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(Washington Post)   So, about WHO's report that half of Greece's new HIV infections were deliberately self-inflicted to gain government benefits? The funny thing is, the plural of anecdote is not "data"   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 27
    More: Followup, World Health Organization, HIV, Greece, public good, harm reduction  
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2013-11-26 12:27:02 PM  
Wouldn't just admitting you thought about this force you into the mentally unstable bracket, and there for more government benefits?
 
2013-11-26 12:27:48 PM  
The report did go on to suggest, however, that Greek citizens are actually using a variant of the "Knockout Game" currently sweeping America like wildfire to cause physical injury to one another that would render them eligible for government aid and free stays in hospitals.
 
2013-11-26 12:31:38 PM  
It's anecdata.
 
2013-11-26 12:35:20 PM  
And so this is the end of our story
And everyone is dead from AIDS
It took from me my best friend
My only true pal
My only bright star (he died of AIDS)

Well I'm gonna march on Washington
Lead the fight and charge the brigades
There's a hero inside of all of us
I'll make them see everyone has AIDS

My father (AIDS!)
My sister (AIDS!)
My uncle and my cousin and her best friend (AIDS AIDS AIDS!)
The gays and the straights
And the Greeks and the spades

Everyone has AIDS!
My grandma and my dog 'ol blue (AIDS AIDS AIDS)
The pope has got it and so do you (AIDS AIDS AIDS AIDS AIDS)
C'mon everybody we got quilting to do (AIDS AIDS AIDS AIDS AIDS)
We gotta break down these baricades, everyone has
AIDS!AIDS!  AIDS!  AIDS!  AIDS!  AIDS!  AIDS!  AIDS!  AIDS!  AIDS!  A I DS!  AIDS!  AIDS!  AIDS!  AIDS!  AIDS!  AIDS!
 
2013-11-26 01:00:32 PM  
Hey, 700 euros is 700 euros.
 
2013-11-26 01:05:35 PM  
This won't do a thing to stop the avalance of FW:FW;fw:FW:fw:fw:FW emails rumbling across the Internet right now.
 
2013-11-26 01:08:32 PM  

jake_lex: This won't do a thing to stop the avalance of FW:FW;fw:FW:fw:fw:FW emails rumbling across the Internet right now.


Yeah, possibly, but once Rush Limbaugh and all the other journalists who reported this issue their retractions, that'll get nipped right in bud. Just be patient and wait for responsible journalism to correct its course.
 
2013-11-26 01:23:23 PM  

Pocket Ninja: jake_lex: This won't do a thing to stop the avalance of FW:FW;fw:FW:fw:fw:FW emails rumbling across the Internet right now.

Yeah, possibly, but once Rush Limbaugh and all the other journalists who reported this issue their retractions, that'll get nipped right in bud. Just be patient and wait for responsible journalism to correct its course.


This shall occur upon initiation of trans-rectal simian aviation.
 
2013-11-26 01:26:26 PM  

Pocket Ninja: jake_lex: This won't do a thing to stop the avalance of FW:FW;fw:FW:fw:fw:FW emails rumbling across the Internet right now.

Yeah, possibly, but once Rush Limbaugh and all the other journalists who reported this issue their retractions, that'll get nipped right in bud. Just be patient and wait for responsible journalism to correct its course.


Rush Limbaugh already issued his retraction.

And by that I mean he rambled on for 10 minutes about the "liberal media" not taking responsibility for its actions, before briefly stating that the story wasn't true.

All of this, of course, without accepting responsibility for his part spreading the story. No, it was all the lib media's fault.
 
2013-11-26 02:10:19 PM  
We won't get fooled again!
 
2013-11-26 02:10:40 PM  
You don't say. :-/
 
2013-11-26 02:11:36 PM  
Who made who?
 
2013-11-26 02:17:49 PM  

doyner: trans-rectal simian aviation


Is that... is that flying rape ape? Or, flying ape rape?

Because, that'd be a great band name.
 
2013-11-26 02:21:42 PM  
What's the problem? Doesn't everyone know that doing "Greek" without protection is a great way to get AIDS?
 
2013-11-26 02:46:57 PM  

drumhellar: doyner: trans-rectal simian aviation

Is that... is that flying rape ape? Or, flying ape rape?

Because, that'd be a great band name.


Nah, just monkeys flying out of my butt.
 
