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(Politico)   Former Rand Paul Aide: Sure during my career as a "right-wing shock jock" I may have toasted John Wilkes Booth's birthday, & compared Lincoln to Hitler, but that wasn't because I was racist, but just because I cared so much about conservative values   (politico.com) divider line 82
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2013-11-26 11:18:57 AM
That Rand Paul aide was me. I had written and said all of these things.
- Rand Paul
 
2013-11-26 11:22:45 AM
Or the value of people owned by conservatives.
 
2013-11-26 11:25:10 AM

James!: Or the value of people owned by conservatives.


No, Lincoln was a Republican and therefore all slaves were owned by liberals #QED #tcot
 
2013-11-26 11:30:26 AM
Even if I totally believe this guy that he never meant any of the things he said as his "Southern Avenger" persona, there are still a couple of problems. First, admitting that you were a troll for nearly a decade doesn't endear me to you in any way, and second, when he increased in popularity he should have questioned why people were listening to him; was it because they were outraged by what he said, or because they agreed with it? When he realized it was mostly the latter, he should have called them out on their racist, xenophobic, secessionist positions and been like "whoa, I was just kidding, if you all are serious you've got some problems." Which he did not do.

So yeah, you may not be racist yourself, but you made a living for a decade by ingratiating yourself to racists and didn't seem to mind, so you're still an ass.
 
2013-11-26 11:32:43 AM
Jack "The Southern Avenger" Hunter really did write all those things, he really does HATE HATE HATE Lincoln, and he gets a full-on raging boner for the Confederacy that should have won.  He is also a genuine fiscal conservative and social libertarian.  He didn't like Bush or the PATRIOT act either, and idolized RON PAUL.

I love that he became, perhaps for only a brief time, an albatross around the neck of Senator Paul.
 
2013-11-26 11:53:36 AM
Wait, I thought inbred crackerass racists liked Hitler?
 
2013-11-26 11:53:39 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-11-26 11:54:03 AM
 
2013-11-26 11:54:09 AM
Too little too late and effective enough to tank Rand Paul.

See ya.....
 
2013-11-26 11:54:23 AM
I would have written a storyline where he and the lesser remaining members of Skynryd hang an effigy of Neil Young.
 
2013-11-26 11:55:48 AM
I find it silly when we Republicans are called racist. Lincoln was a Republican and he freed the slaves! Did you know that? Probably not because the liberal media never talks about that.

Also, John Wilkes Booth was a stand up guy for shooting that tyrant Lincoln.

Why are you looking at me like that?
 
2013-11-26 11:58:21 AM
So "conservative values" include being pro-slavery and concerns over whites becoming a minority>

*shuffles through papers*

Okay, yeah, that actually checks out.
 
2013-11-26 11:58:38 AM
wparson.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-11-26 11:59:40 AM
I am hoping that some day O'Reilly retires and says it was all a sham to draw in conservatards.
 
2013-11-26 12:01:19 PM

Richard C Stanford: Wait, I thought inbred crackerass racists liked Hitler?


Nah, that's loony-toons fascists in Western states. They want to set up German fascism in America because brown people are genociding the white man by being so sexy the white man doesn't want to have babies with flat-assed prissy white girls any more.

Southern idjits hate Hitler because USA! but also hate the black man because southern idjits is idjits. They want the Confederacy reestablished because of how sore they are that Yankees won the Great American Dick Measuring Contest.
 
2013-11-26 12:01:29 PM
I had forgotten about that, too. It was painful to revisit because it sounds awful to me today, so I could only imagine what it sounded like to African-Americans in 2000.

Look, it was a different time, OK? Way, way back in the year 2000, you were considered weird if you didn't get on the radio and fantasize about whipping black Americans!

I grew up in the cradle of Southern secession-Charleston, S.C.-and came of age in the 1990s, a decade defined by racial tension.

Or, you know, flannel and alternative music. I guess it just depends on what you were obsessing over.

And then it's Rush's fault! But no, some black guy did it too! What a tool.
 
2013-11-26 12:01:40 PM
FTA: If I thought he was a white supremacist, he would be fired immediately

That's some nice vetting there Rand Paul.
 
