

My, how vey enlightened of you... Wait did I say enlightened? I meant racist. The Heckler is Asian. You assumed that he was Mexican though so I guess that that says a lot about you.


I thnk your sarcasm meter needs another quarter inserted.

Also, this is one of those things I really find neat about Obama.  When you have a clear understanding of your subject matter, and aren't just regurgitating smoeone else's facts, you can deal calmly, intelligently, and even reasonably when faced with a heckler.  People like him have a gift for making the ouburst-er (look, I made up a word!) look foolish and unprepared.
 
2013-11-26 01:54:10 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Hong, however, now has a work permit, driver's license and cannot be deported because of the Obama administration's order last year granting a reprieve to young immigrants like him.


No see it's unpossible Obama knew this so it's a false flag and such as.
 
2013-11-26 01:54:11 PM  

urbangirl: Try reading the article before you spout your talking points and maybe you can avoid sounding quite so stupid.


Believe it or not the President doesn't get to make that call. If the Secret Service sees a threat they act, end of discussion. They are the trained professionals in charge of making that call.

I think it's the right idea too. Yeah they are there to protect the President but other agents and the general population need to be protected too.

cefm: This isn't a "free speech" issue, it's about being a douchebag.


I fully agree with this statement. That crowd was there to see the President, not some dip wad.
 
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