2013-11-26 02:51:37 PM  
Doesn't matter.  It's now an Article of Faith, and any attempt to debunk it will be dismissed as a Libfact™.
 
2013-11-26 02:52:33 PM  
So let's say there is a bad report about world health.  Who takes the blame?
 
2013-11-26 03:09:50 PM  
I've read that countries like Greece, Italy, and Japan basically think HIV is some trumped up Big-Pharma thing perpetrated by the West... so... hey,,, why not grab some extra dough in exchange for having a different classification of your blood?
 
2013-11-26 03:41:43 PM  
Kids in Cuba were doing that 20 years ago. But it was political and not so much to mooch on socialism.  Not sure how well it worked out for them.
 
2013-11-26 03:52:17 PM  
To be honest, I'd say most new cases of HIV are 'deliberately self-inflicted', for any reasonably generous definition of deliberate.  If I run around, dressed in black, in and out of a busy road, at night, and I get hit.....I'd say that was deliberate enough.

The infection rate for HIV is actually pretty low too.  Most people who get HIV don't do 'one' stupid thing, they do one stupid thing, over and over.

* Gay dudes, stop getting HIV.  Wear a condom.  Have less sexual partners.  Have less sexual partners who have lots of sexual partners.  Seriously, you suck at not getting HIV.
* Black people, stop getting HIV.  Wear a condom.  Have less sexual partners.  Have less sexual partners who have lots of sexual partners.   You're almost as bad as the gays.
* Whites/Latinos...stop getting HIV.  Wear a condom.  Have less sexual partners.  Have less sexual partners who have lots of sexual partners.   You're doing better than the blacks and the gays but, come'on.  How hard is it to wear a condom?
* Drug users...stop getting HIV.  Don't share needles.

Yes, there are other ways to get HIV, but it's so rare it doesn't even make the charts.  Unprotected gay sex, unprotected sex, dirty needle drugs....stop them and HIV goes away.  The other ways of getting HIV require someone who has it, and inevitably, it'll be someone who got it from the above...during pregnancy, during expose via work (like an EMT), etc...
 
2013-11-26 03:56:11 PM  

Makh: So let's say there is a bad report about world health.  Who takes the blame?


WHO
 
2013-11-26 04:15:48 PM  
Also, I claim vindication from the previous thread on this where I declared it never actually happened.

OK, it did, but it was one or two people.  Close enough.
 
2013-11-26 05:25:12 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: To be honest, I'd say most new cases of HIV are 'deliberately self-inflicted', for any reasonably generous definition of deliberate.  If I run around, dressed in black, in and out of a busy road, at night, and I get hit.....I'd say that was deliberate enough.

The infection rate for HIV is actually pretty low too.  Most people who get HIV don't do 'one' stupid thing, they do one stupid thing, over and over.

* Gay dudes, stop getting HIV.  Wear a condom.  Have less sexual partners.  Have less sexual partners who have lots of sexual partners.  Seriously, you suck at not getting HIV.
* Black people, stop getting HIV.  Wear a condom.  Have less sexual partners.  Have less sexual partners who have lots of sexual partners.   You're almost as bad as the gays.
* Whites/Latinos...stop getting HIV.  Wear a condom.  Have less sexual partners.  Have less sexual partners who have lots of sexual partners.   You're doing better than the blacks and the gays but, come'on.  How hard is it to wear a condom?
* Drug users...stop getting HIV.  Don't share needles.

Yes, there are other ways to get HIV, but it's so rare it doesn't even make the charts.  Unprotected gay sex, unprotected sex, dirty needle drugs....stop them and HIV goes away.  The other ways of getting HIV require someone who has it, and inevitably, it'll be someone who got it from the above...during pregnancy, during expose via work (like an EMT), etc...



The Catholic Church would like to have a word with you...
 
2013-11-26 05:46:36 PM  

Prof. Ann Marion: Fark_Guy_Rob: To be honest, I'd say most new cases of HIV are 'deliberately self-inflicted', for any reasonably generous definition of deliberate.  If I run around, dressed in black, in and out of a busy road, at night, and I get hit.....I'd say that was deliberate enough.

The infection rate for HIV is actually pretty low too.  Most people who get HIV don't do 'one' stupid thing, they do one stupid thing, over and over.