2013-11-26 12:03:09 PM
You don't have to be pro CSA or slavery to understand Lincoln wasn't the saint he's portrayed to be.
 
2013-11-26 12:03:17 PM
Well, duh. Racism IS a conservative value.
 
2013-11-26 12:07:04 PM

jayhawk88: I had forgotten about that, too. It was painful to revisit because it sounds awful to me today, so I could only imagine what it sounded like to African-Americans in 2000.

Look, it was a different time, OK? Way, way back in the year 2000, you were considered weird if you didn't get on the radio and fantasize about whipping black Americans!

I grew up in the cradle of Southern secession-Charleston, S.C.-and came of age in the 1990s, a decade defined by racial tension.

Or, you know, flannel and alternative music. I guess it just depends on what you were obsessing over.

And then it's Rush's fault! But no, some black guy did it too! What a tool.


It's probably a coincidence, but the numbers on the end of your login juxtapose really weirdly with a post chastising white supremacists.
 
2013-11-26 12:07:33 PM

MugzyBrown: You don't have to be pro CSA or slavery to understand Lincoln wasn't the saint he's portrayed to be.


Yes, but you have to be farked up to A) Cheer for his assassination, B) Cheer for his assassination while at the same time claiming "REPUBLICANS are the people who really care about blacks because Lincoln was a REPUBLICAN!"

You know who also wasn't a saint? Pretty much every human being ever.
 
2013-11-26 12:09:21 PM
Considering what a high pitched, nasal, prepubescent  voice  this guy(?) has; I'm surprised anyone let him near a radio.
 
2013-11-26 12:09:24 PM

MugzyBrown: You don't have to be pro CSA or slavery to understand Lincoln wasn't the saint he's portrayed to be.


Yes ... and? Is that what you think is going on here?
 
2013-11-26 12:13:17 PM

MugzyBrown: You don't have to be pro CSA or slavery to understand Lincoln wasn't the saint he's portrayed to be.


Which totally justifies comparing him to Hitler.
 
2013-11-26 12:13:19 PM

Bondith: It's probably a coincidence, but the numbers on the end of your login juxtapose really weirdly with a post chastising white supremacists.


Yeah someone else brought that up to me the other day...I've been using this handle for over 10 years now and had never heard/read the significance of "88" until just recently.
 
2013-11-26 12:13:30 PM
Mysteriously missing from all that was an explanation for why there's such an appetite for racist commentary on AM radio.

I'm sure it's nothing to do with conservatives being mostly bigots with the occasional moron thrown in for flavor.
 
2013-11-26 12:14:30 PM

MugzyBrown: You don't have to be pro CSA or slavery to understand Lincoln wasn't the saint he's portrayed to be.



Regardless of one's opinion on Lincoln, one still needs to recognize that his death after the end of the war was a BAD THING for the South, since it allowed the more vengeful faction of Congress to direct Reconstruction.

So JWB contibued the long line of Southern actions which make them feel good at the expense of their actual welfare.
 
2013-11-26 12:14:39 PM
Just remember kids, the Conservatrolls have almost, ALMOST identified someone on the left whose rhetoric is as bad as half of the Tea Party.

Any day now.
 
2013-11-26 12:16:42 PM

monoski: I am hoping that some day O'Reilly retires and says it was all a sham to draw in conservatards.


I dunno, I used to expect that he would do that one day, but now I realize to spew that kind of bullsh*t on a daily basis for many years, you've actually got to convince yourself that you believe what you're saying.  Otherwise, you'd devolve into an alcoholic, suicidal mess.

//unless you have no conscience whatsoever, which should not be ruled out in Bill's case.
 
2013-11-26 12:16:44 PM

coeyagi: Just remember kids, the Conservatrolls have almost, ALMOST identified someone on the left whose rhetoric is as bad as half of the Tea Party.

Any day now.


That'd be me. Feel free to quote me at Breitbart.

If I ran this shiatfark hellhole of a country, my first act would be to whip conservatives and libertarians through the streets to reeducation camps in Montana. Not even kidding.
 
2013-11-26 12:17:44 PM
To be fair, Booth wasn't actually motivated by racism so much as he was just a sad little man wanting to go out with a bang and generally pissy about his favored side losing the war.

So maybe not racist, just a dick?
 
2013-11-26 12:17:55 PM
I'd like to believe this guy, but holy hell, that was like reading a five-year-old trying to justify why he didn't steal a cookie from the cookie jar. "I didn't do it, but if I did it, I don't remember anyways, and it doesn't matter because Billy took one yesterday."
 
2013-11-26 12:19:04 PM

Marshal805: Considering what a high pitched, nasal, prepubescent  voice  this guy(?) has; I'm surprised anyone let him near a radio.


It aided in his trolling, that's for certain.  He's also quite a peculiar looking fellow, way taller than I thought but skinny as a rail with a big head atop it all.  And he used to wear the luchadore mask with the stars'n'bars on it whenever he was in public.

jayhawk88: Yeah someone else brought that up to me the other day...I've been using this handle for over 10 years now and had never heard/read the significance of "88" until just recently.


It is a stretch to say that "88" has a significance without the "14" in front of it, but yeah that's filed under "things I learned because of internet posters" for me, too.
 
2013-11-26 12:21:25 PM
Advocating for "states' rights" and a candidate who doesn't like the Civil Rights Act? Might as well put that flag-mask back on.
 
2013-11-26 12:25:30 PM

MugzyBrown: You don't have to be pro CSA or slavery to understand Lincoln wasn't the saint he's portrayed to be.


Man in my day trolling meant something.
/trolling never meant more than stupid people being proud of being stupid
 
2013-11-26 12:26:27 PM

Bondith: It's probably a coincidence, but the numbers on the end of your login juxtapose really weirdly with a post chastising white supremacists.


Bonus: The Jayhawks were a famous anti-slave faction in Kansas.
 
2013-11-26 12:27:44 PM

jayhawk88: Bondith: It's probably a coincidence, but the numbers on the end of your login juxtapose really weirdly with a post chastising white supremacists.

Yeah someone else brought that up to me the other day...I've been using this handle for over 10 years now and had never heard/read the significance of "88" until just recently.


curious if you know what "Jayhawk" references besides the KU 's sports teams....which makes the juxtaposition even more amusing
 
2013-11-26 12:30:24 PM

Jim_Callahan: To be fair, Booth wasn't actually motivated by racism so much as he was just a sad little man wanting to go out with a bang and generally pissy about his favored side losing the war.

So maybe not racist, just a dick?


what people forget about Booth was how insanely popular he was in his day,  One historian put it to me this way  "imagine if George Clooney or Brad Pitt shot President Bush"
 
2013-11-26 12:31:23 PM
It's kind of strange that a person got elected and had employed and decided hang around with people with such radical and non mainstream views.

It makes me think that this elected official is not being completely honest with the American people.

It's disturbing that theirown party won't hold them accountable those those associations.
 
2013-11-26 12:32:48 PM

Poopspasm: Mysteriously missing from all that was an explanation for why there's such an appetite for racist commentary on AM radio.

I'm sure it's nothing to do with conservatives being mostly bigots with the occasional moron thrown in for flavor.


You gotta love the irony of people judging a whole group of people as bigots or morons. It's almost like they have a word for that...
 
2013-11-26 12:35:26 PM

Crotchrocket Slim: /trolling never meant more than stupid people being proud of being stupid


I was battling trolls back in the 'big iron' days of the net...on gopher and usenet (when it first appeared).  You are very correct.  Trolls have never EVER been anything other than either ignorant or stupid, but proud of being both.  They all sound the same, too.  Some variant of "My opinion is just as valid as your verifiable fact, because I'm entitled to my opinion!"
 
2013-11-26 12:38:47 PM

EWreckedSean: Poopspasm: Mysteriously missing from all that was an explanation for why there's such an appetite for racist commentary on AM radio.

I'm sure it's nothing to do with conservatives being mostly bigots with the occasional moron thrown in for flavor.