* Gay dudes, stop getting HIV.  Wear a condom.  Have less sexual partners.  Have less sexual partners who have lots of sexual partners.  Seriously, you suck at not getting HIV.
* Black people, stop getting HIV.  Wear a condom.  Have less sexual partners.  Have less sexual partners who have lots of sexual partners.   You're almost as bad as the gays.
* Whites/Latinos...stop getting HIV.  Wear a condom.  Have less sexual partners.  Have less sexual partners who have lots of sexual partners.   You're doing better than the blacks and the gays but, come'on.  How hard is it to wear a condom?
* Drug users...stop getting HIV.  Don't share needles.

Yes, there are other ways to get HIV, but it's so rare it doesn't even make the charts.  Unprotected gay sex, unprotected sex, dirty needle drugs....stop them and HIV goes away.  The other ways of getting HIV require someone who has it, and inevitably, it'll be someone who got it from the above...during pregnancy, during expose via work (like an EMT), etc...


The Catholic Church would like to have a word with you...


What, about the condoms? Yeah, well, I would like to have two words with them about that, and those two words are, approximately, "Fark off".
 
2013-11-26 06:44:30 PM  

Mithiwithi: Prof. Ann Marion: Fark_Guy_Rob: To be honest, I'd say most new cases of HIV are 'deliberately self-inflicted', for any reasonably generous definition of deliberate.  If I run around, dressed in black, in and out of a busy road, at night, and I get hit.....I'd say that was deliberate enough.

The infection rate for HIV is actually pretty low too.  Most people who get HIV don't do 'one' stupid thing, they do one stupid thing, over and over.

* Gay dudes, stop getting HIV.  Wear a condom.  Have less sexual partners.  Have less sexual partners who have lots of sexual partners.  Seriously, you suck at not getting HIV.
* Black people, stop getting HIV.  Wear a condom.  Have less sexual partners.  Have less sexual partners who have lots of sexual partners.   You're almost as bad as the gays.
* Whites/Latinos...stop getting HIV.  Wear a condom.  Have less sexual partners.  Have less sexual partners who have lots of sexual partners.   You're doing better than the blacks and the gays but, come'on.  How hard is it to wear a condom?
* Drug users...stop getting HIV.  Don't share needles.

Yes, there are other ways to get HIV, but it's so rare it doesn't even make the charts.  Unprotected gay sex, unprotected sex, dirty needle drugs....stop them and HIV goes away.  The other ways of getting HIV require someone who has it, and inevitably, it'll be someone who got it from the above...during pregnancy, during expose via work (like an EMT), etc...


The Catholic Church would like to have a word with you...

What, about the condoms? Yeah, well, I would like to have two words with them about that, and those two words are, approximately, "Fark off".


I agree, and I agree with the OP, but to say, "just do this..." doesn't take into consideration the reality of outside influences on a person's ability to make these types of decisions.
 
2013-11-27 12:11:53 PM  
Anecdotes are, of course, data. They're not necessarily true, but data doesn't have to be true. It just has to be information.
 
2013-11-27 01:29:59 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: To be honest, I'd say most new cases of HIV are 'deliberately self-inflicted', for any reasonably generous definition of deliberate.  If I run around, dressed in black, in and out of a busy road, at night, and I get hit.....I'd say that was deliberate enough.

The infection rate for HIV is actually pretty low too.  Most people who get HIV don't do 'one' stupid thing, they do one stupid thing, over and over.

* Gay dudes, stop getting HIV.  Wear a condom.  Have less sexual partners.  Have less sexual partners who have lots of sexual partners.  Seriously, you suck at not getting HIV.
* Black people, stop getting HIV.  Wear a condom.  Have less sexual partners.  Have less sexual partners who have lots of sexual partners.   You're almost as bad as the gays.
* Whites/Latinos...stop getting HIV.  Wear a condom.  Have less sexual partners.  Have less sexual partners who have lots of sexual partners.   You're doing better than the blacks and the gays but, come'on.  How hard is it to wear a condom?
* Drug users...stop getting HIV.  Don't share needles.

Yes, there are other ways to get HIV, but it's so rare it doesn't even make the charts.  Unprotected gay sex, unprotected sex, dirty needle drugs....stop them and HIV goes away.  The other ways of getting HIV require someone who has it, and inevitably, it'll be someone who got it from the above...during pregnancy, during expose via work (like an EMT), etc...


I want you to go tell people dying of lung cancer that they shouldn't have smoked, people dying of skin cancer that they shouldn't have gone to the beach, people who dies of a heart attack that they ate too many chicken fried steaks.
 
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