You gotta love the irony of people judging a whole group of people as bigots or morons. It's almost like they have a word for that...


It's only invidious prejudice when it's judgment of a group for assigned or quasi-assigned characteristics. Judgments based on race, sex, and sexual orientation fall into the first category. Judgments based on religion fall into the second category.

But it's perfectly fair to pre-judge people as assholes based on their political beliefs. A Nazi is a bad person just because he's a Nazi. We don't need to know anything more about him to know he's an asshole. Likewise conservatives.
 
2013-11-26 12:40:32 PM
So as a 25 year old he had more extremists views, played a character that had a very extremist personality on a shock jock show, and those views evolved as he grew up. Who cares exactly? Oh wait, he worked for Rand Paul, bring out the pitch forks.
 
2013-11-26 12:41:01 PM

Obama's Reptiloid Master: coeyagi: Just remember kids, the Conservatrolls have almost, ALMOST identified someone on the left whose rhetoric is as bad as half of the Tea Party.

Any day now.

That'd be me. Feel free to quote me at Breitbart.

If I ran this shiatfark hellhole of a country, my first act would be to whip conservatives and libertarians through the streets to reeducation camps in Montana. Not even kidding.


I'll give you campaign money if you start calling out treason for what it is and you make the right decisions regarding some of the war criminals in this country, specifically the leadership at that time.
 
2013-11-26 12:42:33 PM
We may be the "Party of Lincoln", but that doesn't mean we have to like the guy, or agree with him, or stand with his decision to free the slaves, or mourn his assassination, or follow any of the same principles...

But Lincoln!
 
2013-11-26 12:43:09 PM

EWreckedSean: So as a 25 year old he had more extremists views, played a character that had a very extremist personality on a shock jock show, and those views evolved as he grew up. Who cares exactly? Oh wait, he worked for Rand Paul, bring out the pitch forks.


This media career of his didn't exactly disappear 13 years ago... he was penning similarly-themed items just a few years ago.
 
2013-11-26 12:43:35 PM

EWreckedSean: why there's such an appetite for racist commentary on AM radio.


Three Words:  "Range" and "Physical Barriers".  FM doesn't have the range that AM does, and doesn't penetrate bunkers nearly as well.  AM is all that will reach the nutcases, so that's what they listen to in their little hideouts.  Also, AM receivers are easier to build at home than FM receivers, which require more signal processing to do.
 
2013-11-26 12:47:06 PM

Jim_Callahan: To be fair, Booth wasn't actually motivated by racism so much as he was just a sad little man wanting to go out with a bang and generally pissy about his favored side losing the war.

So maybe not racist, just a dick?


Apart from being a strong supporter of slavery he was totes not racist.
 
2013-11-26 12:56:27 PM

Triple Oak: Obama's Reptiloid Master: coeyagi: Just remember kids, the Conservatrolls have almost, ALMOST identified someone on the left whose rhetoric is as bad as half of the Tea Party.

Any day now.

That'd be me. Feel free to quote me at Breitbart.

If I ran this shiatfark hellhole of a country, my first act would be to whip conservatives and libertarians through the streets to reeducation camps in Montana. Not even kidding.

I'll give you campaign money if you start calling out treason for what it is and you make the right decisions regarding some of the war criminals in this country, specifically the leadership at that time.


In that case, show trials for Boehner, McConnell, Ryan, Cantor, Cruz, and Graham. John McCain will be installed as Republican liaison pro tem until we can see if Jon Huntsman wants the position.

Then we work to dissolve the two party system. Advocacy of nativist, far-right, or fascist ideologies becomes punishable as seditious.
 
2013-11-26 12:57:36 PM

Magorn: jayhawk88: Bondith: It's probably a coincidence, but the numbers on the end of your login juxtapose really weirdly with a post chastising white supremacists.

Yeah someone else brought that up to me the other day...I've been using this handle for over 10 years now and had never heard/read the significance of "88" until just recently.

curious if you know what "Jayhawk" references besides the KU 's sports teams....which makes the juxtaposition even more amusing


So what's the significance of 88?  I'm a Kansas guy who doesn't know.
 
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